#gtchat Archive
 
Global #gtchat Powered by TAGT is a weekly chat on Twitter that takes place on Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT and 5 p.m. PT in the U.S.  For one hour, parents, educators, advocates and experts in the field of gifted and talented gather to share resources, links, authentic life experiences and insights about gifted issues.
 
Tuesday October  4, 2016    8:00 PM EDT
 
 
For the next hour I’ll be joining others at  (   ) ~ please pardon the heavy stream or better yet; join us! 
 
 
 
 
 
Welcome to Global Gifted and Talented Chat Powered by the Texas Association for the Gifted & Talented    
 
 
 
 
 
Our topic today is “Gifted Role Models in Literature & Film”  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks for coming out! Let's take a minute to introduce ourselves. Share who you are & where you’re from!   https://t.co/Q0C8ONdTh6  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
What a great topic tonight! Some of my favorite books have gifted main characters.  
 
 
 
I’m Lisa Conrad ~ advocate, presenter, blogger,  Parent Editorial Board member & mother of 2 gifted young adults in Pittsburgh  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hi! Jo Freitag from Gifted Resources and Sprite's Site Victoria Australia here at 11.00 am on Wednesday for   
 
 
 
 
 
Carol Bainbridge from Indiana, mom of young gifted adult, advocate for verbally gifted kids, blogger.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi, Jo! A bit later for you this week! ;)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Greetings from Florida! I'm Alanna, a former MS gifted teacher now working in ES.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Heather Vaughn at UT Austin in Texas...I have also worked in my home state of MS and TN  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Evening all. Dylan Smith from Ottawa, Ontario.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
New to  ? We use a Q1) / A1) format for questions & answers. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Remember to add the hashtag >>>  to each tweet so others can see them! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi there, Lisa. A super topic tonight!  
 
 
 
 
 
Hello this is Melissa from Katy TX  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Sent twice I guess I am here twice. 😺😺 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Question 1 is coming up; let’s get started!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jeremy, parent from CT. (And movie fan!) Don't know that I have answers for most of these but will enjoy reading yours.  
 
 
 
Q1) What benefits derive for gifted kids from reading books/watching films with gifted characters?   https://t.co/Fw9SlJDurv  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A1) They'll know they aren't the only ones like them.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A1)  kids having the ability to see that they are not the only ones- there are characters like them, similar experiences  
 
 
 
A1) Positive gifted role models in books/movies show gifted kids they are not alone; others like them.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A1) Gifted kids can feel a strong connection to gifted book and film characters. Some gifted characters can provide role models  
 
 
 
 
 
A1. GT youth are the heroes in many fictional dystopias that prompt thinking about our own societal structures, processes, ethics.  
 
 
 
 
 
A1) I think it's important for all readers to find books with characters they can relate to.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hello.  Angel:que from Australia :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Seeing a diversity of intellect & intelligence is just as important as seeing diversity of culture & race.… https://t.co/Ve17H3Ez1o  
 
 
 
Q1) What benefits derive for gifted kids from reading books/watching films with gifted characters?   https://t.co/Fw9SlJDurv  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A1. Bibliotherapy (right book for right child at right time) has been criticized, but can offer GTs perspective on personal probs.  
 
 
 
 Very true. I've worked in Special Ed for years; its important to every population.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I find that my GT child almost absorbs the atmosphere of book/film.  So it's important to choose very carefully  
 
 
 
 
 
A1: Gifted kids feel different. Books about kids like them help validate their feelings and build confidence. Smart is okay.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  To see characters cherished for their intelligence & not being ostracized for being different 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Yes roles of strength and devotion to learning 
 
 
 
 
 
  I'd imagine this would also apply to nongifted Ss as well. Books have helped me cope in many ways growing up. 
 
 
 
A1) Gifted role models may help kids to learn how to appropriately interact socially with age-peers & adults.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Gifted children see the world differently and having characters socially accepted helps them find their place in the world  
 
 
 
 
 
 
A1) How characters are portrayed is a powerful way of influencing the views of younger readers & can positively impact their lives.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  As much as I love Big Bang Theory- Sheldon is not a good role model in the social scheme of things 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I have mixed feelings on this.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A1) This also allows  students to not wait around for someone relateable- "You'll find people like you in college, etc"  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yes, applies to all. But I believe it's fair to say popularity of bibliotherapy for GT has dipped last 20-25 yrs.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A2) Movies weren't invented yet when I was young. ;)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A2) I loved to read biographies of noted heroes like Profiles in Courage by JFK &admittedly ~ I enjoyed reading encyclopedias.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The first book and film that comes to mind is Matilda!   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A2) Read a lot of Nancy Drew.    
 
 
 
 
 
A2) I remember enjoying the original Secret Life of Walter Mitty with Danny Kaye - Imaginational Dabrowski!  
 
 
 
 
 
 I was never a fan of that book as a kid. I need to reread it to prepare for the film!  
 
 
 
 I read all of the original Hardy Boys to my dd in elementary school. My first time.  
 
 
 
 
 
A2) I think movies today present overtly intelligent characters more often than in the past.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A2) I loved to read biographies and a history book titled Great People through the Ages  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
.  referring to Charles Wallace? He's the first character I thought of when I saw the subject of this chat.  
 
 
 
 
 
Although not a book or film...Oh Calvin (not always the best example for , but rather accurate!) https://t.co/rswrXnAX1B   
 
 
 
 
 
  A2 Nancy Drew, Encyclopedia Brown, The Hardy Boys novels 
 
 
 
 
 
A2 One of my favorite books is The Agony and the Ecstasy about Michelangelo  
 
 
 
Q3) Where do you find books/films with gifted characters for your gifted students/children?   https://t.co/ga666pvNjn  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Wow! Now I need to check it out.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A1) Ss have characters to whom they can relate, & they are often superheroic.  The more realistic superheroes are gited   
 
 
 
 
 
  A2 Leah in Star Wars, Indiana Jones 
 
 
 
 
 
A3) Some books I found for my kid by accident at the library. Others were recommended by other parents of gt kids. Long ago.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A3) Websites and blogs have become rich resources for book lists for above-level readers. We’re including here.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  A2 most likely however back in the day- it was about speed & strength & never give up not intelligence 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 This sounds like a book written just for me. :)  
 
 
 
 
 
It is SO much easier today to find books with gifted characters today than when I was young - or even when my son was young.  
 
 
 
 
 
 I am quite ! It is my favorite book of all time   
 
 
 
A3) Films with gifted characters can be chosen (subjectively) via movie data bases.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  A3 use gifted individuals from the past: Einstein, Newton, Socrates, Marie Curie those stand out history changers 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A3) There are book publishers who specialize in books about and for gifted students and children.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
As a kid, Harriet the Spy was one. And loved Wrinkle in Time!  
 
 
 
 
 
 I'm sure there's already been a lot of analysis of this elsewhere... He may be , no? On the spectrum?  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
We’re already half way through our chat! Thanks for all the great sharing!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  A3 I always talk with my children about how Iron Man & Spiderman are superheroes because they are gifted and brilliant 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Definitely had to be on the spectrum! I need to look into that now...  https://t.co/BW0qqIouAP  
 
 
 
 
 
 I'm sure there's already been a lot of analysis of this elsewhere... He may be , no? On the spectrum?  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Love these, too!  https://t.co/4O9BmXEROU  
 
 
 
 
 
  A3 I always talk with my children about how Iron Man & Spiderman are superheroes because they are gifted and brilliant 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A4) "Archibald Frisby" for very young gifted kids.  
 
 
 
A4) My favorite reads ~ Artemis Fowl, Harry Potter, Magic Tree House, Surviving the Applewhites …  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I loved Wrinkle in time, DC found it (i quote) okaaaaay, sort of interesting but a bit dreary  
 
 
 
 
 
A4.  Popular book series feature heroic G/T youth in magical or dystopian societies:
Divergence
Harry Potter
Hunger Games
Maze Runner 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 This one is going on my 'to read' list!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I absolutely love The View From Saturday by E.L. Konigsburg. Gordon Korman has books as well featuring gifted characters.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A4- The Mysterious Benedict Society is an elementary favorite  
 
 
 
  What a great link! Thanks for sharing!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
As librarian at  I like Half Magic, Mysterious Benedict Society, Franny K. Stein  
 
 
 
 
 
 without knowing the terminology at the time, I was conscious of his adultness. To me he was almost otherworldly.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A2) Interestingly, Marvel Comics and Films embrace the cerebral and intellectual superhero more than DC   
 
 
 
A4) I like children’s classics such as A Wrinkle in Time, Chronicles of Narnia, Tuck Everlasting …  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A4. “The Giver” was written in early 90’s, but is an excellent resource for Ts of very able Ss.  
 
 
 
 
 
  A4 Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, Maze Runner, books about problem solving using brain not brawn 
 
 
 
 The Flash is pretty intelligent ...  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Also the Dicey Song/Homecoming series. Four siblings are gifted in different ways.   
 
 
 
 
 
 This is one of my favorite books of all time to read with Ss.  So much to discuss & very relevant  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Have you heard of Friday Barnes? Similar to Harriot the Spy.  
 
 
 
 
 
 she may have been tired of signing. I gushed in front of her and she was merely polite. Hey, she was a genius.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  every show from NCIS-Abby Criminal Minds-Reed the whole Scorpions crew/ gifted individuals 
 
 
 
 
 
A3) I wrote a blog about TOMORROWLAND & why Ts should show this to Ss - especially gifted Ss  … https://t.co/1wEKeZ5bNg  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A2) ooh, and the Word Spy series Ursula Dubosarsky, Word  Hunters by Nick Earl  
 
 
 
 
 
I am Malala is a text I wrote a program for to target socio emotive needs of gifted girls in year 7.  
 
 
 
 
 
A5.  Young, passionate innovators dealing w/exclusion & ethical dilemma:
“How to Train Your Dragon”
“Cloudy with Chance of Meatballs” 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A4) Stephanie Tolan's books, Enders game, Chocky, et al.....  
 
 
 
 
 
 
A5) Some of my faves include ~ Harry Potter series, Big Hero 6, The Imitation Game, Inside Out …  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A4. The Girl Who Never Made Mistakes is a great picture book to discuss perfectionism and   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
What does everyone think of "Little Man Tate"?  
 
 
 
 
 
A4. I'm also a huge fan of  picture books - Ada Twist, Scientist is newest. Fabulous!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A5.  Determined Aspergers boy deals w/ anxiety/people in quest re deceased dad, NYC post-911:
Incredibly Loud, Extremely Close (PG13) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Scanning the  library shelves in my mind. (Fiction) Thinking more protagonists than not are brighter than norm.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I thought it was thoughtful and accurate about being gifted. 
 
 
 
 
 
 I remember one time I thought I made a mistake, but luckily I was wrong.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I really love Little Man Tate  
 
 
 
 
 
A5) Most of the movies I know are older - "Space Camp," for one. My kid loved that one - it led us to go to the real space camp.  
 
 
 
 
 
 I made a  list in our library catalog.  
 
 
 
 
 
A6. My previous tweet mentioned “Incredibly Loud, Extremely Close.” Great movie, but content is raw, and not for every youngster.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Apollo 13, October Sky, both amazing 
 
 
 
 
 
 students need role models that show the dilemmas they may face  https://t.co/ySF8KkMxJ5  
 
 
 
 
 
  I really love Little Man Tate  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  October Sky is so incredible.  
 
 
 
Final question coming up!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 first movie I thought of. It's been a while. I recall it being a lot about the mom (who directed it, after all 😉).  
 
 
 
 
 
A5. Ferris Bueller can show what happens when gifted kids don't feel challenged at school ;)  
 
 
 
 
 
A4) I would like to know of some good young adult novels featuring gifted children or adults.   
 
 
 
 I've included quite a few resources today. Check out our blog post next week with a list of links.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A6) Miss Peregrine did not impress; reviews equated peculiar with gifted. Wrong message to send to gifted kids.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 well... what happens to the principal, anyway. Things fall into place pretty well for Ferris, don't they?  
 
 
 
 
 
  Best cartoon for kids Phinneas & Ferb 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I wish someone would animate Calvin & Hobbes! Although prob. can't equate to the comics  
 
 
 
 
 
A5. TV's Scorpion showcases gifted adults collaborating to solve problems, each with his/her own unique strengths and weaknesses.  
 
 
 
 
 
Must duck out early tonight... Thx for the wonderful, very personal sharing!  
 
 
 
 
 
Do people find there are movies with gifted youth who have magical abilities? What does this say about giftedness?  
 
 
 
 I like Scorpion, but have heard from some in gifted community who don't.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
What is so threatening about academic acceleration? 
 
"If a simple, proven and cost-effective... https://t.co/Z1RiP3mZqq  
 
 
 
 Interesting question/perspective.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 for the exact title, switch the Extremely and Incredibly. (Though the title is all I've seen.)  
 
 
 
A6) I don’t recommend books with adult themes that will be read alone. Depending on age; adult guidance still needed.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A6) I would also caution against certain banned books during banned books month!    
 
 
 
 
 
  Movies not impressed with Lemony Snicket 
 
 
 
 
 
A6) MEAN GIRLS.  JOHN TUCKER MUST DIE.  They take a mean approach toward giftedness   
 
 
 
 Yikes ... those are exactly the books I wanted to read!  
 
 
 
 
 
We’re nearing the end of  today … final thoughts/takeaways? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank you.  I have a daughter who is 2E.  I would like her to read books w characters to whom she can relate  
 
 
 
This  will be archived at  & the link will be shared via  later today 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Very disappointed with Where the Wild Things Are. Movie not book. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I'm thankful for the many books available now that gt kids will enjoy. I wish there were more for young advanced readers, though.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks to the great  staff  for their continuing support; we couldn’t do it without them!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 A6) the idealistic-white-teacher-selflessly-comes-to-the-inner-city-and-sees-the-gifted-beauty-in-at-risk-minority-kids.  
 
 
 
 
 
  A6 A movie that depicts gifted students as not normal. As having to act not smart to fit in. 
 
 
 
Thanks to the  Advisory Board:       
 
 
 
 
 
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Thank you  Lisa and  advisory board, sponsors,supporters and everyone for another great   
 
 
 
Our next chat will be on Tues Oct 11th at 8E/7C/6M/5P (US)/Wed 12th Oct at 1AM (UK)/13.00 NZDT/11.00 AEDT  
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts & comments today. That’s what chats are all about!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Thank you for an engaging chat. One last one Kim Possible great for girls & gifted students. https://t.co/OP1I2PQONe  
 
 
 
 
 
 admittedly that makes me a bit more intrigued with seeing that movie.  
 
 
 
 
 
 For some of our ss, these characters will be the 1st to speak, think, & act in a way that they do ... https://t.co/fZ1yPg0li3  
 
 
 
We’re nearing the end of  today … final thoughts/takeaways?