#sstlap Archive
Weekly chat 8CST that infuses the ideas of Teach Like a Pirate by Dave Burgess into the Social Studies classroom.
Thursday October 5, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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Tonight we talk about how to engage students in conversation about controversial or current events
participatechat
Oct 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Thanks for joining
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please introduce yourself name local grade subject best moment of this week
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Ben Brazeau Tech Integrator, former social studies host
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GB WI connecting a homebound student to our VR via GHO
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scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi
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Scott Petri, HS World History T from So Cal. Excited that 84% of my Ss turned in battlefield med papers early
JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Jeremy, Connecticut, parent of 3rd & 8th graders (so I'm all subjects?). Best moment was an engaging dinnertime convo about school.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Thanks for joining
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please introduce yourself name local grade subject best moment of this week
Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
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Chuck from Milrockee - 8th AmStud w/
@DrLWalczak
- just got an email from former methods student, describing some SS in her class!
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
hey Scott- glad you could join
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always good to see you buddy
In reply to @scottmpetri
LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Laura, kindergarten teacher in MN joining! Best memory was when 1 of my Ss finally learned the letter Aa!!!
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hey Jeremy- great to hear kids are talking about what is going on at school
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In reply to @JeremyDBond
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hey Chuck- sorry I missed you this weekend- hope WCSS went well
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In reply to @Chucktaft, @DrLWalczak
Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
a1
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a meaningful, polarizing, perspective-laden Q is the bets starting point - love using EQs for discussion
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
awesome- love the moments of student success and the ah ha moments
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In reply to @LauraGarlow
scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
BTW I'm teaching a class on this topic w
@crfusa
https://t.co/gWOi0HuoCl
online for FREE. Jump in and join us
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In reply to @Braz74, @crfusa
teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Krystle Smith-Alabama-8th ancient history-We explored Egypt on google earth & a kid found a 360 of a recent tomb too!
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burgessdave
Oct 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hey!!
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is rolling right now with
@Braz74
Join in!
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#PlayLAP
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Thanks for joining
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please introduce yourself name local grade subject best moment of this week
jmadlin001
Oct 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Julie from NNY. I teach gr 7 & 8 U.S. History. Best moment was watching a Ss invite a new Ss to sit w/ her at lunch.
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EvaaaaanD
Oct 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1) during Socratic seminars - use smartboard to display engaging visuals to provoke thought and have students question
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Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
missed you in Madtown,
@Braz74
- hope to catch you in December
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In reply to @Braz74, @DrLWalczak, @Braz74
LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Exactly! It was especially great since we've been drilling the letter Aa for 3 days!
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In reply to @Braz74
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
I tried a lot Agree/Disagree was probably best - but never felt like I go all students engaged - picking right topic really mattered
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1:(1/2)one of my colleagues showed me concept annotations. I have the students pre-read their shirt GR notes & annotate...
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Yes- In my answer pointed out best convo came from good questions- choosing Qs wisely purposefully makes all the difference
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Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
a1
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a meaningful, polarizing, perspective-laden Q is the bets starting point - love using EQs for discussion
teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1:(2/2) then we spend 5-10m discussing & adding to our notes. We try to keep making connections with the concepts.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
awesome- have to check it out- getting students to discuss isn't easy and i wasn't great so love to learn more
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scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
BTW I'm teaching a class on this topic w
@crfusa
https://t.co/gWOi0HuoCl
online for FREE. Jump in and join us
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In reply to @Braz74, @crfusa
JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
The most interesting wasn't about academics but kid-to-kid dynamics. But hey, that's social learning.
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In reply to @Braz74
jmadlin001
Oct 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 I like to have Ss journal first then we discuss.
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: here's an example of concept & EU's with it. We add as we see them in our notes/activities.
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scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 I like using the Civil Conversation model from
@crfusa
https://t.co/xFF5HrG8Gn
Lot's of free lessons.
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Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1
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I use the "no claim without evidence" mantra - got an opinion? Back it up with facts! (why I can't argue DetLions are best ever)
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
yes most of the things my kids talk about are social interactions.
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
The most interesting wasn't about academics but kid-to-kid dynamics. But hey, that's social learning.
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In reply to @Braz74
teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I'm hoping to really rock a Socratic seminar on Alexander the Great next month! Getting ready materials now!
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In reply to @EvaaaaanD
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Krystle, great to have you join. we did VR with expeditions and pyramids today
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love to check out G Earth
In reply to @teachNcoffee
LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1 kindergarteners love to talk so I use lots of questions, turn & talk, whisper it into your hand, visual signals for answers
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: here's an example of concept & EU's with it. We add as we see them in our notes/activities.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Hey Julie- always great to see you - how are things
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In reply to @jmadlin001
teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
AGREED! I have a poster that just says BECAUSE...
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In reply to @Chucktaft
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
As a parent I'm following these answers as guidance for home, too. I always want to know whether and how these convos go in schools.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
nice- I have heard of socratic seminars, but never used- need to learn more- love the tech infustion
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In reply to @EvaaaaanD
scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1 Socratic Smackdown FREE resource for Ts gamifying classroom conversations.
https://t.co/YgCt8tBuRB
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
yes- should be able to - grad class was kicking my ..
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In reply to @Chucktaft, @DrLWalczak
dmfouts
Oct 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1 Help Ss understand that asking a great question and articulating somebody else's thoughts are valid forms of participation
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: I struggle here. It doesn't feel natural to do wheel or sticks & make them answer.
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: I try to check their jot notes & look for "ah-ha" faces so I know their confident before they answer
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Maybe why the supposedly difficult topics need to start early. They get used to talking about them. Discomfort is the No. 1 barrier.
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1 kindergarteners love to talk so I use lots of questions, turn & talk, whisper it into your hand, visual signals for answers
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scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2 Turn & Talks help introverts feel safe & comfy b4 discuss. Article from
@erik_palmer
https://t.co/HhqgMxPSGM
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Love it!! My Ss think it's the greatest when we whisper an answer and hold it. Then we "let it go" when all have an answer
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In reply to @teachNcoffee
jmadlin001
Oct 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Busy planning a unit w/ our ELA teacher using The Winter People. So excited!
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In reply to @Braz74
EvaaaaanD
Oct 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2) turn and talk -- build confidence before addressing whole group. Establish rapport/trust
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Agree!! We've talked about bullying, families, various "hard topics" & they all have something to say
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In reply to @JeremyDBond
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 used backchannel- today's meet- partner discussion share an idea partner expressed-small group convo with roles each had to share
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
love cross curriculuar
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In reply to @jmadlin001
scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Have introverts write responses before the discussion. They feel safer when they have a script to work from.
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
I may try this with my think pair share in 8th 👍🏼
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In reply to @LauraGarlow
dmfouts
Oct 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Give Ss chance to write reflections after discussions-- share their ideas the day after-- this gives confidence to speak up later
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kris_vanduyne
Oct 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: while Ss are working, we look at response & give 👍 on great work. This gives kids a boost-then we ask to read aloud to class.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
have used google classroom and done digital conversation- post and reply to others- get ideas and they don't get put on the spot
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In reply to @teachNcoffee
LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 I use turn & talks, whispering in the hand & visual signals to encourage my shy & call on them right away when their hand is up!!
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I may try this in a bellringer after a group discussion/chat next week. Thank you!
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In reply to @dmfouts
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I like the thumbs up-you get then engaged and then can work on getting more from them-but they at least give you a response to start
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kris_vanduyne
Oct 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: while Ss are working, we look at response & give 👍 on great work. This gives kids a boost-then we ask to read aloud to class.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
You'll have to let me know what they think! My Ss love it!!! We do it all day
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In reply to @teachNcoffee
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q3
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Hi
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, sorry to be late. This is Bill, retired, from Berkeley, CA.
Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2
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often use
@TodaysMeet
before a discussion to preheat the chat - also use it as backchannel
JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I kind of had this revelation as I was typing it. Not sure why I address "hard" topics with my 12 yo much more than with my 8 yo.
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In reply to @LauraGarlow
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
yes same concept just digitally is easier to pull it all together also like audio recording group convo to get ss focused
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I want to go digital so bad. I've had bum tablets in my room all week. Maybe pass & reply for now until we catch up digitally!
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1 Give them small group problems from real life that pique their interest. See
https://t.co/JcsA3wMV6I
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3:I teach in the rural south.I'm terrified to bring up discussion because parents have strong views at home & kids are open
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advice?
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I like the idea of think time- let them write before respond. And the writing can be bullet points, not paragraphs-
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dmfouts
Oct 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Give Ss chance to write reflections after discussions-- share their ideas the day after-- this gives confidence to speak up later
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kris_vanduyne
Oct 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1: give Ss time to discuss in pairs or small groups. Builds confidence to discuss w/peers. Have diff kid speak for group each round
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I think some of it is to "protect" them. But we talked about what happened on 911 and what lockdowns are really for
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In reply to @JeremyDBond
jmadlin001
Oct 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2 Working in small groups or blogging works well.
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Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3
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we have to bring up the hard topics - but I try to remain out of the fray by arguing both sides - it's tough ... getting tougher
classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 The same way I dealt with all topics, Ss can say what they think as long as they are civil, responsive & can support assertions.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
hey Bill great to have you join the
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crew as always
In reply to @classroomtools
scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3
@procon_org
gives Ss both sides of the controversial issue. Let them pick topic.
https://t.co/NsaxA5iArp
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I think it was Maurice Sendak who relayed the story of a little girl who was lighthearted about what she saw on 9/11...ever hear it?
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In reply to @LauraGarlow
classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Thanks Ben, happy to be here and see all of you.
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In reply to @Braz74
teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Maybe this is why I'm timid. It's so hard to remain objective lately & at 13-14 they get it & start asking hard questions!
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In reply to @Chucktaft
LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3 simplify things. We discuss things at the most basic level and guide our discussion through books & pics
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jmadlin001
Oct 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3 Set clear expectations before discussions.
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dmfouts
Oct 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 Have Ss restate position of another S with whom they disagree-require it before speaking.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Had ss write legislation to support their position. Debate agree/disagree and undecided - UND had to move A/D after initial convo
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q3
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
No!!! I'll have to look into that! Could be interesting to further discuss with Ss
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In reply to @JeremyDBond
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I like the use of pre-class discussion to preheat-- very cool strategy
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Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2
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often use
@TodaysMeet
before a discussion to preheat the chat - also use it as backchannel
classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I always argued for what I believed, just as I asked students to do. But same rules applied to me. I had to support what I said ...
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In reply to @Chucktaft
JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Do you ever let them say whatever and then ask, "What do others think?" Then suggest there are other ways of looking at everything?
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In reply to @teachNcoffee
classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
... and listen/question other POVs civilly and responsively.
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In reply to @Chucktaft
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
yes-like the part of piquing their interest-often pass on discussing things ss come to class asking about - embrace opp to engage ss
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A1 Give them small group problems from real life that pique their interest. See
https://t.co/JcsA3wMV6I
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
I think other ways came out without prompting.
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In reply to @JeremyDBond, @teachNcoffee
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
hope all is well. we are heading into fall for real - temps dropped this week.. not ready for cold..
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In reply to @classroomtools
scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3
@BRInstitute
Remind students that debating matters of public concern is essential.
https://t.co/TjzHhqxVrY
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q4
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I have lots of Ss with rough family conditions so we read a book about kids whose mom isn't always home
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In reply to @dmfouts
classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Yes, all is well. A fall chill has hit Berkeley too.
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In reply to @Braz74
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
this is tough- you will always have diff POV. I always framed idea of if we don't talk about issues we can never fix issues
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3:I teach in the rural south.I'm terrified to bring up discussion because parents have strong views at home & kids are open
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advice?
Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I've always wondered about doing that, Bill - I don't want to sway them ... but maybe it's a better example or successful debate
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In reply to @classroomtools
LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
So they go to live w/an aunt & then we talked about how they felt & how and why our families are different
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In reply to @dmfouts
JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Safer, and I imagine (as a hopeless introvert), easier to gather their thoughts. Harder for them to get the space to express them.
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In reply to @scottmpetri
dmfouts
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2 and A3 Have a commercial break half-way through. Give one minute for Ss to recharge. Have quiet S jump in after break
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I like the changing colors we get in WIS but know that means snow is on the horizon
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In reply to @classroomtools
Chucktaft
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Gotta go early
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- sorry I have been MIA lately - still love this group! Thanks for making my Thursdays roar!
LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
It can help connect too! What better way to learn more than & less than by counting the boys & girls in our room!
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In reply to @classroomtools
massignmenthelp
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
The Complete Guide to UK Car Driving Theory Test
https://t.co/skWVo4OBdl
#EduAfterHours
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#isedchat
JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
True enough. Kids like to debate!
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In reply to @classroomtools, @teachNcoffee
AssignmentHelpN
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/N8NF3byMeG
#EduAfterHours
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#isedchat
myassignment
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
The Complete Guide to UK Car Driving Theory Test
https://t.co/Z8TN4t4GK0
#EduAfterHours
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#isedchat
scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 From
@CHSSP_SO
https://t.co/fycEyFigrd
and
@procon_org
https://t.co/LNWWJxEXCf
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q4
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
so important disagree with ideas, not people - need to teach them how to do civil discourse
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jmadlin001
Oct 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3 Set clear expectations before discussions.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
love that -- have to listen to others if you are able to do this. and that is so important- can't have convo if not listening
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dmfouts
Oct 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 Have Ss restate position of another S with whom they disagree-require it before speaking.
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I never required Ss to think like me, just to think clearly, argue civilly & respond directly. Ss, Ps, admins always supported that.
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In reply to @Chucktaft
LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4 so far we've mainly used agree/disagree in math & talked about thinking. Would love to use it more when we have the skills!
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book_techjunkie
Oct 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A? Our school has agree/disagree signs and such a quick and simple way for students to show their stance
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
i learned to add undecided- have ss who are und listen to points for a bit then have to chose side and defend decision
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q4
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4 I never used agree/disagree, or T/F either. Too simple. Life is more complex, & kids more nuanced.
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scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Some great historical thinking stems on p. 19
https://t.co/m3MNvROaxq
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In reply to @Braz74
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
I used to write ss name on the board when asking a question to class - telling them - these were the next 3 ss i would call on prep
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dmfouts
Oct 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2 and A3 Have a commercial break half-way through. Give one minute for Ss to recharge. Have quiet S jump in after break
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TalkinSS
Oct 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Do you remember when you joined Twitter? We do!
@TalkinSS
celebrates 1 year of podcasts!
#sschat
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#worldgeochat
#MyTwitterAnniversary
Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Q5
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
np- glad you could stop by-- have a great week
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In reply to @Chucktaft
scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Conversation Skills Poster to use with Ss just starting w/ convos.
https://t.co/90dC190nHi
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Do you feel you'd have a supportive admin who'd back you up? If a parent ever did object...
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In reply to @teachNcoffee, @Chucktaft
classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 A/D forces people to make a binary choice when problems are often more complex. Too much binary thinking creates polarization.
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 - Las Vegas shooter is a Terrorist even though media not calling him one-
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
It is easier, I agree. But I think the easy way has forced us into the polarized society we now seem to be.
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
I had them in my room - strongly agree/ disagree then agree disagree and undecided
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book_techjunkie
Oct 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A? Our school has agree/disagree signs and such a quick and simple way for students to show their stance
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Just thought how you mentioned lockdowns... I'm realizing too how it's important to be honest about why you do things.
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
You need to read Masha Gessen's piece on this from the New Yorker.
https://t.co/Cf9fYJxUHl
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
When trying to tell a room of 5 yr olds to sit quiet, it's easiest to just be honest too (1/2)
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5 - I think this can be amazing convo starter- use things they know to get them talking - then use controversial topics
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Q5
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book_techjunkie
Oct 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5 Having kids take a stance w/ would you rather. Some are saying polarized& yes we are but yet too many who indifferent.
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
We're practicing because if a bad person came we want them to think we are gone is easier then just "be quiet"
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5 Again, I don't like binary choices. Life is much more nuanced. Failure to teach that leads to the polarization we see.
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scottmpetri
Oct 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Here's a great conversation skills list from
@historytechie
Helps students reflect on their contributions.
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing- saw the FBI def- political agenda- makes sense-
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
You need to read Masha Gessen's piece on this from the New Yorker.
https://t.co/Cf9fYJxUHl
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Given the state of things now it's giving me a new perspective on any exercises where students have to answer "true" and "false."
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5 in a sense I use that everyday, but not fit controversial topics. Just would you rather choose to work or miss recess?
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q6
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dmfouts
Oct 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5 I like Socratic Qs on definitions of words--Is the Vegas shooter a 'terrorist'? Compare to other criminals.Gets confusing fast.
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5 in a sense I use that everyday, but not for controversial topics. Just would you rather choose to work now or miss recess?
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Oh I agree it isn't one or the other but there are times when pushing ss to pick side develops skill but yes life not black & white
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
She goes even deeper than that in this interview yesterday on PRI's The World.
https://t.co/A9OxmtNv4L
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I would be careful of what choices you use with this, but I thought it could be interesting structure for some topics
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q6
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I plan to branch out some this year with more primary sources that spark conversation!
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
You'll appreciate Masha Gessen on this too.
https://t.co/A9OxmtNv4L
and
https://t.co/Cf9fYJxUHl
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
get ss thinking about the events differently- and love primary sources to go beyond summary of textbook - form own ideas
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I plan to branch out some this year with more primary sources that spark conversation!
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Reminds me of one of the untouched classrooms at Sandy Hook where they were hiding and a little boy told his teacher he knew karate.
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
think about Columbus's own journal- is he someone we should celebrate?
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teachNcoffee
Oct 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I plan to branch out some this year with more primary sources that spark conversation!
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
could do similar, but only provide 1 option and not an or-- but to get them started the or might help them with forming opinion
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
It's amazing what they come up with, but they know how to react/respond if we are honest with them. Gives it meaning too
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
The interesting thing is, Columbus' journal disappeared 500 years ago, & hasn't been seen since. All we have is de las Casa's notes.
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danklumper
Oct 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Primary source compare/contrast: Trump inauguration speech vs. Kennedy inauguration speech.
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
From the outside, it's easy for me to think: This is all in the news, debated publicly. You're "sneaking in" the world they live in!
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6 would you rather live in Ancient Rome or Greece? Would you rather grow up in America or Russia in the 1900s? would you rather
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Here is the page from de las Casa's notes on the landing.
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Q7
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Great!
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
true- idea of actions towards natives, results, etc. and yes I get different POV at time, but good for ss to discuss -
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jmadlin001
Oct 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Just had this discussion with Ss last week.
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
or reconcile all men created equal yet Jefferson owned slaves, or slavery existed or women couldn't vote. values versus time period
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A7) Breathing a sigh of relief with this one. It would reveal different approaches without forcing them to make judgments.
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Q7
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EduGladiators
Oct 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
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jmadlin001
Oct 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Modeling respect and civility is so important too.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7 pick a topic and let students be leaders- how deal with Reconstruction then compare to Johnson's plan. Let them chose topic
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Q7
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LauraGarlow
Oct 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A7 use this stem a lot w/our writing journals "what if you could have anything you wanted for a pet?" "What if you had a crazy day?"
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6) Missed this one earlier -- sounds good to me. It would help define discrimination compared to perceived unfairness.
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
In all the examples I hope to teach ss ways to discuss civilly- chose position and defend. Doesn't matter topic chosen
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Braz74
- Moderator
Oct 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thanks all for another great conversation- I hope you have some ideas that you can take back to class
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JeremyDBond
Oct 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Kids are more black and white than life is. Guide them slowly.
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classroomtools
Oct 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
It is not just that women couldn't vote.
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Braz74
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Oct 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
yes - examples tonight were somewhat centered on adults more than ss. but hope some topics could find there way into class
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