#UTedChat Archive

#UTedChat happens every Wed. @ 9pm MDT. We discuss educational topics relevant to Utah and the general education landscape.

Wednesday April 4, 2018
11:00 PM EDT

  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #UTedChat! Take a minute to introduce yourself and to say hello.
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:01 PM EDT
    Hello! Matt from Ogden, 9th grade ELA and Creative Writing Teacher. Happy to discuss data privacy. #UTedChat
  • Darling_Math Apr 4 @ 11:01 PM EDT
    Hello everyone! Becky from Tooele. Jr. High Math is my thing. #UTedchat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:02 PM EDT
    Tonight we are talking about Student Data Privacy and Security. #UTedChat
  • downrightdave - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:02 PM EDT
    Hey #utedchat! How’s everyone doing?
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:03 PM EDT
    We will use a Q1, Q2… format for Questions during #UTedChat. Please use the A1, A2…format for answers.
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:03 PM EDT
    Greg from usbe. It’s been awhile but I’m happy to be back. Former 4th grade teacher from Logan. #utedchat
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:03 PM EDT
    Greetings #utedchat! Marci from Sandy. Huge advocate for #BlendedLearning and Utah Project Manager for @LexiaLearning. Looking forward to tonight’s conversation on #DataPrivacy!
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:03 PM EDT
    Hello #UTedChat peeps! Derek from @sedck12 checking in and feeling a little sleepy after spending 2 awesome days with students and teachers at #LTVLions Elem in @washk12 working on @BreakoutEDU! Excited to talk #DataPrivacy tonight!
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:03 PM EDT
    Who’s on spring break this week? #utedchat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:04 PM EDT
    Question 1 coming up in 1 minute… #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:04 PM EDT
    What? You're on vacation? You're not allowed a vacation! #UTedChat
    In reply to @downrightdave
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:04 PM EDT
    What a great way to spend 2 days!! #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU
  • downrightdave - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:04 PM EDT
    Well so far I have spent it all in bed, but today I finally felt close to normal. #UTedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:05 PM EDT
    Q1: How many different apps or websites do you and your students use each year? What value does it add to your teaching and/or their learning? #UTedChat
  • UTedChat - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:06 PM EDT
    Come join the #UTedChat crew as we discuss #DataPrivacy with @tusz11 from @UTPublicEd.
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:06 PM EDT
    Bummer to be sick during Spring Break! Glad you are on the mend! #utedchat
    In reply to @downrightdave, @lars3eb
  • bwe545 Apr 4 @ 11:06 PM EDT
    Hello. Brandon. 6th grade teacher @DryCreekOwls #utedchat
  • Dale_Chu Apr 4 @ 11:07 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @tusz11 leading a chat on data privacy. Follow along at #UTedChat! @UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:07 PM EDT
    A1 I used to download any app I heard about when I first got iPads. The. I got smart and only downloaded apps that were actually helpful. I would say I used upwards of 50 websites and apps for a year #utedchat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:07 PM EDT
    Yeah, I thought so! I love introducing teachers and students to the awesome of @BreakoutEDU and how it can push student learning! #UTedChat
    In reply to @marcihouseman, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU, @breakoutEDU
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:07 PM EDT
    I have a dozen or so approved sites that my students use each year (Google, Youtube, Research databases, etc.) and I only use them if they meet the learning outcome. If the website or app is just there to be in the classroom, then I usually avoid it. #UTedChat
  • Darling_Math Apr 4 @ 11:08 PM EDT
    A1: Our break was last week :( In my math class, my students use 5 websites (not including games). The majority of the websites I use are for reinforcing learning and filling in gaps. #UTedchat
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:08 PM EDT
    I know the feeling. My body just seems to crash once my brain gets on a break. #UTedchat
    In reply to @downrightdave, @lars3eb
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:08 PM EDT
    A1 some of the value it added was the ability for students to collaborate. It also provided me more time since things were automatically graded. #utedchat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:09 PM EDT
    Being sick is terrible, especially when you're sick over a break. Fell better soon! And don't go dying on us! #UTedChat
    In reply to @downrightdave
  • downrightdave - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:10 PM EDT
    Luckily it had just been a constant annoyance and only disrupted a large portion of sleep. #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:10 PM EDT
    A1 I'm not in a classroom right now, but I use WAY TOO MANY to actually count! Not all are huge value added, but they're fun. Does that count? #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:10 PM EDT
    A1 Does anyone use @ClassDojo or @classcraftgame that maybe their students don’t use but you use? #utedchat
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:10 PM EDT
    I was just reading up on @breakoutEDU and it looks like an incredible tool for collaboration, critical thinking and problem solving! Would love to learn more about it. 😊 #UTedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU, @breakoutEDU
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:11 PM EDT
    A1 But seriously though, I often used between 10-30 different apps/sites with my students each year. Most seemed beneficial, but now I'm second guessing myself. #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:12 PM EDT
    Maybe we'll have to chat a little about @BreakoutEDU the next time we're in the same place. Sound good? #UTedChat
    In reply to @marcihouseman, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU, @breakoutEDU
  • MathDavidUtah Apr 4 @ 11:12 PM EDT
    #UTedchat A1: Since I don't have a classroom I'll just say I've finally learned that I don't need every newest and coolest app that comes out. I try to limit what I download and regularly clean out apps I don't use.
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:12 PM EDT
    I did one at the beginning of last month and it was a great tool for collaboration and most of the students were so engaged. A lot of the pre-made lesson plans are great, but are behind a pay wall. #utedchat
    In reply to @marcihouseman, @lars3eb, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:13 PM EDT
    Yeah, I did justify having the games and such as rewards, so you're probably right. Gotta have a little fun every now and then. #UTedChat
    In reply to @tusz11
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:13 PM EDT
    I think we all go through that stage where we just use stuff because it looks cool or fun and then we realize it may not have been as useful as we thought. #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • Darling_Math Apr 4 @ 11:13 PM EDT
    I used @classDojo when I taught elementary school. It was a great tool. I don't use it now that I teach jr. high though. I've looked into classcraft, but haven't taken the plunge yet. I'm hoping next year. #UTedchat
    In reply to @tusz11, @ClassDojo, @classcraftgame, @ClassDojo
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:13 PM EDT
    “If they meet the learning outcome”—so important!! 👍🏼 Start with the standards—determine what students need to know and be able to do—align instruction and tools with outcome desired. Will this tool/practice help students demonstrate the learning that is needed? #utedchat
    • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:07 PM EDT
      I have a dozen or so approved sites that my students use each year (Google, Youtube, Research databases, etc.) and I only use them if they meet the learning outcome. If the website or app is just there to be in the classroom, then I usually avoid it. #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:13 PM EDT
    Hi #utedchat peeps. Deborah checking in for the Data Privacy convo tonight.
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:14 PM EDT
    Question 2 coming up in 1 minute… #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:14 PM EDT
    Spring Break/ What is that? Had a long weekend...back to the classroom today. #utedchat
    In reply to @tusz11
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:14 PM EDT
    Sounds great! #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:14 PM EDT
    Yeah, the paywall can be tough, but my office paid for the subscription and there are a BUNCH of really great games in there. I would totally recommend anyone pay the subscription for at least a year to check them all out. Worth it! #UTedChat
    In reply to @TeacherWinters, @marcihouseman, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:15 PM EDT
    Q2: What are some of the consequences, good or bad, you must make in order to use more technology products and software in the classroom? #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:15 PM EDT
    A1: I don't know how many websites I use...a handful. I'm working to digitize more of my class so it's not just using CANVAS to store paper worksheets. Looking at upgrading how I teach (SAMR model). But if it doesn't fit my curriculum, I'm not interested. #UTedChat
    • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:05 PM EDT
      Q1: How many different apps or websites do you and your students use each year? What value does it add to your teaching and/or their learning? #UTedChat
  • Vote4Kami Apr 4 @ 11:15 PM EDT
    #utedchat Nice to meet you all! I'm a former teacher and administrator, current director in Granite School District. Just trying to learn from all of you a little more about data privacy.
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:16 PM EDT
    And I think that's part of the point of tonight's topic because #DataPrivacy isn't just some nerdy topic, but a HUGELY important one for educators and not just the IT Depts. Second guessing ourselves is another form of reflection. It's healthy to do sometimes. #UTedChat
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:16 PM EDT
    100%! I was able to use a friend in the district's account, but I am buying my own account over the summer to use every month next year. Also going to start building games for Animal Farm, Of Mice and Men, etc. #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb, @marcihouseman, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:16 PM EDT
    And my biggest issue is then going in and deciding it isn't worth being on my device and deleting it. I'm a bit of a digital packrat so I keep WAY TOO MUCH stuff. #UTedChat
    In reply to @tusz11
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:17 PM EDT
    I like your approach David! Narrow the focus to those practices/tools that have the greatest impact on learning. Let’s get really good at fewer things and make sure our energy yields the impact we are seeking! #UTedchat
    In reply to @MathDavidUtah
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:17 PM EDT
    All of those are the standards by which we should measure our Edtech products. Otherwise we get too obsessed with the shiny coating. #utedchat
    In reply to @marcihouseman
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:17 PM EDT
    A2 one of the consequences I dealt with was not looking at each child as an individual and really getting to know them. Grading something by hand have me insights into each student. It was hard for me@to help them if everything was graded automatically #utedchat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:18 PM EDT
    And when you build those awesome games (because you do awesome work!) then be sure to submit it to them so other educators can also use them for their students. #UTedChat #SharingIsCaring
    In reply to @TeacherWinters, @marcihouseman, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:18 PM EDT
    Hi Kari! #utedchat
    In reply to @Vote4Kami
  • Vote4Kami Apr 4 @ 11:18 PM EDT
    A1: While I'm not currently a teacher. I frequent several classrooms and have seen quite a few apps being used. Some I've been very impressed with, however, I've seen some classrooms where that's all the teacher is doing is putting students on a computer. #utedchat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:18 PM EDT
    Wow, once again I'm behind in #UTedChat. I kind of think the problem is me because this keeps on happening. Oh well, when there's good content you go with it! #UTedChat
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:18 PM EDT
    A2 - The standard answers are already there - Time and money loss. However, the more insidious loss happens when teachers become too reliant on #edtech and forget to write engaging lessons first. There needs to be a balance between tech and engaging lessons. #UTedChat
  • MathDavidUtah Apr 4 @ 11:19 PM EDT
    #UTedchat A2 I have the firm conviction we should only use tech that makes learning better, easier, or of higher cognitive rigor. The consequences of using tech for tech's sake are many and destructive.
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:19 PM EDT
    A2: Cost is oftentimes prohibitive. Free trials don't always give me what I need to determine how useful something is. Or isn't. Tech use shouldn't be the goal for it's own sake. Everything we do should be to improve student learning. If tech supports that, great. #UTEdchat
    • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:15 PM EDT
      Q2: What are some of the consequences, good or bad, you must make in order to use more technology products and software in the classroom? #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:19 PM EDT
    I'm considering buying my very own @BreakoutEDU kit so I have one for myself even though my office already has 2. I just LOVE using the games. And even at home with my fam and friends! #UTedChat
    In reply to @TeacherWinters, @marcihouseman, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU, @breakoutEDU
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:20 PM EDT
    Exactly. Share alike so that good lessons become trends. #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb, @marcihouseman, @sedck12, @washk12, @breakoutEDU
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:20 PM EDT
    Typed too quick...I mean Kami! ☺️ #utedchat
    In reply to @Vote4Kami
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:20 PM EDT
    The Utah legislator is realizing how important the role of the teacher is in #dataprivacy which is why they now mandate everyone at the school with access to student data be trained about privacy and security. #utedchat
    • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:16 PM EDT
      And I think that's part of the point of tonight's topic because #DataPrivacy isn't just some nerdy topic, but a HUGELY important one for educators and not just the IT Depts. Second guessing ourselves is another form of reflection. It's healthy to do sometimes. #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:21 PM EDT
    A2 Whenever you want to use tech in the classroom you have to first HAVE the tech. Getting it funded can be tough. So that's a difficult aspect before you even get to the software, gotta have the hardware. #UTedChat
  • ucet Apr 4 @ 11:22 PM EDT
    Special offer for @UCET members: save $35 on your @ISTE membership thru April 23. https://t.co/HcVLBJ6U4o and use coupon UCET18. Joining ISTE is a great way to continue the learning from #UCET18! #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:22 PM EDT
    A2b: The other major problem is when Technology #fails. When I see something exciting and try to incorporate it into my instruction or share it with others and then have it blow up in my face, I'm hesitant to try again. CANVAS Discussions - cough. It's frustrating. #UTEdchat
    • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:15 PM EDT
      Q2: What are some of the consequences, good or bad, you must make in order to use more technology products and software in the classroom? #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:22 PM EDT
    A2 Good consequences can included helping students understand their ability to connect globally with others and that helps their world to shrink a little. Also the training on software can help them in future situations/jobs. #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:23 PM EDT
    True, they have added some great features. I was using another application where they filled in bubbles and that was it. We had to use it for plc’s but I didn’t think the data was that great. #utedchat
    In reply to @salliewarnecke, @CanvasLMS
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:23 PM EDT
    A2 If you don't take time to help students understand the importance of good #DigCit then they could be being inappropriate online. Teaching #DigCit doesn't have to be hard, you just need to be consistent. #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:24 PM EDT
    Question 3 coming up in 1 minute… #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:24 PM EDT
    And let's not forget the bandwidth!!! As we push for more tech use in schools, bandwidth immediately becomes an issue. Let me tell you about the nightmares I was having leading up to the on-line ACT this year... It worked out, but many district trainings have failed. #UTEdchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:25 PM EDT
    Q3: Have you ever read an app or website’s privacy policy to understand what student data they are collecting and what they are doing with the data? Why is this important? #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:25 PM EDT
    I always tried to incorporate video making during the year because it’s a skill I see being very important in the not too distant future. As I recently heard, every instructional designer will also be required to be a media producer. #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:25 PM EDT
    Did you report the bandwidth issues to your tech dept? I know #UETN is amazing to work with districts to increase bandwidth caps when there is a near-constant need, so don't stop pushing, just make friends with your district tech folks. #UTedChat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1
  • downrightdave - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:26 PM EDT
    Are those the things I scroll through as fast as possible so I can click accept? #utedchat
    In reply to @tusz11
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:27 PM EDT
    A3 - I only read them when it is a new website or app that I am thinking of using in my classroom. If they are district approved, I assume that they are doing the right things with data. However, with recent issues like Facebook coming to light, you cannot be sure. #UTedChat
  • Vote4Kami Apr 4 @ 11:27 PM EDT
    A3: While I'm no longer a teacher, I'm in classrooms and work with teachers on a regular basis. I learn about a lot of new apps from them. Never once has the discussion of data privacy come up. I think the majority aren't even aware of the issue. #UtedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:27 PM EDT
    The really successful ones already are media producers NOW. Educators NEED to start learning some of the basics on using video and audio in their classrooms. YouTube is so important to students, we need to use video as a medium more often. #UTedChat
    In reply to @tusz11
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:28 PM EDT
    A3 I think we get caught up with all of the cool tech tools and the functionality it brings to teaching and learning that we sometimes don’t see some of the dangers, especially with free apps or websites. Nothing is free. The price we usually pay is giving student data #utedchat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:28 PM EDT
    Yes...before you click on that button which is actually a binding contract for you and your school. 😬 #utedchat
    In reply to @downrightdave
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:29 PM EDT
    That's why I really pushed to help get @MrNesi to #UCET18 because teachers, schools, & districts ALL need to start looking at ways of using the audio format & podcasts for helping to tell their stories & engage students. Plus, he's one of the best in podcasting today! #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:29 PM EDT
    A3: I'm super paranoid about my own privacy, so YES. The sites I use are not 'student specific.' We acces them through CANVAS and most don't require accounts. @CanvasLMS is licensed by my district and we have no say on that so I assume its vetted. #UTEdchat
    • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:25 PM EDT
      Q3: Have you ever read an app or website’s privacy policy to understand what student data they are collecting and what they are doing with the data? Why is this important? #UTedChat
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:29 PM EDT
    YES! I include video production at least twice a year and audio production once. It is such an important skill that is principle to so many jobs. I am considering using Youtube Live as a formative assessment tool next year. #utedchat.
    In reply to @lars3eb, @tusz11
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:30 PM EDT
    That’s changing, slowly but surely. You’re right though, it hasn’t really been an issue until recently. We need to do a better job getting the message out because it’s an important part of keeping student data protected. #utedchat
    In reply to @Vote4Kami
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:30 PM EDT
    A3b: The CANVAS App and a QR scanner are as far as I've gone with apps. Everything else is pretty much either a Google plug in (Chromebooks) or a general website. #UTEdchat Since my district also assigns everyone a Google account and drive, that's G2G too. #UTEdchat
    In reply to @CanvasLMS
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:30 PM EDT
    Wow, that'd be awesome! Have you already used @Flipgrid or @PeriscopeTV as a tool to help get students prepared for something like YouTube Live? Both are great tools. #UTedChat
    In reply to @TeacherWinters, @tusz11, @Flipgrid, @PeriscopeTV
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:31 PM EDT
    I think part of that is due to the districts stepping in and saying "This website, not that one" and taking out the guesswork. However, it should be on both levels, teachers and districts to understand and be connected to data privacy. #utedchat
    In reply to @Vote4Kami
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:32 PM EDT
    That’s good to know. You are in a small group. One thing i would warm though is that a lot of school districts are only recently starting to look at privacy policies because it’s required by law. #utedchat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1, @CanvasLMS
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:32 PM EDT
    In fact, there's a group of EDUs who use @PeriscopeTV monthly to share different topics with the world. They use #PassTheScopeEDU and it happens every 2nd Thursday of each month. You should check it out and join in this month or next! #UTedChat
    In reply to @TeacherWinters, @tusz11, @PeriscopeTV
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:32 PM EDT
    Been using @flipgrid and I love it. I don't know about @periscopeTV, but I am going to have students open a Twitter account next year to develop their PLCs and I think that might be part of that as well. #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb, @tusz11, @Flipgrid, @PeriscopeTV, @Flipgrid, @PeriscopeTV
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  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:33 PM EDT
    I report them to my LMTS, yes. We got an upgrade by the district for the ACT (thank heavens) but normally I just get laughed at. Because $$$. I've learned not to avoid. Burned too many times - self-inflicted by the district. We struggle at the end of EVERY QUARTER. #UTEdchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:34 PM EDT
    Question 4 coming up in 1 minute… #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:34 PM EDT
    A3 I have actually read a couple of website & app Privacy Policies, but I really don't do enough of it. I know they're technically contracts, but I don't love reading all the legalese mumbo jumbo. #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:34 PM EDT
    A3 if you’ve never read a privacy policy I highly suggest doing it because it’s amazing what you’ll find with some companies. Some are transparent and others...not so much, about what they do with the data #utedchat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:35 PM EDT
    Q4: What is your school or district doing in terms of training to inform faculty about protecting and securing student data? #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:35 PM EDT
    I would find out who in your district tech dept is over bandwidth and wifi and make friends. Send them treats and such. Offer to help them in testing out different settings, etc. That way when you ask for small favors they're more likely to respond. #UTedChat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:36 PM EDT
    You’re not alone. We are educators, not lawyers. Hard to sift through and make sense of it #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:36 PM EDT
    A3 I have tried reading some company/website Privacy Policies and actually fallen asleep before. Of course that may be more thanks to my issues of not sleeping enough, but still ... #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:36 PM EDT
    I have my students do a projects with Google slides, & collaborations, & an Animoto project & just added a Piktochart/CANVA requirement (possibly a bad idea, but next year it will go better). Sometimes I worry the tech gets in the way, but I see powerful opportunities. #UTEdchat
    In reply to @lars3eb, @tusz11
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:37 PM EDT
    There is a push to have approved website and app lists but also leading discussions throughout the district about data privacy. It is great to hear the conversations and see the lists, but it has created a sense of fear about using apps that they aren't sure about. #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:37 PM EDT
    A4 just so everyone is aware...state law requires that everyone employee with access to student data must be trained annually by the school district. If you haven’t received a training, I’d be happy to assist. It’s kind of my job 😉 #utedchat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:37 PM EDT
    Sometimes tech does get in the way of learning, but if it's the best tool for the project or assignment you go with it. If not, then skip it and do more #analog! #UTedChat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1, @tusz11
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:39 PM EDT
    I mean sure, that's a thing. But it's not going to get my bridge upgraded. Major $$$ investment. #UTEdchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:39 PM EDT
    Sometimes to get people to stop and think, fear is a good motivator. I hope it turns into something like a seatbelt where you can see there is danger if you don’t use it, but you’re doing it to be safe, not out of fear. #utedchat
    In reply to @TeacherWinters
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:39 PM EDT
    Yeah, @CanvasLMS has been vetted and approved for the WHOLE STATE OF UTAH so you're good to go! I am so excited the whole state of Utah has that license now. But good call on asking and wondering. #UTedChat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1, @CanvasLMS, @CanvasLMS
  • Vote4Kami Apr 4 @ 11:40 PM EDT
    A2: Good Consequences: Engaging, Relevancy for Students, Real World Application, Plethora of Resources Bad Consequences: Policing products, Ensuring everything meets the Core, Relying to heavily on a product #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:40 PM EDT
    True, but if districts can show they legitimately NEED greater bandwidth then they can go to UETN and make that case. UETN is on the side of learning and making sure schools and teachers have what they NEED! #UTedChat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:41 PM EDT
    I know I’ll never be invited back for saying this, but my current feelings towards VR run along that train of thought. 🤫 #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb, @DeborahGatrell1
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:41 PM EDT
    I feel like that is where we are headed and I cheer for that. People are already weary of tech that I worry that too much "law" talk will turn people off to using any tech at all. Analog is great, but tech is great too. #utedchat
    In reply to @tusz11
  • downrightdave - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:42 PM EDT
    #UTedchat
    In reply to @tusz11, @lars3eb, @DeborahGatrell1
  • marcihouseman Apr 4 @ 11:42 PM EDT
    Gotta run #utedchat! Thanks for the chat—so good to hear that #DataPrivacy is a priority!
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:42 PM EDT
    I love all the #ARVRinEDU stuff my pal @JaimeDonally is doing and sharing, but if it's just tech for tech's sake it isn't needed. Sometimes the tech is there to interest students and that's fine, but make sure the VR is helping and not hindering. #UTedChat
    In reply to @tusz11, @DeborahGatrell1, @JaimeDonally
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:43 PM EDT
    A4: Hahahahahahahahaha! More training. I'm sure I had to read a policy on it once. Maybe. #UTEdchat Mostly I am just my paranoid self and call it good. Seriously though, kids don't even understand NOT TO SAVE THEIR LOG IN INFO ON shared computers. We need to teach them better.
    • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:35 PM EDT
      Q4: What is your school or district doing in terms of training to inform faculty about protecting and securing student data? #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:43 PM EDT
    It’s good to have a mix. I think we are winding down from the days of the “shininess” of tech and are really looking at what helps student learn best. There are trends that pop up still that people get excited about in terms of tech, but it’s not as bad as it once was. #utedchat
    In reply to @TeacherWinters
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:43 PM EDT
    And don't worry, it takes MUCH MORE than disagreeing with or sharing a different opinion to get you removed from #UTedChat. We value open ideas and differing opinions as long as they're shared in positive and open manners. You're ALL GOOD! #UTedChat
    In reply to @tusz11, @DeborahGatrell1
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:44 PM EDT
    Question 5 coming up in 1 minute… #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:45 PM EDT
    Q5: What security practices do you and/or your school have in place in order to keep student personally identifiable information (PII) secure? #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:45 PM EDT
    Or just students...most of the educators we talk to have the browser remember their password or it’s found on a post it note on their computer monitor #utedchat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:45 PM EDT
    We're not allowed to install ANYTHING on our machines anymore. It has to be on the approved list and we have to submit a work order. Even for a printer. Pendulum has swung too far back towards network security there. #UTEdchat You can forget plug-ins and apps on school machines.
    In reply to @TeacherWinters
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:47 PM EDT
    A6 - Obviously no outside, unapproved apps/websites. I avoid any website that requires a login for my students (besides school logins to chromebooks and computers). Most of my colleagues seem to have the same practices and it works well. #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:47 PM EDT
    I'm playing with VR a little bit to augment learning. There are some cool things we can do with 360 videos on guided tours. The teacher is still crucial, but I love that I can take my students on a walk through Florence and some of the great art galleries of Europe. #UTEdchat
    In reply to @tusz11, @lars3eb
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:47 PM EDT
    I agree 100% with you on the change needing to come from outside the classroom, but sometimes you have to start the large fire with a small spark. Don't underestimate the power of a group of teachers starting a spark of need. #UTedChat
    In reply to @KiltedMath_T, @tusz11
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:47 PM EDT
    The pendulum is definitely swinging the other way. So much so that it’s becoming too restrictive to use tech sometimes. Just ask Louisiana. Hey passed a law last year that made them get parental permission for every app they used in class. #utedchat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1, @TeacherWinters
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:49 PM EDT
    Yes districts should be able to see the reports of bandwidth usage, but it doesn't hurt to mention when you're having issues. I've always found that when I communicate with my tech people respectively I tend to get better results. #UTedChat
    In reply to @KiltedMath_T, @DeborahGatrell1
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:49 PM EDT
    And that's a GREAT example of when the tech is totally adding to the experience. But yes, the teacher is still crucial to the proper usage. #UTedChat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1, @tusz11
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:50 PM EDT
    That means district Tech folks have to be convinced there is a need & make time to deal with the hassle. I'm sure there are plenty of folks willing to jump those hoops, but by the time that happens, my fail was weeks ago. Just sayin'. I still try, but am more cautious. #UTEdchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:50 PM EDT
    When I hear this, it makes my original point: If you make it difficult, scary, or more work to get tech in the classroom, less and less teachers are going to use it. #utedchat
    In reply to @tusz11, @DeborahGatrell1
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:50 PM EDT
    Europe is implementing some very strict laws that is making google and Facebook change their whole model of data collection. I think the government had a big role to play, but companies are lagging behind too. It’s something everyone can do to improve the process #utedchat
    In reply to @KiltedMath_T, @lars3eb
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:51 PM EDT
    And if you're looking to use more VR in your classroom, you should check out the #ARVRinEDU chat as well as follow my pal @JaimeDonally b/c she's the queen of AR & VR in schools. She even wrote a book about it. Coming soon! #UTedChat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1, @tusz11, @JaimeDonally
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:52 PM EDT
    Heck, I'm terrified of Password managers getting hacked, so I refuse to use those too. Where does that leave us? Trying to remember ALL. THE. PASSWORDS. All the time. So fun when the district forces me to change one in the middle of the school year! #UTEdchat
    In reply to @tusz11
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:52 PM EDT
    I think initially, but practices on all fronts should get better and I think you’ll see a happy medium eventually. At least I hope so. #utedchat
    In reply to @TeacherWinters, @DeborahGatrell1
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:52 PM EDT
    I believe it was something with the #GDPRcompliance situation. And yes, Europe is often ahead of the US when it comes to #DataPrivacy issues. It should really be the other way around though. #UTedChat
    In reply to @tusz11, @KiltedMath_T
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:54 PM EDT
    Question 6 coming up in 1 minute… #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:54 PM EDT
    A4 I know that many of the districts are starting to work with @UTPublicEd more in making sure they are keeping better logs of what apps/sites are being used as well as what Personal Identifiable Information (PII) is being collected. #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:54 PM EDT
    A5: We're not great at this in the digital realm. Obviously no posting of any of it, but some people get worried about FERPA information being shared through email as part of the performance of our duties. People struggle with passwords and encryption of documents. #UTEdchat
    • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:45 PM EDT
      Q5: What security practices do you and/or your school have in place in order to keep student personally identifiable information (PII) secure? #UTedChat
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:54 PM EDT
    Yeah, nothing is a 100% safe, but you learn to use what the industry experts use. I use a password manager because they encrypt all of the data so even if it’s hacked, they can’t use the data. Happened to LastPass and nothing bad really happened because it was encrypted #utedchat
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:54 PM EDT
    That is an interesting concept: The state will only allow vendors that ensure data privacy to a standard. That could take some of the guesswork out of it, plus it would be an automatic buyer beware for non-educators #utedchat
    In reply to @KiltedMath_T, @tusz11, @DeborahGatrell1
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:55 PM EDT
    Q6: Any funny/embarrassing/scary personal stories about being hacked or scammed that you want to share #UTedChat
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:55 PM EDT
    A4 Some of the awesome #sedck12 districts are sending out training emails to test if teachers are clicking on phishing/scam emails and it's working because if they click the trap they then have some training to go through. #UTedChat
  • DeborahGatrell1 Apr 4 @ 11:56 PM EDT
    I just took a Mixed Reality @UENpd class from @EdTecHakk. FIrst class ever! Now I'm presenting on it in August for @GraniteSchools Fall conference. I'll be playing with it a lot more between now and then to get ready. #UTEdchat
    In reply to @lars3eb, @tusz11, @JaimeDonally, @UENpd, @EdTecHakk, @GraniteSchools
  • downrightdave - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:56 PM EDT
    I use LastPass too, it’s great. #UTedchat
    In reply to @tusz11, @DeborahGatrell1
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:56 PM EDT
    That is an amazing idea. It is like a reverse, yet practical quiz on data privacy. Love it! #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:57 PM EDT
    A4 In fact, we've spent many days looking at different apps/sites schools are using and discussing how teachers can be safer. It's been a slow moving process, but we're at least moving forward. #UTedChat #sedck12
  • tusz11 Apr 4 @ 11:57 PM EDT
    We are working on something similar to this, but the state is weary of providing a list of apps you can and can’t use. We will bet their privacy policies and leave up to the districts as to whether they want to use it. That may require them to get parental permission #utedchat
    In reply to @TeacherWinters, @KiltedMath_T, @DeborahGatrell1
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:58 PM EDT
    You probably know these but I have been playing with @blippar and Google Expeditions. Both are great and have been useful in developing AR in my classroom. #utedchat Still a bit of a newbie at it.
    In reply to @DeborahGatrell1, @lars3eb, @tusz11, @JaimeDonally, @UENpd, @EdTecHakk, @GraniteSchools, @blippar
  • lars3eb - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:58 PM EDT
    Oh yeah, and it's amazing what can be done to help train teachers to start recognizing which emails are real and which are fake. #UTedChat
    In reply to @TeacherWinters
  • downrightdave - Moderator Apr 4 @ 11:59 PM EDT
    I know our district has been working hard on finding apps and sites that are safe. You have to start somewhere. #utedchat
    In reply to @lars3eb
  • TeacherWinters Apr 4 @ 11:59 PM EDT
    Thank you for letting us know. I can understand why they would be weary of any list, but sometimes it would take out the guesswork. #utedchat
    In reply to @tusz11, @KiltedMath_T, @DeborahGatrell1