#Zonefballchat Archive

participatechat Jan 19 @ 8:00 PM EST

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CoachBlacha Jan 19 @ 8:01 PM EST

Phillip Blacha OL/S&C Brookland-Cayce High #zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:01 PM EST

Coaches welcome time to check in, who are you, where you from, what do you coach #zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:01 PM EST

Ryan Mcdonald OL Mooresville HS (IN) host of #zonefballchat

CoachBehnfeldt Jan 19 @ 8:03 PM EST

Brandon Behnfeldt Delphos Jefferson HS OH #zonefballchat

Zach_Turner1 Jan 19 @ 8:04 PM EST

Zach Turner Kenton High School (OH). Ready to talk so wide zone. Believer that inside zone (tight) is the best play in fb #Zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:05 PM EST

We will follow Q1/A1 format please make sure you are following your fellow coaches to grow our network #zonefballchat

Dane94Smith Jan 19 @ 8:07 PM EST

#Zonefballchat Dane Smith OL 2018 @ Mooresville HS

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:08 PM EST

Welcome @Dane94Smith #zonefballchat

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CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:09 PM EST

Coaches keep checking in Q1 will be on the way momentarily #zonefballchat

steverson_brett Jan 19 @ 8:10 PM EST

Brett Steverson. OL Coach. Jackson GA #Zonefballchat

coachdljones25 Jan 19 @ 8:11 PM EST

Derrick Jones HC Patrick County high school #zonefballchat

Caleb_Bagley Jan 19 @ 8:11 PM EST

Caleb bagley, HC Coahulla creek high school GA #zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:14 PM EST

Doug Greenwood Head OL Jenks America #Zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:15 PM EST

Q1 what is your teaching progression of your IZ double team? How do you work through the small pieces and then the whole #Zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:18 PM EST

A1 we start working the uncov (1 hand punch) then will move DL to a Outside technique and work 2 hand punch with 1 hand #zonefballchat

Caleb_Bagley Jan 19 @ 8:18 PM EST

A1 Covered lead step attack playside #, uncovered aim at helmet: DL anchors dbl to next level, helmet goes out climb, #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:18 PM EST

Covered steps= point power, uncovered steps= position pull power. Make call to 1st lvl combo to # of 2nd lvl #Zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:18 PM EST

After work down man then add LB #zonefballchat

CoachBehnfeldt Jan 19 @ 8:19 PM EST

A1: Work indy steps of UC vs C, showing aiming point for hands. We progress to pod drill where we work different scenarios #zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:19 PM EST

By giving names to your steps it allows you to teach directly to each step and develops a common language #Zonefballchat

Caleb_Bagley Jan 19 @ 8:20 PM EST

A1 helmet comes in overtake, covered compresses him down. Start with step fit, fit drive, then all together. all 3 pictures #Zonefballchat

steverson_brett Jan 19 @ 8:20 PM EST

Cov= ps tit. Ucov=sternum. big eye little eye on DT. Little eye is sunk to defenders chest, big eye looking for chip on lb #Zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:21 PM EST

we call our first step our "SetStep". Gets us on our aim pt #zonefballchat where do you go from there

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steverson_brett Jan 19 @ 8:21 PM EST

A1) continued.... aim small miss small #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:21 PM EST

We start in pairs then pods(3) then quads. Start with 1st lvl combo then add 2nd lvl #Zonefballchat

Dane94Smith Jan 19 @ 8:22 PM EST

#Zonefballchat We work through the small progressions by following @CoachRmcD60 techniques and drills. Working a lot on hip & feet placement

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CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:23 PM EST

never thought of working quads great idea #Zonefballchat

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CoachBehnfeldt Jan 19 @ 8:23 PM EST

A1: key is to get movement and only come off of double when you get to LB level, which could be at LOS or 5 yd downfield. #zonefballchat

CoachBlacha Jan 19 @ 8:24 PM EST

A1: hip to hip drive out, LB moves that OL takes over. Create space for RB to hit, DL slants away work up to LB #Zonefballchat

Dane94Smith Jan 19 @ 8:24 PM EST

#Zonefballchat A1 continued.... working more with hip and foot placement, & cooperating your hand placement with your punch gives more power

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:24 PM EST

2nd step is then a per step, with any pwr step comes a punch to the sternum, we dont use lazy elbow or flippers #Zonefballchat

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CoachBehnfeldt Jan 19 @ 8:25 PM EST

A1: 2 vs 2 pods. work each shade by DT and head up. The LB is stacked and offset to give different looks for OL #zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:25 PM EST

agreed toyed with the flipper and could never deliver enough punch #Zonefballchat

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JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:26 PM EST

2 hands on 1st lvl 4 eyes on 2nd lvl #Zonefballchat

CoachBlacha Jan 19 @ 8:26 PM EST

A1: cont: 6in steps wide base, eyes up looking for LB #Zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:26 PM EST

Q2 what is your teaching progression in OZ does it differ from IZ if so how? #zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:27 PM EST

also a punch allows you to knock 1st lvl over top and catapult you to 2nd lvl #Zonefballchat

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LCGrizzlyFB Jan 19 @ 8:27 PM EST

Our kids couldn't deliver enough of a blow with a flipper either. #Zonefballchat

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CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:27 PM EST

Covered man now becomes 1 hand punch uncov is trying to take over and be 2 hand punch cov aim pt is Outside number to Arm pit #zonefballchat

Caleb_Bagley Jan 19 @ 8:27 PM EST

A2, aiming points/footwork change but our count system/covered uncovered stays the same. Try to be consistent in rules. #zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:28 PM EST

A2 uncov is inside number to sternum #zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:28 PM EST

A2 yes diff steps. Pit Peter Push, we do not call combos, slows you down. If you made contact on Push step then teach or run #Zonefballchat

steverson_brett Jan 19 @ 8:29 PM EST

A2) C aim point is ps elbow, UC aim point is ps number. DTs are quicker in OZ. Cut back is deadly as well. #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:29 PM EST

A2 cont if no contact made then Push to 2nd lvl #Zonefballchat

CoachBlacha Jan 19 @ 8:29 PM EST

A2: IZ gap to down blocking, OZ reach to overreach steadily working outside #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:30 PM EST

sorry it reach or run #Zonefballchat

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CoachBehnfeldt Jan 19 @ 8:30 PM EST

A2: OZ is different by aiming points and footwork. Look seal and bump instead of doubling. Eye focus goes to LB instead of DL #zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:31 PM EST

only if uncovered has made contact on 3rd step (Push step) #Zonefballchat

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JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:32 PM EST

yes, stepping on his peter, we crossover #Zonefballchat

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CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:35 PM EST

Q3. How do you determine Cov vs Uncov. If a lineman is cov his BS gap but not PS would you consider him cov why or why not #zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:36 PM EST

on IZ or OZ? #Zonefballchat

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Caleb_Bagley Jan 19 @ 8:36 PM EST

A3 covered- DL is either head up, outside shade, or inside shade. #zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:38 PM EST

On OZ I don't care where he lines up, I take my Pit Peter Push steps #Zonefballchat

CoachBehnfeldt Jan 19 @ 8:38 PM EST

A3: IZ, he is covered if we have BS shade. We look to power step and double. OZ, he works to next DL and we cut BS shade. #zonefballchat

CoachMckieJr Jan 19 @ 8:38 PM EST

Ron Mckie. QB/OC Crestwood High School Sumter, SC. Sorry for being late #Zonefballchat

Caleb_Bagley Jan 19 @ 8:38 PM EST

A3 IZ- covered will work pop/ricochet vs inside shade, OZ works a stiff arm on departure #zonefballchat

CoachSReid Jan 19 @ 8:38 PM EST

#zonefballchat @CoachDARamsey

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CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:39 PM EST

A3 I have always used BS would be Uncovered would be interested in looking at how others do it #zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:39 PM EST

On IZ then we will call that as part of our combo , we will always step PS just adjust angle of our Point step #Zonefballchat

steverson_brett Jan 19 @ 8:41 PM EST

A3) The zone count system. Center calls 0. PSG #1. PST #2. If the center has a BS shade and PS 3, he will work with BSG to -1 #zonefballchat

CoachBehnfeldt Jan 19 @ 8:41 PM EST

A3: Also with OZ, we have worked the stiff arm to slow for overtake, but would rather cut, especially BS of OL. #zonefballchat

coachikeyray Jan 19 @ 8:42 PM EST

A3: BS gap is deemed uncovered. #Zonefballchat

brandonmstultz Jan 19 @ 8:43 PM EST

Used that first yr teaching zone, found we got split a lot BS BC of rules and lack of exp/trust w footwork. #zonefballchat

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CoachBlacha Jan 19 @ 8:44 PM EST

A3: BS I don't because he can now get to next level LB but safety step to prevent slant then go. Or we cut with BSOL #Zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:44 PM EST

Q4 IZ what is your back reading. OZ what is your backs landmark and do you allow him to get vertical if see a seam #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:45 PM EST

agreed, but we don't cut at all, try to get to 2nd then 3rd lvl #Zonefballchat

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Caleb_Bagley Jan 19 @ 8:46 PM EST

A4: IZ- outside leg of guard, read 1st DL playside; OZ crack of TE, he plays out get north. One cut and hammer #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:46 PM EST

We have a FS IZ that RB reads PSLB. Our BS IZ he reads BSLB #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:47 PM EST

Aimining point for both is midline of the center and press LOS #Zonefballchat

CoachBehnfeldt Jan 19 @ 8:48 PM EST

A4: IZ, aiming point is PS hip of C and looking at interior DL and how they are blocked. OZ, aiming point TE and can BBB #zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:49 PM EST

Why read a 1st lvl defender when combo, LBs make 60%+ tackles, more difficult to block, RB sets LB up and makes him wrong #Zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:49 PM EST

A4 IZ. Inside leg of Guard OZ 1x1 outside of emol #Zonefballchat

Coach_JStewart Jan 19 @ 8:50 PM EST

Jamaal Stewart John Overton High School Nashville TN Offensive Coordinator #Zonefballchat

CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:50 PM EST

how do you combat a penetrating DL?? #Zonefballchat

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JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:51 PM EST

OZ Inside leg of TE or ghost, read Offense butts #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:52 PM EST

in what scenario? #Zonefballchat

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CoachBlacha Jan 19 @ 8:52 PM EST

A4: IZ Centers butt, OZ stretch with possible daylight #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:53 PM EST

also RB will 5 and decide make cut off butts #Zonefballchat

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CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:53 PM EST

reading the ILB vs DL just trying to learn why you do it and see if It's better then how I do #Zonefballchat

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CoachBlacha Jan 19 @ 8:54 PM EST

we are pretty small so try and inflict some damage lol #Zonefballchat

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brandonmstultz Jan 19 @ 8:54 PM EST

A4 IZ backs read 1st defender PS of C, vs odd, man over center. Aim IZ at crack of PSG, OZ at crack of TE. #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:54 PM EST

if he is penetrating we identify as a positive penetrator and we can run a fold scheme on IZ or pin pull on OZ #Zonefballchat

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CoachRmcD60 - Moderator Jan 19 @ 8:56 PM EST

Q5 what are your favorite tweaks off of IZ or OZ (Reads, keys,) Not RPOs #Zonefballchat

coachmikerowe Jan 19 @ 8:56 PM EST

A4: We have or RB aim for crack of the center. That way he can cut off the DE if he doesn't close down B gap. Follow dbl team #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:56 PM EST

I would be happy to have a webinar to be able to effectively explain, let me know if there is interest...#Zonefballchat

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coachmikerowe Jan 19 @ 8:58 PM EST

A5: love using fly or orbit motion to create misdirection aspect to defense. #Zonefballchat

JENKScoachGWOOD Jan 19 @ 8:58 PM EST

have Tags that allow for fold schemes or Pin Pull, we run split zone or swab to 2nd lvl. Also a OZ cut and same side OZ #Zonefballchat

CoachBlacha Jan 19 @ 8:59 PM EST

A5: counter, QB power, jet sweep, inside trap #Zonefballchat