#nhed Archive
An chat run by New Hampshire educators.
Sunday April 24, 2016
7:00 PM EDT
edubabbIe
Apr 24 @ 7:00 PM EDT
A procedure for EIs, and acts of consciousness.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:00 PM EDT
Tonight
#NHed
celebrates the 30th anniversary of
#TheBreakfastClub
& considers how we reach our Ss today.
https://t.co/U8VFe7p4Uh
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:01 PM EDT
#NHed
Beyond academics & athletics, what other opportunities currently exist for our Ss to find their own path?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:02 PM EDT
#NHed
Do we support our introverts as well as our extroverts? We'll explore these questions and more in tonight's chat.
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:03 PM EDT
Tonight’s
#NHed
chat will be archived & it and past chats can be found at:
https://t.co/MPBxsHCq8K
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:03 PM EDT
As a teacher of some of the most maginalized outliers in
#sped
, I'm excited for tonight's
#NHed
#iechat
#lidchat
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:04 PM EDT
I'm your
#nhed
host & Chief Edu-Imagineer, John Martin out of beautiful Sandwich, NH.
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:05 PM EDT
Who are the rebels, rascals, rogues & renegades who have joined in on our
#NHed
chat this evening?
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:05 PM EDT
Good evening! I'm Merri and ready for tonight's
#NHed
chat
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:06 PM EDT
To get you ready for tonight's
#NHed
chat, here is one of my fav songs from
#TheBreakfastClub
https://t.co/Yy1kMeep4k
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:08 PM EDT
@edventures
Nick S. here. History Ed major at SNHU.
#NHed
#edu235
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:09 PM EDT
The extroverts demand more of our attention.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:09 PM EDT
.
@nickedu235
Welcome aboard Nick!
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:10 PM EDT
#NHed
Q1: Are our students running towards school, or away from it?
https://t.co/d5nuVCptiS
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:12 PM EDT
A1. Balancing engagement when Ss are used to low/lack of demand is hard - school gets less fun when it's not easy games all day.
#nhed
cybraryman1
Apr 24 @ 7:13 PM EDT
A1 Can't blame students running away with all the tests & too much time spent on test prep. My Track page
https://t.co/HKxUuwmjaV
#NHed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:13 PM EDT
A1. We're doing more to engage Ss and meet their needs. We still need to ID the ones that have potential to slip through the cracks
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:14 PM EDT
#NHed
A1: I wish I could say my own kids run to school but there is a disconnect for them. And they're decent students.
shirky17
Apr 24 @ 7:14 PM EDT
#NHed
A1 neither... they are pushed in to it and trapped there because they law says they have to be there .....
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:14 PM EDT
It's a lot of work to be *that* on all day. I'm coming off spring break now - I crashed hard this past week.
#nhed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:15 PM EDT
@edventures
sometimes educators' children get too much of school
#NHed
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:15 PM EDT
#nhed
A1 After working as part of a STEAM program I've seen Ss become more excited to learn and get involved
#edu235
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:15 PM EDT
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@DrMerriRajaniem
*sigh* true...
#NHed
shirky17
Apr 24 @ 7:15 PM EDT
#NHed
A1 - though we know education is good for them, it is hard to convince a teenager of anything
KevinJGrace
Apr 24 @ 7:15 PM EDT
A1- I believe S's are running toward school. Increasingly they are moving more towards T's that create personalized learning opps.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:16 PM EDT
.
@shirky17
I wonder if there is anything we can do to change that perception?
#NHed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:16 PM EDT
@edventures
@shirky17
We need to select specific Ss leaders and let peer pressure encourage Ss
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:17 PM EDT
#NHed
Reframing Q1, what things cause Ss to run from school? What things encourage them to run to it?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:17 PM EDT
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@DrMerriRajaniem
How so?
#NHed
shirky17
Apr 24 @ 7:17 PM EDT
#NHed
@edventures
their vision is so near sighted (most of them) (brain development theories)... doesnt help them today life = not worth it
schug_dennis
Apr 24 @ 7:18 PM EDT
A1 That all depends on the culture we're building...for AND with them. Students won't run away from it if they're invested in it.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:18 PM EDT
.
@edventures
I think
@drmerrirajaniem
is onto something key when she talks about S leadership. Ss need a voice in the process.
#nhed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:18 PM EDT
@edventures
When there are more than one challenging S, you get one on your side. I thought about the parallel
#NHed
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:19 PM EDT
A1 I remember running from school because of insane anxiety. It's important to create a comfortable, less rigid environment
#nhed
#edu235
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:19 PM EDT
Sounds like what
@schug_dennis
just said!
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:20 PM EDT
#NHed
Q2: We have outlets for athletes & mainstream Ss, but what about the rest, those who dance to their own beat?
https://t.co/HzR8Swr0bi
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:20 PM EDT
I asked a S last week how could we make school more engaging. We need to listen to Ss. It should be their school too.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:20 PM EDT
@nickedu235
You and me both. Though it was the unpredictable (to me) nature of my teacher at the time that was causing my anxiety.
#nhed
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:21 PM EDT
A2 I was one of them. My school ran talent shows and battle of the bands, which were always my year's highlights
#nhed
#edu235
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:21 PM EDT
#NHed
My own kids don't believe that it was as rough for me in school then as it is for them now. They think I don't understand them.
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:22 PM EDT
A2. We need to provide Ss with multiple extracurricular options. Survey Ss and let them help select/design clubs with admin approval
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:22 PM EDT
Q2. We spend a lot of time helping Ss be part of groups - we don't do nearly enough to support those who take the path less travelled.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:22 PM EDT
#NHed
A2: Our school has a number of clubs that try to reach out to students with varied interests: Russian, Gamer, Outdoor Club, LGTB, etc.
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:23 PM EDT
@DrMerriRajaniem
I accidentally founded a group in MS by trying to attend a meeting of a group that didn't exist.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:23 PM EDT
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@nickedu235
One of the things I love about my school now is the regular open mic sessions they host during school.
#Interlakes
#NHed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:24 PM EDT
@edventures
There's a LOT more testing now than there was when I was in school.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:24 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
@DrMerriRajaniem
LOL! What group did you create?
#NHed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:24 PM EDT
@gallianstone
That's great! I LOVE IT! Sounds like they pulled one over on you. Smart Ss.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:24 PM EDT
@edventures
@DrMerriRajaniem
Girl's Computer Equity Committee (which became the Girl's Equity Committee the following year.)
#nhed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:25 PM EDT
@edventures
@nickedu235
I would like to hear more about your open mic sesssions
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:26 PM EDT
Our open mic sessions were organized by our lib
@angiecmiller74
- students sign up ahead of time to perform.
@DrMerriRajaniem
#NHed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:28 PM EDT
@edventures
@angiecmiller74
How often is this held? What time of day? I think this is a great way to build relationships with Ss
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:30 PM EDT
#NHed
Q3: How can we reach out to, and provide opportunities for, our most challenging Ss?
https://t.co/m4OWigBaKN
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Ours happens every month or two during our office hours period on Fridays in the Media Center.
@DrMerriRajaniem
@angiecmiller74
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:32 PM EDT
#NHed
A3: I was wondering what it would be like to have an open woods/metal/auto shop nearby for Ss to use on their projects.
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:32 PM EDT
What about Ss who don't/can't access extracurriculurs? E.G. SPED buses don't run late, need staff support, job, watching younger sibs
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:33 PM EDT
.
@gallianstone
A valid point! I wonder if we could reconstruct the school day to put these activities in the middle of the day?
#NHed
musiccargirl14
Apr 24 @ 7:34 PM EDT
A3: find out what motivates them and guide them on how to explore it in a meaningful way
#NHed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:34 PM EDT
A3. Start a club with those Ss and teach strategies to use their leadership in positive ways
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Hey
#NHed
, here is a blog post from my
#Interlakes
HS library media specialist
@angiecmiller74
about our open mic
https://t.co/n8MbCw2rAl
angiecmiller74
Apr 24 @ 7:33 PM EDT
@DrMerriRajaniem
@edventures
https://t.co/iLOu8h6fwX
musiccargirl14
Apr 24 @ 7:35 PM EDT
A3: A genius lab open during school and before/after. Open exploration space!
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:36 PM EDT
@edventures
Isn't that 20% time or genius hour?
#nhed
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:36 PM EDT
A3 Ss should be encouraged to find other paths if not academic. Trade-skills should be applauded, not held with a stigma
#nhed
#edu235
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:38 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
Could be - was thinking about something more regular & recognized for continuity & consistency. Protect time for kids
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:38 PM EDT
@edventures
I think it depends on how you define challenging. & why the S is challenging. Teaching is about relationships, after all.
#nhed
JenniferFox13
Apr 24 @ 7:39 PM EDT
Calling All Ts! Plz add ur handle 2 doc
https://t.co/18Nd5KqgPV
started by
@alicekeeler
4 research!
#nhed
#read4fun
#nctlchat
PledgeCents
Apr 24 @ 7:39 PM EDT
@nickedu235
@gallianstone
Yes! We need to remember that individual have unique strengths... Ss included.
#nhed
#edu235
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:39 PM EDT
.
@nickedu235
Have you all seen the Va Govs 2yr/4yr proposal?
https://t.co/pcbgr9szgk
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:40 PM EDT
#NHed
Q4: Extroverts pretty much help themselves, but how can we support our introverts?
https://t.co/CavaUc7DvN
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:41 PM EDT
A4. Through building relationships, getting to know their strengths, hobbies, etc. and encouraging participation
#NHed
KayGibson01
Apr 24 @ 7:42 PM EDT
@edventures
#NHed
I believe friendship is the key drive to S's running too. Maintaining a friendly inclusive S Body is key!
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:43 PM EDT
A4 in classroom setting: no random calling on students. Backchannels also give shy students a voice and way to participate
#nhed
#edu235
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:43 PM EDT
#NHed
Often times introverts shun group activities, so how do we reach them or provide them with outlets?
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:44 PM EDT
@edventures
Allow them to express themselves through technology / medium of their choice
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:44 PM EDT
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@nickedu235
That is one of the things I love about backchannels & chats/forums. Ss can think and then post in a safe environment.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:45 PM EDT
@edventures
It's not just introverts. Those w/ social communication challenges and (this might surprise some) gifted Ss avoid it too!
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:45 PM EDT
#NHed
A4: One of my fav activities when I was in HS was a creative writing group. We had time to just be, and could share if we chose.
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:45 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
Yes they do! I have one myself who I would've thought would be a Type A but he dislikes those situations.
#NHed
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:46 PM EDT
@edventures
I always did well in group projects if/when it allowed me to do something I enjoyed (play a song, create a movie)
#nhed
#edu235
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:46 PM EDT
@edventures
I discovered collaborative writing in college. One of the few groups I ever really felt a part of.
#nhed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:48 PM EDT
@edventures
It's because they end up carrying all the work. Especially the Type As.
#nhed
Sarah_C_EDU235
Apr 24 @ 7:49 PM EDT
A1: I think that students are running towards school when schools have welcoming and accepting environments!
#nhed
#EDU235
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:50 PM EDT
#NHed
Q5: As we look ahead, will we celebrate, regulate, or castigate self-expression in schools?
https://t.co/QmFqdyfciq
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:51 PM EDT
@Sarah_C_EDU235
YES! When they feel safe, loved, and valued, they will run toward school
#NHed
Sarah_C_EDU235
Apr 24 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A2: We have to encourage students to be who they are and let students take initiative to create clubs/activities of interests!
#nhed
#EDU235
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A5 seems schools are still creative-killing industrial cogs, but definitely moving towards a more open/expressive environment
#nhed
#edu235
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:52 PM EDT
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@nickedu235
I agree, I sense a change as well, but it is approaching at a frustratingly slow pace!
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:53 PM EDT
A5. We spend a lot of time trying to regulate it. (Harness it.) I'm still undecided about what we *should* do with it.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:55 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
Agreed. Sometimes in naming, identifying or forcing a thing, we actually destroy what made it unique in the 1st place.
#NHed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:55 PM EDT
A5. We need to change the mindset of educators if we want to celebrate self-expression in schools. We tend to regulate it.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:56 PM EDT
#NHed
Can you go further Nick? How do you see that working, or rather not working?
https://t.co/JdVQrUxDCP
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:55 PM EDT
@edventures
I think standards become a hindrance with this movement, especially with such little focus on the Arts. Clubs seem to help lots
Sarah_C_EDU235
Apr 24 @ 7:56 PM EDT
A3: If students misbehave, we have to find sources of behaviors! Perhaps, they are lacking skills from which we are to teach!
#nhed
#EDU235
KevinJGrace
Apr 24 @ 7:57 PM EDT
A5- the current trend would suggest we continue to welcome self expression.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 24 @ 7:57 PM EDT
@edventures
when we try to pair it with less-desirable activities to increase engagement/motivation it can backfire badly
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:58 PM EDT
Let's end
#NHed
tonight as they ended the movie:
https://t.co/uuTlQN2Fc8
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:59 PM EDT
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:59 PM EDT
.
@nickedu235
I think you'll find that is true w/ many boxed curriculum sets. Good Ts find ways to break out - be one of those! :)
#NHed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 24 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Thanks for interesting questions tonight,
@edventures
#NHed
Sarah_C_EDU235
Apr 24 @ 7:59 PM EDT
A4: We could check up on them regularly, encourage them, and help build confidence to have voices heard!
#nhed
#EDU235
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 24 @ 7:59 PM EDT
#NHed
https://t.co/Up8kagYUbV
nickedu235
Apr 24 @ 7:58 PM EDT
@edventures
I feel teachers end up bound to curricula and standards and fall into a cookie-cutter routine. Could be wrong, not teaching yet