#TCMchat Archive
Wednesday January 11, 2017
9:00 PM EST
tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:00 PM EST
Hi
@zack_hill
đź‘‹
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In reply to @zack_hill
TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Jan 11 @ 9:00 PM EST
Q1 How is the planning for a math discussion different from the planning for a more traditional math lesson?
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Jan 11 @ 9:00 PM EST
We are pleased that you are here. Let’s get to know each other.
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Jan 11 @ 9:00 PM EST
As we chat tonight keep the 2018 Focus Issue in mind. The submission deadline is July 31, 2017.
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:01 PM EST
Zak Champagne here. Excited to join this
#TCMChat
on math discourse. I've been working on being a better listener. So this is perfect for me
tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:02 PM EST
Toni Chieppa, 5th grade teacher
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FloradTeach
Jan 11 @ 9:02 PM EST
Happy Anniversary
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, glad I found you!
caroleseubert
Jan 11 @ 9:02 PM EST
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Carole S....Math Instructional Lead Teacher K-6...Greetings all!
In reply to @TCM_at_NCTM
Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:03 PM EST
Hilary Kreisberg here. I provide professional development on math discourse to K-8 Ts and am excited to learn more!
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zack_hill
Jan 11 @ 9:03 PM EST
Zack Hill, K-5 Math Coach
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:04 PM EST
It's been a great year
#TCMChat
friends! This thing works because of our community. Love to you all!
TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Jan 11 @ 8:55 PM EST
Happy Anniversary! We launched the first
#TCMchat
one year ago this week. Thank you to the many
#TCMpeeps
that make this venture a success
MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:04 PM EST
Mike. K-5 math instructional coach in Central PA.
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mrsperryd
Jan 11 @ 9:04 PM EST
Hello. Debbie Perry Elementary Math Lab Teacher
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:04 PM EST
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Nancy Belkov, author, consultant, math coach joining TCM chat on discourse.. one of my favorite topics!
MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:04 PM EST
Howdy
#TCMchat
. Glad to be here. Annie from
@themathforum
, sometimes K-5 math coach, among other things.
In reply to @themathforum
lsparks262
Jan 11 @ 9:05 PM EST
Leslie Sparks 2nd grade teacher from Port Orange Elem.
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caroleseubert
Jan 11 @ 9:05 PM EST
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A1 - Listening keenly and being very flexible for connection making
In reply to @TCM_at_NCTM
pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:06 PM EST
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Hi! Margie from PA K-12 Math Coach Glad to be here, but wifi is acting funky tonight. May be in and out
bkdidact
Jan 11 @ 9:07 PM EST
Hey
#TCMchat
join
@jennifuhs4
tomorrow for
#SwDMathChat
In reply to @jennifuhs4
bkdidact
Jan 11 @ 9:00 PM EST
Don't miss
#SwDMathChat
this Thursday led by
@jennifuhs4
#MTBoS
#ElemMathChat
#SpedChat
#Disabilities
#DisabilityRights
#udlchat
Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:07 PM EST
The Florida crew is strong tonight!
@zack_hill
@lsparks262
@mrsperryd
@tmchiepp
Gold you all are here.
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In reply to @zack_hill, @lsparks262, @mrsperryd, @tmchiepp
Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:07 PM EST
The Florida crew is strong tonight!
@zack_hill
@lsparks262
@mrsperryd
@tmchiepp
Glad you all are here.
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In reply to @zack_hill, @lsparks262, @mrsperryd, @tmchiepp
Twanayoung
Jan 11 @ 9:07 PM EST
Twana Young, Education consultant working w. Ts, Ss & Ps on math instruction. Excited for tonight's chat
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megyzr
Jan 11 @ 9:08 PM EST
Hi! I'm Megan PK-G8 teaching and learning coach, mathematics. American School of Dubai
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tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:08 PM EST
A1: the lesson design includes selecting, anticipating, and monitoring the discussion includes sequencing and connecting
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MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:09 PM EST
Hopefully everyone has seen your
#CMCmath
#ignite
about listening!
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https://t.co/TCuOuv3cRR
In reply to @Zakchamp
Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1- Does it have to be different? I think it's just the same! Anticipating Ss responses, Monitoring & Selecting Ss work, Connecting
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poly_math_
Jan 11 @ 9:09 PM EST
Congrats to
@TCM_at_NCTM
on your 1-yr
#TCMchat
anniversary! On behalf of the
@MTMS_at_NCTM
panel!
In reply to @TCM_at_NCTM, @MTMS_at_NCTM
Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:09 PM EST
Hey
#TCMChat
peeps - Make sure you check out
#SWMathChat
. And of course, keeping up with
@bkdidact
is a must!
In reply to @bkdidact
bkdidact
Jan 11 @ 9:07 PM EST
Hey
#TCMchat
join
@jennifuhs4
tomorrow for
#SwDMathChat
In reply to @jennifuhs4
bkdidact
Jan 11 @ 9:00 PM EST
Don't miss
#SwDMathChat
this Thursday led by
@jennifuhs4
#MTBoS
#ElemMathChat
#SpedChat
#Disabilities
#DisabilityRights
#udlchat
Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:10 PM EST
Write! We need your voices
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Jan 11 @ 9:00 PM EST
As we chat tonight keep the 2018 Focus Issue in mind. The submission deadline is July 31, 2017.
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Jan 11 @ 9:10 PM EST
Q2 What are some of your favorite tasks that you’ve used to drive math discussions in the classroom?
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susiekatt
Jan 11 @ 9:10 PM EST
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Hi from Nebraska! Susie Katt, K-2 Math coordinator. Excited to be a part of this chat!
KatePeterson123
Jan 11 @ 9:10 PM EST
Hi! Kate Peterson from MA, 2nd Gr Title 1 Teacher
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megyzr
Jan 11 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: plan for T moves that allow S voice, stems for Ss to use to talk, set up culture of "how" we talk about our thinking/learning
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normabgordon
Jan 11 @ 9:11 PM EST
Norma coach+ from MA just popping in and out tonight
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zack_hill
Jan 11 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 I think the planning includes a deliberate flexibility because you never know the exact twists and turns of the conversation.
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devin_andersond
Jan 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
Hello Devin from Columbus, Ohio.
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
A2 - Notice/Wonder, 3 Act Tasks, estimation 180, open middle.
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FloradTeach
Jan 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 Need to lay foundation, ground rules when discussing topics, math or otherwise.
@Mme_Lachance
used these sentences to guide Ss
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pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
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A1: being intentional in choosing rich tasks, anticipating Ss responses & possible struggles, allowing Ss opportunity to dialogue
LooneyMath
Jan 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
Hi Sue from Boston area. Math consultant
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 Agreed. Traditionally S thinking wasn't always focused on!
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In reply to @megyzr
MrsKuepper
Jan 11 @ 9:13 PM EST
Hi! Kayla Kuepper, T1 Teacher in Avon, IN
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:13 PM EST
Ooooh. Deliberate flexibility. I like this play on words. You plan for what may happen, but prepare for the unexpected.
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zack_hill
Jan 11 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 I think the planning includes a deliberate flexibility because you never know the exact twists and turns of the conversation.
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devin_andersond
Jan 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: Traditional planning may have been more about "activities". Planning for discourse has more intentionality & anticipation.
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MrsKuepper
Jan 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2:
https://t.co/L1kf71Z04y
I used this in teaching my 1st graders to talk about math. It had variety and more than one answer!
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MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: Plan higher level Qs that move beyond recall and rote memory. Probs w/ more than 1 poss answer. Prompts that stir debate.
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poly_math_
Jan 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
Hi from NY. Math chair, educator, teacher educator and chair of
@MTMS_at_NCTM
. Glad to join
@TCM_at_NCTM
tonight.
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In reply to @MTMS_at_NCTM, @TCM_at_NCTM
mathcoachrivera
Jan 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2: using any of
@gfletchy
3 act tasks always gets kids excited and talking.
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In reply to @gfletchy
Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:15 PM EST
Q2- Number Talks and
@FractionTalks
are my current favorite - can be applied to anything!
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In reply to @FractionTalks
pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:15 PM EST
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A2 Love Notice & Wonder (
@MFAnnie
@maxmathforum
) 3-act tasks (
@gfletchy
) & numberless word problems (
@bstockus
)
In reply to @MFAnnie, @maxmathforum, @gfletchy, @bstockus
Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:16 PM EST
Definitely!
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KatePeterson123
Jan 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
YES! to your list...also WODB!
In reply to @Zakchamp
caroleseubert
Jan 11 @ 9:16 PM EST
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A2 Almost anything that's puzzle based or opened- something about multiple ways of seeing & possible paths to success
In reply to @TCM_at_NCTM
NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:16 PM EST
So much is in the timing & way task is used. Favorite tasks include focus on problems, ideas Ss will wonder about!
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In reply to @Zakchamp
Twanayoung
Jan 11 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1 Mindset must be ready 2 engage Ss differently Ts step back let Ss lead Be ready 2 explore Ss thinking right & not so right
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:17 PM EST
Good call on the numberless word problems Margie!
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In reply to @pearse_margie, @MFAnnie, @maxmathforum, @gfletchy, @bstockus
MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: Which One Doesn't Belong, Notice/Wonder, What different ways can this be solved? Create discussions and really facilitate SMP3
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tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:17 PM EST
Q2: to add to the list, Number Talks (open strategy sharing) followed by compare and connect or what's best and why?
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pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:17 PM EST
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A2: Love
@classroomchef
&
@openmiddle
In reply to @classroomchef, @openmiddle
devin_andersond
Jan 11 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: Fosnots contexts for learning, open middle, wodb, and numberless word problems.
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:17 PM EST
So true right? A great task is only as great as the teacher implementing it.
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In reply to @NancyBelkov
megyzr
Jan 11 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: any open middle or
@ddmeyer
@mburnsmath
, allow pathways based on Ss thinking, work, opps to follow Ss talk, strats, ponder etc.
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In reply to @ddmeyer, @mburnsmath
Dina0Brien
Jan 11 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2 Would you Rather Math is good as well
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Twanayoung
Jan 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
Yes! Planning & flexibility is key. Important to plan Qs for academic triggers that when explored w. Be rich convo
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In reply to @zack_hill
lsparks262
Jan 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: Favorite hands down.... Number Talks! Students ❤ to share their thinking! The discussions are priceless.
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MrsKuepper
Jan 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
A1: Explicitly teaching S how to talk about math. "I agree b/c", "I disagree b/c" The foundation must be taught.
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LooneyMath
Jan 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
We could add three facts and a fib to this growing list!
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Jan 11 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q3 How do we balance encouraging student creativity with maintaining a focus on the mathematical goal of the lesson?
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zack_hill
Jan 11 @ 9:20 PM EST
Love Which One Doesn't Belong! I've been reading this with my 4 year old and the convos have been so fun.
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In reply to @MikeRashidMath
Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:20 PM EST
Ha! But that's what it's about right? The preparation prepares you for for the unexpected, even though you didn't plan for it.
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Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:17 PM EST
LOVE what you just wrote. "plan for what may happen, but prepare for the unexpected"... TM that now!
In reply to @Zakchamp
mathcoachrivera
Jan 11 @ 9:21 PM EST
teacher createdhis for a math station. Kids created one and had a math chat with their peers.
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MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:22 PM EST
I've been making them up with my 7 year old and she loves them! Comes up with some things I'd never think.
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In reply to @zack_hill
megyzr
Jan 11 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3: T still facilitates, can be paraphrasing to get "big ideas" on the table; interactive mini-lessons, end with "math huddle"
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3 - question of the night for me. I can't wait to hear answers from my
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crew on this one.
Twanayoung
Jan 11 @ 9:23 PM EST
@MikeRashidMath
Exploring incorrect answers & proving why make 4 great debates too!
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In reply to @MikeRashidMath
MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: Plan higher level Qs that move beyond recall and rote memory. Probs w/ more than 1 poss answer. Prompts that stir debate.
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Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:23 PM EST
A3- Math Discourse is NOT show&tell - Its all about how u monitor & select!
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:23 PM EST
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Planning Qs ahead to help focus lesson. Qs help connect creative ideas to task by comparing. Love Zak's"Where to you see....?"
mathcoachrivera
Jan 11 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: teacher created this activity for a math station. Kids created one and had a math chat with their peers.
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Dina0Brien
Jan 11 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3 I think connecting the concepts to each other just keeps it flowing
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MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:24 PM EST
A3: I loved that point. Comes up a lot in my work. 1st, T must make sure they keep math goal in mind, not just have fun a activity.
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3Careful selection & Qs that have Ss reason about other Ss ideas keeps creativity on track!
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In reply to @Dr_Kreisberg
normabgordon
Jan 11 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3: good question! Anticipate Ss responses note: best when collaborating w/ other Ts. Honor đź’ˇ and use "parking lot" when off-focus
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zack_hill
Jan 11 @ 9:25 PM EST
Nice! Love the creativity. My 4 year old explained that rectangles can lay down or stand up but squares can't.
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In reply to @MikeRashidMath
devin_andersond
Jan 11 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3:Partner a strat that celebrates/capitalizes on everyone's thkng ex-gallery walk &one that has more specific purpose ex-congress.
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KatePeterson123
Jan 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
Q3 turn and talks allow for all Ss to share their thoughts without taking up too much air time
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
This is the central idea of our 2018 focus issue. "Moving Beyond Show and Tell" Got a manuscript in mind?
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In reply to @Dr_Kreisberg
tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3: how does your strategy relate to your partner's (the partner's being closer to the goal) you did this in the video
@zack_hill
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In reply to @zack_hill
pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
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A3: eavesdropping for morsels of good mathematical thinking to connect to purpose. Being intentional when choosing groups to share
MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:27 PM EST
That's awesome for a 4 year old! Here's my favorite that I created. Not always about numbers.
https://t.co/3Nhq14L7U7
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In reply to @zack_hill
Twanayoung
Jan 11 @ 9:27 PM EST
@MrsKuepper
Yes! Ss must learn how 2 share their thinking. Using accountable talk strategies helps promote math communication
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MrsKuepper
Jan 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
A1: Explicitly teaching S how to talk about math. "I agree b/c", "I disagree b/c" The foundation must be taught.
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:27 PM EST
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Ts reflecting in grps on how Qs & facilitation used Ss creative ideas to develop math thkg helps us refine facilitation!
zack_hill
Jan 11 @ 9:28 PM EST
Yeah, that's one of my "go to's." Even if I don't end up highlighting the strategy, it's deepening understanding.
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In reply to @tmchiepp
tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:28 PM EST
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always intentional
pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
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A3: eavesdropping for morsels of good mathematical thinking to connect to purpose. Being intentional when choosing groups to share
MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:28 PM EST
Love
#WODB
! Gave
@Trianglemancsd
's book to my sister's family. Here's 8 yr old explaining it to grandpa.
#TCMchat
In reply to @MikeRashidMath, @Trianglemancsd
Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:28 PM EST
#TCMChat
crew - you are crushing it with your answers to Q3. Such great stuff here.
Twanayoung
Jan 11 @ 9:29 PM EST
A2 Visual math puzzles from
#stmath
are a great way to engage Ss in discourse
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MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:30 PM EST
Absolutely! Keep the focus on the math.
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In reply to @MFAnnie
TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Jan 11 @ 9:30 PM EST
Q4 How do you select and use examples of Ss work to support the class in making sense of the ideas shared in a discussion?
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lsparks262
Jan 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3: It is always about balance! We have to "hook" them & encourage them, so they are able to build the mathematical knowledge!
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zack_hill
Jan 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
Love "keeping creativity on track." Sounds like a gentle guiding back to the goal of the lesson.
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In reply to @NancyBelkov, @Dr_Kreisberg
MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
Not just keep focus, but know focus, and monitor for Ss understanding goal, not just getting answers.
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In reply to @MikeRashidMath
mathteacher5
Jan 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3 SolutionSideline-post nonshared solutions for all to see later. Ask S to make connections from sideline to main points of lesson
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:32 PM EST
We may not think of every possibility. Maybe Qs to help Ss think about what the connections are.
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In reply to @Dr_Kreisberg, @LooneyMath
Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:32 PM EST
Great idea here friends!
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mathteacher5
Jan 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3 SolutionSideline-post nonshared solutions for all to see later. Ask S to make connections from sideline to main points of lesson
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pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
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A4: Anticipate & look for ways to connect. Post in an order that supports intention. Have Ss notice similarities & differences
Dina0Brien
Jan 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 it's important to share "best mistakes" as well as "first try solutions" because we learn from both
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Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4- Start w low floor --> high ceiling; progressions- choose additive before multiplicative response; concrete-->pic-->abs
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MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
Yes, have to know your destination before you get in the car and put it in drive.
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In reply to @MFAnnie
mathcoachrivera
Jan 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
Look for trends in misconceptions and share those after sharing some examples of various correct ways to get to the correct answer
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FloradTeach
Jan 11 @ 9:34 PM EST
Will be creating WODB pics for the K's when they get off the bus in the morning and line up to be taken to class, any suggestions?
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tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4
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as suggested by
@zack_hill
I need to be more deliberate in using the 3rd and 4th bullets more
In reply to @zack_hill
LooneyMath
Jan 11 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: clipboard cruise for various solutions, then sort and sequence C-R-A ask ss to notice how are these alike?
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4 - It definitely depends on the mathematical focus of the lesson. But it's not always low, medium, high
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devin_andersond
Jan 11 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4:Try to use progressions ex: Battista or Fosnot then choose work that will most impact the whole group. Also use in T pd.
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4
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Knowing content & what you are looking for. Having Ss make sense of & discuss each other's work.
pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:36 PM EST
#tcmchat
Here are a few our kindies loves
In reply to @FloradTeach
MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: Select a range of answers from incorrect to correct. Discuss misconceptions, errors, etc. Let students discuss and uncover.
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KatePeterson123
Jan 11 @ 9:36 PM EST
Q4 I like to start w idea/strategy that is most common, then select work that is more efficient or not yet shared & make connection
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:37 PM EST
What a great teacher move. Choose the strategies that will make the greatest impact on the whole group.
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In reply to @devin_andersond
FloradTeach
Jan 11 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4 Need 2 know what your goal or expectation for the task and then primarily pick work that represents this,but need to be flexible
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:38 PM EST
Fosnots units are very helpful ! Gallery walks helpful to have Ss make sense of ideas of others.
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In reply to @devin_andersond
Twanayoung
Jan 11 @ 9:38 PM EST
A3 Visible thinking strategies r great 2 help Ss connect convos & keep Q central. It also encourage eval & challenging of thinking
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:38 PM EST
I worry that always presenting strategies from the least sophisticated to most sophisticated may send the wrong idea
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In reply to @Dr_Kreisberg
MikeRashidMath
Jan 11 @ 9:38 PM EST
I like that idea. Let me work on that. I'll let you know.
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In reply to @Dina0Brien, @zack_hill
Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:38 PM EST
A4 - Don't forget about the kids who weren't successful - how do you bring them into it?
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FloradTeach
Jan 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
Thanks, Margie! Will be working on it this weekend, gave me some ideas!
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In reply to @pearse_margie
caroleseubert
Jan 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 Usually look for work that thinking most visible (needs T modeling and S practice) &may be laid out in stages/acts
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In reply to @TCM_at_NCTM
MarkChubb3
Jan 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 I like to start with the most accessible, then build from there. Not always starting with most simple
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
Low, medium, high is a district initiative here in NE Florida & unfortunately, every lesson ends with that sequence
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In reply to @Dr_Kreisberg
lsparks262
Jan 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4: Like using the most common first and then building from there. Ss (all levels)can't wait to share their ideas/thinking
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MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:40 PM EST
Right. Is there S work that would give them connection to possible path?
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In reply to @Dr_Kreisberg
TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Jan 11 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q5 How do you facilitate student connections during math discussions? (both among students’ ideas and to the goal of the lesson)
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:40 PM EST
But yes - for twitter purposes, I think these two things are synonymous.
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In reply to @Dr_Kreisberg
MrsKuepper
Jan 11 @ 9:40 PM EST
A4: Name the strategies that Ss came up w/ based on their name. Ss in elem. love this & connect to it. Ex.-Bob's strategy, etc
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MarkChubb3
Jan 11 @ 9:41 PM EST
I agree. Depends on age. Ss figure out pretty quick if a T saves the "smart" ones for last
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In reply to @Zakchamp, @Dr_Kreisberg
NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:41 PM EST
But work accessible to all gets the ball rolling. Use Qs to bring out sophisticated ideas in all work.
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In reply to @Zakchamp, @Dr_Kreisberg
Twanayoung
Jan 11 @ 9:41 PM EST
@Dina0Brien
Agreed! Sharing mistakes helps Ss see them as learning opportunities
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In reply to @Dina0Brien
Dina0Brien
Jan 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 it's important to share "best mistakes" as well as "first try solutions" because we learn from both
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:41 PM EST
This is a question that can't be adequately answered in 140 characters. :) Short answer is no.
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FloradTeach
Jan 11 @ 9:42 PM EST
Need 2 show diff representations but also diff ways of how their understanding is communicated, may be wrong answer but like layout
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KatePeterson123
Jan 11 @ 9:42 PM EST
A5 ask student to compare, what do u notice? How can we make this more efficient? Why?
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mathcoachrivera
Jan 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
Here's an interesting idea on how to share student ideas and keep it focused on the lesson
@UConnNeag
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https://t.co/iIm2dN1rEt
megyzr
Jan 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
A5: allow time for it, prompt: Noticing? Wondering? Invite Ss to "add-to" their thinking, bldg on others ideas, use S strat by name
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pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
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technology acting up. Night all. Great chat! LOVE topic! One of my fav books EVER
Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
Sometimes you can linger only on one idea for the day. I don't think its necessary to always show L,M,H
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zack_hill
Jan 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
A5 For connecting S representations I tend to lean heavy on the stem, "Where do you see __ in ___?"
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normabgordon
Jan 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: I like "my favorite no" approach select common misconceptions - all thinking is validated+valued and we can learn from mistakes
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MarkChubb3
Jan 11 @ 9:44 PM EST
A5 Sometimes I ask a group to come up. Ask the class what they notice. Class discusses their thinking & group responds.
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TAnnalet
Jan 11 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5 If sharing written strategies, ask other students to explain each others ideas
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5 Nic focuing ?
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TAnnalet
Jan 11 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5 Kind of like..I share my strategy you explain why I did what I did.. "read my mind"
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tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5 from
@ekazemi
and
@allisonhintz124
intentional talk
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MarkChubb3
Jan 11 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5 Making connections is difficult and very topic and classroom specific.
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:46 PM EST
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I'm all butter fingers tonight! Nice focusing ?
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MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:46 PM EST
Always good to make sure other Ss have a task while looking at another S's work.
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normabgordon
Jan 11 @ 9:46 PM EST
especially powerful when connecting numerical or algebraic concepts with visual representations
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zack_hill
Jan 11 @ 9:47 PM EST
Yeah, love this move. Why have the S who created the work explain when other S have the opportunity to make sense of it?
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giveawayseba
Jan 11 @ 9:47 PM EST
A5 Making connections is difficult and very topic and classroom specific.
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MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:47 PM EST
I love this one. Saw it done in K once. All Ss worked really hard to make sense of displayed work!
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LooneyMath
Jan 11 @ 9:47 PM EST
@pearse_margie
book suggests asking for math to math, math to self, and math to world connections -links to ELA
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:47 PM EST
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But it is so much fun. Great to be explicit w Ss that we are looking to make connections!
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TAnnalet
Jan 11 @ 9:48 PM EST
And kids add a lot this way to each others thinking
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MarkChubb3
Jan 11 @ 9:48 PM EST
General strategies to help make connections: -get Ss to notice differences...then similarities -do the opposite -Frayer model -
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Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5- I refer to SMPs to scaffold discussion! Ts bring connections to math while encouraging Ss to make their own connections
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TAnnalet
Jan 11 @ 9:48 PM EST
Works great with clothesline
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tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:48 PM EST
yes 🙌
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devin_andersond
Jan 11 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5:Embracing the mess!Jumping in giving Ss opps to talk/write &then coaching alongside &providing supports like sentence stems.
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Twanayoung
Jan 11 @ 9:49 PM EST
Have Ss wrk in grps 2 explore thinking in wrong answs "talk" through ideas & examine error 2 identify another path
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MarkChubb3
Jan 11 @ 9:49 PM EST
Yes! Moving beyond "show & tell" ...moving beyond Ss telling a narrative of HOW they solved... is key!!!
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TCM_at_NCTM
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Jan 11 @ 9:50 PM EST
Q6 What are some other video resources that allow us to embrace the “transparency of our work” in order to promote professionalism?
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Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:50 PM EST
So many responses tonight linking numeracy to literacy
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NancyBelkov
Jan 11 @ 9:50 PM EST
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A5 Explicitly asking Ss to make connections & engage in SMPs develops our Ss as mathematicians!
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MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:50 PM EST
I hate math show and tell, unless "tell" is all about decisions behind calcs!
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MarkChubb3
Jan 11 @ 9:50 PM EST
Often! Is that different from what I said? Maybe I wasn't clear???
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devin_andersond
Jan 11 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5: Wanting to try more shared writing and modeled language opps with primary Ts to support this too.
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MarkChubb3
Jan 11 @ 9:52 PM EST
Totally agree! Was thinking how to respond to a difficult Q! Hard to explain because I don't always do same thing
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pearse_margie
Jan 11 @ 9:53 PM EST
love clothesline here's my 7th graders today. Love how they were conferring and arguing and revising
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6 - I like these videos of
@gfletchy
teaching one his 3 act tasks.
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https://t.co/m55Ox8AXBU
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megyzr
Jan 11 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6: our coaching is job-embedded from partnership (not deficit) model. I grab vids often, populate shrd folder, Ts share lrng walks
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tmchiepp
Jan 11 @ 9:55 PM EST
I guess this is you nudging us ;)
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Dr_Kreisberg
Jan 11 @ 9:58 PM EST
A6 -
@gfletchy
's latest progression videos do just that!
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Zakchamp
Jan 11 @ 9:59 PM EST
Such a great night
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friends! Talk to you all soon. Special thanks to
@TCM_at_NCTM
for hosting and
@zack_hill
for sharing his posts!
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MFAnnie
Jan 11 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6:
@themathforum
has vids of us modeling diff forms of
#NoticeWonder
in Gr3-8. Not whole lessons, though.
https://t.co/RAUwzjbSlx
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