#meded Archive
All ideas and resources tweeted alongside #meded are curated and collected here.
Thursday August 10, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to the Medical Education chat (US) I am your moderator for the next hour,
@RyanMadanickMD
#meded
FVUrgentCare
Aug 10 @ 9:00 PM EDT
"Having morning workout habit is best way for being active consistently" by
@doccottle
https://t.co/0QBJfKeS5O
#5ShotFriday
#meded
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:00 PM EDT
The topic & questions will be announced in a moment…for now, please introduce yourselves
#meded
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:01 PM EDT
If you are tuning in to the
#meded
chat, remember to use the
#meded
hashtag and try to answer with the Topic numbers (T1, T2, T3)
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:02 PM EDT
#meded
Looking forward to the chat,
@RyanMadanickMD
CPHJobs
Aug 10 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Want to work in
#Soldotna
, AK? View our latest opening:
https://t.co/NP0lGj4Qqo
#MedEd
#Alaskan
#RN
#Job
#Jobs
#Hiring
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hello Gary!
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Good evening
#meded
chat! I’m an ed researcher at
@AUG_EII
. Most of my work centers around simulation and assessing higher-order thinking.
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Nice to have you join us tonight!
#meded
In reply to @AJKleinhex, @AUG_EII
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:04 PM EDT
We will assume that all of your tweets are your own during this hour unless otherwise stated
#meded
CPHJobs
Aug 10 @ 9:05 PM EDT
We're
#hiring
! Click to apply: RN - Medical/Surgical -
https://t.co/mROJcfVmgb
#Alaskan
#MedEd
#MedField
#RN
#Soldotna
, AK
#Job
#Jobs
centegracareers
Aug 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Want to work at Centegra Health System? We're
#hiring
in
#CrystalLake
, IL! Click for details:
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#MedEd
#Scrublife
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT
T1 about to come up in a few moments
#meded
CalebPingelMD
Aug 10 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Just finished the Advance tactical trauma course 2017
#meded
#siuem
hedy_wald
Aug 10 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Breathe in. Breathe out. Repeat.
@migagos
@UrbnHealthNP
#meded
UrbnHealthNP
Aug 10 @ 8:55 PM EDT
I am very proud of my deep breathing today amidst level 10 shenanigans.
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:07 PM EDT
In
@JAMA_current
this wk, Cabitza et al discussed "Unintended Consequences of Machine Learning in Medicine”
https://t.co/3wkQvbvIo8
#meded
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:08 PM EDT
(If you cannot access the article, please LMK & I can get it for you
#meded
)
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:08 PM EDT
TOPIC 1: What are the benefits of machine learning in medicine? What does medicine risk from relying too much on machine learning?
#meded
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:09 PM EDT
T1 now live at
#meded
chat: What are benefits & risks of machine learning in medicine?
#hcsm
#medsm
#medschool
#medstudents
FVUrgentCare
Aug 10 @ 9:10 PM EDT
"You must exert precious time & resources to maintain your place in line" by
@doccottle
https://t.co/71MkgTicrG
#5ShotFriday
#meded
hedy_wald
Aug 10 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Mindful, intentional presence. Ready2hear,ready2listen
@darshanatshah
@2LindaMLove
#leaders
#meded
"Hineni-I AmHere"
https://t.co/1RdYqgIUjn
2LindaMLove
Aug 10 @ 6:36 AM EDT
#Listening
is #1 skill for
#leaders
. It's real: most don't use Conscious Listening in prof practice. Listening
#coaching
@unmcfacdev
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:11 PM EDT
T1: The risk in all machine-based systems of data analysis holds true in medicine too - garbage in, garbage out.
#meded
VHCCareers
Aug 10 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Can you recommend anyone for this
#job
? Urologist -
https://t.co/6mVeNudilr
#Doctor
#MedEd
#MD
#Physician
#Arlington
, VA
#Hiring
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:14 PM EDT
T1: Conversely, if
#meded
focuses on developing data collection/input skills, you leverage the benefits of both professionals & algorithms.
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:16 PM EDT
#meded
T1 Big data can be informative but there is an art to medicine that may get lost in that
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:16 PM EDT
T1 I’m concerned that machines cannot interpret the subtleties of human behavior
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Progress also relies on making leaps and connections, that may be initially unsupported by trends in the data.
#meded
T1
In reply to @GLBDallaghan
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT
It seems like machine-based systems directly contradict holistic patient care. Maybe it doesn’t really, but it seems that way. T1
#meded
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @GLBDallaghan
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:19 PM EDT
What do you mean specifically?
#meded
In reply to @AJKleinhex, @GLBDallaghan
FVUrgentCare
Aug 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT
"Harvard researchers 3D print a heart-on-a-chip" by
@doccottle
https://t.co/T9SMqypG8E
#5ShotFriday
#meded
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#meded
T1 I'm also concerned about where in a packed curriculum we'd teach
#medstudents
this
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Getting a jump on T2, are we?? ;)
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Ahhh, I got it
#meded
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Clinical reasoning is non-linear analytical thinking. The mind can make connections without explicit evidence. Machines apply linear logic.
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @GLBDallaghan
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:21 PM EDT
T1
#meded
Great minds 😉
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Tonight in
#meded
chat we’re talking about Machine Learning in Medicine. T2 will be up shortly
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:23 PM EDT
T1
#meded
Unless you employ dynamical systems with probability models it is possible.
In reply to @AJKleinhex, @RyanMadanickMD
BloodyKleio
Aug 10 @ 9:23 PM EDT
#Hemepath
&
#MedEd
enthusiasts check out
https://t.co/tYpWyzaJSb
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:24 PM EDT
TOPIC 2: How can medical educators use machine learning to improve teaching & training? What are risks to using machine learning in
#meded
?
CPHJobs
Aug 10 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Can you recommend anyone for this
#job
in
#Soldotna
, AK?
https://t.co/PPE0CnxgKT
#Alaskan
#MedEd
#MedField
#Nursing
#Hiring
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:25 PM EDT
T2 now live @
#meded
chat: How can med educs use machne lrning to imprv teaching? what risks are there?
#hcsm
#medsm
#medstudents
#medschool
centegracareers
Aug 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Join the Centegra Health System team! See our latest
#job
opening here:
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#MedEd
#Scrublife
#HospitalLife
#Healthcare
ZachSmithGI
Aug 10 @ 9:26 PM EDT
T1: Lots of value in sim lab based learning. I had a great sim lab curriculum in residency. Huge in emerg med
#meded
https://t.co/iXBMVIWJNY
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:09 PM EDT
T1 now live at
#meded
chat: What are benefits & risks of machine learning in medicine?
#hcsm
#medsm
#medschool
#medstudents
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#meded
T2
#medstudents
already struggle with only wanting THE right answer...machine learning may make that worse
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:28 PM EDT
T2
#meded
Medicine is not as concrete as data trends attempt to present.
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:28 PM EDT
We (people) are still better at seeing the forest for the trees
#meded
In reply to @AJKleinhex, @GLBDallaghan
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:29 PM EDT
T2: Machine learning can teach us a lot about how the mind learns. It has less to offer in terms of pedagogy.
#meded
FVUrgentCare
Aug 10 @ 9:30 PM EDT
"How to make your own Muesli?" by
@doccottle
https://t.co/PLnoOUu9PK
#5ShotFriday
#meded
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:32 PM EDT
T2
#meded
So perhaps this content could be integrated like we do population health topics
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @AJKleinhex
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:33 PM EDT
T2 So… begin teaching about machine learning early in a curriculum?
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @AJKleinhex
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:37 PM EDT
T2
#meded
As an introduction so
#medstudents
begin to recognize it....but figure out how to address in clerkships. Thoughta?
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @AJKleinhex
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:38 PM EDT
T2 It’s almost as if there'd have to be a specific faculty member dedicated to teaching it across clerkships in the clinical years
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @AJKleinhex
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:39 PM EDT
T2 It depends on the learning objectives. Is the objective to rely on the system, or to manage the system? Managing takes more skill.
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @RyanMadanickMD
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:39 PM EDT
T2
#meded
True....kind of like a coil weaving through all of the clerkships
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @AJKleinhex
FVUrgentCare
Aug 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT
"The “Other Side” Is Not Dumb" by
@doccottle
https://t.co/qIt2XgomxI
#5ShotFriday
#meded
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:40 PM EDT
T2: As an instructional designer, the idea of implementing evolving tech across multiple clerkship sites gives me real stress. ;)
#meded
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @GLBDallaghan
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:41 PM EDT
We’re talking about machine learning in
#meded
chat tonight. T3 will be right up
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:41 PM EDT
TOPIC 3: How can we teach students & docs to deal with how the intrinsic uncertainties of medicine affect machine learning?
#meded
drpmiron
Aug 10 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Signing in late! Machine learning is a new concept for me - must learn!
#meded
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:44 PM EDT
T3: By “deal with” do you mean “accept”? Diffusion of Innovations theory has never steered me wrong.
#meded
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:44 PM EDT
T3 now live @
#meded
chat: How can we teach ppl how to deal medical uncertainty & machine learning?
#medsm
#hcsm
#medschool
#medstudents
SapiensMedicus
Aug 10 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Insulinoterapia: Esquemas de tratamiento para la DM2
https://t.co/bFeq9BYc4j
#Loquedebessaber
#FOAMed
#MedEd
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:45 PM EDT
#meded
T3 It seems that this would need to be taught after
#medstudents
have clinical context to understand this.
CPHJobs
Aug 10 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Want to work at Central Peninsula Hospital? We're
#hiring
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#Soldotna
, AK! Click for details:
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#Alaskan
#MedEd
centegracareers
Aug 10 @ 9:46 PM EDT
This
#job
might be a great fit for you: HB HEAD LIFEGUARD -
https://t.co/3n8MgLW8it
#MedEd
#Scrublife
#HospitalLife
#Healthcare
#Hiring
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:46 PM EDT
T3 What about teaching experienced docs to understand it?
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan
EMedCoach
Aug 10 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Great infographic on Procedural Sedation by MS4
@smuramed
during
#EMClerkship
#FOAMed
#MedEd
@srrezaie
NCHMedEd
Aug 10 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Applying
#bioethics
to the practice of
#pediatric
medicine.
#MedEd
#FOAMed
podcast
@nationwidekids
https://t.co/1UPAjFxvxO
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:49 PM EDT
T3
#meded
I think the reverse might be appropriate....helping them understand the value of machine learning thru their lens of experience
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD
FVUrgentCare
Aug 10 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Eat light and stay healthy with the newest edition of
#5ShotFriday
by
@doccottle
https://t.co/qIt2Xg6LGa
#meded
oslertech
Aug 10 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Assessments made easy EPA-based assessments at the bedside, designed for busy clinical staff on the go
https://t.co/245OVhDmtu
#meded
MHealthLab
Aug 10 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Get a weekly digest of medical research and innovation, straight to your inbox:
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#MedEd
#HealthTech
#CancerResearch
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:52 PM EDT
T3: 1st step in any widespread ed tech innovation is to teach the teachers. Then ideally give them autonomy in the adoption process.
#meded
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @GLBDallaghan
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:54 PM EDT
T3: Ed tech, particularly machine learning, can feel threatening. There'd also need to be a significant amount of change management.
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @RyanMadanickMD
OHSUSOM
Aug 10 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Help us welcome our new Assistant Dean for Admissions Dr. Robert Cloutier:
https://t.co/nVFFenIjfp
#meded
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Aug 10 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Well, we have about 5 more minutes left in our discussion. Please feel free to give some final thoughts
#meded
GLBDallaghan
Aug 10 @ 9:56 PM EDT
#meded
Thanks for another thought provoking chat!
In reply to @MedEdChat
RyanMadanickMD
Aug 10 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Thank you as always!
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @MedEdChat
AJKleinhex
Aug 10 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Great
#meded
chat topic! I especially appreciate the reading material at the jump.
In reply to @MedEdChat