#formativechat Archive
Discuss the implementation, impact of Formative and formative assessment.
Monday July 11, 2016
7:00 PM EDT
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Welcome to everyone! Me and are hosting tonight! Let's start by introducing ourselves!
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Hi, Ryan Olynyk from Calgary Canada. I hope everyone is having a great summer.
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Robert from Los Angeles here. Middle school English.
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Welcome Ryan! What's your role in education?
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Richard White from Dallas, GA
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Hi everyone. Ryan Olynyk here from Calgary, Canada. I hope you are enjoying your summer.
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I am Becky from Virginia Beach, Va, elementary teacher
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Hi, I'm Rachelle, a Span & Fr T in Pittsburgh,happy to join in chat tonight, great summer so far!
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Hey robert! Glad to have you with us again! We are in LA too!
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I am a teacher of Career and Technology.
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Welcome Becky! nice to have you with us :)
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Sean Kendall from Port Orange Elementary in Florida! Putting tile in, please excuse my late responses!
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Welcome Ryan, it has been a great summer! ! And seeing Formative team!
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I teach science to elementary students
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Thanks for joining Becky!
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David Kwan, Formative community manager and former special educator :)
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Hello, from Elmhurst, IL: A1:use sticky notes, photos, CCS checklist. Keep in binder All quick, comparable evidence.
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Very cool! Yeah, if you ever want to visit the office, we are in Inglewood!
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Welcome Judith! Where are you from?
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Q1 is now up! Q2 will be posted in 6 minutes!
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A1: I often use "exit tickets" Ss tell me something they learned or respond to a quick q from me
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Take a break, you deserve it, that's hard work!
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is new to Twitter chatting but is an amazing teacher, mother and is working hard towards her Masters! Go Judy!
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awesome, after you gather data, how do initially evaluate progress on standards/skills?
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A1- depending on the standard or skill, I like to use a learning log the students have created.
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A1 I rely a lot on inclusive class discussions to gather formative assessment. Ss expanding on each other's ideas informs me.
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A1: for me, a good first step was sorting responses into "got it" "kinda got it" "don't got it"
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A1 I have my own notes tools to store & refer to data, look for trends, then ask myself abt my practice
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Do you have conferences with students or do they also create a log at all?
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I agree, find that is a great way to also build collab & relatshps, very helpful, new ideas emerge
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Sounds interesting? Ss fill it out? how do you keep on same page?
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A1 I like things in the moment, moving forward, going deeper, making connections, & reflecting back. Never one-and-done.
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A1 Cont't - It works well in collaboration with others - especially if there was any group work involved.
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Good lesson, always room to grow, changes to make, work on new ideas
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A1contd: initial f assessment is pretty subjective for me
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What are different ways you group them? based on level of attainment? types of strategies?
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A1: using Google Forms for on the fly understanding. W/ flubaroo plugin for data gathering and sorting
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I like exit tickets as well, but also use old school quick check quizzes and plan to use tech this year to make it faster
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It is all the students. I consult with them usually after the post but it is there learning. @goformative@RewardingEdu
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A1 Learning is more of a process, not just a result. If it's important enough to teach, it's worth returning to often &deeply
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I have used Google forms as well, quick to put together and good data to review,
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A1: then I group students missing similar questions together as a reboot
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A2 Initially who's got it, kinda, and needs work.
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I have used paper too, but more for , I want to know Ss prog & they always do too
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A2: here begins the mess! I use google spreadsheet to plan groupings-try to combine skills/stands
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A2-I teach CTS - all modular based. Each outcome is separate of each other. Compared only to there own work.
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A2cntd: groupings become more conference like to gain deeper understanding with Ss
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Q3 will be tweeted in 5 minutes!
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A2 Yeah, this is the vital interconnection and relevance part of instruction. These connections create meaning & endure.
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A2 I use the data to constantly regroup students and in putting a summarize together, especially when I am looking at mastery
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I moving from primary to third so formatives will be important to drive my instruction
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Finding similarities between standards to define groups and grouping! awesome! https://t.co/hBn8PYghDF
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A2: here begins the mess! I use google spreadsheet to plan groupings-try to combine skills/stands
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A2-con't - I am looking for consistent learning compared to themselves, not other students. Google Drive folders work well.
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A2 I use data to look for new ways to help Ss, grp them in ways that help them & let others become T too,
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A2: Comparing work across connected standards allowed me to find gaps in the path from one to the next
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Yes,few yrs ago I startd w/ and ths yr
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agree Ryan. Great tool, the date and time stamp for student and teacher accountability is fantastic :)
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Had Ss create with this yr & use in classes, they really enjoyed the exper
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Ss' love it when I mix up their groups and the data is my basis for differentiating, gets attention to right Ss'
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Purposeful grouping is big in LAUSD. Using intention, strategy, & support for the best groups. Scholarship, not socializing.
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nice! allowing Ss to see own progression is great! start to shift culture away from # comparison
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I do like to have Ss in grps & move around, facilitate some, but listen,learn & apply to next lesson
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A2 and hit multiple curricular birds with one stone with rti. Save time
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If you have not found it yet is great, data is spot on
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It can be a lot of info, fortunately great tools enable easy data analysis & more
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Q3 is now up! Not too late to jump in!
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A2: tiered out similarly to CCSS placement. For example, advanced, meets or near, not to standard.
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A3: data to pinpoint areas for improvement, other resources to do the "teaching"
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A3 again obviously grouping
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Last question, time to still join in
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Just having the data and being able to pinpoint what Ss' are struggling with gives me clues to how and what to reteach
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A3-our school uses a spectrum, not meeting is lowest and must be re-assessed.
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A3: We as a grade team compared progress on specific standards/skills to build off of approaches
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A3 Less about reteaching & more about reinforcing, revisiting, & Ss reflecting. More learning thru connections & cohesion.
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A3p2: data is useless if it is not utilized, a big pet peeve of mine
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A3 focus or pinpoint skill deficit for quick purposeful reteach before intervention becomes necessary
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It's good that you guys have systems in place. Is Ss mastery compared across teachers? resources shared?
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A3-con't - Individual work is recorded and reflections tell teachers what students know and need work on.
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A3 Look for trends, find Ss to pair, grps, or let Ss come up w/activ to use in class & T facilitate
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And depending on what I use, sometimes use same assmt later and compare or ask Ss to reflect on grwth
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A3 So important to be certain to interrelate skill/appropriate strategy for each Ss to solidify their learning.
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I agree Robert, also great when Ss' take the wheel and help guide themselves through struggles https://t.co/FcgVI2r5Y9
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A3 Less about reteaching & more about reinforcing, revisiting, & Ss reflecting. More learning thru connections & cohesion.
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Love the idea of allowing Ss to re-teach skills! They may have a way of making it clearer for others!
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This is what I am talking about in re-assessment
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it also shows individual progress to celebrate growth
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Q3 for reteaching, our school has tutorial time T&Th for students in need. How 1 presents resources varies for each student
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Like this statement! https://t.co/REEsRqQNX1
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A3 Less about reteaching & more about reinforcing, revisiting, & Ss reflecting. More learning thru connections & cohesion.
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important distinction guys! revisiting at relevant times is essential
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A3 Revisiting core concepts in new, exciting, & deeper ways validates Ss, where reteaching can insult them & turn them off.
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I have often stepped back to allow Ss to step in if they weren't already, they are amazing
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Subject data teams meet weekly and discuss how students did on our common formatives, great to compare data and get ideas
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Sometimes Ss need a break from a skill, other concepts might help them attain it later
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Great idea. Students seem to connect with each other in understanding.
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Reflection is so impt for Ss & Ts, and we each benefit frm fdbk, I try to make this common in CR
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exactly, and I like to use similar questions on summarizes
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totally! I'd say my colleagues were my #1 resource for finding different ways to re-intro content/facilitate
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I like this! Time set aside for specific purpose is critical, routine & then becomes natural
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& some Ss feel unchallenged, disinterested and tune out, learning lost, need ways to keep engagd
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Awesome!To build off this strategy, I've seen a rotation of teachers for diff. groups of Ss to switch up approach
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Well that was a fast Lots of great ideas shared and happy to see others piggyback on them!
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When a skill becomes useful, vital, & meaningful it is no longer a drudgery. All about empowerment! https://t.co/lQqcDT8Bl3
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Sometimes Ss need a break from a skill, other concepts might help them attain it later
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We have traded rooms and taught each other's classes to get that other perspective
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With this, info on Ss must be shared and obviously rapport built!
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We shift Ss around. Reality? My strategies just might not work w/ certain Ss. A fresh approach is necessary.
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It sure did go fast, lots of great ideas
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don't let small group time get chipped away by stuff that happens in the day
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Intellectual vigor is just as important as academic rigor! https://t.co/sIh5NcAIuK
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& some Ss feel unchallenged, disinterested and tune out, learning lost, need ways to keep engagd
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Divide Ss with Ts that are strong at teaching specific skill! Humble pie! It's for the kiddos!
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Super important! Ss truly love the ability to reassess themselves using
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Thanks for the chat! Don't forget to build your !
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I love to go teach a writing lesson next door. Kids love it too.
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Highlighting Ts strengths is important, just like highlight Ss strengths! We learn from each other! https://t.co/Mz37rTnomn
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Divide Ss with Ts that are strong at teaching specific skill! Humble pie! It's for the kiddos!
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Time has flown by but I got some great insight, thank you all!
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TY so much for joining us everyone :) Special thanks to ! Great moderator and leader in Ss digital leadership!
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You are welcome Richard! We'll be back next week, perhaps for part 2!
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Thank you David for the opportunity to join!
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Agreed!! Don't let ego get in the way OF drudgery! Be open and value the gift of others for the kids! https://t.co/AXLjCwuxgD
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don't let small group time get chipped away by stuff that happens in the day
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Agreed, and I enjoy when they see their growth, have aha moment & feel good abt it!
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Thanking you for letting me jump right into the chat! Such great minds connected to ! Thank you!
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Just finished co-mod multitasking :)
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What's the all about in a nutshell?
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sounds like something I should attend! Weekly ?
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Yes, Mondays at 4 Pac or & EST, always great topic & discussions, join in!
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