#saskedchat Archive
#saskedchat is a great way for Saskatchewan educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Thursday August 18, 2016
10:00 PM EDT
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Did I miss it??? Just got to Winnipeg for an air cadet reunion.
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Welcome to Introduce yourself, tell us what you do and share something great you did this summer. https://t.co/YK5uJlKLmg
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Just in time Shelly. Good to have you join us.
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Hey , Brooke from Craik. Starting my internship in a few weeks
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Good evening on this the last full week of vacation. I've a 4th grade class this fall in .
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My name is Kara. Excited to start my first year as an elem teacher after convocating this spring. I went on an Alaskan cruise!
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Hello everyone! Michelle, principal from Estevan guest moderating tonight. Please remind me if I forget to post the quesitons.
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Shelly Reed. VP & grade 7 teacher at George Lee in Regina. I visited for the first time this summer!
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Well, I suppose the best thing I did this summer was visit with my mom in Kelowna, BC. Otherwise, I simply enjoyed the summer.
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Welcome Brooke! Good luck with your internship. What grade?
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Hey Alan! Good to have you here tonight.
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from the sounds of it I am doing a variety of subjects K-12. So we will see how it goes
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That sounds awesome! What grade are you going to be teaching?
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Ferrah from Regina. VP & middle yrs math/sci teacher. Best thing? Lots of swimming, camping & canoeing!
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I'm an edtech coach based in Carlyle & this summer I visited my grandkids for a week, helped shingle a roof, & visited Ma in YYC
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Just go with it and learn all you can. That is exciting!
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I watched my son and nephew play a lot of ball this summer and had fun doing it.
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Hi all -Dawn- Carlton HS in PA- we went to 9 Jays games ❤️
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Banff is beautiful! Did you love it?
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Good evening my friend! Good summer?
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Melissa from Green Lake. I teach high school pilot program & this summer I volunteered at a Girl Guide camp with 3000ish girls
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David, elementary numeracy leader from PEI
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Welcome Ferrah! Glad you could join us tonight. I did some camping as well.
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Welcome Dawn! I am jealous! 9 games?!?
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I am Jessica and I teach a grade 2/3 split. I just returned from a two week vacation in California https://t.co/g3XeWLI8KO
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And where are and tonight for
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Welcome Mel! I bet camp kept you hopping! Did you get some rest as well?
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yep 9 - so fun! And a Kevin Pillar bobblehead doll!
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Welcome David! Good to have you join us!
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where in California were you vacationing
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San Diego and Los Angeles
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thanks! Not sure how long I can participate, but looking forward to the conversation
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Welcome Jessica! That sounds like a fun way to spend a couple of summer weeks.
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Love it Jamie! Good to have you join us!
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Post camp, I sure did get some rest... not a lot at camp though.
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A1: A student led classroom shares the power with Ts and Ss. Students questions and inquiry are key.
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A1 Where students have choice and autonomy. Work has purpose. They influence their world as their world influences them.
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In Pre-K, student-led has a lot to do with our emergent curriculum: we create learning experiences as students show interest
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A1: In a student-lead classroom, Ss are empowered, have choice and autonomy. Responsibility for class climate is shared w/S.
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A1. A classroom that gives that students to put input into the learning
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I like the idea of shared power and responsibility. Everyone working together.
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A1: Students are encouraged to find divergent pathways for their learning and are empowered to help one another find success.
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Well said! I have been reading about good questions that allow them to connect. https://t.co/zNyjTLFQK9
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A1 Where students have choice and autonomy. Work has purpose. They influence their world as their world influences them.
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A2: I'll take "Something I did poorly for 500 Alec" I was OK guiding discuss & getting diffr Ss, but I planned teacher-centricly
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I think inquiry is the aspect of this I'm most comfortable with.
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A1 - I think of being like a tour guide... I have the ultimate goal in mind, but it is the students who influence the path.
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I love the freedom that allows in the classroom to really focus on what they want to learn.
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I look back and think ???? as well. Oh well, we can only move forward from here.
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A1: Students understand and value the rights AND responsibilities of being part of the class and live them.
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I like that idea. https://t.co/h3i2Cct4kD
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A1 - I think of being like a tour guide... I have the ultimate goal in mind, but it is the students who influence the path.
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A1: A student led classroom is one where Ss decide how to show their learning and their pace https://t.co/GUR8AHw9LN
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A2: The benefits for teachers include learning what engages our students and sharing responsibility of learning.
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A2 I think students can grow in so many ways when allowed to take responsibility for their learning.Teachers can step back a bit
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It's a challenge to develop student's skills in self directed learning. Usually we present pick a paths for them to choose from
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A2: Ss get to engage in deep, meaningful learning that is relevant to their lives and interests (and take responsibility for it!)
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A2: Huge benefit for students.Ss engage when ownership is supported. Engagement=interest & enthusiasm. https://t.co/7SJy4a5aB0
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is now trending in Canada, ranking 27
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A2 Students need to feel like they have control over their learning. Otherwise, it's just "stuff" that they'll forget easily
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A2: Benefit for teachers in student-lead classrooms? T doesn't need to have all the ideas!
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a2: Students learn better when they want to learn, when they feel valued. Student led classrooms accomplish this
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A2 Teachers benefit from less direct teaching/lesson planning. Act more as facilitator.
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It is difficult for some students and can be hard work especially at first.
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Students develop leadership skills. You can read about leadership. Not the same as developing the skills!!
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A2: (For realsies this time) Autonomy. Authentic learning. Collaborative.
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A2: while teachers have the experience to direct learning. Young people are bright, their problem solving learning expands all.
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Yes! It is always my challenge. Especially when they don't have the language to express themselves.
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I like that the work is put back on the student and not all on the teacher.
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A2: Found that creating a student-lead classroom can result in the students actually working harder than the teacher must.
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Yes! I agree. Leadership in action. It can be hard work but the benefits can be great.
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Helps with retention and with future connections as well.
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there are certainly times when my work seems easier because students are doing more of their own problem solving.
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Yes! https://t.co/epT9FgNQpQ
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A2: Found that creating a student-lead classroom can result in the students actually working harder than the teacher must.
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Q3 coming right up. Keep the conversation rolling.
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Yes! It is noticeable for certain. Creates more time to observe, sit back & be amazed.
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Welcome Kelly! So glad you could join us. Sounds like a fantastic trip.
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Hey, I was creeping on your bio in Twitter, & thought you might like this, based on it. Q&A https://t.co/hoV6EGJFkM
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I would say that involving 4th grade students in assessment is the most difficult problem for me.
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A3: Ideally? A teacher who says, "I don't have my year-plan yet; my Ss and I need to write it."
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A3: Ss able to interrupt the class without permission, Ss working collaboratively, teacher as facilitator (out of the way).
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Ha, ha! If only it were that simple.
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love this idea, but the thought stresses me out. Maybe thats because I'm still new
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Hey Paul! Thank for jumping in. I think I can be too quick to jump in and want to solve their problems for them.
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A2: Ss r given opportunity to "think" for themselves b4 consulting teacher. Teacher is able to maximize instruction/intervention
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A3 - Honestly, I don't know. I KNOW what it should look like, but don't always know how to get there. https://t.co/sm7TmpEqPA
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A3 Great questions based around outcomes. Technology for research. Freedom to stray based on interested and current events.
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A3: Ss are talking, collaborating, debating, questioning. Teacher is in the background.
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It's okay, 15 years teaching HS and it scares me! Maybe someday when I'm big....
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I feel ready to add on to what I did last year. It takes time.
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Student to student engagement; leadership rubrics, independent decision making by students.
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I'm reaching my best before date, and the challenge of restructuring learning stresses me out too.
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A3 - Key Elements - Student choice & voice, clear expectations, Ss & Ts input & direction - as in learning outcomes.
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That is true! I think we need to keep adding things and work on building on it.
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A3 - I struggle with balancing curriculum and needing to teach vocab (2nd language) so students can lead us in FSL.
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Hey Michelle! Definitely something we all need to work on! Fortunately, we don't have to be perfect! :) https://t.co/soBwAS5eIN
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Hey Paul! Thank for jumping in. I think I can be too quick to jump in and want to solve their problems for them.
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A3: Quickest way 2 start w/student-lead classroom for me was giving responsibility for room. Seating, decorating, cleaning.
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Okay, that is sweet. Consider it stolen!
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a3. Big ideas are the focus, conversation, and ideas are vocalized. ALL students have input
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A3 I think it involved good questions and lots of choice.
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A3: Students involved in deciding how they want to showcase their learning and how they will be assessed; peer and self eval.
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Have you ever seen the students as facilitators?? Sweet!!
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Great advice. https://t.co/kotBDfwy9Q
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A3: Quickest way 2 start w/student-lead classroom for me was giving responsibility for room. Seating, decorating, cleaning.
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A3: Students embrace questions. Big questions lead to more questions. Brainstorming & sharing ideas is ongoing.
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students sharing their projects in novel ways was a good example of this.
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. when Ss are co-owners of space - they don’t see it as interruption but as learning -
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A3: Something as small as having open seating, creating constant seat choice for the Ss huge in setting the tone of classroom.
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A3: The key elements to me is assuring that all students have a role and a chance at leadership opportunities.
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A3: Finally, every student has the opportunity to lead and share.
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I'm also working against my natural inclination for being a planner!
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A4: Optics. Some people might not, at first, think that there was "learning" going on.
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easier to have open seating without the traditional elementary desks.
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A3 - Through Inquiry/PBL Ss become facilitators in the classroom aides in the learning process
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Luckily, I suck at planning. :)
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A4: Requires an overhaul in mindset. Counters what most "think" teaching looks & sounds like. https://t.co/0EGCwA9T8P
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A3: Ss collaborating, taking ownership of their learning! Flexible seating, and S choice & voice!
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. in classrooms, interruptions are seen as inhibiting learning but they actually encourage creativity -
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I think the planning still needs to be there, but also the boundaries need to be flexible and plans can change.
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A4:/2 Open door policy. Let people see what works and why.
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Lucky that my desks had removable drawers that I took away. Also gradually removed desks & adopted square tables.
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. thus, when Ss facilitate, interruptions aren’t seen as disruptions but as adding to the learning process
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Thought you might. Classic.
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A4 I have struggled with setting them up with good questions and getting them where they need to be
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A4 - Many Ts can be reluctant to give Ss power: The more power you give Ss, the more they respect you & give you power back!
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A4: Creating a student-lead classroom can be uncomfortable for Ts when used to having the power.
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A4 How to mark? (why do we have 2?)create generic &loose co-constructed criteria for projects for accountability on all sides.
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. so important - to allow all Ss the opportunity to lead in a variety of ways & to offer multiple leading options
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I absolutely found this to be true. Ss reciprocate. This is why relationships are so key. https://t.co/Dpu5dhMM36
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A4 - Many Ts can be reluctant to give Ss power: The more power you give Ss, the more they respect you & give you power back!
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A4: Just how overwhelming it can seem; it requires a lot of change and risk taking/uncertainty. Pt 2: Do a little at a time.
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I've learned to let go some. I used to plan to the point of scripting. I was so nervous I would miss something!
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A4 - It requires Ts to teach differently & Ss to learn differently. (It's still a teacher-led classroom w/lecture & worksheets.)
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Tricky. Using generic rubrics based on process/demonstrating knowledge less than specifics can help. Tough one.
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. mindset change is to not see it as power shift but as a sharing of learning space. Ss have power already
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Tried true inquiry this year. Sts brainstormed qs about space but then followed new learning trails as they discovered. Amazing!
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. absolutely - we’re in different spots. What works for me will not work for you but we can work together to grow
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A4: Convincing others that learning is taking place and organized chaos can spur bigger and better things!
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A4: Was challenged to move away from talking too much to let Ss talk. Those who know me, know how hard this would be for me!
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A4: An obstacle is reluctant students. Overcoming them through differentiation would be a solution.
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Q5 What are some ways you are going to allow your students to lead in the classroom this year? https://t.co/Jn7bary1Du
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It's always relationships, isn't it?
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. I’ve found showing others works wonders - the evidence is in the work of the Ss - like portfolios for this
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A5: Find this harder to plan for this year as I don't know my Ss. In previous years, Playing it by ear! https://t.co/UagkbZKFiK
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Q5 What are some ways you are going to allow your students to lead in the classroom this year? https://t.co/Jn7bary1Du
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. relationships, relationships, relationships. All that happens is based on these three.
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A5 I am going to try to do a better job of using mini lessons to build the skills they need to allow me to step back.
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as a substitute it’s harder bc you don’t know the Ss & what they are like plus you have the Ts plans to cover.
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A4 Even though I don't my own classroom. I often see that students sometimes have trouble with time management in primary grades
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Some have learned how to "play the school game" & just want to be told what to do. Gradual "unlearning" is needed.
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Oooohhhh. Need this in EVERY environment!
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A5: inquiry, library periods, my stations, all contribute.
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- we can’t “make” Ss do anything but we can share experiences with them & help them with their learning experiences.
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A5: I'm handing out surveys to my Ss to find out the things they want to learn and the ways in which they want to learn
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absolutely! We host a TIGER talk and expo night to showcase their works!
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A5: So many student ideas come out through both teacher and student led discussion time. Even through recess conversations!
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well I'm out putting holes in paper with extreme precision. Not sure about the other one.
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A5 I have also planned lots of jigsaws and mini inquiries: students learn about a topic that interests them and teach the class
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A5: Am used to having my own class & room so not sure how this will look when I only teach a couple subjects. Plan w/other Ts.
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. have Ss time & give you cues to indicate how much time - help with time management
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Good point! It is up to the teacher to guide this along. https://t.co/atZSMOJqAu
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A4 Even though I don't my own classroom. I often see that students sometimes have trouble with time management in primary grades
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A5: I have my Ss journal their passions, and write down things they wonder about or want to know.
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Photocopier or gun range? :)
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Only painful for those waiting for me to stop so they can get a word in!
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A5 - My students can choose where to sit, what to learn about during Passion Time, how to share their learning, etc.
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. the students in the class - “they” being the students in the learning experience.
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I build choice into my Daily 5. Going to try flexible seating and adding choice into guided math. https://t.co/3B9HAZW4Zo
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Q5 What are some ways you are going to allow your students to lead in the classroom this year? https://t.co/Jn7bary1Du
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It will take some adjustment but you will settle in.
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I love this! I already don't talk long, but love giving the Ss a chance to help manage time.
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. that’s where I like portfolios & making contact with parents throughout the year - Pts know what is happening
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Me too! Working on creating mini lessons at end of the period w/ lots of exploration, collaborative time 1st.
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Make sure you check out Learn Like a Pirate by Full of great suggestions.
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"Wast" some days the first week getting to know them. Will pay dividends.
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Also, look at your practice and realize all the ways that you are already honouring Ss. You are doing more than you know!
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Spending time with some fun, problem solving games. Hoping to be an eye opener.
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