#sblchat Archive
Wednesday April 26, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
#sblchat
starts now! We are chatting about student self-assessment tonight. Please start intros...
CoachLesterBHS
Apr 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Adam Lester, English teacher from Batavia High School. Excited to learn with you all
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. Timely topic for me and
@MrMontrose311
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome Adam!
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on self-assessment
In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @MrMontrose311
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Hi Adam! Great to have you with us tonight.
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In reply to @CoachLesterBHS, @MrMontrose311
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:01 PM EDT
I'm Garnet, an instructional coach from the Chicagoland area. It's always great to moderate this chat with my friend
@RoweRikW
!
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leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Lee Ann Jung, Lexington, KY Hi, everyone!
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Mike from Rochester area (Hilton HS). I teach Biology
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Good evening Mike!
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Lee, pleased to welcome you!
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In reply to @leeannjung
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Wonderful to have you with us Lee Ann!
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In reply to @leeannjung
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Mike, we were hoping you'd be here in
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello
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! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy to be here!
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Jake from MN. I teach HS math. Been a few weeks since being in the chat as baseball season is in full swing. Excited to be here!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Good evening friend!
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In reply to @KatieBudrow
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Katie White from Canada. Coordinator of Learning.
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MrMontrose311
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello! 1st time in this chat. Co-T w
@CoachLesterBHS
. Love teaching, Harley's, and smoking meats. Excited to join!!
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kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Kirk here from Chicago northshore. Hello all!!! Ready to get my
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on.
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi Jacob. Yes , another HS Math Teacher! Welcome.
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In reply to @jtmehr
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi Jake, we are glad you are back!
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In reply to @jtmehr
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Katie, nice to see your smiling face!
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In reply to @KatieBudrow
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Kathy,
#NGSS
science geek, proficiency-based learning team
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi Katie!
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Dave - HS SS in Des Moines, IA area ready for
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
We are happy to have you with us tonight!
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In reply to @MrMontrose311, @CoachLesterBHS
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Katie, let's coordinate the self-assessment tonight on
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome to your first
#SBLchat
!
In reply to @MrMontrose311, @CoachLesterBHS
j_ozbolt
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Jason. HS dean from IL ready to learn and grow!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hello neighbor!
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In reply to @kirk_humphreys
JohnSchlender
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
John - MS Principal from Mayville, WI. Looking forward to learning together tonight.
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sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Montessori middle school teacher..... Joining the chat about self-assessment mainly to listen in and make connections!! Math mostly
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BradLatzke
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Brad in Bangkok joining
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theedpodcast
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
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Hi all - Shane from AB Canada. Teacher of ELA, drama and film studies. Also a dedicated education podcaster.
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Aaron Blackwelder HS ELA from rainy SW Washington.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Good evening Kathy!
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
MsSmithSTEM
Apr 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Jessica from MI! HS Algebra and Biology teacher. First time joining this chat and am looking forward to it!
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Like this tweet if you're new to
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so we can welcome you to our Standards-Based Learning Crew!
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Help us welcome {
@MrMontrose311
} to his first time in
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Dave!
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In reply to @DRich0696
xakellis
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Mike from
@TeacherEase
here in Chicagoland...
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
We're ready for you, Kirk!
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In reply to @kirk_humphreys
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Good evening friend!
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In reply to @j_ozbolt
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
All welcome, Kathy! Nice to see you!
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi John, thanks for joining us again.
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In reply to @JohnSchlender
kindtwinsmom
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Jill from Minnesota. Secondary Curriculum Specialist.
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Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Glad to join
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tonight.
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Welcome to
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- Bio and Alg is an interesting HS combo
In reply to @MsSmithSTEM
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Dave, pleased to welcome you!
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In reply to @DRich0696
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Good evening Sarah! Feel free to jump in anytime.
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In reply to @sarahjhemingway
MrLencioni
Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Mike from Chicagoland. Former teacher, now with
@TeacherEase
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Glad you are with us Brad!
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In reply to @BradLatzke
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Pleasure to have you here, Brad!
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In reply to @BradLatzke
KC_SEASportsFan
Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Brett, Lamar, Mo., aspiring K teacher
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Good evening Shane!
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In reply to @theedpodcast
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Good evening Aaron!
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
where in Canada? I'm from Hamilton Ontario
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Let's give Jessica {
@MsSmithSTEM
} our warm welcome in
#sblchat
on self-assessment Tonight!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi Jessica!
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In reply to @MsSmithSTEM
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi Shane! Welcome.
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In reply to @theedpodcast
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Good evening Mike, glad you could join us!
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In reply to @xakellis, @TeacherEase
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Aaron, honored for you to join us!
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Happy Wednesday!!
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
mrsprebble84
Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Becky from The western suburbs of Chicago. HS ELA
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi Jill!
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In reply to @kindtwinsmom
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 Why is student self-assessment important to the learning process?
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Mike, we were waiting for You!
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In reply to @xakellis, @TeacherEase
RESP3CTtheGAME
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Brian, HS comm arts in WI. Self-assessment is one of my favorite topics. Looking forward to
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
We are glad to have you!
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In reply to @Erik_Youngman
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Jill, Greetings!
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In reply to @kindtwinsmom
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hello Rik! ;) How did you know I was smiling ...
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In reply to @RoweRikW
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hello Mike!
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In reply to @MrLencioni, @TeacherEase
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Pleased to have you here, Erik!
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In reply to @Erik_Youngman
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Saskatchewan! Glad to see a fellow Canadian!
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In reply to @sarahjhemingway
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Good evening Brett!
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In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi Mike, Welcome!
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In reply to @MrLencioni, @TeacherEase
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 Students are truely the only one who know where they are in their own learning
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 Why is student self-assessment important to the learning process?
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 - When our Learners are willing to self-assess, they're able to better close the gap in learning through feedback to self!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 Students who can monitor their learning are more engaged - they own the process.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hi Becky!
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In reply to @mrsprebble84
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hmmmm. just guessed!
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In reply to @KatieBudrow
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 When students participate in their own assessment they take ownership of their own learning. Leads to self directed learning.
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DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: self-assessment encourages ownership of the learning and is a life skill.
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BMSscienceteach
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
All around awesome human being.
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 Self assessment gives students more ownership in their learning. They see their own needs vs being told what they need.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hi Brian!
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In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Let's hope this become a favorite for our Learners!
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In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Students need to know where they are in their learning and where they want to go. It is their journey, after all ...
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 - Learners willing to self-assess might be open to how they could improve and might have more of a growth mindset.
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sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
likewise!!! Would love to compare notes between provinces sometime too!
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: Self-assessment is a key way to shift and support responsibility for the learning journey back to the learners. Belongs to them
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DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Um, has anybody said ownership of learning?
#greatminds
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CoachLesterBHS
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1- Lets Ss own their learning. They know where they are and where to go. Allows ownership of their progress.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 Why is student self-assessment important to the learning process?
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j_ozbolt
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 It is their learning and journey! The need to feel the onus of the experience to want to continue to grow
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kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@theedpodcast
Sarah & Shane do you know about CAfLN. If not see cafln.ca. I’m looking forward to meeting
@KatieWhite426
next week.
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In reply to @sarahjhemingway, @KatieWhite426, @theedpodcast, @KatieWhite426
MsSmithSTEM
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: Extends individual learning beyond the classroom; students can check their understanding, initiate their own learning
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1 Why is student self-assessment important to the learning process?
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mrsprebble84
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: Self assessment helps students become part of the feedback loop
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KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
when students guide their own learning and self-assess they are much more engaged in the learning, it is more relevant
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KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: Self-assessment allows Ts to gain critical insight into processes, misconceptions, preferences. Opens up the conversation
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AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: Learning is about the Ss, not the teacher. If we want to teach Ss to take control of learning they need to self assess.
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
The more we can do that by engaging them and motivating them the better
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In reply to @MsSmithSTEM
KC_SEASportsFan
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
I think those who self-assess are better at knowing where they need to work harder at. I think it helps them when they get fedbk
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 Why is student self-assessment important to the learning process?
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kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 Because we can’t really learn anything till we can self-assess.
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Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 teachers can enhance engagement, reflection and deeper understanding when they encourage self-assessment
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Good evening Ken!
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In reply to @kenoc7
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Yes, relevance is HUGE in Learning!
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KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
when students guide their own learning and self-assess they are much more engaged in the learning, it is more relevant
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kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Students must take ownership in their learning. No matter your age, self-reflection is key for improvement.
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BradLatzke
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Thoughtful self-assessment is a vital life skill. Meaningful practice in the learning process is (should be) mandatory.
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DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 S's must be able to self assess, to call on prior knowledge and develop their best strategies for learning
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sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
true. How do they communicate that to us?
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
And when Ts model it for their Ss
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In reply to @Erik_Youngman
MrMontrose311
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 It puts the student in the cockpit. The ownership and dynamic are flipped in the best of ways
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 Why is student self-assessment important to the learning process?
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leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Because learning to assess your own learning is as important as what it is you are intending to learn.
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DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Self-assessment leads to self-directed learning. Hopefully they can predict next steps toward the learning target.
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KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Blushing and you are pretty special yourself
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BMSscienceteach
Apr 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
All around awesome human being.
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
KC_SEASportsFan
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
I think I said that right 😂😭😂😭😂😭 Having to work around the character limit threw my thought off
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In reply to @KC_SEASportsFan
kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Yes!!
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KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Students need to know where they are in their learning and where they want to go. It is their journey, after all ...
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BradyVenables
Apr 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1:Because it real world, facts rarely matter. Knowing what you know/don't know and how to move forward is where it's at.
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DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 Also, so critical for us to develop reflective learners. A skill that will serve them well always
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I think the best way is 1:1 communication F to F
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In reply to @sarahjhemingway
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Agree that self assessment makes conversations with students about their learning much easier. Can describe precisely their needs.
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In reply to @KatieWhite426
CoachLesterBHS
Apr 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I knew this to be true, but I could never say it so eloquently.
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leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Because learning to assess your own learning is as important as what it is you are intending to learn.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1.2 Many of us are revisiting our grading practices, portfolios feed right in to standards-referenced grading.
#1to1techat
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
F2F and 1:1 communication, feedback, and collaboration is where it's at!
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I think the best way is 1:1 communication F to F
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In reply to @sarahjhemingway
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
I love how today we can do this with even the shy student through the use of tech
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In reply to @jtmehr, @KatieWhite426
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Awwww, shucks. So nice :-)
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In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I'm late to the party! 😬 Joni Degner, UDL Facilitator from Columbus IN.
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jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
True!
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @KatieWhite426
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Joni, we are pleased to welcome you!
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In reply to @DegnerJoni
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Exactly! Sometimes their work doesn't tell us enough. Self-assessment builds insight
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In reply to @theedpodcast
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I agree, conversations are the best way. When that isn't possible, tech opens the door to a different style of dialogue.
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @sarahjhemingway
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Motivation to learn and grow
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sounds like a Dan Pink book to me
#Drive
In reply to @MsSmithSTEM
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Hi Joni!
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In reply to @DegnerJoni
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
And this is so important that we are all inclusive
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
I love how today we can do this with even the shy student through the use of tech
#sblchat
In reply to @jtmehr, @KatieWhite426
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Meet the students where they are
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In reply to @garnet_hillman, @sarahjhemingway
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@DanielPink
we are talking about you in
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Tonight!
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Motivation to learn and grow
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sounds like a Dan Pink book to me
#Drive
In reply to @MsSmithSTEM
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
So true, or even things like journals or letters. Also conferring supports shy students
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
I love how today we can do this with even the shy student through the use of tech
#sblchat
In reply to @jtmehr, @KatieWhite426
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Exactly.
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @sarahjhemingway
P_J_Dodds
Apr 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
From a titan in standards based learning via
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kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 Because we can’t really learn anything till we can self-assess.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 How do you build and cultivate a classroom culture conducive to student self-assessment?
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Fasten your seatbelt for engaging conversation! Welcome!
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DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Thank you! Long time lurker, first time participant in
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In reply to @RoweRikW
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
And not 'the destination'? Gee whiz, I wonder why that speaks to you. ;)
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: Rick Stiggins: If you want to appear accountable, test your students...
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 - Our Learners better self-assess when they explain a process or provide the 'why' for the mathematical steps.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Start with relationships. Once those are established a culture of trust can take hold and support self-assessment.
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
I LOVE the journey! Even sweeter when you have a group of motivated educators with you
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#tg2
In reply to @KatieBudrow, @AaronSBlackwel1
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1-Assessing your own work = Evaluating = Highest order thinking skill among many Bloom's charts...
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1 Why is student self-assessment important to the learning process?
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hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1 (cont) If you want to appear accountable, test your students...
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jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Agree. Looking at just Ss work can be hard for Ts to understand their thinking. Self assessment let's Ss communicate thought.
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In reply to @KatieWhite426, @theedpodcast
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Students need to know that failure is part of learning. Productive struggle builds perseverance.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 - A
#CultureOfFeedback
explained by
@plugusin
and
@mrscienceteach
could lead to more self-assessing through feedback.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 For me, students have to self-assess (and peer review) before showing me their work. We talk a lot about how valuable this is.
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1 continued: Rick Stiggins: If you want to improve schools, teach teachers to assess their students...
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 - I am always working on that one, but I think modeling how to be reflective is important
#blogging
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 How do you build and cultivate a classroom culture conducive to student self-assessment?
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: Give them the tools to do it, practice with feedback, then don't let them off the hook. Challenge and support them.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Sweet to see you, Friend!
#sblchat
brenemanangela
Apr 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Self reflection really make students think about their thinking even at their youngest age.
#growthmindset
taught early!
In reply to @RoweRikW
Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 build environment that facilitates self-assessment by understanding students, modeling & being accepting
#sblchat
BradyVenables
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: tchrs should openly reflect on their PD/PL as they try new things with kids. Model it!
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Modeling is powerful. Letting students see us self-assess our own work and asking them to assess us makes it part of the culture
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2- Teach them how to give and receive feedback. I wrote about this recently.
#sblchat
https://t.co/TRDDMiioot
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 How do you build and cultivate a classroom culture conducive to student self-assessment?
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1 continued: Rick Stiggins: If you want to maximize learning, teach students to assess themselves.
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Also culturally responsive. Self-assessment has to respect cultural ways of reflecting.
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
KC_SEASportsFan
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Relationships with your Ss is the heart and soul of the classroom I feel.
#SBLChat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Start with relationships. Once those are established a culture of trust can take hold and support self-assessment.
#sblchat
MrMontrose311
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Students need a tutorial on the grading paradigm shift. HINT use analogies and user friendly tools. Start small.
@CoachLesterBHS
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 How do you build and cultivate a classroom culture conducive to student self-assessment?
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
RT Q2 How do you build and cultivate a classroom culture conducive to student self-assessment?
#sblchat
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1-Also, helps Ss own their own learning and become less teacher-centered...
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1 Why is student self-assessment important to the learning process?
#sblchat
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q2 Through asking leading questions &a cognitive coaching rather than always giving answers.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Learning how to do this myself first
#sblchat
In reply to @CoachLesterBHS
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Dave, have you read
#CultureOfFeedback
by
@plugusin
and
@mrscienceteach
YET?
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: Give them the tools to do it, practice with feedback, then don't let them off the hook. Challenge and support them.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: Tools like rubrics, protocols, models, etc.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
#coaching
is huge
#sblchat
In reply to @leeannjung
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I love every part of your answer here!
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: Give them the tools to do it, practice with feedback, then don't let them off the hook. Challenge and support them.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 Teach how to, model and expect self-assessment as part of the ongoing process.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
No, but it can go on my summer reading list.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @plugusin, @mrscienceteach
Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Love incorporating
#growthmindset
into learning.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Students need to know that failure is part of learning. Productive struggle builds perseverance.
#sblchat
mrsprebble84
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: By accepting student feedback as authentic and valid
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Develop culture-open,transparent trusting relationships,help Ss know you are all about what they can do,not what they cant do
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 Model what you want to see. Open and honest communication with Ss and acknowledgement when they do well
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I am falling in love with the
#singlepointrubric
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696
MsSmithSTEM
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: Building a safe community but also modeling questions Ss should be asking themselves!! Show them what metacognition looks like.
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: Authentic purposes for the work, meaningful audiences, open discussions, acceptance of risks, empathy and support
#sblchat
rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2: Use an accountability log where students must self assess their progress towards meeting their goals on a daily/ weekly basis.
Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I agree. Feedback is a critical part of the learning process.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: Give them the tools to do it, practice with feedback, then don't let them off the hook. Challenge and support them.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 Feedback on work includes questions & points 2 resources that continue 2 engage Ss in learning rather than give answers/errors
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Gotta get in that learning pit!
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
less pressure for the student 1:1 too. How often do you meet with students?
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Pondering the depth of this...
#sblchat
mrsprebble84
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: By accepting student feedback as authentic and valid
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
So important to focus on what they can do. This is how we determine proficiency, not by thinking about what they can't do.
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
... yet!
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Develop culture-open,transparent trusting relationships,help Ss know you are all about what they can do,not what they cant do
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
We need to model, live the growth mindset so student know we are real.
#sblchat
BradyVenables
Apr 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: tchrs should openly reflect on their PD/PL as they try new things with kids. Model it!
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I think it is huge - still trying to get the teaching part of it right. It's so powerful.
#sblchat
In reply to @jtmehr
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Awesome - Teachers and Students ... All Learners
#sblchat
mrsprebble84
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: By accepting student feedback as authentic and valid
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: Constant reinforcement with students, having conversations with them and constant feedback. It's hard and always a journey.
#sblchat
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Tools, modeling, practice... all part it it.
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696
theedpodcast
Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2: makes sure the time for self assessment is built in to the class or lessons. S's will prioritize if it seems important.
KC_SEASportsFan
Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I love this!
#SBLChat
#PCEduChat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Gotta get in that learning pit!
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Love this! My colleague's (
@KatieBudrow
) students make it into a mountain instead!
#sblchat
In reply to @DegnerJoni, @KatieBudrow
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I try to informally talk to all students each day, but would like to have more formal meetings too
#sblchat
In reply to @sarahjhemingway
hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: Insist that students self-assess anything they submit based on clear criteria. Portfolio platforms like
@Seesaw
facilitate
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Accountability!
#sblchat
rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2: Use an accountability log where students must self assess their progress towards meeting their goals on a daily/ weekly basis.
DrewetteCard
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
3 Reasons Non-Traditional Grading Won’t Negatively Affect College Acceptance
https://t.co/MkiTOWoXII
via
@eatsleepstats
#edchatme
#sblchat
DrewetteCard
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
3 Reasons Non-Traditional Grading Won’t Negatively Affect College Acceptance
https://t.co/JhfRd94SZI
via
@eatsleepstats
#edchatme
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2: When people care about what they are doing (not to be confused with caring about grades), self-assessment occurs organically
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2: Also incredibly lucky to have the same group of students for 3 years... it's an ongoing multi-year journey.
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
As a
#udl
practitioner and advocate, I use the framework. Key part of engagement is eliminating threats and distractions
#sblchat
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Sorry I said Q2 instead of A2...
#sblchat
theedpodcast
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2b: Incorporate S feedback into iteration process. S's are accountable to address the issues they identify.
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
There is some depth. Trust and authenticity need to be developed. Removing fear of failure and judgment is vital!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
#UDL
is the only way to go
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
As a
#udl
practitioner and advocate, I use the framework. Key part of engagement is eliminating threats and distractions
#sblchat
sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
and along with that, letting them get to know us as humans so we can all be humans together - can inspire.
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Universal Design for Learning (UDL) WITH Standards-Based Learning ... Mind-Blowing!!
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
As a
#udl
practitioner and advocate, I use the framework. Key part of engagement is eliminating threats and distractions
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I shared the cult of pedagogy, single point rubric with my
#NGSS
performance assessment participants
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I am falling in love with the
#singlepointrubric
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What are some benefits of student self-assessment?
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Hear hear!
#sblchat
In reply to @sarahjhemingway, @KRScienceLady
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Mike, I knew I liked You!
#UDL
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
#UDL
is the only way to go
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
As a
#udl
practitioner and advocate, I use the framework. Key part of engagement is eliminating threats and distractions
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: Make it routine. While they are working ask we like, "HHow can you do this differently?" or "What did you do well?"
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 - When our Learners self-assess by asking more questions, we find confidence and engagement are elevated.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Students are active in their learning. When they know where they are in their learning, they can make a plan to move forward.
#sblchat
rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2: Ss rotate thru stations & in small group discussions talk abt their progress with feedback from peers & teacher
BradLatzke
Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
The mastery transcript is coming (but not soon enough).
https://t.co/bR3UDVSXjB
#sblchat
DrewetteCard
Apr 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
3 Reasons Non-Traditional Grading Won’t Negatively Affect College Acceptance
https://t.co/JhfRd94SZI
via
@eatsleepstats
#edchatme
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
We won't take any points off ;)
#sblchat
In reply to @leeannjung
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I am in the process of putting together
#SPR
for each CCC, SEP, DCI and PE in area
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I shared the cult of pedagogy, single point rubric with my
#NGSS
performance assessment participants
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I am falling in love with the
#singlepointrubric
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 Students develop independence and problem solving skills. They are not reliant on the teacher for each step in their learning.
#sblchat
Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 students can be more critical about their performance than the teacher or peer would have been.
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3- Calibrate expectations between Ts and Ss. We agree on where they are and where they are going.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What are some benefits of student self-assessment?
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 - Ts do not put Lids on the learning
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What are some benefits of student self-assessment?
#sblchat
AmerHistTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#sblchat
. A3 jumping in - Nancy from Wisconsin - as someone said earlier it allows you to better understand their thought process
BradyVenables
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: higher quality final products, less teacher intervention, more student ownership & engagement, higher authenticity. The works
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3:Ss who don't just learn lots (which they will) but who also know HOW to learn well & powerfully.That's the golden ticket, right?
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
oooh, I would love to see your work if you are willing to share
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I am in the process of putting together
#SPR
for each CCC, SEP, DCI and PE in area
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I shared the cult of pedagogy, single point rubric with my
#NGSS
performance assessment participants
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I am falling in love with the
#singlepointrubric
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Whew! Thank you!
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Welcome Nancy!
#sblchat
In reply to @AmerHistTeach
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 Self-assessment ensures clarity and reliability for the meaning of standards and success criteria for teachers and students.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
RT Q3 What are some benefits of student self-assessment?
#sblchat
mrsprebble84
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: On a practical level it takes some of the burden off the teacher.
#sblchat
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2-Model it especially w/ Ss assessing their own work and comparing it to how you assessed their work. So powerful and reflective.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 How do you build and cultivate a classroom culture conducive to student self-assessment?
#sblchat
MrMontrose311
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 increase in independence, teachable moments, and in my opinion better sets up to be a life long learner
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What are some benefits of student self-assessment?
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Distributed feedback - no need to read or "check" all the practice - Ss are responsible for some feedback.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Absolutely, can we chat after
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 The most competitive skill we can give our students is the ability to learn, and self-assessment is a key part of that.
#sblchat
#udlchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Ss take ownership of learning and and promotes metacognition.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Love this work so much, Brad! Ken shared it with me, and it's amazingly innovative.
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke, @MastTranscript
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
And help the Ts and Ss to share in the ownership of the learning!
#sblchat
mrsprebble84
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: On a practical level it takes some of the burden off the teacher.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 Using self-assessment they understand better three key questions - Where Am I Going? Where Am I now? and What do I do next?
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What are some benefits of student self-assessment?
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 Self-assessment supports student ownership of their learning and answers the Q: "What do I do next?"
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
We all are working on it - takes patience and practice not to jump in and help.
#sblchat
In reply to @MsSmithSTEM
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Students might produce evidence well beyond proficiency in a way the teacher might not have imagined
#sblchat
sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
do you know if there's anything like this for Canada?
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Love the term "Distributed Feedback"!
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Distributed feedback - no need to read or "check" all the practice - Ss are responsible for some feedback.
#sblchat
Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Encouraging self-directed and reflective learners is critical:)
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 Students develop independence and problem solving skills. They are not reliant on the teacher for each step in their learning.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Explosive Learning right here...
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Ss take ownership of learning and and promotes metacognition.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 It keeps their focus on the skills they are learning instead of the task--task is only a vehicle for the good stuff.
#sblchat
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3. (Jumping in late) creates a reflective practice that can lead to deeper understanding & ownership
#sblchat
shirky17
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
#sblchat
that really confuses every Ss when you say "there are no points" or even "no problem , just 100 points off"
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @leeannjung
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
This!
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 The most competitive skill we can give our students is the ability to learn, and self-assessment is a key part of that.
#sblchat
#udlchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Hi Christie!
#sblchat
In reply to @ChristieNold
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Welcome Friend!
#sblchat
In reply to @ChristieNold
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I just made that up!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Agreed. CVU Learns and mastery
https://t.co/JgUi01TJAJ
have interesting transcripts.
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke
kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Agreed. CVU Learns and mastery
https://t.co/1rhIFf1a4R
have interesting transcripts.
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke
DrMathena
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: I ask Ss "If you could do this assignment over what would you do different?" Encourages risk taking, deeper understanding.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
But more importantly, makes Ss part of the assessment process. They can tell you their strengths and weaknesses.
#sblchat
In reply to @mrsprebble84
AmerHistTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
#sblchat
Their self-assessment also provides great feedback for teacher as to how to improve instruction.
mrsprebble84
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: Students also learn to trust their own judgement - which promotes independence. Less "can you check this for me"
#sblchat
rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
#sblchat
A3: Teachers are no longer the sole assessors. Ss become involved in the assessment process.
xakellis
Apr 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 Self-assessment deepens student engagement and gives them ownership of learning. Many become thirsty to improve.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Christie, pleased to welcome you!
#sblchat
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3. (Jumping in late) creates a reflective practice that can lead to deeper understanding & ownership
#sblchat
sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
sorry can I get a translation? UDL?
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
RESP3CTtheGAME
Apr 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 Allowing Ss to self-assess communicates trust. Shifts focus to learning, not judgmental grading. Also shifts learner roles
#sblchat
Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
#metacognition
is critical.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Ss take ownership of learning and and promotes metacognition.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
UDL is Universal Design for Learning!
#sblchat
In reply to @sarahjhemingway, @MikeSzczepanik
BradLatzke
Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Sorry, not informed on Canadian progress to alternative HS transcripts.
@kenoc7
@KatieWhite426
??
#sblchat
In reply to @sarahjhemingway, @kenoc7, @KatieWhite426
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Mixing in a little peer assessment never hurts either.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Awesome. Though right now, mine is a roller-coaster (they thought it fit better with our physics projects). :)
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @DegnerJoni
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3 Also important for T's to remember that S's aren't born knowing how to self assess. We need opportunities to develop this skill
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#sblchat
Imagine?
RoweRikW
Apr 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
My latest endeavor...
#EdChatMA
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
I like this a lot. Ss from traditional grading classrooms are usually task focused instead. It's hard to break.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 It keeps their focus on the skills they are learning instead of the task--task is only a vehicle for the good stuff.
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:33 PM EDT
If students self-assess with single point rubric,then teacher and student can confer, identify strengths and areas for improvement
#sblchat
kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Not Canadian - examples I gave are USA.
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke, @sarahjhemingway, @KatieWhite426
kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3: Students doing the work in improving themselves rather than the teacher.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Yes! Or "As you keep going, what will you do next?"
#sblchat
DrMathena
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: I ask Ss "If you could do this assignment over what would you do different?" Encourages risk taking, deeper understanding.
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:33 PM EDT
UDL is a proactive framework for designing opportunities for all students to find success and become expert learners
#sblchat
In reply to @sarahjhemingway, @MikeSzczepanik
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 What are some limitations of student self-assessment?
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Well put!
@leeannjung
#sblchat
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 It keeps their focus on the skills they are learning instead of the task--task is only a vehicle for the good stuff.
#sblchat
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3. Love this resource for reflection prompts:
https://t.co/eFhsxc8kuX
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Every day!
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @KatieBudrow, @DegnerJoni
hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3. Mutuality, reciprocity, ownership, independence, metacognition, self-regulation...these all enhance learning
#sblchat
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
All about the relationships! If you don't have first, SBL is not fully maximized. A grading culture supporting learning = the dream
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Plus - staying with feedback only ... students read the feedback
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
True, Jacob. And many Ts are task focused, too. Evidence: everyone in the class has the same task to demonstrate a skill.
#sblchat
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
I like this a lot. Ss from traditional grading classrooms are usually task focused instead. It's hard to break.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Apr 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 It keeps their focus on the skills they are learning instead of the task--task is only a vehicle for the good stuff.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
That must be an inspiring school
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @KatieBudrow, @DegnerJoni
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Students must know what quality work looks like in order to self-assess. If they don’t, there won’t be accuracy.
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 - If Learners haven't been expected to self-assess much previously, they may be unsure as to the how or the willingness.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Student short-cuts and unwillingness to be honest kills the learning process.
#sblchat
MsSmithSTEM
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3: Allows students to clearly identify their confusion and ask specific questions rather than the cliche "I don't get it."
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
I blogged about this very thing!
https://t.co/11J5eg4MRx
#sblchat
In reply to @DegnerJoni
sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
no worries we can sort it out :)
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @BradLatzke, @KatieWhite426
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Single point rubrics take away the ceiling and make the sky the limit.
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Limitations. There needs to be way for teacher to include input also
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 Ss must be taught what to assess, how to assess and why self-assessment is crucial
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 What are some limitations of student self-assessment?
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KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 That students don't know what they don't know. Hard to self-assess if you think you have it, but you are actually off-track.
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 - Some Learners may think that their teachers should be doing the crux of the assessing until they realize the benefits.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 Students can be overly easy or hard on themselves - teachers must explicitly teach the skill of self-assessment.
#sblchat
KC_SEASportsFan
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Perhaps that they could focus so much on one thing while perhaps forgetting another. I had another one from last ? And forgot 😫😫😫
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 What are some limitations of student self-assessment?
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DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: students ability to self-assess is only as good as a teacher's ability to teach it.
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jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Very, very true. That's a good reminder for me.
#sblchat
In reply to @leeannjung
kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 Can’t just do self-assessment. Have to be taught how to do it well.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
We want low floors and high ceilings!
#UDLchat
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Single point rubrics take away the ceiling and make the sky the limit.
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: S self-assessment is so important, but it takes time to equip them with the understanding of what quality looks like.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
In our room, we do with with our analytic rubrics too! :)
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4. Ss assessment/reflection is a skill that should be taught & practiced (also modeled) falls flat when we (I) assume Ss know how
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AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Ss struggle with the difference between compliments and feedback.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
RT Q4 What are some limitations of student self-assessment?
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KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Be careful not to confuse self-assessment with self-evaluation. Verification of proficiency still owned by teachers
#sblchat
sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
differentiation how?
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
DingleTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Joining late...Marian from Atlanta. Elementary educator.
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DrMathena
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Limitations - Ss ability, creativity, willingness to take risks, not knowing what exemplar work looks like, concern over peers
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ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 Does anyone else find that some students just struggle to be self-aware enough for self-assessment?
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MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3-Focuses on intrapersonal understanding, metacognition, and life-long skills more important than any of our content...
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What are some benefits of student self-assessment?
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Hey Marian!
#sblchat
In reply to @DingleTeach
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
(Also, hi everyone - Erin from WA state here.)
#sblchat
xakellis
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 Ss are less experienced than Ts, and will have lower proficiency at assessment. Do guide their thoughts and give feedback...
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Do adults...?
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Ss struggle with the difference between compliments and feedback.
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Or if they do it and it does not lead to learning experiences that are meaningful-can seem pointless
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 - If Learners haven't been expected to self-assess much previously, they may be unsure as to the how or the willingness.
#sblchat
KC_SEASportsFan
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I had an important one and ugh!!! Lol.
#SBLChat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Wait Mike ... I didn't tell you that we worked together? I bet that KUD talk makes more sense now! :)
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @garnet_hillman, @DegnerJoni
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 Initially, students may not feel comfortable doing it & may rate their understanding higher than it is. It takes time to develop
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Thrilled to welcome you, Marian!
#sblchat
In reply to @DingleTeach
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Making learning accessible for different abilities. The goal is the standard. The process varies.
#sblchat
.
In reply to @sarahjhemingway
hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4. It's a process. We teach learners to self-assess based on clear criteria. I do, we do, y'all do, you do works well
#sblchat
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I LOVE single-point rubrics.
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @KRScienceLady
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Welcome Marian!
#sblchat
In reply to @DingleTeach
MsSmithSTEM
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Ss don't know how to assess, questions to ask. May not have enough info to even know they don't understand the material
#sblchat
xakellis
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Yes, this makes it so much richer.
#sblchat
MsSmithSTEM
Apr 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3: Allows students to clearly identify their confusion and ask specific questions rather than the cliche "I don't get it."
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
And
@kirk_humphreys
is there with us too!
#sblchat
#engage109
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @garnet_hillman, @DegnerJoni, @kirk_humphreys
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Teachers can be the worst at this.
#sblchat
.
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Erin, Greetings!
#sblchat
In reply to @ogybuns
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Good point. We can't read the Ss minds... yet. Them reflecting is the next best thing...
#sblchat
AmerHistTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
#sblchat
Their self-assessment also provides great feedback for teacher as to how to improve instruction.
kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Yes, yes, yes.
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Be careful not to confuse self-assessment with self-evaluation. Verification of proficiency still owned by teachers
#sblchat
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
THIS THIS THIS. "Good job" reigns supreme with students.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Ss struggle with the difference between compliments and feedback.
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I know I have to do a better job helping Ss understand what proficient work looks like; they need to see many examples
#sblchat
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 Does anyone else find that some students just struggle to be self-aware enough for self-assessment?
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
This is my first time having the pleasure! So happy to be expanding my
#pln
on
#sblchat
tonight!
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @KatieBudrow, @garnet_hillman
MrMontrose311
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4 requires more work on FRONT end. Can feel discouraging AT FIRST especially for Ss with low skill and/or low will.
#sblchat
#growthmindset
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 What are some limitations of student self-assessment?
#sblchat
sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
yes - responses can vary from 'unworthiness' to 'I am a god!' Depending on the day and the kid. middle school
#sblchat
In reply to @ogybuns
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Let's
#STOPIT
with simply "Good Job"!
#sblchat
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
THIS THIS THIS. "Good job" reigns supreme with students.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Ss struggle with the difference between compliments and feedback.
#sblchat
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Can you please share more on this? Thanks.
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieWhite426
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: self-assessment isn't about self-scoring. It is embedded right inside the learning process and leads to growth
#sblchat
DingleTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#sblchat
I think it's a process like many other things. Beginning in elem I'm hoping that it's more natural by HS.
In reply to @ogybuns
rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4: Yes. I think it depends on grade level & how you model self-assessment for Ss. I teach 9-12 & maturity level plays a key role.
In reply to @ogybuns
kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
It's like a giant party!
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow, @MikeSzczepanik, @garnet_hillman, @DegnerJoni
xakellis
Apr 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Yes. Good feedback is hard, even for adults. Gotta teach them to be specific, constructive/helpful, and non-judgemental.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Ss struggle with the difference between compliments and feedback.
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Apr 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4 I'm not sure there are limitations to student self-assessment. Should provide next steps in learning & promote growth
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Yes, yes, yes again
#sblchat
kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Yes, yes, yes.
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Be careful not to confuse self-assessment with self-evaluation. Verification of proficiency still owned by teachers
#sblchat
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Gotta love those middle schoolers. If they're not ecstatic, they're crying. I really do love them, though.
#sblchat
In reply to @sarahjhemingway
BradyVenables
Apr 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: lots of untraining must happen for students (esp secondary) who aren't used to self assessment
#sblchat
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Yes. They need to see lots of sample work at very levels. Modeling and practice!
#sblchat
In reply to @rhonhigg, @ogybuns
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4. Classroom culture plays a role, too - do I regularly acknowledge risk taking & mistake making as a positive practice
#sblchat
DrMathena
Apr 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: Ss want to fix what's missing, and then give themselves credit. Some want a perfect score. Work in progress. Promotes redos.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I feel like we have had this conversation somewhere ...
#sblchat
#tg2
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4. Classroom culture plays a role, too - do I regularly acknowledge risk taking & mistake making as a positive practice
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 How can the process of self-assessment be taught to students?
#sblchat
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 Another limitation can be motivation - Ss have to CARE about their learning to see the point of self-assessment.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4: I find that it is hard to get kids to understand how to self-assess effectively.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Always a great day to be wrong!
#sblchat
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4. Classroom culture plays a role, too - do I regularly acknowledge risk taking & mistake making as a positive practice
#sblchat
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
What seems to always be our limitation...
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
me too!!!!! :) our middle school is grade 7-9 (Montessori thing)
#sblchat
In reply to @ogybuns
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5- Modeling, Scaffolding, Guiding
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 How can the process of self-assessment be taught to students?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
I need to work at this with our Learners...
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4: I find that it is hard to get kids to understand how to self-assess effectively.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 Before students self-assess the teacher must model what this looks like. Students do not inherently know how to do this.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 - Learners could start self-assessing by comparing their work to a piece of exemplary work or to a rubric.
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Self-assessment means looking for strengths/challenges while learning & planning next steps. Self-eval is Ss assigning a grade
#sblchat
In reply to @jtmehr
mrsprebble84
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: SLOWLY and with patience and respect for the fact that this too is still a skill they need to learn
#sblchat
xakellis
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Agreed. I'm so happy I found this group. These folks totally rock. I've learned so much.
#sblchat
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
This is my first time having the pleasure! So happy to be expanding my
#pln
on
#sblchat
tonight!
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @KatieBudrow, @garnet_hillman
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Aren't we all technically students? 🤓
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
It was something I was always working on.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5. I'm wondering about modeling self-assessment after a lesson - anyone have experiences in this to share?
#sblchat
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 I think it has to be recursive. Do, assess, do assess, do assess.
#itsallabouttheprocess
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: The most effective way I have found is modeling (but I am still learning here). Looking for suggestions.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Always learning...so yes!
#sblchat
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Aren't we all technically students? 🤓
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 Give students ample opportunity to practice self-assessment. Have them assess a sample of work before their own.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 - Learners could do peer-reviews and learn how to offer suggestions or areas of growth to a classmate.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 We use exemplars and match them to our rubrics (that we also build together) at the start of the year.
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4. Even better than "clear criteria," which can sometimes lead to algorithmic thinking. Best to inspire by goodness, truth, beauty
#sblchat
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
So would you consider evaluation to be more formal and have a finality to it?
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieWhite426
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A2: Model and give practice. Offer resources, as needed. The more they see it done well and practice it, the better they'll get.
#sblchat
rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
#sblchat
A5: It must continuously be modeled. Don't assume that Ss get it after modeling it 1 time.
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I love sharing with my students about what my thinking is - how do I want to see things and what I am or am not doing to get there
#sblchat
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5. I'm wondering about modeling self-assessment after a lesson - anyone have experiences in this to share?
#sblchat
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Model it, use student-friendly academic language so they know proper terminology. Use mentor text and exemplary work as models.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 Also, depends on the student. Some just need a quick run through. Others I sit with and we go over the processes, step by step.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
RT Q5 How can the process of self-assessment be taught to students?
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Model and give practice. Offer resources, as needed. The more they see it done well and practice it, the better they'll get.
#sblchat
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
It's great for Ss to compare efforts/work to criteria & determine where they are in learning but SA isn't about points, IMO
#sblchat
In reply to @jtmehr
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5. Sentence starters, prompts (with choice), and examples have worked well for me - allow for levels & choice
#sblchat
DingleTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
#sblchat
Important distinction for sure.
In reply to @KatieWhite426
MsSmithSTEM
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Ts model Qs to ask during instruction. Have Ss explain their thinking-leads to identifying & correcting thoughts w/ other Ss
#sblchat
ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Keep in mind that even when having Ss practice assessing exemplars/samples first, they'll always see their own work differently.
#sblchat
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Some more than others... like our
#sblchat
crew... 😎
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Let's
#MakeThinkingVisible
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I love sharing with my students about what my thinking is - how do I want to see things and what I am or am not doing to get there
#sblchat
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5. I'm wondering about modeling self-assessment after a lesson - anyone have experiences in this to share?
#sblchat
KC_SEASportsFan
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
YES!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 Before students self-assess the teacher must model what this looks like. Students do not inherently know how to do this.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
#alwayslearning
#sblchat
In reply to @MrOzarka, @RoweRikW
DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 Self-assessing is an EF skill. Since S's frontal lobes aren't fully developed, T's must loan theirs out. Model, tools & practice
#sblchat
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Fact!
#sblchat
In reply to @ogybuns
DrMathena
Apr 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5: T or S modeling. Conferencing as S self-assesses. Feedback, Feedback, Feedback! Shout out to FAME - FA for MD Educators!
#sblchat
DingleTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
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Hi 5 for fellow Montessorian.
In reply to @sarahjhemingway, @ogybuns
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Math Ts: wondering if you create your own exemplars for S work to help wih accuracy of SA? Or do you pull actual S work?
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DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Yes! Too many times I assume "they got this" after one time. Hey, I told them, right?
#stupidme
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rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
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A5: It must continuously be modeled. Don't assume that Ss get it after modeling it 1 time.
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Occurs at the end of learning and even "counts" in the grade. I don't see this as self-assessment
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MrMontrose311
Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5 after teaching the skills and target criteria, have Ss practice grading old work from Ss last year or peer work first.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 How can the process of self-assessment be taught to students?
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kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
I always pull actual work when I can.
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RESP3CTtheGAME
Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5 Ss learn to self-assess when included in creating rubrics, identifying proficiency, constructing models after Ts model
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Teach the S to self assess and let them try ... why they self -assess ... T models by assessing their lesson on self-assessment
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ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Sometimes I feel the need to borrow a frontal lobe, too!
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In reply to @DegnerJoni
KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
When we use tools such as KLEWS charts
@czem
we can scaffold student learning and help them understand better how to self assess
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Jacob, I prefer to use Ss work as exemplars! It encourages ownership!
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jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Math Ts: wondering if you create your own exemplars for S work to help wih accuracy of SA? Or do you pull actual S work?
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Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5 self-assessment should be modeled & then feedback should b provided as Ss practice as a group, w/ a partner & independently
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jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
I agree that SA is not about points, nothing should be. Wondering though if it is just feedback or if Ss try to scale themselves.
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ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Sorry - KLEWS charts?
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In reply to @KRScienceLady, @czem
ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Yes! Conferencing! 👏❤
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In reply to @DrMathena
MrMontrose311
Apr 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5 cont. They have to learn to teach, grade, and think like teachers just like we did
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jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Anonymous? Or maybe not with student's permission?
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In reply to @kirk_humphreys
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Studies show that when a grade is given - learning stops. Feedback and Feedback alone encourages growth
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AmerHistTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:50 PM EDT
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We have students do a combination of self-reflection by highlighting digital rubric and then writing reflection on learning
Erik_Youngman
Apr 26 @ 9:50 PM EDT
#differentiate
; what a concept:)
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KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 Also, depends on the student. Some just need a quick run through. Others I sit with and we go over the processes, step by step.
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MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Moreover, the goal is the students optimizing said standard to their best ability. Some more and some less. Both OK if 💯 effort.
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AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Making learning accessible for different abilities. The goal is the standard. The process varies.
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DingleTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:51 PM EDT
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Christie I bet you already do this naturally. For me, it can be in a read aloud in a close read or as I'm thinking thru a problem.
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sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:51 PM EDT
they think they're done once they have a number to slap on their work...
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @jtmehr, @KatieWhite426
kirk_humphreys
Apr 26 @ 9:51 PM EDT
I always ask the student and parent for permission then block out the name.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6 Share tools, templates, or examples of how self-assessment works in your classroom or school?
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rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
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Yes! Just finished action research project & conferencing was a key piece to help Ss grow & be responsible for their learning.
In reply to @ChristieNold, @DrMathena
MDeveau
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5 Promote self-eval. as a learning tool in classroom activities. Show how rubrics can be used as self-assessment formative tool.
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Absolutely - try giving students a paper back with only feedback and watch the learning
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In reply to @sarahjhemingway, @jtmehr, @KatieWhite426
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Last question for tonight!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6 Share tools, templates, or examples of how self-assessment works in your classroom or school?
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KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Unpack standards w Ss,then build with them characteristics of a proficient response,then Ss can look@ S work using characteristics
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KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
I think it doesn't have to be either/or & depends in the kid. Some will shut down using a scale and some love it
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DingleTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
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This sounds so good. Often easier to discuss with a peer. We're still growing in this area.
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RESP3CTtheGAME
Apr 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5 Have Ss compare rubric results or written feedback (easy with Gdocs) with teacher's early in the year to teach self-assessment
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 - We've yet to embark much on having our Learners do self-assessment, though anticipate the benefits.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 My students used the same feedback method that I used for them - SE2R from
@markbarnes19
Summarize, Explain, Redirect, Resubmit.
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:53 PM EDT
We've yet to do peer reviews in HS Math, but can visualize it happening.
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In reply to @DingleTeach
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:53 PM EDT
The only part I struggle with that is when I am working towards a goal when I SA I want to know where I am in relation to the goal.
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @sarahjhemingway, @KatieWhite426
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
RT Q6 Share tools, templates, or examples of how self-assessment works in your classroom or school?
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 My students journaled at the end of class to self-assess and reflect. They were short entries, but gave me a lot of insight!
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ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 Often use 1-pt rubrics & have Ss write their own assessment of their work before submitting to me.
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Student Blogging
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 My students journaled at the end of class to self-assess and reflect. They were short entries, but gave me a lot of insight!
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KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Plus, watch kids-how are they responding to feedback and self-assessment? Why are they responding that way? Stay curious
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @sarahjhemingway, @MikeSzczepanik, @jtmehr
DingleTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5 Be metacognitive in nonacademic areas as well. Once Ss see that it can be a natural thing, they may embrace it as well.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
The feedback tells where you are in relation to the goal.
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In reply to @jtmehr, @MikeSzczepanik, @sarahjhemingway, @KatieWhite426
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Practice opps with exemplar models for students to view, "I can" statements with next step options are my go-to options.
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AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Video of me doing portfolio conference with student.
https://t.co/uDkoOg8out
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sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
thankfully we don't do that at all for gr7/8s. Gr 9 is inspected :(
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In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @MikeSzczepanik, @jtmehr, @KatieWhite426
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
I have a couple other ones if you want to look at options...
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Interesting point. I actually did this better as a coach than as a teacher!!
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In reply to @DingleTeach
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
but does a grade tell you that or cap the learning?
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ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
SE2R is invaluable.
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In reply to @garnet_hillman, @markbarnes19
hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A5. By helping them encounter goodness, truth, and beauty in our disciplines. When Ss encounter these they desire to emulate them
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KC_SEASportsFan
Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Fun chiming into
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this evening!! Thanks
@garnet_hillman
&
@RoweRikW
!!
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Yes please!
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Feedback, criteria (co-constructed), modelling and exemplars clarify the goal. A good rubric (and some are bad) can help, too
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In reply to @jtmehr, @MikeSzczepanik, @sarahjhemingway
MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
I think the relationship needs to come before any feedback has its peak effectiveness. Trust has to be there.
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Studies show that when a grade is given - learning stops. Feedback and Feedback alone encourages growth
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In reply to @jtmehr, @KatieWhite426
RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
We've asked our Learners to indicate where they believe they are on a 1-4 continuum.
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ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 Often use 1-pt rubrics & have Ss write their own assessment of their work before submitting to me.
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DrMathena
Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: Library Media student-created rubric. Ss created eBook in Book Creator with poems from books and Epic. Then put in Seesaw.
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kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
As long as you realize it isn’t objective. All teacher responses are subjective.
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MrMontrose311
Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6 Tweeted this earlier today! Socratic seminar self assess with my chicken scratch feedback on the other side ;)
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Agreed, but feedback itself can help build that relationship if done right
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MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
I think the relationship needs to come before any feedback has its peak effectiveness. Trust has to be there.
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Studies show that when a grade is given - learning stops. Feedback and Feedback alone encourages growth
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rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Yes!
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Ss write reflections on their growth towards meeting standards & we use these in student led conferences. Very powerful.
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sarahjhemingway
Apr 26 @ 9:57 PM EDT
I guess you can frame it in a certain way, might help. If they can redo work?
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AmerHistTeach
Apr 26 @ 9:57 PM EDT
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I developed this for "Advanced Historians" doing independent project to use to self-reflect on skills
https://t.co/ab1TnwmGwZ
BradLatzke
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thx
@garnet_hillman
and
@RoweRikW
for putting together another quality
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MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
exactly - its the feedback look that is most important
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Totally agree - there is no way to be completely objective with feedback and grading.
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xakellis
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Hey guys, we built a new web page to explain SBG to parents. Would love feedback.
https://t.co/hZR0RWj3s7
Feel free to share.
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KRScienceLady
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
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https://t.co/gFnuBWKHoV
KLEWS
jtmehr
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
I don't give grades on it. Just the... if it was a summative assessment it would be a _. I don't think this caps learning .
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hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6. My students use
@Seesaw
to log artifact/evidence and self-assess (typed/audio) using wording from criteria or prior feedback
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Let's hear it for
@garnet_hillman
, our Driving Force of
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each week!!
garnet_hillman
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Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thanks so much everyone for a great chat! See you all next week.
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kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
I’m last tonight. Ditto.
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BradLatzke
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thx
@garnet_hillman
and
@RoweRikW
for putting together another quality
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rhonhigg
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
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This is awesome! I have audio of student led conferences to include in my research. Do you use the videos to model for students?
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ChristieNold
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6. Here is a self-reflection I created for a more "standard" assessment:
https://t.co/EQpl4e4XoR
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KatieWhite426
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Plus, there is a difference between us slapping a number on there and students self-assessing. Student-driven is the key here
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RoweRikW
Apr 26 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thank YOU, Brad!
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KatieBudrow
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks for another great one,
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! See you all next week!
DRich0696
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Back to planning for me - thanks
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peeps for a great hour. Thanks
@garnet_hillman
&
@RoweRikW
for the leadership.
MikeSzczepanik
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Loved this topic
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ogybuns
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Absolutely. Agree wholeheartedly. I teach ELA, so the idea of subjectivity is inherent.
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DrMathena
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6: Rubric created together projected. I leave it projected for class period. Ss take a photo, or use printed copy next class.
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kenoc7
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Meant “lazy”
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DegnerJoni
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you for a great chat!
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hhschiaravalli
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks for another great
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@RoweRikW
and
@garnet_hillman
!
MsSmithSTEM
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you for leading!
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MrOzarka
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
I think that's more along the lines of putting the "cart before the horse". Not efficient imo. Too much confirmation bias.
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RESP3CTtheGAME
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6 "Assess Yourself Before You Stress Yourself" session resources
https://t.co/8hhrdQ6Y9S
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AaronSBlackwel1
Apr 26 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks for a thought provoking chat. I appreciate all you do
@RoweRikW
and
@garnet_hillman
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