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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:30 PM EDT

Good evening #RuralEdChat friends. How are you all doing out there in the world?

bivey Sep 19 @ 8:33 PM EDT

I'm doing okay. Tired, I guess. How are you? #RuralEdChat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:33 PM EDT

Hi, Robin and all other #RuralEdChat folks. OK in the world but would feel lots better in bed with a book!

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:34 PM EDT

Evergreen tweet? ;-) #RuralEdChat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:34 PM EDT

You betcha! #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:34 PM EDT

Hi Bill. Same. One of those frenetic days where I tried to be present & wonder how I actually did...Thx for being here for #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:35 PM EDT

Hi Linda!! How are you feeling after your recent rough patch? Glad you are here for #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:37 PM EDT

So would like to talk about teaching history tonight. Inspired by #TheVietnamWar program on @PBS Have any #ruraledchat folks been watching?

LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:37 PM EDT

One rough patch over, another going on. That's life. I'd missed way too much #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:37 PM EDT

Sometimes trying to be present in itself makes an impression. Kids are willing to cut us slack if we treat them like humans. #RuralEdChat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 8:37 PM EDT

Always better once it's #RuralEdChat time :)

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:37 PM EDT

Life does indeed often feel like a series of tricky patches. We're so glad you are back! #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:38 PM EDT

Thanks so much, Matt! We really appreciate you being here tonight for #RuralEdChat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:38 PM EDT

Thanks, Robin. I do miss the conversations. #RuralEdChat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 8:38 PM EDT

I started, I'm part way through part 1. The history nerd side of me loves it #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:39 PM EDT

Exactly. Just like #AndrewBird croons "Just don't let the human factor fail to be a factor...at all" #ruraledchat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:40 PM EDT

I couldn't even stay awake for the first hour Sunday. No way to do 3 hours a night. #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:40 PM EDT

Awesome! Have you heard of In the Past Lane podcast? They featured Ken Burns this week & it's a fantastic convo. Will grab link #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:41 PM EDT

It's really dense and intense, but so worth it. I'm learning a ton and today had the opportunity to talk about it w/my parents. #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:42 PM EDT

I have not, actually. I'm not great about watching TV. I love my work perhaps too much, and breaks tend to be more about music. #RuralEdChat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 8:42 PM EDT

I haven't! Please share link! #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:42 PM EDT

https://t.co/L5l9AocqTR #RuralEdChat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 8:44 PM EDT

I'm watching piece by piece as I have time - online, on my schedule is way easier. https://t.co/HDEa18Pox5 #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:44 PM EDT

So with the focus on teaching history for Q1, share your best experiences in learning or teaching history. #RuralEdChat

LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:44 PM EDT

I was of the Vietnam generation, but went to college and never knew anyone my age who fought there. #RuralEdChat

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ajonesmesd Sep 19 @ 8:44 PM EDT

Going to try to follow along tonight as I coach volleyball. Oh the many hats of rural educators ! #RuralEdChat

cbryantallen Sep 19 @ 8:45 PM EDT

Is there one person we follow to see the questions to respond to? Or just monitor the hashtag? #RuralEdChat

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:46 PM EDT

What I'm appreciating about this series is way Burns & co intentionally sought out diverse viewpoints & perspectives of time. #ruraledchat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:46 PM EDT

I built a conscientious objector portfolio in the mid 1970s, but the draft ended before I had occasion to use it. #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:46 PM EDT

Hi Clayton. Yes, just follow the #ruraledchat hashtag and be sure to tag your contributions with it, too. Happy you are here with us!

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:46 PM EDT

A1 My MACT concentration was Renaissance and Reformation period. Fantastic history prof made stories live. #RuralEdChat

bivey Sep 19 @ 8:46 PM EDT

Monitoring the hashtag #RuralEdChat should work! I think @robinhosemann is moderating tonight.

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urbie Sep 19 @ 8:47 PM EDT

#RuralEdChat Best learning history moment.. summer ‘72 US History Mr McHugh’s Q: Why are Mississippi River ports 75 miles apart? #tlap #hook

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:47 PM EDT

Way to go! Thank you & hope the game goes well for you all! I think this is a 1st for our #ruraledchat Tell the team we're rooting for them!

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:48 PM EDT

That's one of the keys to doing history right - not just taking a "winner gets to write history" perspective of privilege. #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:48 PM EDT

Hi Urbie! Thanks for sharing that. What made the learning come alive for you? #RuralEdChat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 8:49 PM EDT

A1) In 7th grade, in our Native American unit, our teacher had a tribe member and reenacter come in full regalia to class #RuralEdChat

LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:49 PM EDT

A1 (cont) Usually need MBA or MS in computers to learn systems analysis. I learned it in Renaissance history. #RuralEdChat

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:49 PM EDT

Isn't that such a gift? When a teacher illuminates through story? I think that's why the @PBS series is so powerful. #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:50 PM EDT

I'm in a girls school, working primarily with middle schoolers, and I love this picture so much. Good luck!!! #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:50 PM EDT

@LindaAragoni and @try_rebooting : Have you two connected? #RuralEdChat

LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:49 PM EDT

A1 (cont) Usually need MBA or MS in computers to learn systems analysis. I learned it in Renaissance history. #RuralEdChat

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:52 PM EDT

A1 In college we did a birth & death date census study in Graceland Cemetery in Chicago. Powerful on so many levels. #RuralEdChat

LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:52 PM EDT

Dr. Murphy did it without pictures, just by word choices. #RuralEdChat

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urbie Sep 19 @ 8:52 PM EDT

#ruraledchat given search tech of the day it took a lot of mechanical effort to find it. In time I moved on, Q unanswered. #mythic

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SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 8:53 PM EDT

Late to the party, but glad to join in. :) #RuralEdChat

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:53 PM EDT

Q2 In what ways has your school tackled local history topics and inquiry? #RuralEdChat

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:53 PM EDT

We never mind when folks drop in! Happy to have you back for #ruraledchat any time! :)

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GruntledChalkie Sep 19 @ 8:54 PM EDT

Gday #ruraledchat Carl from Australia

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:54 PM EDT

And how many of those Qs DO remain unanswered in history...sometimes the process of investigating reveals other directions? #RuralEdChat

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GruntledChalkie Sep 19 @ 8:55 PM EDT

A2) we compare old photos and try and find the location today that the photo was taken from #ruraledchat

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:55 PM EDT

Carl! Hi! How is the herd? #ruraledchat Met a person from Australia who settled in our town the other day while we were playing tennis!

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:55 PM EDT

A1 My best history experience was in France with M. Gutman, a socialist perspective of post-1789 French history. #RuralEdChat

GruntledChalkie Sep 19 @ 8:56 PM EDT

We are everywhere. Have a baby alpaca due any day #ruraledchat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:56 PM EDT

A2 My kids have actually never chosen a local history Focus Question in 13 years of student-designed units. Hmmm. #RuralEdChat

LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 8:56 PM EDT

I've not met @try_rebooting but will add to my follow list. #RuralEdChat

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SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 8:56 PM EDT

A2) My 200 level students are writing cult.autobios, after looking at cult rep of Appalachia. Not systemic. #RuralEdChat

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:56 PM EDT

That sounds intense and amazing. Biggest takeaway(s)? #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:57 PM EDT

Photos or it will not have happened! :-) #RuralEdChat

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SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 8:57 PM EDT

#RuralEdChat Glad to be back. Didn't set a reminder! :)

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GruntledChalkie Sep 19 @ 8:57 PM EDT

Shall be posted as soon as I find the little bugger #ruraledchat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:58 PM EDT

Thought comment re: learning systems analysis thru history might b interesting since he teaches computer sci! :) #ruraledchat connections

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:58 PM EDT

The elites are really skilled at keeping power but the masses occasionally came close to acquiring and retaining power. #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 8:59 PM EDT

Also, a sense that European History is more interconnected than U.S. History to elsewhere, at least the way I'd learned it. #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:59 PM EDT

Always love seeing those! They are the only alpacas in my feed. :) #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 8:59 PM EDT

The themes just continue to show up across time and space, don't they? #RuralEdChat

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GruntledChalkie Sep 19 @ 8:59 PM EDT

What. Why is no one else posting their baby alpacas #ruraledchat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Wow. Can you say more? How do they structure it? #ruraledchat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT

I'm all for anything cross-curricular! @LindaAragoni, I'd love to hear about some of the projects you did! #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Seems that way! Makes a social justice approach to learning both timeless and imperative. #RuralEdChat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

I've been doing a bit of reading about WWI for my novel blog. I certainly see America disconnected. No history sense #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Talking history edu tonight and this thread resonates. #RuralEdChat

bivey Sep 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Seems that way! Makes a social justice approach to learning both timeless and imperative. #RuralEdChat
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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

To what do we attribute this? Multiple factors, I know but what does #ruraledchat think?

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Projects hadn't been invented when I did my MACT! We read long books of tiny print #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

So @LindaAragoni inspired Q3: What factors contribute to a lack of historical knowledge or engagement in learners in your exp? #ruraledchat

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Interesting. Do you think deep reads impacted historical knowledge and framework-building? #RuralEdChat

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SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

A3) Lack of connection to topic? I was interested in history b/c of connectedness through people/places. #RuralEdChat

LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Yes, but the Renaissance itself was a small set of interlocking systems #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Historically, I think a combination of physical isolation and exceptionalism - hard to travel far, plus sense of why bother? #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

I meant physical proximity made it easier for France to be aware of 1800s events in neighbouring countries than it was for us. #RuralEdChat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

I don't think people like to learn if it (1) has big words (2) has funny not-from-here names (3) isn't exciting #RuralEdChat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

I feel like much of my history edu was just "this happened, later, this happened", but the "later" was a weak connection #RuralEdChat

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cbryantallen Sep 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A3: Social Studies is not a tested subject at the elementary school level so it isn't taught with fidelity. #ruraledchat

bivey Sep 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A3 When kids see how history shapes and influences their world today, they engage easily. But absent that connection... #RuralEdChat

GruntledChalkie Sep 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A3. Lack of documentation and recording of failures. #ruraledchat

bivey Sep 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Oh, yeah. My 9th grade History teacher was all, "Here. Learn this list of events and dates." Ugh. #RuralEdChat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Historically, I'm not sure. . Novelists of the 20s, 30s, read newspapers, saw the future in Europe. #ruraledchat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Ah, but isn't that also an opportunity? I'm in an independent school, so no state testing, and my kids study anything we want! #RuralEdChat

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SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

#RuralEdChat Exactly!

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Hmm. So what may have cultivated that attitude in them while others just didn't care? #RuralEdChat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

I think we barely connected Civil War with Reconstruction! What we needed was US Imperialism -> post WW2 tensions #RuralEdChat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Plus, hey, to to the topic of the @PBS special, that would bring us to the Vietnam War (which my Ts were too afraid to touch) #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

So to follow up Q4 How do we help students engage as historians in their learning? What works? #ruraledchat

cbryantallen Sep 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Wish that was the case here. It just means between reading and writing there is barely any time to "fit it in." #ruraledchat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

That's how I remember HS. Renaissance power was in families who ran Europe...so connected #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

totally. Chronologically-taught courses meant we never "made it" to much of later 20th c Yikes!! #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

May I ask for what reasons they were afraid? #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Ah. :-( #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

That's so tough. Have seen schools under this pressure to focus ELA on history & sci topics/themes to incorporate. #RuralEdChat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

I still remember the phrase, "and looks, it's the Habsburgs again!" #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Dave Barry had a great piece about that - spending ages on colonies, doing 20th c. in about a day and never getting past 1950. #RuralEdChat

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cbryantallen Sep 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

That's us! I feel like you lose out on the experience of history when you do that. Leaves middle school with a lot to cover. #ruraledchat

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try_rebooting Sep 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

It's hard to talk about the U.S.'s failures in places with lots of veterans, and with people who lived through the divisiveness #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

My dear AP Hist edu had to say to us "OK kids, you're going to need to do some fast reading to prep for exam. 1890s-1960s. GO!" #ruraledchat

bivey Sep 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Dave Barry had a great piece about that - spending ages on colonies, doing 20th c. in about a day and never getting past 1950. #RuralEdChat
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SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

History is context-nothing happens in a vacuum-so I work to help Ss find value in content as entry point. #RuralEdChat

bivey Sep 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

#RuralEdChat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

You could study any period of history in depth and learn the same lessons, #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Good point! #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

This right here. Theme-focused vs time-focused! #RuralEdChat

LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

You could study any period of history in depth and learn the same lessons, #RuralEdChat
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SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Plus history class seemed like Trivial Pursuit--no concepts, just dates to fill in on a wksheet. #RuralEdChat

robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

argh! and timelines aren't always engaging. #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT

That makes sense. There's got to be an entry point, though, somehow, especially as divisiveness is such an issue these days. #RuralEdChat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Reading history of WWI and novels of the era. Find novels do better job of explaining what happened to people #RuralEdChat

SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Making a physical timeline when studying all subjects helped when I taught ele Ss. even Ss bdays went up! #RuralEdChat

LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT

I love making timelines. #RuralEdChat

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cbryantallen Sep 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT

I think the advancements in virtual reality are incredible, allowing students to experience history rather than just read it. #ruraledchat

SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT

#RuralEdChat It helped Ss understand Archimedes and Abe Lincoln weren't buds. ;)

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Absolutely. That's one reason I love the integrated ELA/Social Studies approach of my Humanities 7 course. #RuralEdChat

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bivey Sep 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Wait. What? ;-) #RuralEdChat

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Gold star for you. You made me laugh out loud. #RuralEdChat

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SJ_Grubb Sep 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

#RuralEdChat Part of it was vanity. They were surprised I grew up with TV!

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LindaAragoni Sep 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

That comment gives me an idea for a writing prompt about VR and history. Thank you. #RuralEdChat

bivey Sep 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT

??? ;-) #RuralEdChat

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robinhosemann - Moderator Sep 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT

You all have been fabulous to chat with tonight. Thank you for your fantastic perspectives on history edu tonight for #RuralEdChat