#ASEchat Archive
The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.
Monday January 23, 2017
3:00 PM EST
participatechat
Jan 23 @ 3:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
#ASEchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/mKOeusFf0N
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:00 PM EST
#ASEchat
about to start looking at STEAM - How do we integrate Art into STEM ?
edubabbIe
Jan 23 @ 3:00 PM EST
Estimating the Size of cohorta % of total possible ties in a country visit.
#asechat
jesswade
Jan 23 @ 3:03 PM EST
>>
#ASEChat
In reply to @PodcastEdtech, @Glisser, @Sophie_Deen, @jen_gratton, @MikePiddock, @Bett_show, @Miss_Wilsey, @WomenEd, @Naace, @Mango_Marketing
jesswade
Jan 23 @ 3:04 PM EST
We'll be exploring this in the
@PodcastEdtech
at
#Bett2017
- who is coming?
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @PodcastEdtech
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:04 PM EST
#asechat
- is anyone joining me ?
MrChurchTweets
Jan 23 @ 3:08 PM EST
Just finished dinner - ready to join in with
#ASEchat
#STEAM
in
#primary
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:09 PM EST
This is on on Thursday evening hosted by
@ST3AMCo
#asechat
In reply to @ST3AMCo
ST3AMCo
Jan 23 @ 2:08 PM EST
Do RT and join us at this this Thurs eve:
https://t.co/pATmbh64XL
In reply to @theASE, @AdFenton, @natkin, @rich_hall, @CultureLearning, @ace_national
AssignmentHelpN
Jan 23 @ 3:10 PM EST
#asechat
10 Simple Ways to Use Pinterest For Classroom Teaching
https://t.co/0i2sbvZqo7
massignmenthelp
Jan 23 @ 3:10 PM EST
#asechat
Should the toughest kids be assigned to the best teachers?
https://t.co/3NhTh5TF87
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:12 PM EST
#asechat
I have worked with the art department on creating em spectrum pieces - they were brilliant- any other x curriculum ideas?
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:13 PM EST
depends on why & what you're trying to do - could start by running a STEAM club?
https://t.co/yD3Xr9s1Gm
#asechat
In reply to @natkin
DrDav
Jan 23 @ 3:15 PM EST
I'm currently running a project called 'Imagining the Sun' which pairs solar physicist with visual artist and poet and schools.
#ASEChat
Newmanphysics
Jan 23 @ 3:16 PM EST
#asechat
art with different layers of sellotape then place in between polarising filters. and rotate.
https://t.co/QeCjzjy1z2
In reply to @natkin
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:16 PM EST
or try a cross-disciplinary project e.g. Our art of physics project to help the children understand what physics is about
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:17 PM EST
#ASEchat
what will you be looking at ?
In reply to @jesswade, @PodcastEdtech
Newmanphysics
Jan 23 @ 3:17 PM EST
#asechat
Nasa artist false colour images that are in non visual parts of the EM spectrum.
In reply to @natkin
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:18 PM EST
#asechat
great ide can also use rock thin sections re geology- beautiful under x poloarisers
In reply to @Newmanphysics, @YouTube
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:19 PM EST
#asechat
empiremagazine
Jan 23 @ 3:00 PM EST
Benedict Cumberbatch's Thomas Edison has an electrifying agenda in a first look at The Current War:
https://t.co/r5pg0JUjaG
Newmanphysics
Jan 23 @ 3:19 PM EST
#asechat
always fancied doing this with a rotating sheet and polarising glasses for all. Better one here
https://t.co/262Mus7Tm1
In reply to @natkin
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:19 PM EST
@natkin
Here's another example of
#STEAM
- incl discussion of why there were quite a few female botanical artists but not botanists
#ASEChat
Lab_13Gillespie
Oct 11 @ 8:00 AM EDT
All set for Y6 lesson on Greenfingered Victorians - learning about botanists, Botanical artists, herbalists & language of flowers
#PriSci
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:19 PM EST
#asechat
do you have any links or info on this?
In reply to @HelpfulScience
jesswade
Jan 23 @ 3:20 PM EST
Renaissance artisans = scientists or artists?
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @PodcastEdtech
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:20 PM EST
@natkin
and here's another example with Y4
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin
Lab_13Gillespie
Oct 4 @ 12:08 PM EDT
Today's
#STEAM
club challenge: create art that represents science. "I made a kite because kites make me happy and science makes me happy"
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:21 PM EST
#asechat
q1 - what is the point of STEAM ?
SteveTeachPhys
Jan 23 @ 3:19 PM EST
perhaps I'm not alone in not being sure about the rational of STEAM
In reply to @natkin
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:21 PM EST
@natkin
another angle is to consider how artists might use science to help them in their work
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin
Lab_13Gillespie
Sep 27 @ 8:46 AM EDT
Our new committee members Naomi & Danny have written their first blog post! Featuring one of
@okgo
's music videos:
https://t.co/9qiESEnmiK
gregtheseal
Jan 23 @ 3:24 PM EST
#ASEChat
@DrLizzieBurns
runs great STEAM projects in schools supported by royal college of pathologists
In reply to @DrLizzieBurns
jesswade
Jan 23 @ 3:25 PM EST
making sure we promote the creative side of science: designing experiments, working out equations + writing academic papers
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin
jesswade
Jan 23 @ 3:25 PM EST
(yes)
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin
Newmanphysics
Jan 23 @ 3:26 PM EST
I was thinking about anatomical sketching
#asechat
In reply to @gregtheseal, @DrLizzieBurns
m_windridge
Jan 23 @ 3:26 PM EST
@natkin
#asechat
what's odd is that sci&art are so intrinsically linked yet we need to point it out. Invention=sci+art. Architecture. Nature
In reply to @natkin
gregtheseal
Jan 23 @ 3:27 PM EST
we looked at cells ( drawn on cork) and giant DNA
#ASEChat
In reply to @Newmanphysics, @DrLizzieBurns
mrsjmclark
Jan 23 @ 3:28 PM EST
we are running a science photography competition. I also have a fab anatomy colouring book which is great for some topics!
#ASEchat
In reply to @natkin
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:28 PM EST
please do !
#ASEchat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
jesswade
Jan 23 @ 3:28 PM EST
often same with university science- savvy students don't even need to do the experiment!
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:29 PM EST
@natkin
to understand the practices of different disciplines, how they're similar & different, what each can learn from t'other
#ASEchat
In reply to @natkin
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:29 PM EST
#ASEchat
how many schools promote both ? I was pushed into science
m_windridge
Jan 23 @ 3:26 PM EST
@natkin
#asechat
what's odd is that sci&art are so intrinsically linked yet we need to point it out. Invention=sci+art. Architecture. Nature
In reply to @natkin
Newmanphysics
Jan 23 @ 3:29 PM EST
#asechat
Pigments and paint respond differently to infrared on an old Β£5 pound note. more on
https://t.co/je8B40uIIJ
@TakeOnPhysics
In reply to @natkin, @TakeOnPhysics
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:30 PM EST
also for chn to understand that they can love science AND also love art and for that to be OK!!
#sciencecapital
#ASEchat
In reply to @natkin
doc_kristy
Jan 23 @ 3:31 PM EST
still working on developing a 'laboratories in literature' unit with our drama dept
@drama_bsbd
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @drama_bsbd
edubabbIe
Jan 23 @ 3:31 PM EST
In biology, people's knowledge of both parents and their efficient development.
#asechat
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:31 PM EST
and to get chn who see themselves as "arty" / creative to develop a science identity - and vice versa
#sciencecapital
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:31 PM EST
#ASEchat
I think our curriculum doesn't promote the idea that science or maths is creative
In reply to @SteveTeachPhys, @jesswade
SteveTeachPhys
Jan 23 @ 3:31 PM EST
The point of STEAM?
#ASEchat
STEAMedUK
Jan 23 @ 3:29 PM EST
@SteveTeachPhys
To increase engagement with the STEM subjects and nurture the creative spark needed to develop new STEM research.
In reply to @natkin, @SteveTeachPhys
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:33 PM EST
#ASEchat
let us know how it goes please
doc_kristy
Jan 23 @ 3:31 PM EST
still working on developing a 'laboratories in literature' unit with our drama dept
@drama_bsbd
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @drama_bsbd
jesswade
Jan 23 @ 3:33 PM EST
my American neighbours studied "physics for poets" at
@UChicago
:
https://t.co/9J2PIsKnzA
#ASEChat
In reply to @doc_kristy, @natkin, @drama_bsbd, @UChicago
ZoeAndrewsAST
Jan 23 @ 3:34 PM EST
Vacancies for English and Chemistry from Sept, GCSE and A-level
https://t.co/7GazY90pZc
#ukedchat
#ASEchat
#SLTchat
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:35 PM EST
#ASEchat
many students assume that scientists know everything and there isn't anything left to discover.
SteveTeachPhys
Jan 23 @ 3:35 PM EST
that's true, but isn't doing some science related art a rather superficial cure, what am I missing?
#ASEchat
In reply to @natkin, @jesswade
jesswade
Jan 23 @ 3:36 PM EST
>>
@MarcusduSautoy
would have something to say about this- is the calculator his favourite instrument ?
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @natkin, @MarcusduSautoy
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:36 PM EST
this is why we're piloting a collaboration between schools &
@SellaTheChemist
's chem undergrads - real research!
#ASEChat
In reply to @jesswade, @natkin, @SellaTheChemist
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:37 PM EST
#ASEchat
is the lack of students choosing STEM due to the perception that it isn't creative
@jesswade
In reply to @jesswade
fiddleBrain
Jan 23 @ 3:38 PM EST
.Def,
#STEAM
engagement vital to challenge the need to be one thing & provide positive complex role models of arts/science careers
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @natkin
CazGerrard
Jan 23 @ 3:41 PM EST
Evening Neil
#ASEchat
Been battling with organic chemistry for tomorrow - what have I missed?
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:42 PM EST
#ASEchat
I ask students to think of a scientist then keep hand up if male /old/white/crazy hair - terrible stereotypes in their minds
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:39 PM EST
part of problem is perception of what a "sciencey" person is - ppl don't expect scientists = creative cf
@ASPIRES2science
In reply to @natkin, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science
mrsjmclark
Jan 23 @ 3:42 PM EST
would using modelling activities count e.g cells? And using storyboards to explain practical procedures or key processes?
#ASEchat
In reply to @natkin
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:44 PM EST
fair point - this is worth a look, interesting across STEM disciplines
https://t.co/qCYumqsrRA
#ASEChat
In reply to @jesswade, @natkin, @IOPDiversity
SteveTeachPhys
Jan 23 @ 3:44 PM EST
can you involve the art department without getting into a punch up about which are the primary colors!
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:45 PM EST
@jesswade
@ASPIRES2science
the chn in my school don't think that anymore βΊοΈ
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science
EggucationDebs
Jan 23 @ 3:45 PM EST
#ASEChat
our
#schoolshatching
has a huge
#STEAM
focus especially with
#eggucation
#art
&
#literacy
competitions π£
https://t.co/k6ULHacMdY
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:45 PM EST
#ASEchat
I think it all counts but we really need an integrated approach- high stakes testing doesn't help this
mrsjmclark
Jan 23 @ 3:42 PM EST
would using modelling activities count e.g cells? And using storyboards to explain practical procedures or key processes?
#ASEchat
In reply to @natkin
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:45 PM EST
#ASEchat
haha No!
In reply to @SteveTeachPhys
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:46 PM EST
@natkin
@jesswade
e.g. This is what children wrote in our lunchtime Ingenious Inventors club today
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @jesswade
Lab_13Gillespie
Jan 23 @ 8:46 AM EST
"What is engineering" & "what do engineers do?" Here's what our Y5s & Y6s in Ingenious Inventors club think after meeting some engineers:
mrsjmclark
Jan 23 @ 3:48 PM EST
yes true,would love to add more creative tasks but time so limited with spec they sometimes have to be forfeited for PPQs
#ASEchat
In reply to @natkin
SteveTeachPhys
Jan 23 @ 3:48 PM EST
now that is an interesting idea
#asechat
In reply to @natkin
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:50 PM EST
AARGH sorry got waylaid by a phone call and nearly missed all of
#asechat
whats going on?
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:51 PM EST
I've missed
#asechat
cos I kept falling asleep.
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:52 PM EST
this is my attempt to explain how we as teachers can change perceptions
https://t.co/BxhOTY1SWr
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:52 PM EST
I think you just need to look at
@HelpfulScience
es Picture ;)
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:47 PM EST
how did you change their perceptions?
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:52 PM EST
A more sensible reply! thanks Carole
#asechat
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:52 PM EST
this is my attempt to explain how we as teachers can change perceptions
https://t.co/BxhOTY1SWr
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science
jesswade
Jan 23 @ 3:53 PM EST
irony is you're more likely to get an A/A* in computing/ physics than fine art...
https://t.co/83BDxiLG9K
#ASEChat
In reply to @DrDav, @natkin
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:53 PM EST
that's where school culture is so crucial - growth mindset embedded not just surface
#ASEChat
In reply to @STEAMedUK, @natkin, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:57 PM EST
The
@MarcusduSautoy
lecture
@theASE
conference made it quite clear about the links between Art/ Maths/ science
#fascinating
#ASEchat
In reply to @MarcusduSautoy, @theASE
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:57 PM EST
@STEAMedUK
@jesswade
@ASPIRES2science
"removing" stereotypes complex - first step I think to make sure chn understand this:
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @STEAMedUK, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:58 PM EST
#ASEchat
hard to prioritise
STEAMedUK
Jan 23 @ 3:55 PM EST
.. to dev. the ethos but it's difficult & I'll have to stop to start the STEAM Club. No β±
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @natkin, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:58 PM EST
@NeedhamL56
@jesswade
@ASPIRES2science
ππ³π€ fascinating. But seems like such a low hanging fruit!!
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @NeedhamL56, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science
mrsjmclark
Jan 23 @ 3:59 PM EST
@MisterTJW
Just Microsoft Word, it's available here if it helps anyone:
https://t.co/sIUMAi2wAj
#ASEChat
In reply to @LessonToolbox, @MisterTJW
natkin
- Moderator
Jan 23 @ 3:59 PM EST
Love that
#ASEchat
The IOP are doing lots of work on IGB
HelpfulScience
Jan 23 @ 3:57 PM EST
@STEAMedUK
@jesswade
@ASPIRES2science
"removing" stereotypes complex - first step I think to make sure chn understand this:
#ASEChat
In reply to @natkin, @STEAMedUK, @jesswade, @ASPIRES2science