#PatinsIcam Archive

A weekly half hour chat focused on improving access to education for PK-12 students through the use of Accessible Educational Materials (AEM), Universal Design for Learning (UDL), and Assistive Technology (AT).

Tuesday April 24, 2018
8:30 PM EDT

  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to Twitterchat 4/24/18- Organization! #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Quick plug, Submit your presentation proposals for the PATINS Access to Education 2018 Conference! -by April 30, 2018 https://t.co/qgP6YbUalW #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Tonight we will discuss Organization-Tools and Tips to Improve Executive function Skills. Be rdy to share and ask questions! Yes, even lurkers! #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Please introduce yourself, tell us where u are from and what u do. Don't forget to use the hashtag 4 each tweet! #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Apr 24 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! Daniel's here... @PATINSPROJECT State Director, former SpEd Teacher, Para, Behavior Therapist. #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Good evening #PatinsIcam Kelli a PATINS Specialist of ASD, Aspergers, SLD, Chrome Accessibility, AEM & AT Integration...checking in & ready to chat organization & executive functions tonight.
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi Everyone! I am super excited about this chat! Rachel Herron here from the PATINS Project! #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hey @KeithFechtman You should consider this! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Apr 24 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi, Jessica, SLP and PATINS Specialist, it depends who you ask if I'm organized or not. I still don't know where 1/2 of my tupperware went, but I love digital tools to keep me organized. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    We will post questions as Q1, Q2, etc. Pls tweet your response with A1, A2, etc. Remember to add the #PatinsIcam hashtag to each tweet! #PatinsIcam
  • Lay11c Apr 24 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hello all. Corey from Vevay, IN I am a Technology Coordinator @ Ivy Tech Community College #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Do you feel like you have a handle on Organization skills? In your personal life and in your work life? #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    That was Q1! #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Glad ur back @Lay11c You moved positions! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @Lay11c, @Lay11c
  • PATINSSandi Apr 24 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Hi Everyone! Sandi Smith here. Accessible content authoring, Apple & Chrome accessibility & integration, secondary age SLD & Secondary Age Transition specialist! #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Apr 24 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Bev Sharritt here, PATINS specialist for BLV AT and AEM tweeting from Pendleton, IN #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A1: Every ounce of my organization is self taught. I use tools DAILY to function. These range from low to higher tech! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Welcome Corey!!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @Lay11c
  • BevSharritt Apr 24 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1: Yes, not perfect, but I’m satisfied with my margin of error in both realms. Always looking for new tools though! #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1: If it's on my calendar, I feel like I have a handle on organization. It has to be somewhere for me to refer to so I don't feel lost #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1: I have to have it in one place and not keep looking around! #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Q2: How does the abiltiy to organize affect Executive Function Skills? #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: To be organized, in my mind, is to know what you have, know what you need, and be prepared for things that can happen. That's hard across all domains, all the time, hence why they are skills to be built and it's not something you are, it's something you do #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: Students can feel a teacher's ability to be organized or the inability. It's imperative to have a consistent organized routine in the classroom #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Apr 24 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: I feel like I am always chasing good organization. It is turning around and taunting me on occasion! #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A!: It is staying organized without too many tools. #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Apr 24 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1: I'm most organized when I have my calendar AND my lists in the cloud accessible from ANY device at any time. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Q3: How do poor organization skills affect daily work/school/relationships? #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Apr 24 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A2: You can organize your heart out, but it needs to be easily found and quickly digested or it is just an exercise in sorting. #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A2: For Ss who do not know what is coming next, where things are, etc can FEEL and SOUND like chaos for them which can create behaviors that will throw them off the whole day #PatinsIcam It's like spinning out of control
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A2: If Organization is a deficit, you are always late, letting people down, feeling like you stick out. It is a hard way to move through a day. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Q4: What Apps might be useful to improve Executive Function skills?#PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Apr 24 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A3: Poor organization requires that resources be spent retroactively, which most certainly effects productivity. #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Apr 24 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A4: I use the built in Reminder App on my i-Thingies—ask Siri to remind me and she is faithful to do so #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A4: For Organization I love My Homework, Skitch (for visuals) and a myriad of calendars (I use Google Calendar). Can Plan takes you through a task analysis of how to do something and Popplet and Ideament really help kids organize. #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Apr 24 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A3: Poor organization skills can sink the best student/worker. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A4: iOS Apps: Settings. Reminders. iStudiez Pro Legendary Planner. Bloom HD. Fluid 2. iBooks. My Memos. Inspiration Maps. Co:Writer. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A4: I also like to use Popplet and Ideament as a tool to map out feelings and “what went wrong/right” in a day so a student can really visualize solutions, etc. A great teacher in Indiana taught me that technique! #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A3: It affects nearly all aspects of what you want to accomplish and be successful doing. Being late, not getting anything substantial done, scattered which can create friction with others #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Apr 24 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A4: EF skills do not exist in a bubble by themselves. Work on language skills, which improve work memory and attention. Provide visual supports and strategies in all instruction. Teach students the vocabulary and semantics of using a calendar #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Q5: What features do these apps have that make them useful? #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Apr 24 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A4: Talk to the digital assistant on your phone and ask for reminders. Google Keep for lists. Reminders on Google Calendar will float from day to day until they are completed. #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Apr 24 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A5: I like Doodle for setting up meetings with several folks—the feature of having everyone’s input in one visual saves a lot of wading through an email thread #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Organization skills have to be taught & we can't set this up for Ss. You have to invest time upfront in order for Ss to understand the WHY and how #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A4: I also like apps like Nag and Reminder...anything that allows someone to take control and remember things can be a plus! #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Apr 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Bev has me using Doodle now too! #PatinsIcam
    • BevSharritt Apr 24 @ 8:44 PM EDT
      A5: I like Doodle for setting up meetings with several folks—the feature of having everyone’s input in one visual saves a lot of wading through an email thread #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    What would I do without doodle!!??#PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BevSharritt
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Can this be set up for appointments as well? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BevSharritt
  • jconradslp Apr 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    I don't know how I survived without Doodle, staff meetings in a snap! #PatinsIcam
    • BevSharritt Apr 24 @ 8:44 PM EDT
      A5: I like Doodle for setting up meetings with several folks—the feature of having everyone’s input in one visual saves a lot of wading through an email thread #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    I use google keep every day and I still have so much to learn! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @PATINSSandi
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A5: Audio, verbal/voice, visual, color coded, calming, decrease keystrokes, decrease typing of repeat work. Pre-set framework. #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Apr 24 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    yes! anything that needs to be scheduled #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A4: Organizing notes is a huge benefit for students. Extensions like Super Simple Highlighter is helpful https://t.co/CaUvN62KPS #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Apr 24 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Pages 29 and 30 are a great self assessment of different types of organization from the "oldie but goodie" WATI #PatinsIcam https://t.co/mDkH2SaIXj
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Q6: What do you use to improve Organizational skills in your own life? Low tech, high tech, does not matter. #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Apr 24 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A6: 3d bar code on our freezer linked to a document that keeps inventory of our meat that we buy in bulk from a local farmer. Hooks in strategic transition areas for things going in and out of the house #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A5: I do a whole webinar on these types of apps for EF, but The ones I mentioned are for organization, planning and priority, time management, working memory...#PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Apr 24 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    a6: give myself TIME to organize. When I first started things piled up quickly, and I still catch myself wanting to devote time to people rather than paper (I'm not alone!) but the "stuff" needs attention too #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A6: I find that a good calendar that communicates with email is very useful, so I don’t have to repeat type info all the time. #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Apps & tools will not be useful, meaningful or carried thru without Ss having an understanding of the "cause & effect" of disorganization...the why. I feel that for some Ss, social stories are a good tool #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Apr 24 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A6: I still like to write out my month on a personally made organization sheet. It is a very quiet and introspective activity for me. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    And I think regular and consistent time is how it works best. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A6: I am the post it note queen! I like to crumple them up and toss them when I have completed a task. I also use google calendar every day as well as setting the alarm OBNOXIOUSLY many many times a day! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    The new updates and fillable forms are great! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Q7: Does this differ from what you tell students? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Fantastic point! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Q7: continued: so is what you tell Ss different from your own practice #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A6: My own anxiety of being late or letting someone down due to my own lack of organization pretty much keeps me moving forward. Is that low tech or high tech? ha ha #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    I love the Executive Function 101 by the National Center for Learning Disabilities...GREAT resource! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Apr 24 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A6: Also, does it need to be done that way? My students helped write their own progress reports. Before I was spending 4-7 hours writing them alone, but when I included my Ss as part of instruction, it made it meaningful. Why didn't I do that before?! #PatinsIcam
    • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:49 PM EDT
      And I think regular and consistent time is how it works best. #PatinsIcam
      In reply to @jconradslp
  • PATINSSandi Apr 24 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A7: The process that works for you is as different as each student. I offer ideas and help pick the ones that best match a students needs and abilities. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Hi Angie :) #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A7: If it's different, than we are NOT modeling it...which is an important part of teaching this skill #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Apr 24 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A7: I think that the challenge at times is to NOT force Ss to utilize what works for you, but listening and teaching them to use what works for THEM. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    That is a wonderful UDL approach! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @danielgmcnulty
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Q8: How do you handle using required programs or systems at school that may be different from the ones you like? #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Apr 24 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A8: I’ve become pretty used to the Google environment, so working to share things outside of this is hard #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    I couldn't agree with this more. We ALL have our own system and Ss are no different in that regard. We shouldn't teach them OUR way of how we organize & then force that but the actual skill itself...if that makes sense. Listening...YES. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @danielgmcnulty
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    While I see merits of Google, I still struggle and prefer other ways! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BevSharritt
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A8: I guess I usually adapt...USUALLY. Sometimes I am not sure if it does not work OR if I am resistant to change. Familiarity and taking time to use/explore is really important to me. #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Apr 24 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A9: That's a good question because while teaching/modeling organization...we also have to align that with teaching the skill of flexibility #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Apr 24 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Q9: So do you have a bank of strategies/Apps that you share with Ss? How do you personalize this? #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Apr 24 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A9: I would call it an arsenal. #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Apr 24 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A8: I try it. So long as I know what I have, what I need, and I'm prepared, it's okay. Everyone has to learn how to adapt to new paperwork/systems, etc. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Apr 24 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A9: Just like any other AT device, TRIALS are important. It is also important to give enough time to a new strategy to see if it will eventually work. #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Apr 24 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A8: The underlying issue here is one of equity vs. equality and whether UDL is or isn't the framework by which choices are made. #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Apr 24 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A8: odd fact: there's always a blip of the uptick of retirements in most industries when the systems change (like medicaid billing) We need to learn to be flexible! #PatinsIcam