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judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #ELLCHAT. Tonight we're discussing teaching the hidden curriculum of your school to ELLs.

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Jaana from MI. I teach ELs in grades K-12 #ellchat

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Q1) Please share you name, where you’re from and what you teach. #ELLCHAT

Robaceratops Aug 22 @ 9:01 PM EDT

New ELD teachers @BeavertonSD engaged in deep learning on day one PD. @ToshikoMaurizio @KenStruckmeier #ellchat https://t.co/Xk9FxAEQBt

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT

A1) Judie Haynes, co-moderator, retired K-6 ELL teacher, author from NJ. #ELLCHAT

Paridad_US Aug 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT

A1 Paridad Education Consulting - a group of EL/Bilingual education consultants that work around the US #ellchat

maggieessig Aug 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT

A1 Maggie from IL - EL/Bilingual Specialist/Consultant for @IL_Resource_Ctr & @Paridad_US #ellchat

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Q1: Shaeley from Central Iowa. K12 ESL instructional coach. Hello to all my #ELLChat friends. Hoping to see a few new faces on tonight!

melissareohr Aug 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT

A1) Hi! I'm Melissa. I am about to start my first teaching job as an ESL Teacher in Watertown, MA. #ellchat

KaizenaHQ Aug 22 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Hi #ellchat! Shirley from #TeamKaizena here to lurk and learn!

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Q2) What messages are assumed in the implicit rules of your school that may be confusing to ELLs?? #ELLCHAT

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Q2 We have uniform. That can be so confusing to students as there are diff in grade levels. #ellchat

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A2) You can't talk to teachers the way you would speak to friends on the playground. #ELLCHAT

Paridad_US Aug 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A2 That when a T says "I'm waiting" or turns off the lights it really means "Be quiet and listen to me" #ellchat

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A2: Lots of cultural things assumed in rules like making eye contact is sign of respect, appropriate amt of personal space #ELLChat

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A2 True even for secondary students. #ellchat https://t.co/UyUSA6JkTh

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A2) You can't talk to teachers the way you would speak to friends on the playground. #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A2) Those were my next two ideas. #ELLCHAT https://t.co/CcNb7Hm2DU

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A2: Lots of cultural things assumed in rules like making eye contact is sign of respect, appropriate amt of personal space #ELLChat

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@Paridad_US Yes, pragmatics like when we ask question but really are giving an implied command (eg. Is the door open=shut door) #ellchat

MsTaraDye Aug 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Yes we must clearly explain these things! #ellchat #ssdedu https://t.co/wNrotS7INy

Paridad_US Aug 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A2 That when a T says "I'm waiting" or turns off the lights it really means "Be quiet and listen to me" #ellchat

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2) ELL families have problems with school delayed openings, cancellations due to weather. Don't assume they know. #ELLCHAT

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT

@judiehaynes My previous district used Boys Town model. We explicitly taught making eye contact as step in apologizing. #ellchat

michelleshory Aug 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT

So true! #ellchat https://t.co/Lh05OCMsPO

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2) ELL families have problems with school delayed openings, cancellations due to weather. Don't assume they know. #ELLCHAT

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2) Yes!! Automated phone call in a dominant lang at school helps. #ellchat https://t.co/0Jl74KHBJJ

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A2) ELL families have problems with school delayed openings, cancellations due to weather. Don't assume they know. #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A2) Teachers often get very upset if they are scolding a students and he doesn't make eye contact. #ELLCHAT https://t.co/RyBW6euHBq

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT

@judiehaynes My previous district used Boys Town model. We explicitly taught making eye contact as step in apologizing. #ellchat

listenwiselearn Aug 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Equity for English-Language Learners via @RusulAlrubail @edutopia https://t.co/DqCsaAGZby #ellchat

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT

@Paridad_US Yes, that can be confusing if ss don't have buddy that could translate. #ellchat

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A3) What behaviors of your ELLs are acceptable in their home culture but may not be accepted at school in a school environment? #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Q3) What behaviors of your ELLs are acceptable in their home culture but may not be accepted at school in a school environment? #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A3) Invading personal space. Many students stand too close. #ELLCHAT

Paridad_US Aug 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT

@esljaana Ts who takes the time to explain these intricacies of school culture help ELs feel more safe in their environment #ellchat

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A3) Resource: School Culture: The Hidden Curriculum https://t.co/P5HjflEE6r #ELLCHAT

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Absolutely! We need to educate gen ed Ts to make sure they remember to do that #ellchat https://t.co/SDlCTNChjk

Paridad_US Aug 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT

@esljaana Ts who takes the time to explain these intricacies of school culture help ELs feel more safe in their environment #ellchat

MsTaraDye Aug 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A3 staying quiet, especially around adults. #ELLCHAT

Paridad_US Aug 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT

A3 Being quiet & not questioning is respectful in many cultures. In US, being precocious/verbal/questioning is a sign of giftedness #ellchat

michelleshory Aug 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A3 Argument is big part of HS ELA standards. I find that some ELLs are uncomfortable debating/disagreeing. #ellchat

hacasper21 Aug 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Heidi from VA here a little late. Teach k-5 ESL #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3) I taught a predominantly Asian pop and the number #1 problem was not making eye contact. Considered respectful in home culture. #ELLCHAT

hacasper21 Aug 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3 eating with hands. Cafeteria monitors need to be made aware of different eating habits #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3) Related to that - expression their own opinion is difficult for ELLs from some cultures. #ELLCHAT https://t.co/GiYNPq5P85

michelleshory Aug 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A3 Argument is big part of HS ELA standards. I find that some ELLs are uncomfortable debating/disagreeing. #ellchat

eslmonica Aug 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@judiehaynes A3sorry I'm late - work w/ Asian pop 2confrontation, arguing,persuading come from our culture & sociocultural lang use #ellchat

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3) Resource: Teaching the Hidden Currriculumt to ELLs https://t.co/P5HjflEE6r #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Q4) How do you explicitly teach the hidden curriculum of your school? #ELLCHAT

MsTaraDye Aug 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A4 the first step is knowing the hidden curriculum! Then teach it, the more engaging the better! #ELLCHAT

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A4: For older ELLs, projects where they give advice about school rules to others (what you wish you knew when you came) #ELLChat #stuvoice

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A4) Teach Ts to notice these moments and utilize small groups #ellchat

MsTaraDye Aug 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Love this idea. Maybe come up with a list of most important rules see if they all agree! #ellchat https://t.co/qIbyjINC0h

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A4: For older ELLs, projects where they give advice about school rules to others (what you wish you knew when you came) #ELLChat #stuvoice

hacasper21 Aug 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT

PD for Ts to know that ELs will have difficulty with hidden curriculum and need explicit teaching #ELLCHAT

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT

@HSeslteacher Projects are a great idea. We need mock job interviews last year--eye contact #ellchat https://t.co/mhcDO8kN7E

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A4: For older ELLs, projects where they give advice about school rules to others (what you wish you knew when you came) #ELLChat #stuvoice

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A4) Resource - English language learners and the hidden curriculum - https://t.co/H9dmW0yfJJ #ELLCHAT

eslmonica Aug 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@judiehaynes A4 role playing different scenarios at K-1 level having parent meetings to make them aware of o/own hidden curriculum #ellchat

Paridad_US Aug 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A4 Put yourself in your ELs' shoes & walk through the school day &/or lesson w/ their perspective so you can anticipate their needs #ellchat

maggieessig Aug 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT

I always like to start my PD sessions with a simulation of what it's like to be an EL in school #ellchat https://t.co/Z0XA48idfN

Paridad_US Aug 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A4 Put yourself in your ELs' shoes & walk through the school day &/or lesson w/ their perspective so you can anticipate their needs #ellchat

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A4) Teach ELLs how to give & receive compliments, thank someone, answer the telephone, to ask directions, and to make small talk. #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4) Role playing, teacher modeling, peer modeling, and video are all good tools for teaching these social skills. #ELLCHAT

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT

These can be done at any grade level!#ellchat @judiehaynes https://t.co/Ag8Thoviut

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4) Role playing, teacher modeling, peer modeling, and video are all good tools for teaching these social skills. #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A4) I used to teach my ELLs how to trick-or-treat. They needed to know what to do and what to say. #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A4) Resource: Making sense of the hidden curriculum - https://t.co/1VF4HwXC06 #ELLCHAT

eslmonica Aug 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@judiehaynes A4teach non-ELs what's important for their EL peers so they are all aware of e/others' cultures & lessen hidden curr #ellchat

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT

@judiehaynes Makes me think of survey project where ELLs asked students & school staff a question & recorded data. #ellchat

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hacasper21 Aug 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A4 Article mentions teaching appropriate voice tone and volume for situations - good to remember #ELLCHAT

MrsYanong Aug 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A4- wearing shoes all day feels hard for some ELs #ellchat

MsTaraDye Aug 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT

Yes and good reminders for us all really! #ellchat https://t.co/WFexWHIMTt

hacasper21 Aug 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A4 Article mentions teaching appropriate voice tone and volume for situations - good to remember #ELLCHAT

eslmonica Aug 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT

@Paridad_US Thanks! Can't wait to be a true KL or Korean Lang learner immeresed in their culture having hard time reading/writing #ellchat

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Q5) What would you want to tell gen ed teachers about the hidden curriculum and ELLs? #ELLCHAT

eslmonica Aug 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@judiehaynes A5 don't assume find out what ELs need and be pro-active be open to differences & advocate socially & academically #ellchat

MsTaraDye Aug 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT

A5 sometimes it can be hard identify the hidden curriculum but it is crucial! #ELLCHAT

hacasper21 Aug 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT

A5 Don't assume ELs know - even if they have good conversation skills #ELLCHAT

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A5) Awareness for all staff not only teachers #ellchat

MsTaraDye Aug 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Good conversation skills can really trip me up! #ellchat https://t.co/cw9i6LBIVi

hacasper21 Aug 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT

A5 Don't assume ELs know - even if they have good conversation skills #ELLCHAT

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A5) When I changed jobs from inner-city to suburban school, I had difficulty understanding the hidden curriculum of new school. #ELLCHAT

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A5: Read Veida's comment on #ELLChat FB about boundaries https://t.co/bnHW3O6Iie

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5) Gen ed teachers need to know something about the cultures of the Ss in their class. ESL tchr should be resource. #ELLCHAT

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5) When I get a new group of immigrants or refugees I have to learn their hidden curr needs can't trust previous exper #ellchat

MsTaraDye Aug 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Just read these great thoughts and points! #ellchat https://t.co/wfs4Jnb2Dw

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A5: Read Veida's comment on #ELLChat FB about boundaries https://t.co/bnHW3O6Iie

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5: Social cues are hard enough for adults not to mention #ELLs in a new culture. Ts must be explicit about behavior expectations #ELLChat

MrsYanong Aug 22 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A5- parents and students want to succeed in our education system- abandon judgement and embrace empathy and kindness. #ellchat

PrincipalMrsDG Aug 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT

#CaringClassroom Chat in 5 min! #ELLCHAT #K12talent #Kinderchat #ksedchat #TeacherEdChat #TLAP #USedchat https://t.co/Q4jyzbP9me

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT

@esljaana Agree that each student has own unique needs, even from same culture. Something else in background can be different. #ELLChat

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A5) Thanks for posting this. #ELLCHAT if you want to post your ideas, go to our FB page. https://t.co/7IJ7qnqSYc

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A5: Read Veida's comment on #ELLChat FB about boundaries https://t.co/bnHW3O6Iie

MsTaraDye Aug 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Yes yes yes!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼 #ellchat https://t.co/jIx5JgYLEF

MrsYanong Aug 22 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A5- parents and students want to succeed in our education system- abandon judgement and embrace empathy and kindness. #ellchat

esljaana Aug 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Great points! #ellchat https://t.co/Fw4Wi0KcDi

HSeslteacher Aug 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A5: Read Veida's comment on #ELLChat FB about boundaries https://t.co/bnHW3O6Iie

judiehaynes - Moderator Aug 22 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Good night! Join us next week to discuss advocacy for ELLs. #ELLCHAT