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Monday April 3, 2017
7:00 PM EDT
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Apr 3 @ 7:00 PM EDT
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erikabow
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Apr 3 @ 7:00 PM EDT
We're chatting in 1 minute with
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. I've put all of our Q's in graphic format so they're easy to find on the feed. See you in a bit.
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:01 PM EDT
Erika Bowles from Longbranch Elem. in Boone Co. I'm the princiPAL! :)
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BWStinson
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:01 PM EDT
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Glad to chat with some great
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Leaders! Principal, Freedom Elementary, Christian County,
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MBBoyle
Apr 3 @ 7:02 PM EDT
Melissa, Bullitt Co., Brooks El., Principal
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:03 PM EDT
Hi Brooke! I feel like I haven't talked to you in FOREVER!!
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In reply to @BWStinson
JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:03 PM EDT
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hello all! Jim D, Asst Supt for Learning Support, Boone County. Great topic tonight!
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:03 PM EDT
Hi Melissa! So glad you're chatting with us tonight. Where is Bullitt County?
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In reply to @MBBoyle
JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:03 PM EDT
Jennifer , principal
@EastMSMissiles
in Shelby County- hola!
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In reply to @EastMSMissiles
scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:03 PM EDT
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Shelee Clark, Principal, Lakewood Elementary in Hardin County.
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:04 PM EDT
I've gotten several notices that people can't join tonight but are doing the slow chat on Voxer. We'll get started here in a bit.
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:04 PM EDT
Good Evening
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- Donna Lovell from Berea Community Middle and High School, Berea Independent Schools
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:04 PM EDT
Hi Jim!
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In reply to @JimDetwiler1
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:04 PM EDT
Hi Jennifer and Shelee!! Gosh I missed talking with your girls!!
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@scigal2
In reply to @JenniferHCox, @EastMSMissiles, @scigal2
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:05 PM EDT
Hi Donna! Hope your year has been going well!
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In reply to @PrincipalLovell
scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:05 PM EDT
We missed you too! Glad to have you moderate tonight.
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In reply to @erikabow, @JenniferHCox, @EastMSMissiles
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:05 PM EDT
We better get started. Just 26 minutes to go.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:07 PM EDT
A1: Currently we have quite a bit of student leadership because we operate on a student leadership model. I can elaborate...
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:07 PM EDT
We have a high rate of student leadership at our school. From student initiated clubs to student lead events such as graduation.
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:07 PM EDT
A1. On a scale of 1-10, we are 7. Student Lighthouse Team meets regularly, Ss do announcements daily.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:07 PM EDT
A1: I didn't answer my own question correctly. Rate our level---I'd say upper middle. Not advanced.
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:07 PM EDT
A1. All 5th grade students have a school level job and 100% of students have a student-led conference each year.
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BWStinson
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
A1: Where DO I start? We have SO many opportunities to have our Ss lead. Greeters at buses, Morning Assembly (fully lead by Ss)
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
A1: I got tickets for AB Combs leadership day in November so I'm dying to see what a 10 looks like,
@scigal2
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In reply to @scigal2
PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
We focus on Ss being leaders in organizations - most, if not all, of our service projects are S initiated and led
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BWStinson
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
A1: On a scale of 1-10: definitely an 8.
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JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
I'd rate us developing. We have some great structures in place & are beginning to see impact of true S ldrshp (1/2)
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JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:09 PM EDT
I had 2 Ss help interview poten
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:09 PM EDT
What would you say is your greatest strength,
@JenniferHCox
?
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In reply to @JenniferHCox
JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
I'd rate us developing. We have some great structures in place & are beginning to see impact of true S ldrshp (1/2)
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AssignmentHelpN
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
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A Beginner’s Guide on How to Make Mind Maps
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
Nice!
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. I love following your school's updates. You guys do SO MUCH.
In reply to @BWStinson
PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
We began Covey’s work about 5 years ago… we soon realized that it was important for our Ss to see Ldrsp and advocacy in real time
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JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
I had 2 Ss help interview last Friday They had wonderful Qs and insight!
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
Wish I could go with you to that! Would love to see their 10 for sure.
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In reply to @erikabow
JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
Curious about what % of your students would describe themselves as leaders
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:11 PM EDT
Awesome. Now that we have an idea of where we are, here's Q2.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:11 PM EDT
@BWStinson
We are hoping for Lighthouse this fall too. We need to compare notes.
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In reply to @BWStinson
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:12 PM EDT
100%
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In reply to @JimDetwiler1
scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:12 PM EDT
A2. Want to add students to our speed interview process for teacher interviews.
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:12 PM EDT
That is a great Q… I believe that many time Ss do not see themselves as leaders in “made” situations.
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In reply to @JimDetwiler1
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:12 PM EDT
Love that our kids interview all potential candidates. Man...you can REALLY see how people react to student leaders.
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JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
I had 2 Ss help interview last Friday They had wonderful Qs and insight!
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:13 PM EDT
Amen
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
We began Covey’s work about 5 years ago… we soon realized that it was important for our Ss to see Ldrsp and advocacy in real time
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JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:13 PM EDT
I'd say our greatest strength is an admin team that works to say YES to ideas for S ldrshp
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:09 PM EDT
What would you say is your greatest strength,
@JenniferHCox
?
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In reply to @JenniferHCox
JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
I'd rate us developing. We have some great structures in place & are beginning to see impact of true S ldrshp (1/2)
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:13 PM EDT
We did this last year. Would love to see how you implement it.
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:12 PM EDT
A2. Want to add students to our speed interview process for teacher interviews.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:14 PM EDT
Q2: Next year I'd love to have a process for more authentic opportunities. Kids create jobs all the time...continued
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BWStinson
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:14 PM EDT
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A2: Goals- Student led conferences is our #1!
JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
What about in other situations? I wonder how much perception of self gets in the way when situation is not orchestrated
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In reply to @PrincipalLovell
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
...but I want a way that a kid can say, "Hey...we need leadership here" and then there's a process we follow to get it up and runni
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massignmenthelp
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
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5 Daily Habits that will Boost your GPA
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
Definitely. The adults have to buy in. 100%
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JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:13 PM EDT
I'd say our greatest strength is an admin team that works to say YES to ideas for S ldrshp
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:09 PM EDT
What would you say is your greatest strength,
@JenniferHCox
?
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In reply to @JenniferHCox
JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
I'd rate us developing. We have some great structures in place & are beginning to see impact of true S ldrshp (1/2)
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:16 PM EDT
I'm telling you...100%. One of the paradigms is Everyone Can Lead. They know they lead based on their genius.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
What about in other situations? I wonder how much perception of self gets in the way when situation is not orchestrated
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In reply to @PrincipalLovell
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:16 PM EDT
Let's test it one day. Come ask 50 of them if they are a leader. I'd be curious to see what they say.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
What about in other situations? I wonder how much perception of self gets in the way when situation is not orchestrated
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In reply to @PrincipalLovell
PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:16 PM EDT
when we added self advocacy to the leadership component it became more apparent to kids to intimate what they saw was needed
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In reply to @JimDetwiler1
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:18 PM EDT
A2: We're also trying to leaderize everything. Sometimes it's hard for adults to let go. We're getting better.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:19 PM EDT
No doubt - in your school, yes - you've worked on that culture. LBES lives it; I worry about other schools w/out that same commit
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:16 PM EDT
Let's test it one day. Come ask 50 of them if they are a leader. I'd be curious to see what they say.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
What about in other situations? I wonder how much perception of self gets in the way when situation is not orchestrated
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In reply to @PrincipalLovell
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:19 PM EDT
Keep thinking on that one. We've got another one to throw into your thought pattern as well. Here's Q3.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:20 PM EDT
What you said is so important. What we expect of them, they will achieve. If we want leadership, they'll be leaders.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:19 PM EDT
No doubt - in your school, yes - you've worked on that culture. LBES lives it; I worry about other schools w/out that same commit
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:16 PM EDT
Let's test it one day. Come ask 50 of them if they are a leader. I'd be curious to see what they say.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
What about in other situations? I wonder how much perception of self gets in the way when situation is not orchestrated
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In reply to @PrincipalLovell
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:20 PM EDT
Or anything else for that matter. Scientists, athletes, artists, innovators. The culture is created by expectations.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:19 PM EDT
No doubt - in your school, yes - you've worked on that culture. LBES lives it; I worry about other schools w/out that same commit
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:16 PM EDT
Let's test it one day. Come ask 50 of them if they are a leader. I'd be curious to see what they say.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
What about in other situations? I wonder how much perception of self gets in the way when situation is not orchestrated
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In reply to @PrincipalLovell
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:21 PM EDT
A3: We struggle with the maintenance of student jobs and monitoring work performance. Anyone have a good way to do this?
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
I believe pitfalls come in the manner when people see S leadership as a photo op rather than a true skill for the student’s future
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
We complete a survey with Ss each year for grant requirements. Only about 60% so far say they are leaders or future leaders.
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In reply to @JimDetwiler1
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
A3: Also, refinement of leadership roles. Or training specifically for student leader teams. Is there anything available?
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
Q3 it is difficult to implement student leadership culture if T's don't view themselves as leaders. I think it is an "all in" thing
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
Well articulated.
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
I believe pitfalls come in the manner when people see S leadership as a photo op rather than a true skill for the student’s future
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BWStinson
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
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A4: We struggle with maintenance of each job too. Also, what about changing up the jobs for other Ss? Who can share?
scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
A3. Biggest challenge for us has been parents as leaders. Wish we had parent buy in when we started.
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
Absolutely true! If Ts are not given opportunity, they cannot truly see how to make that opportunity for Ss
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In reply to @JimDetwiler1
JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
Forgot the #, so I'll say again BOOM
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
I believe pitfalls come in the manner when people see S leadership as a photo op rather than a true skill for the student’s future
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JenniferHCox
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
So true, Jim. Leadership for the good of all is a cultural mindset, not a single situation.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
Q3 it is difficult to implement student leadership culture if T's don't view themselves as leaders. I think it is an "all in" thing
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:24 PM EDT
A3. Sometimes we let our teacher-ness get in the way of student leadership. Staff mindset is a constant work in progress.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:24 PM EDT
Definitely!!
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BWStinson
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
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A4: We struggle with maintenance of each job too. Also, what about changing up the jobs for other Ss? Who can share?
JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:25 PM EDT
... which means as the lead learners, we have to empower teacher leaders so they can empower student leaders...can't be skipped
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
Q3 it is difficult to implement student leadership culture if T's don't view themselves as leaders. I think it is an "all in" thing
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:26 PM EDT
Ooooo love this ... Elaborate please :)
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
A3. Biggest challenge for us has been parents as leaders. Wish we had parent buy in when we started.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:26 PM EDT
Definitely. We could still use work in this area but we're getting better.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:25 PM EDT
... which means as the lead learners, we have to empower teacher leaders so they can empower student leaders...can't be skipped
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
Q3 it is difficult to implement student leadership culture if T's don't view themselves as leaders. I think it is an "all in" thing
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:26 PM EDT
Keep chatting about parent buy in, etc. I'm posting the final Q though so we can get them all in.
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:27 PM EDT
This year we had a 7Habits@Home challenge and finally started teaching our parents about LIM. Wish we had done this year one.
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In reply to @JimDetwiler1
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:27 PM EDT
A4: Hits on what we said in Q3, right????
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:28 PM EDT
A4: Sometimes it's just saying...the kids ARE going to do it. Then watching them soar. That's worked for us.
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BWStinson
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:29 PM EDT
A4: Giving Ts the autonomy to lead, fail, reflect, and lead again! It is about trial & error.
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:30 PM EDT
So many of my own regrets as a school leader started with, "I wish I had parent buy in" and end with "I should have engaged my Ps"!
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:27 PM EDT
This year we had a 7Habits@Home challenge and finally started teaching our parents about LIM. Wish we had done this year one.
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In reply to @JimDetwiler1
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:30 PM EDT
A4: And also it has to roll out slowly. It doesn't happen all at once.
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:30 PM EDT
When Ts see that Admins are allowing them to take risks, they begin to foster Ss to do the same. Model, Model, Model
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Love.
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BWStinson
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:29 PM EDT
A4: Giving Ts the autonomy to lead, fail, reflect, and lead again! It is about trial & error.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Before I lose anyone...here's a quick plug for our slow chat.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:31 PM EDT
You are on fire tonight, Donna.
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:30 PM EDT
When Ts see that Admins are allowing them to take risks, they begin to foster Ss to do the same. Model, Model, Model
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scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Happy to share. I think I have a Google Doc on that somewhere that I can send you.
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In reply to @erikabow, @MeredithLarison
JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Yes!! The safety in knowing "this is action research; I can fail and learn from it without getting my hand slapped" - amen
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BWStinson
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:29 PM EDT
A4: Giving Ts the autonomy to lead, fail, reflect, and lead again! It is about trial & error.
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:32 PM EDT
we forget is Ps are usually “bought in” to what is good for their kids -we have to show them why what we do is good for them too
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Great point. We're JUST getting rolling with the parent piece. They definitely want in...some just more than others.
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:32 PM EDT
we forget is Ps are usually “bought in” to what is good for their kids -we have to show them why what we do is good for them too
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:34 PM EDT
I think we were afraid to get them on board before we knew what we were doing. Sometimes waiting isn't all bad.
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:32 PM EDT
we forget is Ps are usually “bought in” to what is good for their kids -we have to show them why what we do is good for them too
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JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:34 PM EDT
You all rock! Thoroughly enjoyed this chat! Thanks
@erikabow
!
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In reply to @erikabow
erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Friends, our time has come to an end. Fast and furious. Hope to see you on the slow chat all week where we can TALK.
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erikabow
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Happy Spring Break to those of you on vacation!! Those of us not are JEALOUS!!
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Very true… but we also need to remember that if we want P leaders they have to be a part of the beginning to make decisions as well
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In reply to @erikabow
JimDetwiler1
Apr 3 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Yes, share the "why?"
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:32 PM EDT
we forget is Ps are usually “bought in” to what is good for their kids -we have to show them why what we do is good for them too
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PrincipalLovell
Apr 3 @ 7:36 PM EDT
Great chat tonight
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- have a great week!
scigal2
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:36 PM EDT
Thanks for a quick chat Erika! Great questions as always.
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In reply to @erikabow