#425chat Archive
This is a chat for football coaches to discuss the 4-2-5 defense on Thursday at 8PM CT
Thursday January 26, 2017
9:00 PM EST
participatechat
Jan 26 @ 9:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
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rmacblue
Jan 26 @ 9:00 PM EST
Ryan McCartney DC Seymour HS, IN Host of the Tuesday
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Coach_ZC
Jan 26 @ 9:01 PM EST
Zach Carlton - DC/DB's- Palmer Ridge HS, CO
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CoachGibson5
Jan 26 @ 9:01 PM EST
Marcus Gibson DC Jackson Ms
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 9:01 PM EST
Brandon Behnfeldt Delphos Jefferson HS OH
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coachrugs
Jan 26 @ 9:02 PM EST
Alex Rouggly - Jefferson High - Missouri- HC
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:02 PM EST
It is The Godfather of defensive football chats!
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rmacblue
Jan 26 @ 9:00 PM EST
Ryan McCartney DC Seymour HS, IN Host of the Tuesday
#swarmfbchat
and
https://t.co/oK0NPGV6WD
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thomps_03
Jan 26 @ 9:02 PM EST
Ryan Thompson HC, DC Ashland-Greenwood Ashland, NE
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:02 PM EST
CODY G PARK CITY, UT DC even front 2 high safety split field TGOG 2read Football Geek & Track Nerd
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coachdboucher
Jan 26 @ 9:02 PM EST
David Boucher, OLB coach, Royal Valley HS, KS
#RVFamily
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Coach_Palladino
Jan 26 @ 9:03 PM EST
Anthony Palladino. HC. Case high, MA
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:03 PM EST
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welcome coach!
dhan561
Jan 26 @ 9:01 PM EST
Donald Hanna Delray Beach Florida Village Academy
In reply to @Def425chat
CoachHays13
Jan 26 @ 9:03 PM EST
Daran Hays HBC North Marion High School Farmington WV
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jrmyhanson
Jan 26 @ 9:04 PM EST
Jeremy Hanson HC/OC Blair-Taylor, WI
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:04 PM EST
Jason Conley Ohio, Former DC/ DB coach waiting for Trump to create a job for me!! Lol
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Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:04 PM EST
Jacob Gill DB's @ Springdale HS (AR) ***Still waiting for OL downfield to be called***
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coachking85
Jan 26 @ 9:04 PM EST
Cody King DC Corsicana, TX
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:05 PM EST
Greg wallis Tuttle, okla
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CoachBakk
Jan 26 @ 9:05 PM EST
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D Bakken DC Fargo, ND
Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:06 PM EST
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In reply to @Def425chat
whouch03
Jan 26 @ 9:06 PM EST
Wade Houchin, Lincoln Christian HS, Lincoln NE, Special Teams Coordinator- Sam/Whip-Wide Receivers Coach
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In reply to @Def425chat
CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:06 PM EST
Tony Lambert Oneida Tn.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:07 PM EST
We will start momentarily! Continue the intros! Q1 is a couple minutes away! Be sure to use the
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for all responses!
vitale_sj34
Jan 26 @ 9:07 PM EST
Steve Vitale. OLB Waukesha West, WI
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CoachTWill22
Jan 26 @ 9:07 PM EST
Trevor Williams- DBs- South Forsyth HS, Ga.
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Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:07 PM EST
Never seen an OPI call I didn't love!
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In reply to @Def425chat
CoachTuell
Jan 26 @ 9:07 PM EST
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Gary Tuell Sapulpa OK, OC/OL
3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:08 PM EST
Richard Fong. DC. Oaks Christian. Southern California.
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 26 @ 9:08 PM EST
Mike Hancock - DC at Walnut Grove (GA)
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CoachTew
Jan 26 @ 9:08 PM EST
Jeramie Tew DC Sapulpa high school, Sapulpa, OK
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:09 PM EST
Q1: What do you think is the key to stopping RPOs?
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:09 PM EST
Some offensive guys sneaking in on a 425 chat tonight!! Stealing secrets.
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:10 PM EST
Cody Alexander CBs Coach - Lovejoy HS (TX) Author -
https://t.co/dmSOP6hmqQ
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rmacblue
Jan 26 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Making it "LOOK" like you're playing MAN - sometimes, alignment is all it takes!
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Coach_Palladino
Jan 26 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: determining where you want the ball to go and making it your strength
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: gotta make sure to take away their #1 threat!!
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atley_matthew
Jan 26 @ 9:10 PM EST
@Def425chat
Matthew Atley, Offensive & Defensive Line Coach, Jefferson R-7, Festus, MO
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In reply to @Def425chat
3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1. Mixing it up. Line stunts, cover 2 man. Disguise coverages. Stem the front.
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jrmyhanson
Jan 26 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1) Stopoi g RPO is like anything else, win at the LOS and assignment discipline from secondary
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 sound assignment football, force the action, don't show coverage early
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CoachTWill22
Jan 26 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: know who they read, who you must stop (who is their dude), disguise the coverage, and don't put players in conflict.
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coachrugs
Jan 26 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Coverage disguise has helped us a lot.
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coachdboucher
Jan 26 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: simple alignment rules, with player understanding on run/pass first assignment. Alignment & assignment always key.
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CoachHays13
Jan 26 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Great mix of man and zone coverage, keep them guessing!
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Coach_ZC
Jan 26 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Being multiple in pre-snap, winning 1st Dwn, clear rules for cov and fits, treat it like option.
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Pre-snap alignment. Make QB read post-snap. You can eliminate most passing RPOs by covering down over-hangs. Make'em earn it.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:09 PM EST
Q1: What do you think is the key to stopping RPOs?
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:12 PM EST
I'm in.... I'm sure my wife won't care to quit her job here in Cincy so I can coach some football!! Lol
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In reply to @CODY_GARDNER
Coach_A_Nowell
Jan 26 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1) Quick fitting force players from a 2 high presnap look
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jrmyhanson
Jan 26 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1) Winning on the LOS and assignment discipline at the 2nd and 3rd levels
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
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In reply to @kylej1997
Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
Multi pre/post snap pictures for O, Stunt/Blitz to cancel gaps/add a defender, win on 1st DN to get obvious D/D calls.
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In reply to @Def425chat
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
I'm all about disguise. Make a 14-18 year old kid beat ya! Don't have to beat the coach!
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In reply to @The_Coach_A
CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: ID the way they want to hit you and give them a blurred read on those plays. Formations alignment can help (Bear front)
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CoachTew
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: also keep them guessing.
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CoachTew
Jan 26 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: muddy the qb reads. Press man. Pressure. Giving different looks.
CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1) 3 card monty.....keep the trigger changing, so that the "read" can give different looks. And be willing to play even strength
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3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1. Let the LB's play the run and roll the safeties into the pass option. Bang the intendended WR, play the backside over the top
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1 cont take the R out quickly
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
I like to rep against our first team offense RPO package. Helps both sides.
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In reply to @Def425chat
Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:15 PM EST
Agreed. If you know the read to can make the picture look the same for the O while changing D responsibilities.
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In reply to @CoachTWill22
The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1: Don't think you have to play man to defeat RPOs. You have to understand both parts of the equation, How do they attack the air
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CoachPMA
Jan 26 @ 9:15 PM EST
The Puma Phillip Archuleta signing in, DL/LB coach I. Albuquerque, New Mexico. Previously college and high school!
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:15 PM EST
Great insight so far on Q1! Feel free to RT, Favorite, or quote any tweet with the
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 26 @ 9:16 PM EST
We tell our guys the same thing!
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In reply to @Def425chat, @The_Coach_A
CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:16 PM EST
Mix QB responsibilities , proper fits , tighten sec. regardless of man or zone. No wandering eyes!
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honeycutt_cody
Jan 26 @ 9:16 PM EST
take away the run by having gap responsibility and mix up coverages. Most rpo's happen very quickly. No deep shots.
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In reply to @Def425chat
Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:16 PM EST
Think this clip from Michigan State says a lot as well.
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In reply to @Def425chat
CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:16 PM EST
Having an O that runs it is huge. Helps you get reps and feel for it. That's most of the issue, is limited exposure
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 26 @ 9:13 PM EST
I like to rep against our first team offense RPO package. Helps both sides.
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In reply to @Def425chat
seanasu2000
Jan 26 @ 9:17 PM EST
Q1 First preparation then disguise coverages and try to take away there best 2 or 3
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:17 PM EST
great! Now it's time to go home! Just kidding!
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In reply to @Coach_JGill
The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1: & how they attack the ground. Pre-snap align. (cover downs) can eliminate most screen/X-hitch passes. Then force the opt read.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q2: What is more important, disguising pre-snap looks or post-snap responsibilities to stop RPOs?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q2 is posted!
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Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:19 PM EST
I blew it!
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In reply to @Def425chat
3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:19 PM EST
#425chat
We use quarters for safety run support. We'll roll from man free to 2 man and have the drop down S play the pass option.
In reply to @CoachTew
rmacblue
Jan 26 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: Pre-snap; forces the hand of the young QB - makes them want to eliminate an option before the snap if there is any doubt.
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CoachTWill22
Jan 26 @ 9:19 PM EST
don't have to, but it's good if they WANT to throw it. Especially if Q isn't a threat. 6 take run, 4 in man, 1 free.
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In reply to @The_Coach_A
The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:19 PM EST
Post-snap responsibilities. Use line movement to change the read & force the wk ball carrier to run the ball. Make'em Lt handed.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q2: What is more important, disguising pre-snap looks or post-snap responsibilities to stop RPOs?
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2 for us it post snap responsibility, teaching a tech is better then running around blind
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CoachTew
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: I think it's the marriage of both. Have to be able to give one look pre snap and a different look post. Confusion is key
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jrmyhanson
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2) Pre-snap is most important, if you disguise it right you can force them to go to your strength
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2)For us it is post snap. Pre snap should feel uniform, coach can help, post snap it's all on that kid.
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CoachHays13
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: we talk about playing hold-um not Indian poker! Never ever show your hand!
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coachrugs
Jan 26 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: Pre-Snap- Force the QB to make a decision that might not end up the way he wants.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
great points coaches!
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In reply to @CoachTWill22, @The_Coach_A
CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: Post snap responsibilities are most critical to prevent RPO but pre-snap disguises are there to improve chances of success
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CoachTWill22
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: Both. Find out what and WHEN they read and change looks. Always favor movement right after QB surveys the D.
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Coach_Palladino
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: pre snap. Making high school kids make decisions post snap is tough deal.
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2) make sure your kids know their post snap responsibility...want them playing fast and react
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CoachGibson5
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
A1) identify what part of the RPO you can live with and completely take it away! Stay in a base defense and rep it!
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
Yessir!
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CoachHarrell74
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
always more important to finish where you are supposed to be!
In reply to @Def425chat
CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:21 PM EST
Depends if coach is counting numbers/leverage pre-snap, or if truly in hands of QB
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Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:22 PM EST
Post. Still gotta play no matter what happens pre-snap. Getting off blocks/tackling are great stoppers vs any scheme.
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In reply to @Def425chat
CoachM_Hancock
Jan 26 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2) Pre-snap is on us coaches, post snap on players
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:23 PM EST
then you still have ball players in the right spot to react!
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In reply to @peters1162, @The_Coach_A
3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2.Between the 2,presnap disguise is preferred. Make them decide before the snap and make them predictable.
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:23 PM EST
If you handle the cover downs you keep your box integrity. The Saf's have to make the OLBs right, especially if 1 is a fold player.
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peters1162
Jan 26 @ 9:22 PM EST
@Def425chat
what if it is a fake RPO? Meaning run blocking with pass but predetermined by coach.
In reply to @The_Coach_A, @Def425chat
Coach_ZC
Jan 26 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: Think of pre-snap as the base to stopping it. Can eliminate an option with it based on alignment.
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: want execution of post snap RPO defense vs pre-snap disguise. Otherwise, good teams can still nail you
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2) is everyone saying the same thing right now?? Pre-snap one look but move post snap to different look??
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:25 PM EST
the Johns and Joes make the Xs and Os! We play with who we got!
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In reply to @whouch03
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:25 PM EST
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In reply to @CoachHarrell74
CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:25 PM EST
If anyone wants, I shot a quick 4min video on TGOG.
https://t.co/WQMIpUlCxD
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:26 PM EST
Q3: Which player is most often put in conflict with the RPOs within your defense? Backer? SS?
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:27 PM EST
We will give 2 high but play 1/4s match, rolled 3, 2read or solo all from the exact pre snap alignment.
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giveawayskoot
Jan 26 @ 9:27 PM EST
Hellooo :)
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(Def425chat)
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:17 PM EST
great! Now it's time to go home! Just kidding!
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In reply to @Coach_JGill
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:27 PM EST
Q3 is up! Keep sharing great insight with the coaching community!
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 26 @ 9:27 PM EST
@3anout
Are you the west coast version of me?
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#greatmindsthinkalike
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In reply to @3anout
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:27 PM EST
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In reply to @CoachHays13
rmacblue
Jan 26 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: We play ZERO; so..I suppose the Safety on #2 since they are usually a good athlete in space with space to boot off the los
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3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:28 PM EST
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Yes. We disguise and move around. Sometimes it's automatic depending on what groupings and formations we get
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whouch03
Jan 26 @ 9:28 PM EST
we are getting better with the cerebral end of things. We like the progress we are making. Always J &J over X&O's!
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In reply to @Def425chat
CoachTWill22
Jan 26 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: coaches in our region do a great job of reading multiple defenders, but the force player is the target of most RPOs.
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Coach_Palladino
Jan 26 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: backside LB or inserted safety
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3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:29 PM EST
#425chat
Could very well be!
In reply to @CoachM_Hancock
CoachM_Hancock
Jan 26 @ 9:29 PM EST
OLB for us since we bring them a good bit...use the term "blitz peel" to our guys
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:29 PM EST
A2 give your kids a chance, practice what you do best, we as coaches kno what we would do but most haven't been on field in yrs
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CoachTew
Jan 26 @ 9:29 PM EST
Q3: backer.
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3)If I can help it, my fold cutback player, try to avoid force defender. I want to slow play it. Make them give it & rally!
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3- mainly a stack team, but seemed like power read picked on our end in 425. Also our olb vs speed option.
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: Always a LB unless it is 20p. I want the sec to worry about the pass, & I can adj w/ them to create cover downs.
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coachrugs
Jan 26 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: Our force player seems to be the toughest. We ask the most out of our force player in our D, so I guess it's fitting!
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3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3.It seems as though it's the OLB who is put into conflict. I anticipate Offensive guys evolving past that for next year.
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honeycutt_cody
Jan 26 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3 in our defense our OLB is the one put in conflict the most.
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3: I would say probably LB/SS is probably #1, Deep safety #2. Either looking for quick hitters vs LB/SS or deep shot vs biting S
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3- sorry, RPO's seemed to go against our olb. Mainly saw zone read with bubble attached or bubble slant reading olb.
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:31 PM EST
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@JasonConley20
What formation did they pick on you?
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In reply to @JasonConley20
CoachHarrell74
Jan 26 @ 9:31 PM EST
still figuring this all out as I go
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In reply to @Def425chat
CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:31 PM EST
Depends on box integrity choice. 4-2,4-1, 43 apex?The overhang/invert resp. Alignment tight or wide?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:32 PM EST
no big deal! We are all learning tons!
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In reply to @CoachHarrell74
Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:33 PM EST
2x2 is either */WLB. 3x1 MLB/*. Expect to see a lot of Clemson Sweep/QB Counter variations w/ passes off it this year.
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In reply to @Def425chat
CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:33 PM EST
Now at WashMO, we read inside backer a ton, ran stick/spot route to his heels, off IZ & trap.
#nasty
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CoachTew
Jan 26 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: I should clarify. In 2x2 sets it's our OLB. In 3x1 sets it's our ILB
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:33 PM EST
Agree, each formation is different. Which is why you should formation your calls & teach the kids the way we see it.
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CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:31 PM EST
Depends on box integrity choice. 4-2,4-1, 43 apex?The overhang/invert resp. Alignment tight or wide?
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3 lbs that get caught in conflict to much if this happens to do this not this for most "fold" players
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whouch03
Jan 26 @ 9:34 PM EST
SS. Dude has to be so versatile! Easy to get sucked up and have #2 or #3 WR slip behind him. Any technique suggestions?
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In reply to @Def425chat
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:35 PM EST
Q4: With RPOs, do you try and dictate the read? Prefer runs or the throw? Why?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:35 PM EST
Great job through the first 3 questions! Onto Q4! It is up!
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:36 PM EST
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@whouch03
@Def425chat
Cover him down and make him fit support instead of primary support. I'm assuming the SS is your Ni (Sam).
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rmacblue
Jan 26 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: Heck yes! Go ahead and run the ball vs 7 in the box. All Day.
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CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4) Stop run first!
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CoachHarrell74
Jan 26 @ 9:36 PM EST
forgot the
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In reply to @Def425chat
Coach_Palladino
Jan 26 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: yes. Take away what they do best or make them play into our strengths.
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CoachTew
Jan 26 @ 9:36 PM EST
Guys that play 2 man against RPOs do u have safeties play run so everyone else can play man for pass??
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4) Run. Busted coverage equals points,
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3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:37 PM EST
#425chat
When we run zone, we pattern read and play match up zone. Like man within the zone.
In reply to @whouch03, @Def425chat
Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:37 PM EST
Always. If they're really reading it always try to force lesser of two evils based on their personnel.
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In reply to @Def425chat
The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:37 PM EST
I don't want throws into space (1on1). Keep it in the box & use line movement/str call to dictate ball carrier (weaker runner).
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:35 PM EST
Q4: With RPOs, do you try and dictate the read? Prefer runs or the throw? Why?
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coachrugs
Jan 26 @ 9:38 PM EST
A4: Yes. We're going to do our best to make the O run the football w/, how we match up.
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:38 PM EST
A4 I think we all prefer them to run #1 stop the run on everyone's big board
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whouch03
Jan 26 @ 9:38 PM EST
thanks!
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In reply to @The_Coach_A, @Def425chat
CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 9:38 PM EST
A4: if I could have my way, I want the ball handed off. The throws are the things that go for big. I can rally to a run, not a pass
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coachdboucher
Jan 26 @ 9:38 PM EST
A4: who is their most dangerous player, take him away. All things being equal, give the IZ,have leverage, culture provides pursuit
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:38 PM EST
Would be better to run a 4-Press & allow the OLBs to play run w/ the Saf's as fit support (correct the LBs fit).
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CoachTew
Jan 26 @ 9:36 PM EST
Guys that play 2 man against RPOs do u have safeties play run so everyone else can play man for pass??
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CoachTew
Jan 26 @ 9:38 PM EST
Q4: all depends on who's most dangerous with the ball. Do what we can to make sure he doesn't get ball.
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CoachTWill22
Jan 26 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4: varies based on personnel. Keep it out of the hands of their best guy.
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3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4. Stop the run first. Then, make them do what they don't want to do in given situations.
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CoachHarrell74
Jan 26 @ 9:39 PM EST
force the give for us we will always have an extra run fit in the box.
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CoachJoker54
Jan 26 @ 9:40 PM EST
@Def425chat
With regard to DL play: Aggressive/Penetrating or occupying OL LBs?
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:40 PM EST
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@JasonConley20
You can dictate the path of the DE by using an "UP" or "Hold" call to the wk DE to change responsibility.
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CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:40 PM EST
Down/distance always a factor ! Also field / boundary ...
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:40 PM EST
A4 still gotta throw and catch most of us don't get to recruit our kids keep it in front and rally
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Coach_ZC
Jan 26 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4: hand it off, keep it in the box where we can run to the ball.
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CoachJoker54
Jan 26 @ 9:41 PM EST
@The_Coach_A
With regard to DL play: Aggressive/Penetrating or occupying OL for LBs?
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honeycutt_cody
Jan 26 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4 we want the team to have only one read. Or muddy the read if we can. Don't give them the easy one.
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:41 PM EST
@whouch03
Always collision #2?? May slow him down along with throw off the WR pattern?
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whouch03
Jan 26 @ 9:34 PM EST
SS. Dude has to be so versatile! Easy to get sucked up and have #2 or #3 WR slip behind him. Any technique suggestions?
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12_MSL
Jan 26 @ 9:42 PM EST
As a offensive guy, listen to what
@The_Coach_A
is talking about. 2 things stop RPO's, QB's and Def front 4
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:42 PM EST
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@JasonConley20
If you are looking for resources check my Link Book out:
https://t.co/paAlSMPozA
| Write a new article every Fri.
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:44 PM EST
I like that!! Easy quick adjustment that's not confusing for your kids!!
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:44 PM EST
Both! TGOG!
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CoachJoker54
Jan 26 @ 9:41 PM EST
@The_Coach_A
With regard to DL play: Aggressive/Penetrating or occupying OL for LBs?
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:44 PM EST
Depends on str call. DE has the 3t he holds (QB). DE has the N he is aggresive to take the dive (can change w/ an Up call).
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CoachJoker54
Jan 26 @ 9:41 PM EST
@The_Coach_A
With regard to DL play: Aggressive/Penetrating or occupying OL for LBs?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:44 PM EST
Q5: How do you try and stay "ahead" of these offenses dictated by RPOs?
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CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:45 PM EST
I like aggressive DL movement read/block to expand or close and fit the backers ...
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:45 PM EST
Final Q has been posted!
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:45 PM EST
That's the point! Got to against the spread & tempo.
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:44 PM EST
I like that!! Easy quick adjustment that's not confusing for your kids!!
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rmacblue
Jan 26 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5: Film and Prep; Gotta get your kids to understand what you understand!
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:46 PM EST
A4- we played quite a few teams who did not throw well, so force them to throw. If a good passing team, force the run.
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3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5. Having an offense that moves the sticks and scores helps a lot.
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whouch03
Jan 26 @ 9:46 PM EST
@Def425chat
we do that and I like it. TBH didn't see a ton of RPO concepts last year. Expecting to see more
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:46 PM EST
A1) Nothing different, make them predictable.
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rmacblue
Jan 26 @ 9:46 PM EST
Atta Boy ZK
@CoachKelleyAHS
Nice job tonight.
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:47 PM EST
A4 change up in fits is good but you better ppl able to coach a diff tech and tag it for quick turn over don't be a marker guy..
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:47 PM EST
A4 cont...thst says just get up field
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CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:47 PM EST
We use Surf tech-Backside end. Let the air out , flat and square ... surf ! Gap exchange BSLb
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 26 @ 9:47 PM EST
A5: the best way to run defense is to the know the offense. Educate and find newest development of RPO and its philosophy
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3anout
Jan 26 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5. Players understanding RPO concepts is key. Getting ahead on first down helps: Put pressure on the OC. Make the QB wrong.
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:48 PM EST
Formation pressure calls & understand where your cover downs are & fold players. Understand who the Off is reading & change it!
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:44 PM EST
Q5: How do you try and stay "ahead" of these offenses dictated by RPOs?
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Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:48 PM EST
I usually start on Sunday by begging our OC to put up 50 so we don't really have to worry about it.
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:48 PM EST
will do. I looked at some of your match quarters ideas after the
#swarmfbchat
on Tuesday!! Very good stuff!!
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PigSkinCoach
Jan 26 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5 work tackling every day it's a 1on1 situation against variety of plays not just Rpo
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 26 @ 9:50 PM EST
Great job tonight coaches! Send in topic for next week! Always appreciate showing up and any shout outs!
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5: You have to force the read post-snap. Stay even & static until the ball is snapped. Plus, use bluffs to counteract check teams.
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:50 PM EST
Won a game 84-56, it wasn't sweet.
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Coach_JGill
Jan 26 @ 9:51 PM EST
If that doesn't work, tackle in space, win on 1st, no pre snap flags, get off on 3rd, - plays, & takeaways all help.
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CoachTLambert
Jan 26 @ 9:52 PM EST
At the end of the day, do what you do best, be sound, and play fast!
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5: Play with the cover downs & play underneath coverage to the bnd vs single-WR. Play w/ leverage & make the Off think.
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:52 PM EST
@CODY_GARDNER
is this a football chat or basketball?? 84-56?? Haha
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 26 @ 9:50 PM EST
Won a game 84-56, it wasn't sweet.
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:54 PM EST
Here's the link to the "Leverage the Boundary" article. Gotta have a bluff package.
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Link ::
https://t.co/EXxS5SkpPy
The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5: Play with the cover downs & play underneath coverage to the bnd vs single-WR. Play w/ leverage & make the Off think.
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coachdboucher
Jan 26 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5: in season rep A&A, tackling, film/scout, stop top plays. offseason=clinic up w/ staff to bounce ideas and be together as staff
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The_Coach_A
Jan 26 @ 9:56 PM EST
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@CoachBehnfeldt
@CoachJoker54
Agree. You have to teach them anchor points & the natural gap exchanges. It's opt football.
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All22ChalkTalk
Jan 26 @ 9:57 PM EST
@The_Coach_A
dropping ALOT of knowledge on
#425chat
Do yourself a favor and give him a follow
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JasonConley20
Jan 26 @ 9:58 PM EST
When you guys send calls in, do you have automatic checks for certain formations due to RPO's?
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