#elmused Archive
A weekly elementary music Twitter chat.
Tuesday March 15, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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chat! Please introduce yourself: name/location/grade levels and what grade levels you teach recorder in!
4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Hi
#elmused
! Bring on the recorder conversation. Excited to join all of you tonight.
svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hey all! I'm Sarah from NC; I teach k-5 gen music. Looking forward to tonight! we start recorder in 4th, continue in 5th
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Scott, PreK-4 Music Teacher in NJ. I teach recorder in 3rd and 4th grade. Excited to learn from all of you tonight.
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Our chat follows a simple Q&A format. I’ll tweet out Q1 &you’ll respond with A1. Don’t forget to include
#elmused
in all your tweets!
Mr_ETweets
Mar 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT
I second that
@4BetterEducatio
!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@4BetterEducatio
Hi Scott! So glad you could join us!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@svitullomusic
Hi Sarah! Thanks again for writing the questions!
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mrsbrunacini
Mar 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT
I'm Kristen. I teach
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in NC. I teach recorders in 4th grade.
mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@4BetterEducatio
Where in NJ? I used to teach in Hamilton- went to Westminster Choir College!
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@WCCNJ
mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Thanks to
@svitullomusic
for writing this week’s questions!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@Mr_ETweets
@4BetterEducatio
Hi! Glad you’re joining us!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@mrsbrunacini
Hi Kristen! Nice to have you here!
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Happy to have my wonderfully talented and dedicated student teacher
@Mr_ETweets
join us tonight.
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
hey Molly! So glad to do it! I had some Twitter chat experts at my school give me suggestions for my first time
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Q1 coming up!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@4BetterEducatio
@Mr_ETweets
Awesome!! Get him into Twitter from the get-go! Love it!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@svitullomusic
Glad you had some help!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: How do you challenge Ss who are fast learners/who may already take lessons on a another instrument and are ahead?
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@Mr_ETweets
Jumped in w/ recorder instruction right from the beginning. Got to see the beginning of the process in 3rd & end in 4th
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Sorry all, haha- I’m Molly from Arlington, VA- Pre-5th Gr, I teach recorder in 3rd and 4th
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LJoEve
Mar 15 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi, all! Lani, K-5 vocal, teaching recorder on 4th and planning to move it to 3rd.
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
Thanks for continuing to link me on the invitation. Glad I can finally make a chat.
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: I’ve started my flipped classroom method this year, which has given more dedicated/high performing Ss a way to get ahead
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@4BetterEducatio
Of course! I enjoy inviting new music educators!
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
@WCCNJ
Hunterdon County, Flemington area
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@4BetterEducatio
Cool!
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
@Mr_ETweets
That was the plan. Lots of opportunities and experts to learn with here.
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LJoEve
Mar 15 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
how do you utilize the flipped classroom? It is something I am exploring.
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: let them work ahead on belts! Also working on getting them some more challenging music beyond the belts
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https://t.co/hqSEh2XM2w
mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: How do you challenge Ss who are fast learners/who may already take lessons on a another instrument and are ahead?
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@LJoEve
My Ss have iPads, so I make instructional videos that they can watch at home, then they can record/upload from home as well
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
A1: Compact curriculum & let them move ahead quickly. I had a 3rd grader last year work quickly through 4th gr curr.
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
A1: I also like to give accelerated students the opportunity to collaborate on duets and trios.
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Love it- music T w/ flipped classroom- can we do a separate
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chat on this?! Would love to learn more
https://t.co/tiBd0Y8iAy
mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: I’ve started my flipped classroom method this year, which has given more dedicated/high performing Ss a way to get ahead
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@LJoEve
I’m still SUPER new to it, so we’re figuring things out as we go along-some Ss are really using Google Classroom feedback
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LJoEve
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: supplementing more challenging songs with student choice.
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@svitullomusic
On it! I’ll try to find a good moderator on it for April!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q2 coming up!
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LJoEve
Mar 15 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I second this!!RT
@svitullomusic
: Love it- music T w/ flipped classroom- can we do a separate
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chat on this?!
Mr_ETweets
Mar 15 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
having students go down individualized "roads." everyone has different songs at different times
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1/2
svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@4BetterEducatio
@mspatricianhfb
ooh. I like the sound of that. Great collaboration for those who need a new challenge!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q2: How do you work with Ss who may be lower level learners or need more time?
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Hey
@Mwren13
we're talking recorder instruction in
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if you can make it? Highly recommend her as a follow for you guys.
emilyfetcho
Mar 15 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Hola amigos! Sorry I am late! :)
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Luckily flipping my class has allowed me to give Ss feedback in private comment&work on it in class- the others are independent
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@emilyfetcho
No worries, Emily! Nice to see ya!
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Mr_ETweets
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
2/2 more work for us, but it keeps all students appropriately challenged!
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@svitullomusic
@mspatricianhfb
Valuable for the to learn that while they excel individually making music engages group aesthetic.
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irvingmrslucas
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Sorry I'm late! Jenn from CT here, k-5 General, band, chorus. I do recorder in 3-5.
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@4BetterEducatio
@Mwren13
We’re old Twitter friends! Hi Marisa!
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We’ve even Skyped each other’s classes!
emilyfetcho
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Visual anchor charts to help lower readers, lots of modeling, strategic partner assignments, and one-on-one/small group work
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MrsPotterMusic
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Shelley from TX, K-5 music, recorders in 5th. This will only be my second year doing recorders, so I'm here to learn from you!
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@svitullomusic
@mspatricianhfb
I would like to learn more about this, as well.
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@irvingmrslucas
Hi Jenn!
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2:Ss to work @ their own pace-
#recorderkarate
helps.I've had Ss "draw" notes using iPads &/or draw fingering diagrams above notes
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@MrsPotterMusic
Hi Shelley! Great to have you here!
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@LJoEve
I agree on this. I try to offer multiple songs with each note to encourage metacognition & self assessment.
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
@Mwren13
Ahh, good to hear the two of you have connected.
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Mwren13
Mar 15 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@svitullomusic
@mspatricianhfb
I love the flipped model for recorder last yr. Sadly not enough tech this yr.
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: Ss work at their own pace-
#recorderkarate
helps. I've had Ss "draw" notes on iPads/draw fingering diagrams above the notes
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
A2: Provide more scaffolding, additional time and support to help them to feel successful.
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irvingmrslucas
Mar 15 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1 & 2 - we do centers every 4-5 weeks, so I get a chance to work with varied levels then. I'm trying recorder year round this year
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@MrsPotterMusic
I'm new at it too! Thx for joining. Refreshing to hear from everyone
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@svitullomusic
What app do you use to do that? Good idea! Might have Ss take a pic and use their WhiteBoard app to label notes!
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
A2: They move on when they show they are ready. Sometimes Ss need to play 3 songs before showing comp of a pitchset.
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LJoEve
Mar 15 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: I have also utilized centers to work one-one
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q3 coming up!
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irvingmrslucas
Mar 15 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1 & 2: we also do peer feedback/help, self paced recorder karate, and extra belts.
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
that sounds like a cool app to use! So far, we've done it in
@Seesaw
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(...answer to later chat question- ha!)
mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q3: What rubric/expectations do you follow to “pass” a song?
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
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Love that I am expanding my PLN tonight. Thank you to new followers. Honored!
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
#elmused
Love that I am expanding my PLN tonight. Thank you to new followers. Honored!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@svitullomusic
We aren’t allowed to use
@Seesaw
yet bc of privacy issues-our county took it off the iPads-waiting on parent consent
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
A3: The song is a tool to pass a certain pitchset for me. 1/2
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
@Seesaw
oh that's so sad! Our school uses it- only parents can see videos. Maybe the company can help?!
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LJoEve
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: I think of the recorder as a “tool” for reading music. While I aim for instrument tech it is truly note/symbol recognition.
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
Do they show accurate fingering, melodic comp, rhythmic comprehension, breath control needed to move on? 2/2
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: 4 main standards I've been using to pass each belt: rhythm, fingering, air usage(Blowing correctly)&covering holes all the way
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emilyfetcho
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: My rubrics include rhythm, correct fingerings, sound quality, correct notes. Broken into all/most/some/none of the time parts
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: They have to recorder it- correct rhythm/notes. They need to be able to play it through 3 times correctly-no squeaking/stopping
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: They have to record it- correct rhythm/notes. They need to be able to play it through 3 times correctly-no squeaking/stopping
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
Ahhh, practice not until you can play something correct but until you can not play it wrong.
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@4BetterEducatio
Yeah- it’s a rough concept, lol. Still working on the Ss fully understanding it
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q4 coming up!
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emilyfetcho
Mar 15 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@4BetterEducatio
@mspatricianhfb
A great skill to teach!
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svitullomusic
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
I think it's good to require 3xs-Maybe I should reconsider. Glad I'm not alone in "no squeaks"as well!
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q4: What incentives do you use to encourage progress for each step? What are your final incentives?
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irvingmrslucas
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: I have a rubric posted in my recorder corner. Correct fingers, rhythm, little or no squeaks, and tonguing are all important.
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@svitullomusic
@mspatricianhfb
Not alone at all. That is one of my standards.
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mspatricianhfb
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Ss earn a badge for ea/song, badges earn prizes-sticker for recorder, silly band&big ending prize (18 badges) is lunch with me!
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4BetterEducatio
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@mspatricianhfb
A4: I try to encourage intrinsic motivation.
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