#sstlap Archive

Weekly chat 8CST that infuses the ideas of Teach Like a Pirate by Dave Burgess into the Social Studies classroom.

Thursday April 26, 2018
9:00 PM EDT

  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #sstlap Tonight looking at Carol Dweck's book Mindset - Talking about Fixed and Growth Mindsets #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Hi #sstlap, this is Bill Chapman, a retired secondary social studies teacher, checking in from Berkeley, CA. I've not read Dweck's book, so I may just lurk and learn tonight. We'll see.
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining the conversation Please introduce yourself #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    #sstlap Ben Brazeau tech Integrator host so the dude with the questions. How is everyone? Putting kids to bed be back momentarily
  • jeremy_kautz Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A1: Focused on learning through appreciating the process more than the results. It feels good to 'get done' though with tasks that don't promote my own learning. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hey Bill we finally hit 70s so it's like the CA of the Midwest. #sstlap
    In reply to @classroomtools
  • CHitch94 Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Sadly, will be late. Hoping to jump in for the second half of #sstlap. Chris from Bloomington, IN. Teach world history for private online HS.
    In reply to @Braz74
  • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Adam from Cincy - 7/8 grade history. I’ll be bouncing in and out. How is everyone? #sstlap
  • agoodin1 Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    #sstlap AG from AR ready to finish this year STRONG!
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    #sschat #sstlap #edchat
  • rcollins_edu Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    First time joining #sstlap, but see some familiar faces! Rachael Collins, 8th grade U.S. History. Live in Southern CA.
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Welcome to #sstlap, Rachael!
    • rcollins_edu Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      First time joining #sstlap, but see some familiar faces! Rachael Collins, 8th grade U.S. History. Live in Southern CA.
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Nikki, teaching Social to grades 11 and 12 in sunny, spring-like (finally!) Calgary; dealing with small kids and bedtime and big kid building a Rube Goldberg machine; will be in and out #sstlap
  • LauraGarlow Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Laura, kinder teacher in MN jumping in!!!! #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Rachel great to see you- thanks for joining the #sstlap crew
    In reply to @rcollins_edu
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1 I hope I focus on the learning along the way. Although hard to avoid setting and meeting goals when working - easier to do that now that I'm retired. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    good luck- just put them to bed and they are already up.. like wrangling cats #sstlap
    In reply to @N_Davidson18
  • rcollins_edu Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1) My mindset has grown to be more comfortable with the idea of growth and learning through every step of the process. In life and in teaching, I plan and I like to plan well the first time around. #sstlap
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: I'm still focused on achieving the goal, although I'm trying hard to be more mindful of the learning process; I'm definitely in the midst of shifting my own mindset #sstlap
  • LauraGarlow Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: I’ve been 1 to focus on achieving the task, but with kinder I’ve been finding that the learning along the way is much more important than if they get the task done #sstlap
  • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: I focus on the learning that occurs along the way. Whether it’s with Ss or myself, we reflect on learning consistently. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    I was writing a post today about mindset and reflecting on how often I have been fixed, but seeing more times where I am shifting to growth mindset- enjoying the journey #sstlap
    In reply to @rcollins_edu
  • historyhistory4 Apr 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: I feel that I am somewhere between the goal and the journey. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    As I am continuing to read the book, I think it would be hard to be growth mindset 100% I think there are aspects in life that ebb and flow, but identifying these areas allows for growth #sstlap
    In reply to @N_Davidson18
  • historyhistory4 Apr 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Raquel from Anaheim, Ca HS US History Chatting from an LCAP meeting. #sstlap
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    I think the key part is being mindful and aware of what and why; not just doing things because that's the way we've always done it #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    interesting- I was HS and know there was too much emphasis on outcome not process and learning- I think reflecting on the journey and obstacles are where learning really resides- we gloss over that too quickly and focus on got it don't got it #sstlap
    In reply to @LauraGarlow
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Comfort is a huge step...hard to step out of our comfort zone and take a new approach; simply being comfortable with a challenge is a good thing #sstlap
    In reply to @rcollins_edu
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    I am definitely somewhere in between depending on the task - #sstlap
    In reply to @historyhistory4
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining the crew and the conversation tonight #sstlap
    In reply to @historyhistory4
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
  • LauraGarlow Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    I agree!!! Sometimes I find my kids that can’t finish the task know more because they can explain what they’ve been trying. It may not be the right step, but they have a knowledge of why they did it #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    agreed- TTWWHADI doesn't work- thinking about the why, how and what help us move forward, not be satisfied with status quo #sstlap
    In reply to @N_Davidson18
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    yes- those who are persistent and deal with obstacles learn more. I always tell a story about a canoe trip- 1 canoe made it down without incident - my buddy and I hit every rock, got stuck on top of a rock 2x spilled the cooler - in the end we have a great story #sstlap
    In reply to @LauraGarlow
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    yeah, I know when I am confident in my abilities it is easier to present to others get out of comfort zone - easier to have missteps because I know how to adjust and overcome them- but I had to fail or see failure to learn those skills- not born all knowing #sstlap
    In reply to @N_Davidson18, @rcollins_edu
  • rcollins_edu Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2) Allowing time for student inquiry: critical thought,analysis & sharing of ideas. That may extend beyond what you initially calendared. Part 2 of the question PARENTING! Had baby last year. She brings me joy & humbled my mindset real quick! #sstlap
  • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2: this entire year has been dedicated to trying new things. I tried out a couple of blogging projects, I’m in the middle of an empowerment lesson. During and after, We reflect through the process #sstlap
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2: Right now it is the writing process for our essay; we scaffold the process for our Ss and have them revise, rewrite, feedback, in a cycle to focus on learning how to do it #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2 Lately I find myself absorbed in learning about astrophysics, cosmology and black holes. No deadlines, no goals, just immersing myself in books and conversations. Bliss! #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2 worry about achievement when I have something I have to get done- fix the dryer, bike, lawnmower. Concerned with the journey when hear about new tech tool- I play, explore, try something new when no pressure for final product #sstlap
  • LauraGarlow Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2: for me it has been with their writing. I have been focusing more on if they are at least attempting to write letters & words, not worrying about if we have spelled correctly, used spaces, etc. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Nice- all sound interesting- I am huge PBS fan- woodworking, cooking, some skills I may never try, but they show me what is possible. have been "reading" audio books about leadership, motivation lately and enjoying the learning #sstlap
    • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
      A2 Lately I find myself absorbed in learning about astrophysics, cosmology and black holes. No deadlines, no goals, just immersing myself in books and conversations. Bliss! #sstlap
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Achievement is hard to dismiss though; Ps expect it and when universities look at our marks, it's tough to not focus solely on that #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    congrats! I remember the birth of our first daughter 11 years ago and know the change in how I acted, priorities, and dealt with students changed as I witnessed her learning #sstlap
    In reply to @rcollins_edu
  • jeremy_kautz Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A3: Fixed mindset vs growth mindset? I would like to say I aspire to #GrowthMindset but there are areas where fixed takes over. Reframe it and get moving forward. Moving to a growth mindset need to have clarity on where you are at + how you are interacting in situations. #sstlap
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3: Fixed is definitely there when I deal with stuff that is finicky or need close attention; I hate it and struggle with it (ie. cake decorating); Growth is my comfort with most tech and seeing that I can learn new stuff and new approaches #sstlap
  • rcollins_edu Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    So important! I always tell my students that the first and last time, I read their writing doesn't have to be when I am grading the final draft. This has helped them also seek my guidance through the writing process. #sstlap
    In reply to @N_Davidson18
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3 I am now 70. The older I grow, the harder it is to avoid a fixed mindset. I find myself focusing on slowing the dilapidation of mind and body that comes with age, rather than growing. #sstlap
  • LauraGarlow Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3: I’d like to think I have more of a growth mindset when it comes to instruction. I love getting more ideas if strategies & things to try! Parent interactions are where I have more of a fixed mindset, because I’m not as confident with these skills #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I can easily ID elements of Fixed mindset- I sometimes want to have the acknowledgement of accomplishment, but also have found joy in just learning new things. I know not having as many daily deadlines I feel more freedom to explore #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A4 As a teacher, one can create learning activities where it is impossible to fail, where students are swept up and carried along by the activity. #sstlap
  • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A4: Ss check out and ask me about grades too much. I tell them to stop, breathe, and have them answer this question - are you learning at least 1 thing in here everyday? #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    yes- used to talk to students saying if you get a score you don't like let's talk about what you can do to demonstrate the learning- also told them I don't care about grades i care about learning- let the revise and provided feedback #sstlap
    • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      A4: Ss check out and ask me about grades too much. I tell them to stop, breathe, and have them answer this question - are you learning at least 1 thing in here everyday? #sstlap
  • kennethcdavis Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Saw Bill’s comment and jumping in here. 1st, turn off the TV. Seriously, have you tried it? 2d go back to school —or another situation in which you learn something. I’ve doe both things in the past few months. Does wonders for your mindset. Teachers must be learners too. #sstlap
    • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A3 I am now 70. The older I grow, the harder it is to avoid a fixed mindset. I find myself focusing on slowing the dilapidation of mind and body that comes with age, rather than growing. #sstlap
  • jeremy_kautz Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4: Students that don't start for fear of failure can take that first step if they don't worry about achievement, but instead focus on the learning that will happen as they move forward. Relationships, sharing stories, and celebrating learning (over achievement) #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4) I encourage Ss in my online courses to push their thinking and offer them opportunities to revise their work if it's not up to snuff. I don't post the grade until it meets the standard. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    when we as teachers say things like - you want to do well on this it is worth a lot of points, or a big part of your grade we set them up for failure. We shift it from learning to grade acquisition - #sstlap
    • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      A4: Ss check out and ask me about grades too much. I tell them to stop, breathe, and have them answer this question - are you learning at least 1 thing in here everyday? #sstlap
  • rcollins_edu Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4) Teaching students in a GATE Magnet program they (and parents) often are focused on the transcripts, the end destination (top University). Shift this by using my content to focus on skill , Ss asking ?s, & of course the intertwined life lessons. #sstlap
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4: My gr 12s are all about acheivement; they don't care about learning, for the most part; if it isn't for marks, it is challenging to get them to think and reflect #sstlap
  • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    I had Ss grade themselves this year and they were honest with their self grading. The number one question I got - “am I allowed to fix this after I graded myself?” Yes! #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    yes- love that - meet standard first- had a student who was a great student, but it came easy- I gave her some constructive feedback and was giving her lower scores with opp to revise- she would to get the A. I should not have given grade, but still challenged her #sstlap
    • CHitch94 Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
      A4) I encourage Ss in my online courses to push their thinking and offer them opportunities to revise their work if it's not up to snuff. I don't post the grade until it meets the standard. #sstlap
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    I like this; I have some assignments where I do this; I need to do it for more #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • CHitch94 Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A5) Try to offer choices where Ss can connect the content with their interests, choice in how they present what they've learned, etc. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    I love working with tech - trying new things- making/editing videos sharing how tech can impact learning when done right- I spend hours days months working on things just because #sstlap
  • jeremy_kautz Apr 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A5/A6: Video gaming comes to mind. I can't tell you how many fails come in learning to play a new game. Games like Fortnite use immediate feedback (consequences) drive students to do more and start again quicker. Students need to feel agency. How is good Q? #sstlap
  • LauraGarlow Apr 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Sorry! Kinda in & out now. Working on a letter for a Ss, & reading about language development at certain age levels! (I’ve got a growth mindset about it!) #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A5 My students loved solving puzzles of one sort or another. So I learned to create lessons that turned learning into solving mysteries and logic puzzles. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Next question in about 3 minutes- sorry got distracted as the Packers were on the clock for the Draft #sstlap
  • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A5: I’m doing a Renaissance project - Ss chose their Renaissance figure, they are creating the questions and the individual artifacts. A lot of creativity happening. Most are enjoying the process. One student is bringing in a green screen to do a commercial. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    thinking about gaming- how often I hit reset- What if kids had reset button in school--- in a lesson -- #sstlap
    • jeremy_kautz Apr 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
      A5/A6: Video gaming comes to mind. I can't tell you how many fails come in learning to play a new game. Games like Fortnite use immediate feedback (consequences) drive students to do more and start again quicker. Students need to feel agency. How is good Q? #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    love seeing students creating- learning is active- when we get off the stage and turn it over to them that is where the magic happens. #sstlap
    • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      A5: I’m doing a Renaissance project - Ss chose their Renaissance figure, they are creating the questions and the individual artifacts. A lot of creativity happening. Most are enjoying the process. One student is bringing in a green screen to do a commercial. #sstlap
  • MrsKannekens Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Sounds like they would love @breakoutEDU Have you tried breakout boxes or the digital versions @classroomtools ?#sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Oh before I forget- I am looking for a host next week- I am out of town so hoping someone has a topic and 6 or so questions let me know if interested #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A6) My Ss like sharing their ideas. That may not seem like a big deal but, in an online and asynchronous environment, they don't always get that opportunity. They learn a lot from each other even with the limited interaction (via GDocs commenting). #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    I'm now retired, so no more students on which to try out new things. But if I were still in the classroom, I'd definitely give it a go. #sstlap
    In reply to @MrsKannekens, @breakoutEDU
  • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A6: my Ss love doing all sorts of things - we all have different backgrounds and interests. It’s up to me to find out their interests and create ways for them to use their strengths/interests. I’m still trying to figure out how to incorporate Batman - I made a promise. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A6 GeniusHour - breakoutedu simulations so many opportunity for kids to explore their passions #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    If you haven't looked at #XPLAP - explore like a pirate - gamification, or #ditchbook or Play like a pirate books you are missing out- there are a ton of ideas and examples to engage students #sstlap
  • jeremy_kautz Apr 26 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A7: I have tried both growth and fixed in these situations, however by this point in the school year I am worn down. If those difficult behaviors can't be relearned, adapated by this time (with admin support) my fixed mindest says remove student. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    last question in about 1 minute #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
  • CHitch94 Apr 26 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A7) With teaching online, I don't have the same behavior issues as in a traditional classroom setting. However, there can still be some issues. I try to remind myself they are teaching/learning opps. Easier online b/c have time to think about how to react. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Early in my career when I was struggling with all the demands - I didn't take criticism or poor student behavior well. As I have grown I have tried to not pick up the rope, I try to separate the behavior from the student and deal with behavior allowing clean slate idea #sstlap
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A7 I spent my first 5 years as a teacher in a continuation high school in a very wealthy community in southern California. There, fixed mindsets on teachers parts were highways to failure. Luckily, I was young enough to be swept up in a growth mindset. #sstlap
  • EduGladiators Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Join us SATURDAY as we wrap up #EduGladiators Leadership series with Core Warrior @D4Griffin3 leading! #425chat #atplc #meded #rethinkla #sstlap #teachmindful #EduAR #k12artchat #ditchbook #MOedchat #teachNVchat
  • CHitch94 Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    I definitely think that is an advantage that newer Ts often have. They are open to new ideas, ways of doing things & seeing situations, etc. Not that more exp Ts can't or don't. #sstlap
    • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
      A7 I spent my first 5 years as a teacher in a continuation high school in a very wealthy community in southern California. There, fixed mindsets on teachers parts were highways to failure. Luckily, I was young enough to be swept up in a growth mindset. #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    I think they are great, but push teachers to make sure they connect to content- you can create amazing learning activities and not just fun. Saw an amazing HS Science one- so much content was mindblowing #sstlap
    • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
      I love breakouts. The Ss keep requesting another one.
      In reply to @Braz74
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    I agree wholeheartedly on both counts! #sstlap
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A7: I’m getting better, but every now and then I have a fixed mindset when dealing with discipline and lose my cool. But I am better with having conversations about behavior - sit down discussions, how can we make this better? #sstlap
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    I went back and forth- started in growth, but then when had a number of courses handed to me without resources the struggles and stress allowed me to move to fixed, but was pushed to grow and am on the move to growth mindset - #sstlap I am a work in progress
    In reply to @classroomtools
  • classroomtools Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    As are we all, Ben. You are truly a model. Wish I'd had the chance to teach with you. #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74
  • N_Davidson18 Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Sorry. bedtime called and I missed the last part. Interesting discussion and I look forward to reading through the rest of the responses. Thanks all! #sstlap
  • CHitch94 Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    As are we all! :) One of the great things about teaching is that we can go back in the next class period or the next day and try again . . . and again. #sstlap
    In reply to @Braz74, @classroomtools
  • Braz74 - Moderator Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    yes- I would say that I am similar -- being aware of it has helped me move to conversations- and also deal with behaviors early and often and not let them build up #sstlap
    • moler3031 Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
      A7: I’m getting better, but every now and then I have a fixed mindset when dealing with discipline and lose my cool. But I am better with having conversations about behavior - sit down discussions, how can we make this better? #sstlap