#resiliencechat Archive
Co-moderated by Dr. Robert Martinez and Sara Truebridge, #resiliencechat focuses on promoting resilience amongst educators and students.
Monday September 25, 2017
10:00 PM EDT
participatechat
Sep 25 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#resiliencechat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
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ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:01 PM EDT
#Resiliencechat
#tidbit
I have an idea to tackle a couple of big ideas tonight
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Anyone being resilient tonight?
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ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:02 PM EDT
This is Rob from Northern California here to moderate
#Resiliencechat
Hoping we get a few takers today!
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:03 PM EDT
#Resiliencechat
Please introduce yourself, and let's see where we go tonight.
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:03 PM EDT
I'm here, Rob
@ResiliencyGuy
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:03 PM EDT
I'll be a bit in and out. On the phone with my wife right now.
#ResilienceChat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Debbie from Chicago's NW side. Right off the Blue Line.
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ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Hi Deb!
#Resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:03 PM EDT
I'm here, Rob
@ResiliencyGuy
#resiliencechat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Hi Bill, Glad you checked in!
#Resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:03 PM EDT
I'll be a bit in and out. On the phone with my wife right now.
#ResilienceChat
LDJr_Mrs
Sep 25 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Hi folks-- Kirsten from the Bay Area, Ca. 2/3 grade combo teacher @ a fully inclusive school.
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:05 PM EDT
You caught me right between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.
#resiliencechat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:05 PM EDT
So much going on - So tonight's
#resiliencechat
topic is juggling a few things.
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Welcome Kirsten!
#resiliencechat
Great to have you here!
LDJr_Mrs
Sep 25 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Hi folks-- Kirsten from the Bay Area, Ca. 2/3 grade combo teacher @ a fully inclusive school.
#resiliencechat
Ms_Aija
Sep 25 @ 10:06 PM EDT
#resiliencechat
My name is Aija, I am a literacy coach in OUSD. What is the topic tonight?
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:07 PM EDT
#tidbit
#resiliencechat
#courageous
#leaders
#ignite
the
#dreams
of
#all
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:08 PM EDT
Q1
#resiliencechat
#Courage
- What comes to mind?
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Welcome Aija!
#Resiliencechat
@Ms_Aija
Ms_Aija
Sep 25 @ 10:06 PM EDT
#resiliencechat
My name is Aija, I am a literacy coach in OUSD. What is the topic tonight?
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1 My grandparents and all immigrants.
#resiliencechat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:11 PM EDT
I bet they had to endure and overcome some serious issues and events.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @MissShuganah
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A1 People who end up with Stage 4 cancer whether or not they survive.
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bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A1 Courage is so dependent on the individual and the situation, and it's so easy to project ourselves in someone's place.
#ResilienceChat
Ms_Aija
Sep 25 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A1 When I think of courage a parade of faces come to mind. Most of people who dared 2 resist N the face a great adversity.
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:12 PM EDT
I am pretty sure they did. The cossacks most likely.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @ResiliencyGuy
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A1 I think of people who sometimes fight against the tide,
#persevere
and
#overcome
#resiliencechat
Sometimes their words help!
LDJr_Mrs
Sep 25 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A1: Doing something afraid. That could be so many different things depending on the person.
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Some people might think I have courage. I just think I am doing what needs to be done.
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A1 Myself, I try to focus more on working to stay true to my best authentic self than being courageous per se.
#ResilienceChat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:15 PM EDT
That so completely echoes what I just said!
#BirdsOfAFeather
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:16 PM EDT
I think we tend to resonate with one another.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @bivey
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:16 PM EDT
We do. :-)
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:16 PM EDT
So true,
#Resiliencechat
The person might be
#silent
or
#loud
, be
#calm
or
#excited
. Courage could be both or all.
In reply to @bivey
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:18 PM EDT
Takes courage to act brave while you are really scared out of your mind.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @ResiliencyGuy, @bivey
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:18 PM EDT
Q2
#resiliencechat
Let's think
#FreedomofSpeech
- How has the concept formed your
#resilience
?
LDJr_Mrs
Sep 25 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Have to take a call. I'll be in and out for 30 min.
#resiliencechat
myassignment
Sep 25 @ 10:20 PM EDT
The Complete Guide to UK Car Driving Theory Test
https://t.co/Z8TN4t4GK0
#MexEdChat
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:20 PM EDT
A2 I went to the Women's March even though I was missing my BFF. Afraid to go, but knew I'd feel better if I went.
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Earlier this year I spoke in front of a group of people. I'd never done that before.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @ResiliencyGuy, @bivey
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:21 PM EDT
#Resiliencechat
A2 Personally, I think of my older brother, who raised his voice in the late 60's for
#chicanopower
in LA!
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:21 PM EDT
A2 I have always spoken for what I believed in.
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A2 I think freedom of speech has been the net below me as I walk the ragged edge between pushing too far and not far enough.
#ResilienceChat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Good for him. We need more people willing to do that.
#resiliencechat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:21 PM EDT
#Resiliencechat
A2 Personally, I think of my older brother, who raised his voice in the late 60's for
#chicanopower
in LA!
jfprovencher27
Sep 25 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Francois from bc Canada joining late
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A2 I think it all started in eighth grade when I called a bully a son of a bitch.
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jfprovencher27
Sep 25 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A2 I feel we have less and less of a voice
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ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q3
#resiliencechat
How do you think our students view the importance of
#freedomofspeech
? A
#right
?
#real
? For others?
jfprovencher27
Sep 25 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 they highly value it and they want to have a voice
#resiliencechat
massignmenthelp
Sep 25 @ 10:25 PM EDT
The Complete Guide to UK Car Driving Theory Test
https://t.co/skWVo4OBdl
#MexEdChat
#resiliencechat
AssignmentHelpN
Sep 25 @ 10:25 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/N8NF3byMeG
#MexEdChat
#resiliencechat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:25 PM EDT
Powerful prose Bill!
@bivey
#courageous
#Resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A2 I think freedom of speech has been the net below me as I walk the ragged edge between pushing too far and not far enough.
#ResilienceChat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A3 Our Kid Q stands up for herself. I'd like to see her stand up for others, too, but it's a start.
#resiliencechat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:26 PM EDT
How so?
#ResilienceChat
Please share
jfprovencher27
Sep 25 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A2 I feel we have less and less of a voice
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bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3 I think kids are acutely aware of the control many adults have and/or believe they have over their speech.
#ResilienceChat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Why does this not shock me?
#resiliencechat
#courageous
In reply to @MissShuganah
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3 I think kids are also acutely aware that they *should* have greater right to freedom of speech than is often the reality.
#ResilienceChat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:28 PM EDT
Because you know I am a loud mouth. Seriously, I don't think I could have done that when I was younger.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @ResiliencyGuy
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:29 PM EDT
I fear that some also believe they should say some things to please others - and have not found their voice yet.
#Resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3 I think kids are also acutely aware that they *should* have greater right to freedom of speech than is often the reality.
#ResilienceChat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:29 PM EDT
I agree, but I think it's more acceptable now than when I was a kid. (Seen but not heard.)
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3 I think kids are also acutely aware that they *should* have greater right to freedom of speech than is often the reality.
#ResilienceChat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Q4 Okay - tough question
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folks - is
#Freedomofspeech
#aliveandwell
or are we more
#intolerant
than ever?
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A3 I think we are much more open now to kids expressing their interests, needs, etc, and not in a tantrum kind of way.
#resiliencechat
jfprovencher27
Sep 25 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A4 i feel we are more polarize than ever however opposition can bring balance
#ResilienceChat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:32 PM EDT
In a school where our main goal is authentic best/true selves with authentic voices, I am acutely aware of this dynamic.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @ResiliencyGuy
aridolid
Sep 25 @ 10:32 PM EDT
I see you in that
#resiliencechat
😉
In reply to @Ms_Aija
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4
#FreedomOfSpeech
is alive and well. Less intolerant overall. We outnumber the bigots.
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4 I think more people than has been true in a while are dug in in support of freedom of speech. That said...
#ResilienceChat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4 ...I think many people have a tendency to think people who think differently than them are intolerant of *their* speech.
#ResilienceChat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:35 PM EDT
The day my avatar picture was taken, I was out protesting ICE. More ppl beeped in support than those telling us to shut up.
#resiliencechat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:36 PM EDT
I do worry that while many value
#freedomofspeech
#resiliencechat
there is a vibe of
#intolerance
from all sides at play - Thoughts?
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4 I've been told more times since the election than in my preceding 56 years that *all* liberals are intolerant. Okaaaay...
#ResilienceChat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:37 PM EDT
That's similar to my experience at BLM rallies in a nearby town. That said, that's also where I received my 1st Nazi salute.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:37 PM EDT
That's the tricky dilemma of freedom of speech. ACLU protecting free speech of neo-Nazis.
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4 ...I think many people have a tendency to think people who think differently than them are intolerant of *their* speech.
#ResilienceChat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Whoa. From a BLM activist? Or someone opposing them?
#resiliencechat
In reply to @bivey
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:39 PM EDT
All sides, yes. & many have a tendency to generalize from the intolerant if they disagree, from the tolerant if they agree.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @ResiliencyGuy
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:40 PM EDT
I just caught the movie Skokie starring Danny Kaye. He makes the point about standing up as opposed to hiding.
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Oh, no. Not a BLM activist at all! From a lovely fellow citizen who read us a white supremacist harangue b4 Nazi saluting.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Very thoughtful responses
@bivey
@MissShuganah
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Gee. How nice of him to share!
#resiliencechat
In reply to @bivey
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:41 PM EDT
I get thoughtful when the questions take me there. :-)
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @ResiliencyGuy, @MissShuganah
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:41 PM EDT
So sweet.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Q5
#resiliencechat
I appreciate the
#reflections
that are occurring. - Pushing the envelope tonight.
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Thanks. Easy to be thoughtful when it's on my mind. I like what Bill adds to the conversation.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @ResiliencyGuy, @bivey
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5 I always saw "Sticks and stones" as both a sometimes successful effort to shut down bullies and wishful thinking.
#ResilienceChat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:43 PM EDT
And you're taking me deeper, too. :-)
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah, @ResiliencyGuy
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A5 Sticks and stones is hogwash.
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A5 Goodness knows I still have scars from old word-inflicted wounds that are at times opened up w/at least equal pain.
#ResilienceChat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:45 PM EDT
lol. :-)
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A5 I am sure I have mentioned before that I was only six when I was accused of being a Christ killer. It sticks with you.
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A5 No longer hurts, but I will never forget that moment. And how I felt.
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A5 When you're an adult, it's different. But when you are a kid, that stays with you.
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:48 PM EDT
It does, especially when representative of one of the ugly (if fortunately not universal) strands of our culture.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:48 PM EDT
A5 When these girls implied I was crazy, that stuck with me, too. Those experiences made me the Miss Shuganah I am today.
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:49 PM EDT
And when the girl was only five. She was so angry and accusatory. Teaching hate so young.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @bivey
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:49 PM EDT
Q6
#resiliencechat
May be obvious, yet, what danger comes from
#bullying
others into one way of viewing
#freedomofspeech
?
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:50 PM EDT
SMH. Hopefully, she encountered other people who could counter that early teaching.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:50 PM EDT
A6 Check out all the NFL protests from yesterday. El Presidente tried to bully them. Instead they decided to
#TakeAKnee
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:51 PM EDT
A6 It rips at your soul and you become less than who you could be.
#ResilienceChat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:51 PM EDT
I hope so. But that kind of teaching is hard to shake off.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @bivey
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:53 PM EDT
Sitting here also discussing this with my son, and the fear of purposeful
#censorship
that is being used to quite voices.
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:50 PM EDT
A6 Check out all the NFL protests from yesterday. El Presidente tried to bully them. Instead they decided to
#TakeAKnee
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:53 PM EDT
Assuming you have a soul to begin with.
#resiliencechat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:51 PM EDT
A6 It rips at your soul and you become less than who you could be.
#ResilienceChat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:54 PM EDT
A6 You also shut off all opportunity for genuine conversation and the chance both to learn and to shift their thinking.
#ResilienceChat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Why we have to do our best not to silence even unpopular opinions.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @ResiliencyGuy
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:55 PM EDT
Ouch. Point taken, though I actually do believe we are all part of a universal soul, for lack of a better word.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Perhaps we are. How do we slap around those others who are part of that universal soul with us?
#resiliencechat
In reply to @bivey
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Q7
#resiliencechat
Can we teach or use the concept of
#tolerance
to help students, or
#acceptance
or what else?
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:57 PM EDT
I think some of us lose sight of that universal connection, or don't see it or perhaps even believe it exists.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:57 PM EDT
A7 Acceptance more than tolerance. Subtle difference, but acceptance is more active I think.
#resiliencechat
ResiliencyGuy
- Moderator
Sep 25 @ 10:58 PM EDT
#resiliencechat
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:58 PM EDT
And that is why they can justify racist statements and saying others are lesser beings.
#resiliencechat
In reply to @bivey
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:59 PM EDT
A7 I'm kind of done with tolerance, honestly. It's the bare minimum. And acceptance still centers power of decision.
#ResilienceChat
bivey
Sep 25 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Precisely.
#ResilienceChat
In reply to @MissShuganah
MissShuganah
Sep 25 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Thanks for tonight's
#resiliencechat
@ResiliencyGuy