#edchatie Archive

Monday September 4, 2017
3:30 PM EDT
  • levdavidovic Sep 4 @ 3:30 PM EDT
    60 years ago #OTD The Little Rock Nine tried to go school. @nytimes report is still shocking https://t.co/mZnFATKkOy #edchatie #history
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 3:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to the first #edchatie of this academic year. Before we begin, please introduce yourself. Don’t forget to always include the hashtag
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:32 PM EDT
    Hi @fboss Struggling with the 1st cold of the term so don't know how long I'll last. Susan, Spanish teacher. #edchatie
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    Interested to get any tips/suggestions/pointers on the new JC MFL course as couldn't attend training during Ind. Action last term #edchatie
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    Hola. Spanish teacher tweeting from Dublin #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 3:34 PM EDT
    Claire, PP teacher from Cork. Not sure what this weeks topic means. What are we helping with?!? :) #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    Also some concern on part of MFL colleagues online as to how to "promote" own subjects so they are not the ones cut for wellbeing #edchatie
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    Hi Claire, MFL is Modern Foreign Languages, which are part of the new Junior Cycle from this year. #edchatie
    In reply to @clairenichan, @fboss
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:36 PM EDT
    Sandrine, French and Spanish teacher, Wexford #edchatie
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    It mentions Junior Cert/Cycle as well as Modern Foreign Languages (MFL) so we might be discussing both 😎 #edchatie
    In reply to @clairenichan
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    I knew the acronym but didn't realise your new course was starting this year as well.We're struggling to understand Irish course. #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy, @fboss
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    ASTI MFL teachers couldn't attend JC training so would be great to have any tips from people who DID attend :) #edchatie #mflire
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    On the topic - https://t.co/xb9DQWztBX #edchatie
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    Ahh, sorry I didn't realise there was a new MFL course. Madness to be teaching it without CPD. #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    Unsure of what department require re syllabi - one for all mfls or individual ones per language? #edchatie
  • evelynoconnor Sep 4 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    #edchatie Evelyn, English and French teacher, currently seconded to NCCA. Mostly lurking as putting small person to bed right now!
    In reply to @fboss
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    Yes, I was surprised to see new emphasis on oral skills mentioned though I had thought oral had been removed?? #confused #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    But you are in same boat, or could you attend training? #edchatie
    In reply to @clairenichan, @fboss
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    we are working as one in my school. French and German in 1st year. #edchatie
    In reply to @dennyisback
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 3:40 PM EDT
    Fred Boss, 2nd level Art Teacher, currently with @NCCAie - new Visual Art specification also launched today alongside MFL & Irish #edchatie
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:40 PM EDT
    Oral as is currently for Junior cycle will not be in it. But oral will be part of it. #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Also, yes madness but Science and Business (?) colleagues are worse off as they had no training, and are now into 2nd year of it #edchatie
    In reply to @clairenichan, @fboss
  • mwal77 Sep 4 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Mark Walshe, teacher of Spanish (and French on occasion), Dublin. One of two ASTI reps on the development group for MFL. #edchatie
  • GoStressbusterz Sep 4 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Sinéad 2nd level on secondment ... drifting in and out of homework with my 5th year son so excuse the distraction ! #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Very much in same boat. All we've figured out so far is lots more literature for 1st years.🙈Has Spanish an oral presentation? #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy, @fboss
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    We are keen to make it so in our school, just hadn't realised it was official! #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    I suggested this but other teachers did not see the use if we then required a subject specific plan too. #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    And English in Year 3 of it. I feel bad now that we didn't realise at the time how hard it was on them. #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy, @fboss
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 3:43 PM EDT
    Well for us the mean giving a presentation. Pity to see the oral removed. #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy, @sandrinepk
  • languagesdude Sep 4 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    Currently marking copies and catching up on some tech work from school so listening from afar ..! Hope it's a good one #edchatie
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    @JCforTeachers has a lot of info here -> https://t.co/kikmwolas9 and @NCCAie over at https://t.co/JRBqspeROp #edchatie
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    Very important document - the new specification - #french #spanish #german #italian https://t.co/1PkryKofBV #edchatie
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    #edchatie sorry to see traditional oral gone but think new approach will serve the students better - more authentic use
  • languagesdude Sep 4 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    students using eportfolios through onenote very useful and easy to use ..! Less copies to carry and can give feedback quicker #edchatie
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    page 20 - https://t.co/1PkryKofBV #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy
  • mwal77 Sep 4 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    Yes, despite what Bruton was announcing today, there is no oral in the linguistic sense of assessing vocab, pronun, struct, conv #edchatie
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    we have a commun one for the MFL department. #edchatie
    In reply to @dennyisback
  • Fergal_Boyle Sep 4 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    #edchatie Fergal 2nd level principal. Geography & History
    In reply to @fboss
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    more freedom too I think. #edchatie
    In reply to @dennyisback
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    Thank you @sandrinepk Have to say (not starting a moan) but I found the JC website quite unwieldy so that document is v helpful! #edchatie
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    We're well into tonight's discussion on the Modern Foreign Languages spec for Junior Cycle for this first #edchatie discussion of this year
  • evelynoconnor Sep 4 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    #edchatie that's incorrect Mark, there is an oral which will assess students skills at speaking the target language
    In reply to @mwal77
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    Is that in a one-one school? Are paper portfolios okay? #edchatie
    • languagesdude Sep 4 @ 3:45 PM EDT
      students using eportfolios through onenote very useful and easy to use ..! Less copies to carry and can give feedback quicker #edchatie
  • mwal77 Sep 4 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    Assessment guidelines still 'under development' according to Curriculum Online #edchatie
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    there is also samples made by practising teachers. For video ones you need your TC number. #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight's #edchatie discussion on MFL in Junior Cycle
    In reply to @Fergal_Boyle
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    Samples of JC MFL work available online https://t.co/oQA9bUeJEc Didn't see them when looking over the summer so that's great #edchatie
    • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:48 PM EDT
      there is also samples made by practising teachers. For video ones you need your TC number. #edchatie
      In reply to @susanleahy
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    Great thanks it's so helpful to know how other schools are approaching it! #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    A oral in which a student speaks to a teacher (like the LC) or a student presenting a pre-prepped presentation? #edchatie
    In reply to @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    Agreed! Less prescribed! Find it more thematic and culture based #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk
  • mwal77 Sep 4 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    The use of 'learning intentions' and 'success criteria' in the sample material is extremely mechanical, not sure was agreed to #edchatie
  • MCreateInnovate Sep 4 @ 3:54 PM EDT
    Calling artists, makers & educators! Expand your practice! Join us for a 2 day workshop https://t.co/2fySYT7iPc #edchatie #makered #learning
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 3:54 PM EDT
    You can find the examples of student work here -> https://t.co/bpLekdSBWe - will be helpful #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk, @susanleahy
  • jctMFL Sep 4 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    @jctmfl here. Here to help all MFL teachers. Lots of support at https://t.co/wYmMuUADjd #edchatie
  • Irishmarinelife Sep 4 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    Assessment task 10% of overall & part of it is ''discuss their experience of compiling a portfolio'', thats very meta #edchatie
  • mwal77 Sep 4 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    Should be noted that the ASTI, TUI and even some of the other bodies represented pushed for an official Oral but it was ruled out #edchatie
  • MCreateInnovate Sep 4 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    Calling artists, makers & educators! Expand your practice! Join us for a 2 day workshop https://t.co/2fySYSPHXE #edchatie #makered #learning
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight's #edchatie discussion on your very own #MFL
    In reply to @jctMFL
  • Irishmarinelife Sep 4 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    But keeping a portfolio is fun,we use shared Slides files in Google Drive, lots of scope for video, pictures etc. students like it #edchatie
  • lynam_kieran Sep 4 @ 3:58 PM EDT
    #LCbusiness #Unit5 interesting considering Snapchat have just taken over as the most popular social network for u-35's in Ireland #EdChatIE
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    I agree. they can see knowledge building up. They will be able to go back improve etc... it is a journey. #edchatie
    In reply to @Irishmarinelife
  • levdavidovic Sep 4 @ 4:00 PM EDT
    Counting Time Like People Count the Stars: amazing #poetry project with Honduran girls https://t.co/xoYU0qcgH6 via @Pardlo #edchatie
  • toirdealbhach Sep 4 @ 4:00 PM EDT
    Hi all, Toirdealbhach PP French and English. Re oral debate, every day is speaking day in MFL? #edchatie
    In reply to @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 4:01 PM EDT
    In a CEFL exam such as DELE you do an oral exam, not an interview with your classmate. #edchatie
    In reply to @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • GoStressbusterz Sep 4 @ 4:01 PM EDT
    Portfolios make that journey so visible for students ... and therefore easier to see improvement and also areas to work on #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk, @Irishmarinelife
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    We're halfway through tonight's discussion on Modern Foreign Languages in Junior Cycle looking at assessment and student examples #edchatie
  • mattsclaire Sep 4 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    Hi everybody! Late to the party. Claire - formally seconded to JCT MFL team #edchatie
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    Are new PME students receiving much training in college on new course? Would be helpful if they could give insight to schools #edchatie
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:03 PM EDT
    yes ! Even on the corridor! #edchatie
    In reply to @toirdealbhach, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • mattsclaire Sep 4 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    Hi everybody! Late to the party. Claire - formerly seconded to JCT MFL team #edchatie #edchatie
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:05 PM EDT
    I use dojo points as a motivator for using TL around the school! Works really well #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk, @toirdealbhach, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • toirdealbhach Sep 4 @ 4:05 PM EDT
    Et entre les profs aussi! Le bon exemple! #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 4:06 PM EDT
    Great idea! #edchatie Is the whole school using dojo or just your class?
    • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:05 PM EDT
      I use dojo points as a motivator for using TL around the school! Works really well #edchatie
      In reply to @sandrinepk, @toirdealbhach, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • GoStressbusterz Sep 4 @ 4:06 PM EDT
    Not that I'm aware of Mark -that would require everyone to use the same platform which wouldn't work for everyone's context (1/2) #edchatie
    In reply to @mwal77, @sandrinepk, @Irishmarinelife
  • toirdealbhach Sep 4 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    Dojo points like Edmodo idea? #edchatie
    In reply to @dennyisback, @sandrinepk, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • GoStressbusterz Sep 4 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    However there will be a pool of resources to support portfolio creation arising from #ats2020 project later this year (2/2) #edchatie
    In reply to @mwal77, @sandrinepk, @Irishmarinelife
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    Not a whole school approach, but a fair few teachers use it so the students are familiar. Even works with my 6th yr ol students #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    Okay interesting, I tried it once years ago but found it hard without buy-in from other teachers #edchatie
    In reply to @dennyisback
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    Class dojo - it's an online reward platform! Students love it and it's a great way of rewarding positive behaviour and practice #edchatie
    In reply to @toirdealbhach, @sandrinepk, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    A lot of schools have already made a decision on which online platform they will be on #edchatie
    In reply to @GoStressbusterz, @mwal77, @sandrinepk, @Irishmarinelife
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    hoping I will get more than 140 characters for their school reports. it is way to short to report on language learning. #edchatie
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    At the end of each week I will run through the points who is on top etc who got the most for tl use and they love it! Worth trying #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy
  • GoStressbusterz Sep 4 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    Yes- OneNote, Google and SeeSaw are ones that I have heard mentioned and I'm sure there are lots of others #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss, @mwal77, @sandrinepk, @Irishmarinelife
  • CuffeL Sep 4 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    #edchatie sitting back and listening in, I don't teach Modern Languages, Just english through Math 2 ESOL. Nothing modern there!
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    we have point on VSWare. I send postcards home. It has made great impact. #edchatie
    In reply to @dennyisback, @toirdealbhach, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:10 PM EDT
    We haven't expanded our vs ware use to this but hopefully it happens soon! #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk, @toirdealbhach, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77
  • toirdealbhach Sep 4 @ 4:11 PM EDT
    Very good. I'd recommend the @PDST_TechinEd MFL ICT course btw. Learned ALOT! https://t.co/CH7RvkRNmb #edchatie
    In reply to @dennyisback, @sandrinepk, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77, @PDST_TechinEd
  • CranaCollege_TY Sep 4 @ 4:11 PM EDT
    Transition Year started their Cube Project today, storage in style for all TY memories #edchatie https://t.co/NuMyRpWmP2 via @boyle_thomas
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:11 PM EDT
    for those interested in @seesaw to use for portfolio. I am blogging about my personal experience. https://t.co/c2dvJhHnhb #edchatie
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 4:11 PM EDT
    Have heard a lot about SeeSaw but have yet to see it #nopunintended #edchatie
    In reply to @GoStressbusterz, @mwal77, @sandrinepk, @Irishmarinelife
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    Sounds great Sandrine! #edchatie
  • toirdealbhach Sep 4 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    Hmm. I like this idea... @VSwareHQ #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk, @dennyisback, @evelynoconnor, @mwal77, @VSwareHQ
  • Irishmarinelife Sep 4 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    Teaching Science & Spanish in Mayo,assessments just around the corner in Science & not much info, common level exam worrying too #edchatie
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    Do students need access to individual tablets in order to properly use an online platform for their portfolio ? #edchatie
    In reply to @GoStressbusterz, @fboss, @mwal77, @sandrinepk, @Irishmarinelife
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:13 PM EDT
    it will be the good, the bad and the ugly! But after a few glitches, it is working out. #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 4:14 PM EDT
    And it's free? So far? #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk
  • languagesdude Sep 4 @ 4:15 PM EDT
    Found that connecting with different schools via eTwinning last year helped students practise their written more #edchatie
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 4:15 PM EDT
    You can share the "how to take part in an #edchatie discussion" poster with your colleagues https://t.co/elgPy8c00K
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:15 PM EDT
    not sure what you mean. teacher could have the e copies I guess. Is this what you mean? #edchatie
    In reply to @dennyisback, @GoStressbusterz, @fboss, @mwal77, @Irishmarinelife
  • toirdealbhach Sep 4 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    Fair point. For me the ability to communicate day-to-day trumps any formal assessment. Different emphasis, formative assessment #edchatie
    In reply to @mwal77, @sandrinepk, @evelynoconnor
  • mwal77 Sep 4 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    How many teachers are down to three classes now instead of four? #edchatie
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    yes and will always be free. there is a paid version but so far don't see how it would be useful to me or my students. but 1/2 #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    they are always developing and looking for feedback. 2/2 #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy
  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    Not us yet, but have heard concern expressed by others #edchatie
    In reply to @mwal77
  • GoStressbusterz Sep 4 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    Saw some work done in a school with parents having access to portfolio to see feedback and support learning #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:18 PM EDT
    Just that we have one computer room (with limited access), I love using ICT but couldn't incorporate student use each week #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk, @GoStressbusterz, @fboss, @mwal77, @Irishmarinelife
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:18 PM EDT
    we are. we went to 400 hours of well being straight. #edchatie
    In reply to @mwal77
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 4:18 PM EDT
    MFL lost a class period in my school. All the optional subjects did. #edchatie
    In reply to @susanleahy, @mwal77
  • miriambergin Sep 4 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    Miriam,I teach business, just re making contact with home, wondering does anyone use google classroom feature email guardian?? #edchatie
  • shffnn Sep 4 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    Stiofán, trainee teacher of German & History dabbling in French this year, experienced marker of JC HL German #edchatie. New JC in one gif.
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    I like the fact there is a family access. #edchatie
    In reply to @GoStressbusterz
  • clairenichan Sep 4 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    Whoa that's a lot of wellbeing. How many periods a week is that? #edchatie
    In reply to @sandrinepk, @mwal77
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    I think a survey of my 1st years to see what devices they have available to them is on the cards! #edchatie
    In reply to @Irishmarinelife, @GoStressbusterz, @fboss, @mwal77, @sandrinepk
  • languagesdude Sep 4 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    Find one note easier to use because students can download office for free with their emails and can download to their phones #edchatie
  • mwal77 Sep 4 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    Indeed, just as we feared. MFL losing out in new JC, already down to 3 periods in some cases, and common level exam, no oral...#edchatie
  • languagesdude Sep 4 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    Means that those who don't have tablets pcs etc , still can benefit #edchatie
  • dennyisback Sep 4 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    We haven't lost anything yet. #edchatie
    In reply to @clairenichan, @susanleahy, @mwal77
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:22 PM EDT
    1 tutor class, 1 SPHE, 1 CSPE, 2 PE for 1st years. #edchatie
    In reply to @clairenichan, @mwal77
  • sandrinepk Sep 4 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    Good idea. #edchatie
    In reply to @dennyisback, @Irishmarinelife, @GoStressbusterz, @fboss, @mwal77
  • mwal77 Sep 4 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    Anyone concerned re the samples of student work - looks like even the simplest tasks (I like sports) are to be bureaucratised... #edchatie
  • 0812Siobhan Sep 4 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    #edchatie
  • toirdealbhach Sep 4 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    It assesses their level in 2nd year. Also, I'm not sure that we can separate culture, confidence and linguistic ability in MFL. #edchatie
    In reply to @mwal77, @sandrinepk, @evelynoconnor
  • 0812Siobhan Sep 4 @ 4:25 PM EDT
    #lca #edchatie
  • GoStressbusterz Sep 4 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    Sorry everyone ... 🎻 violin practice calling chez nous ... thanks to @fboss & everyone for the chat as always Night night #edchatie
  • toirdealbhach Sep 4 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    No difference in allocation across the 3 years for us. 4 x 40 min classes. New spec, new approach. #jcreform #edchatie
    In reply to @mwal77
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    We're into the famous final five minutes of tonight's #edchatie discussion. Any last thought, questions or even solutions?
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  • susanleahy Sep 4 @ 4:27 PM EDT
    Thanks @fboss I have a lot of reading and study to do...thanks everyone for the tips and suggestions. Off to bed with me #edchatie
  • fboss Sep 4 @ 4:29 PM EDT
    The call for topic suggestions for next week's #edchatie discussion will appear on Weds, with voting starting on Friday night. We're back!