#ATchat Archive
#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.
Wednesday February 10, 2016
8:00 PM EST
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to tonight's
#ATchat
. How is everyone tonight?
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:00 PM EST
Q1 Do you see the purpose of an "AT assessment" to determine IF a device is required or WHICH device is required?
#ATCHAT
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:02 PM EST
Please introduce yourself and tell us where you are from.
#ATchat
bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:03 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
Hi Karen and Joe- trying to multi-task- proving once again- I cannot!
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:03 PM EST
Karen from north of Boston. Just back from the high of
#ATIA16
.
#ATchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:03 PM EST
#ATChat
hello everyone Sharon
#ldtechnologist
in CT
MaggieP_AT
Feb 10 @ 8:03 PM EST
Hi! Maggie in Iowa
#atchat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:04 PM EST
Sorry
@karemjan
, got a bit punchy.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:04 PM EST
@bcdtech
@JoeBenamati
Welcome - I'm trying to multitask also - playing a family game of Catan
#ATchat
bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:04 PM EST
@iplante
Hi Sharon! Waiting every so patiently to get your book!
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:04 PM EST
#ATChat
a1: need to determine why, what and how for
#assistivetech
apply UDL principles when looking at student needs
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:05 PM EST
@MaggieP_AT
@iplante
Welcome - great to see you here tonight!
#ATchat
SarahNelson11
Feb 10 @ 8:05 PM EST
#ATChat
athat Sarah-SPED T from MN
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:05 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
We LOVE it. Play it all the time.
#SettlersofCatan
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:05 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
You are staying up late - great to see you joining
#ATchat
- remember to use the hashtag.
KerriHslp
Feb 10 @ 8:05 PM EST
Listening in from RI
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:05 PM EST
@bcdtech
yeah! Hope you find it helpful!
#atchat
bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:06 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
Yes- we cannot blindly throw tech at Ss or issues- match the tech needs to Ss and task Measure effectiveness
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:06 PM EST
@KarenJan
@MaggieP_AT
just home from PT conferences
#atchat
a big topic for me with the parents
SarahNelson11
Feb 10 @ 8:06 PM EST
#ATChat
A1: Good tool to back what tool and why the tool is needed in the IEP
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:06 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
Will you repost the first question?
#ATchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:07 PM EST
@KarenJan
@tjoshaughnessy
hello our new AT friend from "across the pond" are you really up at this hour?!
#atchat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:07 PM EST
Q1 Do you see the purpose of an "AT assessment" to determine IF a device is required or WHICH device is required?
#ATCHAT
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:07 PM EST
We are using the Q1/A1 format.
#ATchat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:08 PM EST
@iplante
@KarenJan
indeed, the buzz from ATIA hasnt worn off yet :)
#atchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:08 PM EST
#ATChat
tech needs to be part of an overall consideration of students needs and supports
SarahNelson11
Feb 10 @ 8:08 PM EST
@bcdtech
@iplante
@JoeBenamati
Agree!
#ATChat
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:09 PM EST
@KarenJan
me too,
#atia16
was awesome.
#ATChat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:09 PM EST
I guess I should have added "or both..."
#ATChat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1 Assessment is key, get it wrong and it can lead to a very frustrating process for both the assessor (s) and the student
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:10 PM EST
#ATChat
https://t.co/nw0mfRRug0
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:00 PM EST
Q1 Do you see the purpose of an "AT assessment" to determine IF a device is required or WHICH device is required?
#ATCHAT
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:10 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
Or it could have been open ended! :-)
#ATchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:10 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
@KarenJan
so glad to meet you in person Luis!
#aria16
#atchat
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:12 PM EST
@iplante
a1: absolutely, and always begin with the learner by presuming competence.
#ATChat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:12 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
Really enjoyed your ATIA preconference Luis, so much information in one sesssion
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:12 PM EST
#ATChat
Q1 rephrase: what is the purpose of an AT evaluation
#assistivetech
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1 I think the person posing the ?? wondered if the assessment would show the need, or if the need was already determined
#ATChat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:12 PM EST
... and the assessment was only to determine the device.
#ATChat
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:13 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
thanks. I had a good partner in
@ATforEducation
#atchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:13 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
I think you can encounter both those situations
#atchat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:14 PM EST
@KarenJan
Thanks, I'm up late alright, I was here for
#atchat
three weeks ago too
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:14 PM EST
A1 - I think it is esp. important for students with complex special needs, not necessary for Ss with SLDs.
#ATchat
https://t.co/kdm79c2JXu
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:12 PM EST
#ATChat
Q1 rephrase: what is the purpose of an AT evaluation
#assistivetech
DonnaWaldman
Feb 10 @ 8:14 PM EST
#atchat
Hi this is my first time participating in a twitter chat. What do you mean by an QIAT format?
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:15 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
But I didn't know where you were joining us from. What time is it for you?
#ATchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:15 PM EST
Assistive Technology: What Has Changed, What Has Not W/
@KarenJan
https://t.co/0ksSMH0kaN
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:15 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
Great to meet you at
#ATIA16
BTW!
#ATchat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:15 PM EST
So as a branch to Q1- Have you ever done an assessment (SETT) and found a student not in need of a device?
#ATChat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:15 PM EST
@KarenJan
1.15am
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:16 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
Impressed. What does AT Evaluation look like in Ireland?
#ATchat
https://t.co/Zfch0f2co0
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:15 PM EST
@KarenJan
1.15am
#ATChat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:17 PM EST
Q2 If an assessment determines IF a device is needed, is deciding WHICH part of the assessment, or does it have another name?
#ATCHAT
bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:17 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
I have found that a Ss did not need a device at all times- fine for ELA, but needed support for visual-spatial in math..
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:17 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
Yes, dedicated devices may not be necessary but software and other resources may be needed.
#ATchat
https://t.co/t5qr5rr6IN
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:15 PM EST
So as a branch to Q1- Have you ever done an assessment (SETT) and found a student not in need of a device?
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:18 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
Not sure what this question means. Could you rephrase?
#ATchat
https://t.co/V59SZobaip
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:17 PM EST
Q2 If an assessment determines IF a device is needed, is deciding WHICH part of the assessment, or does it have another name?
#ATCHAT
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:18 PM EST
@DonnaWaldman
when a Question is posed it is usually a Q with a number, respond A with the same number
#atchat
DonnaWaldman
Feb 10 @ 8:19 PM EST
#ATChat
I have done an assessment where a student did not need a device. They were more productive with standard classroom tools.
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:19 PM EST
For those who attended
#ATIA16
, what was the most important takeaway for you?
#ATchat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:20 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
A1 (branch) we only ran the SETT model in a project for high needs Ss, all needed a device
#ATChat
#notAlwaysTheCase
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:20 PM EST
#ATChat
a2: assess informally, teach Ss available basic tools and go from there based on T feedback, S feedback, and evals
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:20 PM EST
@DonnaWaldman
It is great to have you here tonight! We love
#ATchat
newbies!
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:20 PM EST
#atia16
Everyday
#edtech
can be
#assistivetech
#OGtech
#LDtech
https://t.co/5G38COB3VN
#atchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:21 PM EST
#ATIA16
takeaway was of upcoming writing tool from
@GeorgeMasonU
#ATChat
#edtechchat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:21 PM EST
breaking down the process into 2 parts. determining the need and determining what is needed.
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:21 PM EST
@iplante
This was a discussion at
#ATIA16
-when is
#edtech
Assistive tech?
#ATchat
https://t.co/nQ4dQlXmEi
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:20 PM EST
#atia16
Everyday
#edtech
can be
#assistivetech
#OGtech
#LDtech
https://t.co/5G38COB3VN
#atchat
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:21 PM EST
@KarenJan
@JoeBenamati
Also, let's not ignore low-tech options.
#atchat
bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:21 PM EST
@iplante
@GeorgeMasonU
Can you say more about this or give link?
#ATChat
MaryannFuduric
Feb 10 @ 8:22 PM EST
Sorry to pop in late! Can't believe I finally made one of these chats!
#ATChat
ShiftParadigm
Feb 10 @ 8:22 PM EST
Just posted -> THE SPECIAL PROJECT - The Heartland Series
https://t.co/HWEsEfCB41
#csk8
#ATChat
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:22 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
loved the
#atchat
we had last year with
@attipscast
about this.
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:22 PM EST
I found the research out of RERC fascinating as it relates to AAC. Emphasis on visual scene displays at
#ATIA16
.
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:23 PM EST
@DonnaWaldman
excellent. It's about what works for them.
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:23 PM EST
@MaryannFuduric
So great to see you again! How have you been?
#ATchat
https://t.co/kAFgP4o8eZ
MaryannFuduric
Feb 10 @ 8:22 PM EST
Sorry to pop in late! Can't believe I finally made one of these chats!
#ATChat
KerriHslp
Feb 10 @ 8:23 PM EST
Seems like assessment is a dynamic process, due to constant intro of new tools to toolbox & CR tasks that are always changing
#ATChat
kline_barb
Feb 10 @ 8:23 PM EST
@iplante
can you say more for those of us not at ATIA
#atchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:23 PM EST
@KarenJan
lines getting blurry which isn't a bad thing
#atchat
#edtechchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:24 PM EST
@deTechtive1
The question still hasn't been resolved. Is there one answer?
#ATchat
https://t.co/jHNiSHaeuS
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:22 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
loved the
#atchat
we had last year with
@attipscast
about this.
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:24 PM EST
@iplante
I agree, although AT is part of federal law and Ss have protections.
#ATchat
https://t.co/90rpjdoVfu
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:23 PM EST
@KarenJan
lines getting blurry which isn't a bad thing
#atchat
#edtechchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:24 PM EST
@bcdtech
@GeorgeMasonU
in works to iTunes as an app and then a Windows based tool, builds brainstorming & writing into one place
#atchat
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 10 @ 8:24 PM EST
For me- confirmation that
#augcomm
device differences are shrinking, providing more user choice.
#ATChat
#ATIA16
https://t.co/g0V3t5Tf73
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:19 PM EST
For those who attended
#ATIA16
, what was the most important takeaway for you?
#ATchat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:25 PM EST
Struggling to keep up with
#atchat
even with tweetdeck, I'll blame my tiredness, apologies to people I've not replied too
#playingCatchup
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:25 PM EST
@kline_barb
still in research and publishing phase but due soon to public they say!
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:25 PM EST
@VickiBostonSLP
Did you see TouchTalk, vendor in the hallway? Has some innovative features!
#ATchat
#ATIA16
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:25 PM EST
@KarenJan
What
@iplante
said
#atchat
. Lines blurring. Was in a
#PBL
group of diff. levels and all using text to speech some
#AT
some not
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:26 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
agreed. do you need an assessment for them?
#ATChat
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:26 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
#atchat
this is where care needs to be taken. correct.
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:26 PM EST
@KarenJan
You too Karen, such nice people and so informative
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:26 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
Not too worry - you can always catch the storify later.
#ATchat
https://t.co/Y3rEVDLMYI
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:25 PM EST
Struggling to keep up with
#atchat
even with tweetdeck, I'll blame my tiredness, apologies to people I've not replied too
#playingCatchup
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:26 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
a2: why separate the two? I like to look at the intersection instead.
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:26 PM EST
@KarenJan
yes very key we provide the
#Edtech
which is
#atchat
for students, it's so easy now a days we can't ignore the power
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:27 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
@iplante
Because too many Ss arent' getting what they need. They need the protections of IDEA
#ATchat
https://t.co/BXk1oXjJMn
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:26 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
a2: why separate the two? I like to look at the intersection instead.
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:27 PM EST
@deTechtive1
@KarenJan
of we can teach the now common place tools to ALL, then less stigma and can address specific needs from there
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:28 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
I agree with your point. Unfortunately, Ss don't have access to the tools they need.
#ATchat
https://t.co/BXk1oXjJMn
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:26 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
a2: why separate the two? I like to look at the intersection instead.
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:28 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
not yet they are working on it
#atchat
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 10 @ 8:29 PM EST
@KarenJan
yes! I'm very interested in trying that out once it releases.
@TotalTalkAAC
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:29 PM EST
@iplante
@eyeonaxs
@deTechtive1
Still not the reality for far too many students.
#ATchat
https://t.co/SwzXUlzqJJ
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:27 PM EST
@deTechtive1
@KarenJan
of we can teach the now common place tools to ALL, then less stigma and can address specific needs from there
#atchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:29 PM EST
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
which is so maddening because some tools at so easy to provide, or really to show in everyday tech
#atchat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
Q3 If an assessment is for determining WHICH device. What do we call the process of deciding who to assess?
#ATChat
kline_barb
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
@iplante
similarities to DeCoste tool? Or different?
#atchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
Using Technology to Engage Students With Learning Disabilities
https://t.co/ZtMr6vmYiO
#atchat
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
Agreed, but we also need to reach learners to advocate for themselves.
#atchat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
@KarenJan
a shortened informal version of SETT, we have nearly 700+ students so between assessment and its training a time issue too
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
#ATChat
it is maddening that TTS and STT are still out there ideas when they are built in to many tools for ALL to use
#atchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
#ATChat
it is maddening that TTS and STT are still out there ideas when they are built in to many tools for ALL to use
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
@iplante
@eyeonaxs
I agree. Reality is this-offered PD to sped Ts this week. Too many just learning G-docs.
#ATchat
https://t.co/J6iQplsBd5
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:29 PM EST
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
which is so maddening because some tools at so easy to provide, or really to show in everyday tech
#atchat
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:31 PM EST
A3
#atchat
Good teaching, teamwork, and reflection.
bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:31 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
Assess kids who are not making progress in grade level curr...
#ATChat
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:31 PM EST
Wishlist.
#amazon
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:31 PM EST
@iplante
So true - Ss use them on their own devices. May be denied their use in schools
#ATchat
#Edmalpractice
https://t.co/Ws5gAU4iQ2
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
#ATChat
it is maddening that TTS and STT are still out there ideas when they are built in to many tools for ALL to use
#atchat
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:31 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
I think it was you Karen who said - we should work ourselves out of a job.
#ATChat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:31 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
@KarenJan
@iplante
we don't, i wanted to see what others thought...
#ATChat
bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:32 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
@eyeonaxs
Is this where someone says "bably-steps"? Ss do not have time for baby steps!
#ATChat
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:32 PM EST
@iplante
#atchat
and that we all use them at time! Esp. in the car!
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:32 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
Yes! I always say it. Unfortunately, I've never been busier.
#ATchat
https://t.co/0Ij0xDz01M
eyeonaxs
Feb 10 @ 8:31 PM EST
@KarenJan
@iplante
I think it was you Karen who said - we should work ourselves out of a job.
#ATChat
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
#atchat
@eyeonaxs
holy crap Luis Hi! Did you change your @?
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
I would say that's fortunate for all those kiddos
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:33 PM EST
A3 - AT Consideration. When the team needs more information, they can request a consult or evaluation.
#ATchat
https://t.co/Yi4Bs7qRUr
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:30 PM EST
Q3 If an assessment is for determining WHICH device. What do we call the process of deciding who to assess?
#ATChat
DonnaWaldman
Feb 10 @ 8:34 PM EST
#ATChat
Q3 A- Assess students who are not succeeding with classroom technologies. Those that need more support for success.
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:34 PM EST
A3 For us its usually the S's are part of our registration process so its automated, for external - mostly referrals (teachers etc.)
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:34 PM EST
@iplante
Thanks but I'd rather the Ss became the experts and showed each other and the Ts. I love my job but...so far to go!
#ATchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:35 PM EST
Evaluating Chromebooks As an Assistive Device w/
@mmatp
https://t.co/bVwtWqZGt2
#atchat
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
@swolf14
#atchat
https://t.co/iD6XMqRTb1
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:35 PM EST
Evaluating Chromebooks As an Assistive Device w/
@mmatp
https://t.co/bVwtWqZGt2
#atchat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
@KarenJan
that's what I think the question was getting at. I have people who want an assessment done so they can coincided.
#ATChat
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 10 @ 8:36 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
an OT I used to work w/ started a self-advocacy group for her students. Taught what was out there & how to ask. Powerful.
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
@MaryannFuduric
@iplante
Yes!It's hard for Ss to advocate-they are dependent upon the T for grade.
#ATchat
https://t.co/BT8VwAdoE9
MaryannFuduric
Feb 10 @ 8:32 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
@KarenJan
@iplante
this is a great idea but so hard to do.
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:38 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
@MaryannFuduric
@iplante
STudents are at a disadvantage.
#ATchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
@KarenJan
I so agree, when I show 1 S a tool and they spread the love, that makes all the difference
#atchat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
@KarenJan
coincided? what do you mean by that?
#ATChat
JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:39 PM EST
There's not just one right method here. Unfortunately, there seem to be wrong ones...
#ATChat
MaryannFuduric
Feb 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
@iplante
@mmatp
love the chrome books for AT.
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
Whose responsibility is it for a Student on an IEP to have access to the tech they need?
#ATchat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
@iplante
Cool, thanks Sharon
#ATChat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
A Four-Pronged Model for Matching
#EdTech
Tools to Student Needs w/
@assistivetek
https://t.co/HeNbmFZyv6
#atchat
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
#ATChat
sadly in a place that should "get it" still a road less traveled of understanding
bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
@KarenJan
Needs to be clarified in AT implementation plan or no one is responsible!
#ATChat
MaryannFuduric
Feb 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
@KarenJan
here if it's written in the psych assessment it goes into iep and it's a dept that handles scheduling the training
#ATChat
tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
Look forward to listening to this
#ATChat
https://t.co/mb8DADcci5
iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
A Four-Pronged Model for Matching
#EdTech
Tools to Student Needs w/
@assistivetek
https://t.co/HeNbmFZyv6
#atchat
thetherapygal
Feb 10 @ 8:42 PM EST
A3
#atchat
Consideration process :)
#imlate
#noob
VickiBostonSLP
Feb 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
@eyeonaxs
especially b/c once they get out of K12, they need to know how to ask. Onus is all on them.
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Feb 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
@bcdtech
Who develops the AT Implementation Plan? Is it a team process? Does it happen at the IEP meeting?
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bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:41 PM EST
@KarenJan
Needs to be clarified in AT implementation plan or no one is responsible!
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:43 PM EST
@KarenJan
depends on the system, but always someone from the school system.
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bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:44 PM EST
@KarenJan
This is new at my school. I borrowed and adapted a form. I use it with the IEP liasion, usually after IEP.
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KerriHslp
Feb 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
@bcdtech
@KarenJan
Can you share?
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SarahNelson11
Feb 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
@MaryannFuduric
@KarenJan
how do you make sure it's part of the eval process?
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
my computer can't keep up tonight...
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:45 PM EST
The AT Consultation or Evaluation identifies what is needed. Too often it breaks down at implementation. Need ownership.
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:46 PM EST
Q4 What then, is the difference between an AT assessment and AT Evaluation?
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deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:46 PM EST
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retention of staff is our biggest fight. One day on board next day new job. Hurts teamwork, morale, knowledge base. Def. a chall.
KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:46 PM EST
@SarahNelson11
@MaryannFuduric
I attach a sample AT Implementation Plan Form to all my AT Evals.
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bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:46 PM EST
@KerriHslp
@KarenJan
This is what I adapted our plan from
https://t.co/gxaOsESUrI
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KerriHslp
Feb 10 @ 8:47 PM EST
@KarenJan
@SarahNelson11
@MaryannFuduric
Would you be able to share?
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tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:47 PM EST
Ireland doesn't have AT specialist working with schools, as a result Im doing research to highlight current teacher knowledge of AT
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MaryannFuduric
Feb 10 @ 8:48 PM EST
@KarenJan
it's not specific here. All SS get the exact same tools and training
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SarahNelson11
Feb 10 @ 8:48 PM EST
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@MaryannFuduric
I like that! Nto do more of that for our Evans-also need to look at using SETat and uPAR and get SS using
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:48 PM EST
@KerriHslp
@SarahNelson11
@MaryannFuduric
Mine is also adapted from that form. I've simplified it.
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:48 PM EST
A4 - i think they are interchangeable terms.
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tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
Did i Miss Q4?
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bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:49 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
I see a difference betwn eval/assessment and consult though
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MaryannFuduric
Feb 10 @ 8:50 PM EST
I should have said for high incidence disabilities
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:50 PM EST
Q5 Can either be done by an individual, or is a team required?
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:50 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
Here it is.
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:46 PM EST
Q4 What then, is the difference between an AT assessment and AT Evaluation?
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deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:50 PM EST
A4 I've heard them interchanged. As long as they are repeated and not just one and done.
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
@MaryannFuduric
Is it working? Are Ss getting what they need?
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SarahNelson11
Feb 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
@bcdtech
@KarenJan
Thank you!
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
A4 At one time I was told that one required a group and one didn't. Can't remember which was which.
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:52 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
That's not in the law - it was probably a district policy.
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:51 PM EST
A4 At one time I was told that one required a group and one didn't. Can't remember which was which.
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tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
Q5 Ive done them as a team and as an individual - interesting the differences (views) that show up. Are two heads better than one?
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MaryannFuduric
Feb 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
@KarenJan
yes - I think so. Training can be tailored to their specific needs which makes the difference.
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DonnaWaldman
Feb 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
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Q4 A Assessment is a view of what the students needs are - continuous and open ended. An Evaluation is more of a one time deal.
deTechtive1
Feb 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
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thanks for a good chat. Glad to pop in. TY for the resources share tonight and from those of you that were at
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:54 PM EST
@KarenJan
Yeah, I think they might have been referring to Webster's opinion
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thetherapygal
Feb 10 @ 8:54 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
ISBE does indicate TEAM and not one individual
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:54 PM EST
@DonnaWaldman
I see that as more of the difference between consultation and evaluation/assessment.
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DonnaWaldman
Feb 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
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Q4 A Assessment is a view of what the students needs are - continuous and open ended. An Evaluation is more of a one time deal.
DonnaWaldman
Feb 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
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Q4 A Virgina has a framework for the AT process and references AT assessment and AT Evaluaion
KerriHslp
Feb 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
This is great!
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iplante
Feb 10 @ 8:40 PM EST
A Four-Pronged Model for Matching
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Tools to Student Needs w/
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:55 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
Would love to do a team AT eval - more minds collaborating. Might lead to better results.
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tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:53 PM EST
Q5 Ive done them as a team and as an individual - interesting the differences (views) that show up. Are two heads better than one?
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:56 PM EST
Q5 personally, I think it's almost always better to have a team approach. But some areas don't have that luxury.
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:56 PM EST
@DonnaWaldman
Do you have a link?
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VickiBostonSLP
Feb 10 @ 8:56 PM EST
@tjoshaughnessy
I much prefer the team approach to balance areas of consideration.
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:57 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
@VickiBostonSLP
@tjoshaughnessy
How can we promote team AT Evaluations?
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tdcraw
Feb 10 @ 8:57 PM EST
I missed
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tonight, sad but will enjoy the recap.
MaryannFuduric
Feb 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
@JoeBenamati
who is part of the team?
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
@KarenJan
@VickiBostonSLP
@tjoshaughnessy
by giving them ownership. also help with implementation.
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
@tdcraw
Hello!
@mmatp
will post the storify - look for the link
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bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:58 PM EST
@KarenJan
@VickiBostonSLP
@tjoshaughnessy
Have all members of the IEP team know the AT tools for thier piece.. SLP, OT, etc
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tjoshaughnessy
Feb 10 @ 8:59 PM EST
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@JoeBenamati
@VickiBostonSLP
For us its the logistics and sometimes money, parents, teachers, specialists are busy people
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KarenJan
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Feb 10 @ 8:59 PM EST
@DonnaWaldman
@tjoshaughnessy
Thanks for sharing the link!
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DonnaWaldman
Feb 10 @ 8:57 PM EST
@KarenJan
Why yes I do
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bcdtech
Feb 10 @ 8:59 PM EST
@KarenJan
@VickiBostonSLP
@tjoshaughnessy
Have all members of the IEP team know the AT tools for their piece.. SLP, OT, etc
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JoeBenamati
Feb 10 @ 8:59 PM EST
@MaryannFuduric
I onceto refer to 'AT TEAMs' as "IEP teams without the administrators and lawyers."
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