#IOLchat Archive
#IOLchat meets Wednesdays at 12PM ET to discuss trends and issues in online education.
Wednesday February 10, 2016
12:00 PM EST
NoodleMarkets
Feb 10 @ 12:00 PM EST
Thrilled to have
@KIDS_DISCOVER
in our new K-12 marketplace! TY for joining
@NoodleMarkets
!
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#METC16
https://t.co/S7NUm0eEN6
IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:00 PM EST
Welcome to this week's
#IOLchat
:) Who's joining in today?
https://t.co/kGGSeMZ5AD
LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:02 PM EST
@IOLblog
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Lori here, an instructional designer from Newfoundland, and online M.Ed. student. Interested in this topic on both sides
ajwalshiv
Feb 10 @ 12:03 PM EST
Hello, Andrew Walsh here. Looking forward to chat as we are looking into implementing OERs in our online courses.
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:03 PM EST
Hello from Colin Easom with Pima Medical Institute Online. Hoping to stay for the entire
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today ;)
IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:04 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
Hi Lori! Great to see you. :) Also good to have a participant on both sides - definitely benefits to this!
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:04 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
Looking forward to hearing more about what you're doing! Welcome, Andrew ;)
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:05 PM EST
@ceasom
Hi Colin! Will keep my fingers crossed. ;) Glad you could make it.
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ShiftParadigm
Feb 10 @ 12:05 PM EST
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:05 PM EST
@IOLblog
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Yes, definitely an advantage to seeing things from both perspectives! Eye-opening insights for my ID practice
IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:06 PM EST
Let's get started ... Q1 coming up (in two parts) ...
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:07 PM EST
Q1) Do you use
#OER
or open courses in your current teaching/learning? ...
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:07 PM EST
Q1 cont) If not ... are you considering it? why or why not ...
#somanyquestions
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:08 PM EST
@IOLblog
A1) Yes, for both teaching and learning. Some great resources out there!
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:09 PM EST
A1) We sometimes use open resources to supplement course content, but never AS course content, which tends to be home-grown
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:09 PM EST
@ceasom
Same here
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:09 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
Excellent! What are some of your favorite ways to use these resources? Extra study materials?
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ajwalshiv
Feb 10 @ 12:10 PM EST
A1: We are considering for 1. Lower/eliminate cost of textbooks for Ss, and 2.) Eliminate confusion/hassle of different versions.
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:10 PM EST
@ceasom
Me, too. I use an open (CC licensed) textbook in one course. But it doesn't drive the content.
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:12 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
These can definitely be benefits! I have been using the CC textbook for three years - seamless transition to new edition
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:12 PM EST
@ceasom
Supplement as in provide 'extra' materials for students, or something more integrated?
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:13 PM EST
@IOLblog
As supplement to the course content from the ID side. The online course I'm taking this sem is based entirely on OER
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ajwalshiv
Feb 10 @ 12:13 PM EST
@IOLblog
Forgive me, as we are still in beginning stages, but what does CC stand for?
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:14 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
@IOLblog
Creative Commons
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:14 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
Glad you asked! CC = Creative Commons license
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:14 PM EST
@IOLblog
We use OERs as extra materials, definitely not integrated. Additional insights, further readings, etc.
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:15 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
What are your thoughts about the all OER course so far? interesting!
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:16 PM EST
@ceasom
I think it's helpful that you identify/recommend what might be useful for students. There's sooo much out there.
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:17 PM EST
@IOLblog
With so much high quality content out there, it's making me think why reinvent the wheel in creating some course content.
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stevencyee
Feb 10 @ 12:17 PM EST
Has anyone use OERs that are aligned with common core standard?
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:17 PM EST
@IOLblog
Agreed! We have a Resources section in all of our courses and list OERs there
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:18 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
Indeed. It would be interesting to compare time/effort in developing new vs. vetting existing
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:18 PM EST
Good way to organize! RT
@ceasom
We have a Resources section in all of our courses and list OERs there
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:19 PM EST
Any ideas?
#K12
#onlinelearning
RT
@stevencyee
Has anyone use
#OERs
that are aligned with common core standard?
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:19 PM EST
@stevencyee
Hi Steve! Thanks for jumping in. :)
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:21 PM EST
Q2) How do you find the best OER for your use? What are you looking for when you search? (e.g., inspiration, multimedia, textbooks)
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Melissa_Venable
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 12:22 PM EST
Any recommendations? RT
@stevencyee
: Has anyone use
#OERs
that are aligned with common core standard?
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:23 PM EST
@IOLblog
A2) Quality is key, so the resources must be evaluated carefully before using.
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:23 PM EST
A2) Often find OERs via professional associations. We look for credibility, relevancy, and timeliness
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:24 PM EST
RT
@LoriLDuke
@IOLblog
A2) Quality is key, so the resources must be evaluated carefully before using.
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#OER
IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:24 PM EST
RT
@ceasom
A2) Often find OERs via professional associations. We look for credibility, relevancy, and timeliness
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:25 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
Absolutely - great reminder that it may not be 'right' just because it's available
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:26 PM EST
@IOLblog
@LoriLDuke
But if it's on the internet, it MUST be correct, right? ;) Yes, discernment is key!
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:26 PM EST
@ceasom
Professional associations: a great tip. Wouldn't have looked there specifically. That may address quality, too.
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:27 PM EST
@ceasom
@LoriLDuke
well, when you put it that way ... ;)
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:28 PM EST
@IOLblog
@ceasom
'Crap detection', as Howard Rheingold so eloquently puts it ;)
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:28 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
@IOLblog
@ceasom
Crap Detection 101
https://t.co/0MRQc15d5z
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:29 PM EST
For once, I'm here at
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but
@jshamsy
isn't! Ugh! ;)
IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:29 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
Are there any specific characteristics your group has been looking for so far?
#OER
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:30 PM EST
@ceasom
Do you think maybe
@jshamsy
got stuck in that long coffee and donut line??
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:30 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
@IOLblog
A key element of information literacy
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ajwalshiv
Feb 10 @ 12:31 PM EST
@IOLblog
Same as everyone has been mentioning: quality, credibility, usefulness, acceptance. We are really in the beginning stages!
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:31 PM EST
RT
@jmm140
Am currently redesigning my course to use
#coreecon
curriculum. Open access, web native, mobile compatible.
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:32 PM EST
@jmm140
Thanks for the info!
#coreecon
is a new hashtag for me.
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:33 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
I like the word "usefulness" in this context. Covers so much important ground.
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:34 PM EST
Q3) What are the biggest challenges to using OER?
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:35 PM EST
A3) I think there's a danger to rely on OERs too much and assume they fill all course requirements
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:35 PM EST
A3) And as we've mentioned, not all OERs are reliable or credible. Oftentimes, they're not maintained and kept up to date
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:37 PM EST
@ceasom
There are no standards for this that I'm aware of - but might be interesting to compare some of the repositories
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:37 PM EST
@IOLblog
A3) We've talked of quality, but I think currency as well. Make sure resources are up-to-date and still available next sem
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:37 PM EST
@ceasom
Right, even when you find entire courses w/and open license, they likely need some tweaking for your course, prog, students
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stevencyee
Feb 10 @ 12:38 PM EST
How about companies like OpenEd? Is their library better?
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:38 PM EST
@IOLblog
Students soon realize you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and feel the course has a lack of quality
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:39 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
Another good point here - is it something you can download and save for the future or must it be linked to?
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:39 PM EST
@ceasom
@IOLblog
Excellent point
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:40 PM EST
@stevencyee
I'm not familiar with OpenEd, but it looks like a great place to start - easy to search, some curating in there
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:41 PM EST
@stevencyee
Haven't used OpenEd, but I see it's K-12. May still find some relevant resources for higher ed there
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:41 PM EST
@ceasom
@LoriLDuke
And they do see it. Just like we do. That extra effort to make sure everything is compatible and useful needed.
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stevencyee
Feb 10 @ 12:41 PM EST
@IOLblog
I notice there are many companies starting to provide similar service. I am not sure how good they are.
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:42 PM EST
Anyone use MERLOT?
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:42 PM EST
@stevencyee
you might also want to browse
@MERLOTorg
https://t.co/qOeOkPmdiv
#OER
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:42 PM EST
@ceasom
You beat me to it!
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:43 PM EST
@IOLblog
LOL
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:43 PM EST
@jmm140
@IOLblog
Yes, the issue of 'disappearing content' and broken links!
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:43 PM EST
@stevencyee
Agreed - this does seem to be an area of growth. Reviews and recommendations helpful when available
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:44 PM EST
We had issues with broken links - one of the reasons we no longer integrate OERs simply list under resources as supplementation
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:46 PM EST
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Anyone else experiencing this kind of challenge? "Semi open" is an interesting category to be sure.
https://t.co/Ss3ZyPetms
jmm140
Feb 10 @ 12:45 PM EST
@IOLblog
Have had lots of issues with "semi-open" resources, ebooks library subscribes to. Subscriptions canceled, faculty not informed.
LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:47 PM EST
@IOLblog
Not personally, but I see how that would make for a huge headache
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:49 PM EST
Q4) Have you created (or would you) any open resources for others to use?
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ceasom
Feb 10 @ 12:50 PM EST
A4) Have created and shared resources within our own organization, but not externally so far. Would consider though!
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stevencyee
Feb 10 @ 12:50 PM EST
@LoriLDuke
@IOLblog
it maybe better to copy the contents to your own system to avoid this problem.
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stevencyee
Feb 10 @ 12:52 PM EST
@IOLblog
We help teach coding to kids, so we have created open resources for teachers to use
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:52 PM EST
@ceasom
@LoriLDuke
Outstanding! I'd look forward to what you might have to share. Add to the high-quality materials available. :)
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:53 PM EST
RT
@stevencyee
We help teach coding to kids, so we have created open resources for teachers to use
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:53 PM EST
Oops, forgot hashtag
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@IOLblog
A4) I haven't up to this point, but going forward, I certainly would.
LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:54 PM EST
@stevencyee
@IOLblog
Fantastic!
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:54 PM EST
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This is a great idea! Anyone aware of a library of open textbooks?
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https://t.co/bN7reB762C
jmm140
Feb 10 @ 12:51 PM EST
@IOLblog
I chose these books to save students the cost of a textbook. A library registry of ebooks used in courses would help
IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:54 PM EST
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This is a great idea! Anyone aware of a library of open textbooks?
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https://t.co/bN7reB762C
jmm140
Feb 10 @ 12:51 PM EST
@IOLblog
I chose these books to save students the cost of a textbook. A library registry of ebooks used in courses would help
ajwalshiv
Feb 10 @ 12:54 PM EST
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@LoriLDuke
and everyone else in the
#iolchat
today - Thanks for all the great insight & ideas as we move forward with this project
LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:55 PM EST
@IOLblog
https://t.co/tTESpHdmHR
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:55 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
Best of luck as you move forward! Keep us posted. :)
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LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:55 PM EST
@ajwalshiv
@IOLblog
Best of luck, Andrew!
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:56 PM EST
@jmm140
Be sure to check this one out.
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Thanks
@LoriLDuke
!
https://t.co/KbKLCPRYDv
LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:55 PM EST
@IOLblog
https://t.co/tTESpHdmHR
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stevencyee
Feb 10 @ 12:57 PM EST
@IOLblog
@ceasom
@LoriLDuke
We partner with
https://t.co/ugRy2ZAxIT
, that is a great place to start
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IOLblog
Feb 10 @ 12:57 PM EST
FYI
#IOLchat
... Watch for
@OpenEducationWk
March 7-16
https://t.co/osq7QN4pfi
#openeducationwk
Many ways to partcipate!
LoriLDuke
Feb 10 @ 12:58 PM EST
@stevencyee
@IOLblog
@ceasom
I've explored this site, some great resources there!
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