#K12talent Archive

#K12Talent chat is for K-12 HR professionals or any school leader interested in learning more about human capital leadership. Topics include: rewards/recognition, recruiting, hiring, interviewing, difficult employees.

Tuesday October 23, 2018
9:00 PM EDT

  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #K12Talent #edchat! This chat does not serve as legal advice. If you have legal questions, call your district legal counsel for advice.
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Today we are talking about school culture and #K12Talent
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    As #K12Talent leaders we all know the effects of positive school culture on student achievement and staff retention. How are you guiding school culture in the recruitment and training of your building leaders?
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Don’t forget to respond to our Qs by using A: and #K12Talent!
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Q1: Welcome! Thanks for joining us tonight. Please introduce yourself along with your position and location. #K12Talent
  • LaurieMCampbell Oct 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A1 #K12Talent Laurie Campbell, Assistant Superintendent for Human Resources, Oak Park Elementary School District 97
  • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A1 - Hello #K12Talent friends. My name is Dale Fisher. I'm the Assistant Superintendent for HR in Deerfield Public Schools District 109. #Engage109
  • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A1 Good Evening! My name is Josh Chambers. I am the Assistant Superintendent for HR for the Glenbard High School District outside of Chicago. #K12Talent @_IASPA_ #ILHRleaders @_AASPA_ #schoolculture
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A1: Kelly Coash-Johnson joining you tonight – Just finishing a book on “Leading a Culture of Service Excellence” and excited to make some connections with tonight’s topic. #K12Talent
  • LaurieMCampbell Oct 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A2: Culture is so important! If you do not have a strong culture for staff and students, learning cannot/will not happen. More than knowledge about culture is an ability to bring people together to shape it. #K12Talent
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Welcome Laurie! Thanks for joining us tonight #K12Talent
    In reply to @LaurieMCampbell
  • abbymbridges Oct 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1: Abby Bridges here. Campus Recruiter for Leander ISD just NW of Austin, TX. New to HR and hoping to learn from you talented folks! #K12Talent
  • KateHeynoski Oct 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1: Kate Heynoski, Director at Battelle for Kids on Columbus, OH #K12Talent
    In reply to @_AASPA_
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Q2: In #K12Talent, how important is knowledge and philosophy of school culture when recruiting building level leaders such as #principals?
  • drcarter29 Oct 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A:1 Hi everyone. Looking forward to tonight’s #k12talent chat. My name is Danielle Carter and I am the Director of HR & Communications @NSSEO_org.
  • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A2 - It's funny because I just answered this for another chat. My formula is Relationships + Relationships + Relationships + Time Invested = #Culturize. Hiring for your systems culture ensures that you have both a talented individual who is the RIGHT FIT for the job. #K12Talent
  • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A2 #schoolculture is very important when considering new leaders. We are either trying to maintain a positive culture or improve the existing culture. Leadership transitions are always an opportunity. #K12Talent #ILHRLeaders @_IASPA_
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Hey @KateHeynoski it is great to hear from you tonight! #K12Talent
    In reply to @KateHeynoski, @_AASPA_, @KateHeynoski
  • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Great to see you @KateHeynoski we met at the HR breakfast at @EdLeader21 in @wearephoenix #K12Talent
  • LaurieMCampbell Oct 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A3: We ask about evidence/examples of how culture was built. We double-down on this with the reference checks. #K12Talent
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Welcome! Thank you for chatting with us tonight #K12Talent
    In reply to @drcarter29, @NSSEO_org
  • abbymbridges Oct 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Agreed. We have to recruit leaders who understand the importance of and will take the time to learn the culture. #K12Talent
    In reply to @JRChambersD87, @_IASPA_
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Q3: When hiring building leadership, what questions do you ask in the interview process with regards to knowledge and philosophy of school culture? #K12Talent #principals
  • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A3 “Give me an example of how you have improved the culture of a team, group, or department that you have led.” “Tell me about a time when you started an initiative that was met with opposition from staff or students. What did you do?” #K12Talent #ILHRleaders @_IASPA_
  • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A3 - "What do you need to know about the school you'll be leading 100 days before, 10 days before, 10 days after, and 100 days after you start your role." Response needs to heavily focus on understanding the culture and the effect the leader has on that culture. #K12Talent
  • KateHeynoski Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A2. Ideally your culture is part of your recruitment strategy... another reason for people to want to be part of your organization. #K12Talent
  • JLiewehr Oct 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1: Hey #K12Talent friends, I’m a little late to the party, but ready for the fun. Jason Liewehr, Director of Personnel - Carrollton, Tx
  • jonbartelt Oct 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A3: Stick with the organizational core values - you can't go wrong. If your candidate's answers thematically align, you may have your leader. #K12Talent
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Love this interview question to see how an applicant views school culture! #K12Talent
    • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
      A3 - "What do you need to know about the school you'll be leading 100 days before, 10 days before, 10 days after, and 100 days after you start your role." Response needs to heavily focus on understanding the culture and the effect the leader has on that culture. #K12Talent
  • NWPA_Illinois Oct 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    #K12Talent #ILHRleaders
    • drcarter29 Oct 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
      A2. I would echo @DaleFisherEdD re: relationships and underscore the importance of trust and candor in a healthy culture. Fostering a culture of educators and leaders to engage in honest conversations equals #strongculture
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Very nice - Asking for examples is key - Love asking about how they deal with opposition #K12Talent
    • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
      A3 “Give me an example of how you have improved the culture of a team, group, or department that you have led.” “Tell me about a time when you started an initiative that was met with opposition from staff or students. What did you do?” #K12Talent #ILHRleaders @_IASPA_
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Q4: As a #K12Talent leader do you encourage or provide guidance to your #principals on how to assess school culture in their buildings?
  • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A4 - We employ an awesome system through @HUMANeX that uses a multitude of domains to measure culture over time. On a quest for the perfect dreambox of highly engaged and highly satisfied staff. All schools use the same tool and create improvement goals with the data. #K12Talent
  • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A4 Student, Parent, and Staff focus groups. Climate surveys. Spend time on the front end building trust so individuals will tell you the truth and not what they think you want to hear. #K12Talent #schoolclimate #ILHRleaders @_IASPA_ @_AASPA_
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    @DaleFisherEdD Is this your guy - It is a great book for #K12Talent
  • JLiewehr Oct 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2: philosophy of school culture is one of the most important factors when filling building level leader positions. Culture leads to engagement. Enagagement among the staff leads to student achievement. #k12talent
    In reply to @_AASPA_
  • jonbartelt Oct 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A4: We are using INSIGHTeX from our friends at @HUMANeX to give us feedback we can use for ongoing growth as an organization. I think the principals like it... #K12Talent
  • KateHeynoski Oct 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A4: Listen, listen, listen, and then listen some more. What are people saying, what are they not saying, and how are you encouraging them to open up to real dialogue? #K12Talent
  • LaurieMCampbell Oct 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A4: In Illinois we have the 5 Essentials Survey (developed by University of Chicago) to help school leaders assess school culture and climate https://t.co/Dy4LBShzfS. We set aside time for staff to complete and use the data. #K12Talent
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Q5: When training your #principals how much emphasis is given to teaching them about good school culture or your districts culture? #K12Talent
  • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A5 - If you come from a system where culture is bad, you learn to place a profound emphasis on the power of good culture. A focus on your climate everyday is the best approach to long-term cultural health for any new admin hire. #K12Talent
  • JLiewehr Oct 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A4: We’re leading an initiative right now by informally assessing culture among new hires to the campuses. Although it’s not all encompassing, it is allowing us to gather data, look for trends and share with campus and district leaders. #k12Talent
    In reply to @_AASPA_
  • jonbartelt Oct 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A5: Where do you want to work? To learn and grow? Can you model these conditions for staff and students? Model what you want to see. #K12Talent
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    It is amazing how your past experiences can change your outlook on things like #climate and #culture - Sometimes you didn't know how bad it was until you saw how great it could be #K12Talent
    • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A5 - If you come from a system where culture is bad, you learn to place a profound emphasis on the power of good culture. A focus on your climate everyday is the best approach to long-term cultural health for any new admin hire. #K12Talent
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Do tell - What kind of tool are you using to assess culture? (Survey?) Can I have it for @_AASPA_ #K12Talent
    • JLiewehr Oct 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      A4: We’re leading an initiative right now by informally assessing culture among new hires to the campuses. Although it’s not all encompassing, it is allowing us to gather data, look for trends and share with campus and district leaders. #k12Talent
      In reply to @_AASPA_
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Q6: How do you, as a #K12Talent leader, know if a building has a positive school culture? What measures do you use?
  • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A6 We are on the lookout for behaviors that signal a negative culture. Gossip, a lack of empathy, assuming negative intent, poor communication. And then we work to confront those behaviors. #K12Talent #ILHRleaders @_IASPA_ @_AASPA_
  • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A6 - Visit my response to Q4. Again, thank you to @HUMANeX for the quality of culture measuring tools they created. Game changers. #K12Talent
  • KateHeynoski Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Absolutely! Bad culture can drag down to performance of everyone and distract attention from students and the real work that needs to get done. #K12Talent
    • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A5 - If you come from a system where culture is bad, you learn to place a profound emphasis on the power of good culture. A focus on your climate everyday is the best approach to long-term cultural health for any new admin hire. #K12Talent
  • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Amen @DaleFisherEdD #K12Talent #beentheredonethat
    • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A5 - If you come from a system where culture is bad, you learn to place a profound emphasis on the power of good culture. A focus on your climate everyday is the best approach to long-term cultural health for any new admin hire. #K12Talent
  • JLiewehr Oct 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    I can’t take credit, my Personnel team is pretty awesome. Very informal. I may have the questions laying around here somewhere... #K12Talent
    In reply to @Coashjohnson, @_AASPA_
  • jonbartelt Oct 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A6: By the smiles, loud learning, collaboration, and energy (and that’s the teachers...you should see the students) #K12Talent
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Shameless plugs for some of our favorites - Did you know Brad Black with @HUMANeX is our keynote speaker for #HCLS in December? #K12Talent https://t.co/mjI69184pk
    In reply to @DaleFisherEdD, @HUMANeX, @HUMANeX
  • jonbartelt Oct 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Don't. Miss. This!!! #K12Talent
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Q7: Is school culture part of the evaluation process for your building leaders? How is it measured? #K12Talent #Principals
  • DaleFisherEdD Oct 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A7 - The Illinois Performance Standards for School Leaders has culture embedded throughout. https://t.co/xBxqPZBbZF Our eval tools take into account both student growth and performance against those standards. #K12Talent
  • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A7 Great idea! Currently we do not use climate/culture ratings as part of the evaluation process. #K12Talent #schoolclimate #ILHRleaders
  • KateHeynoski Oct 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A6: Behavior can send a lot of signals about culture. Are people dragging their feet to work each morning and rushing out at the end of each day or are they finding ways to support and help each other even if it means extending the day? #K12Talent
  • jonbartelt Oct 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A7: Yes, I suppose...but I think it’s more of an expectation than a measurable data point. #K12Talent
  • bcwhite Oct 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A1. Late to the game - but here! Brian White, HR, Kansas 😃 #K12Talent
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Q8: Is your district using any platform or service to measure school culture and building culture you would like to share? #K12Talent
  • jonbartelt Oct 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A8: See @SvetsThinkTank or Uncle @DaleFisherEdD for the details.... #K12Talent
  • KateHeynoski Oct 23 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Welcome! #k12talent
    In reply to @bcwhite
  • EmilyDouglasHC Oct 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A1. Emily, signing on fellow #K12Talent -ers.
  • EmilyDouglasHC Oct 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A8. We use the @Gallup Q12! We know many districts who use it as well!! #K12Talent
    In reply to @_AASPA_, @Gallup
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Q9. What resources can you share or any final words of wisdom you’d like to provide on school culture in #K12Talent?
  • LaurieMCampbell Oct 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    We also use the Illinois Performance Standards for school leaders Dale! #K12Talent
    In reply to @DaleFisherEdD
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    It's like your handouts all over again - A little late but always amazing - #K12Talent
    In reply to @EmilyDouglasHC
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    For more #K12HR & human capital resources join @_AASPA_ https://t.co/gYqAukSkQ8 #K12Talent
  • LaurieMCampbell Oct 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    #K12Talent Thank you @_AASPA_ Need to sign off!
  • EmilyDouglasHC Oct 23 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    This is not a good way to get your staff involved in your organization... #K12Talent
    In reply to @_AASPA_
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Thank you #K12Talent chat participants! See you on the next #edchat on November 13th.
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A9: One of the best #k12Talent #edchats - I laughed, I cried - I would like to thank the @_IASPA_ folks for their support and witty humor.
  • KateHeynoski Oct 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A7: I'm still having an argument with myself over whether I think including culture measures in a formal evaluation is a good idea. I'll keep you posted on who wins. #K12Talent
  • _AASPA_ - Moderator Oct 23 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Don’t forget to check out our upcoming events #BootCamp19 and #HCLS18 https://t.co/8xhl8X7Cqd #K12Talent!
  • JRChambersD87 Oct 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    A9 Thank you and props to @_AASPA_ and @Coashjohnson for the opportunity to learn from my peers across the country. #K12Talent ##ILHRLeaders Please follow @Mschroeder6 @DaleFisherEdD for our monthly #IASPAchat Next topic: Union Relations And #1moreThing #vote it is your right
  • EmilyDouglasHC Oct 23 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    A9. These types of behaviors should tell you something??! #K12Talent
    In reply to @_AASPA_
  • jonbartelt Oct 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Glad to see you here @EmilyDouglasHC #k12Talent
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    I would be interested in learning your thoughts on this Sensei #K12Talent
    In reply to @KateHeynoski
  • drcarter29 Oct 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A9: One of my biggest realizations in the first year ish in my role is the impact Central Office has on the district’s overall culture. Important to set a standard of positive climate/culture in our schools and set the expectation/tone as leaders. #k12talent
  • Coashjohnson Oct 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Agree 100% if you can set the standard and walk the walk - it won't happen #K12Talent
    • drcarter29 Oct 23 @ 9:53 PM EDT
      A9: One of my biggest realizations in the first year ish in my role is the impact Central Office has on the district’s overall culture. Important to set a standard of positive climate/culture in our schools and set the expectation/tone as leaders. #k12talent