#sblchat Archive


Wednesday February 6, 2019
9:00 PM EST

  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Hello and welcome to #sblchat! To get us started, please begin introductions with your name, location, and role in education.
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Katie, science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area. So happy to be moderating with the amazing @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW tonight! #sblchat
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Jon from IL good evening everyone #sblchat
  • DanKos3 Feb 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Dan from Wisconsin. High school science explainer. We teach each other, just different content. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Welcome Jon! #sblchat
    In reply to @JTsunami78
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Cathy in Texas. Former HS teacher now prof in Higher Ed. Looking forward to joining #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Happy you are here, Dan! #sblchat
    In reply to @DanKos3
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Jon, always pleased to connect with you. #sblchat
    In reply to @JTsunami78
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Welcome Cathy! #sblchat
    In reply to @cathybox
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Todd in Texas, 6th Grade Social Studies Teacher. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
    We learn from each other, Dan! Thank you! #sblchat
    In reply to @DanKos3
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Happy you could join us, Todd! #sblchat
    In reply to @greenbergt
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
    We're pleased to learn alongside you, Cathy! Welcome. #sblchat
    In reply to @cathybox
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Welcome Todd. #sblchat
    In reply to @greenbergt
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Like this tweet if you're new to our Standards-Based Learning chat and you'd like us to welcome you tonight! #sblchat
  • TiffanieTorrisi Feb 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Tiffanie from Chicago suburbs - School Improvement & Instructional Coach. Excited to join for the first time tonight! #SBLchat
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hello! Long time no see. Becky from the western suburbs of Chicago. Finally have my act together enough to hop back into #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Tiffanie! #sblchat
    In reply to @TiffanieTorrisi
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    PE & Health 6th - 8th #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hello friend! Happy you are here! #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Jon! #sblchat
    In reply to @JTsunami78
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
    We have six questions tonight about Reconsidering Homework. Please respond with A1, A2, etc and don't forget the hashtag! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Let's welcome @TiffanieTorrisi as a first-timer to #sblchat tonight! Everyone waving!
    In reply to @TiffanieTorrisi, @TiffanieTorrisi
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Becky. Welcome! #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Pleased to welcome Cathy {@cathybox} to our #sblchat tonight! Let's make her feel welcome!
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Jon, you da Man! #sblchat
    In reply to @JTsunami78, @TiffanieTorrisi
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Question 1 coming up in 1 minute! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:06 PM EST
    @greenbergt Greetings Todd! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:06 PM EST
    We're on the edge of our seat! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1 What is the purpose of homework? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1-We see the purpose of HW as an opportunity to do optional Extra Practice on any prior day's instruction to help close gaps in learning. We also provide spiral review Extra Practice to strengthen retention. It is never on same day instruction. #sblchat
  • DanKos3 Feb 6 @ 9:08 PM EST
    For me it’s practice. It’s not for mastery. Why disadvantage slow starters? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:08 PM EST
    @mrdyche Adam, it's always better when you're here with us in #sblchat!
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 Ideally, the purpose of homework would be to give students a chance to practice what they are learning. #sblchat
  • CVULearns Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Hi, Stan from VT Sorry I’m late, was helping my son with homework...what are we talking about tonight? #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: Extra practice or to finish a concept for class - I often have students ask if they can take something home to finish it just do it at home where they focus better. #sblchat
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    I view homework as targeted work based on achievement gaps like @RoweRikW mentioned. I try and incorporate data from assessments to target specific learning. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Or what they have previously learned, right? #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A1 Ideally, the purpose of homework would be to give students a chance to practice what they are learning. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Ha! Hello Stan! #sblchat
    In reply to @CVULearns
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: The purpose is to provide an authentic and purposeful learning experience. If it isn't either of those, it's merely just busy work. #sblchat
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 The purpose of homework should be to allow students time to work at their own pace as they master the objectives #sblchat
  • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Likewise, friend! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:10 PM EST
    THIS!! #sblchat
    • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A1: The purpose is to provide an authentic and purposeful learning experience. If it isn't either of those, it's merely just busy work. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Agreed. :) #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @mrdyche
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
    RT Q1 What is the purpose of homework? #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I get this too! :) #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • kirk_humphreys Feb 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Kirk joining a little late this evening in a long while. Teacher of 6-8th grade double accelerated math in a flipped classroom. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1-Our Learners should be able to engage in their Extra Practice (HW). It should not require parental support. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Kirk, we have been waiting for you! #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Hi! I’m Kirstin and I’m an Instructional Coach at a high school in the Western burbs! Excited I finally make it! #sblchat
  • technolandy Feb 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Ian - principaling on the pacific! Don’t have much time for homework...unless it’s self initiated! #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Feb 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: The purpose of homework is practice. It should be used to reinforce a concept and be used as formative work to determine where the student should go next in their learning. #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: I will also say that sometimes I need students to do work outside of my classroom that I just do the have time to fit into class - reason a novel or wwritingparts of a paper #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Kisten, we are so glad to see you! #sblchat
    In reply to @murphykscience
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Hello friend! #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys
  • technolandy Feb 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1 I prefer “work at home” when students want to extend their knowledge or enhance their work. Not many have the unscheduled time to pick up “bonus work” #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Welcome Kirsten! #sblchat
    In reply to @murphykscience
  • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: If it must be given, it needs to be to practice what they already know (and can do) in order to strengthen working memory. Too often, Ss are assigned “work to be completed”, rather than to sharpen existing knowledge & skill. #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Your #sblchat is just getting started. Join your Crew NOW! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
    THIS. #sblchat
    • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:13 PM EST
      A1: If it must be given, it needs to be to practice what they already know (and can do) in order to strengthen working memory. Too often, Ss are assigned “work to be completed”, rather than to sharpen existing knowledge & skill. #sblchat
      In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • TiffanieTorrisi Feb 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: HW should be designed in a way that it’s MEANINGFUL practice of skills that Ss can do independently (for the most part). It shouldn’t be about parents/ families having to help so much, nor about a major struggle w/unknow content #sblchat
  • technolandy Feb 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Also don’t disadvantage those that have so many other tasks to complete - had some students who had over hour long bus rides who would be chided for “not taking care in their work” because they’d did school work on the bus do they could do chores at home #sblchat
    In reply to @DanKos3
  • DanKos3 Feb 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Agreed. #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:15 PM EST
    @murphykscience Thank you Kirstin! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Q2 How do you ensure that homework/practice is respectful to your students? #sblchat
  • technolandy Feb 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Student Led Conferences tonight - so I’m still at school in case of extra questions like “when is the talent show?” #sblchat
    In reply to @JTsunami78
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Meaningful, authentic, and relevant is the best Extra Practice for our Learners. #sblchat
    • TiffanieTorrisi Feb 6 @ 9:14 PM EST
      A1: HW should be designed in a way that it’s MEANINGFUL practice of skills that Ss can do independently (for the most part). It shouldn’t be about parents/ families having to help so much, nor about a major struggle w/unknow content #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2-To respect our Learners, any Extra Practice they chose to engage in is optional and always ungraded. We empower our Learners to read, play a sport, exercise, enjoy family time rather than assign repetitive practice. #sblchat #StopBusyWork
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
    @mrsprebble84 Becky, you make me SMILE! #sblchat
  • technolandy Feb 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
    One of my favourite moments is always when kids come up and ask (haltingly) if they can “take this and do some work on it at home”. Their choice = relevance and meaning & ownership! #sblchat
    In reply to @JTsunami78
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: Provide opportunities for completion during class time. #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
      Q2 How do you ensure that homework/practice is respectful to your students? #sblchat
  • kruevans Feb 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: Don't give it in the first place #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow, @RoweRikW
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: Know your students. this answer is different in every school and every classroom. Relationships and flexibility are usually the answer to respect in any scenario #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 For me, I don’t assign specific homework. However, I often have students work on their projects at home. The kicker is that it is when they decide the need to, which means they can work around their already busy schedules. #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Feb 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: The students will tell me when it's not. #sblchat
  • T3achingWorst Feb 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 I say please and thank you when I pass it out #sblchat #TLTW
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
      Q2 How do you ensure that homework/practice is respectful to your students? #sblchat
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Or maybe a time to reflect on what they learned as well - deepening their understanding #sblchat
    In reply to @mrdyche, @RoweRikW, @KatieBudrow
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Just for you, @kruevans! #sblchat
  • CVULearns Feb 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 #sblchat IF HW is give, it needs to be the following: Clear and target based Differentiated Engaging Brief
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Yes! Student choice! #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:18 PM EST
      A2 For me, I don’t assign specific homework. However, I often have students work on their projects at home. The kicker is that it is when they decide the need to, which means they can work around their already busy schedules. #sblchat
  • DanKos3 Feb 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
    It can be optional. Don’t grade but give constructive feedback. Don’t make it more than they can handle or more difficult than they have practice or too easy you are wasting their time (and yours). #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:16 PM EST
      Q2 How do you ensure that homework/practice is respectful to your students? #sblchat
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: When I design work at home my goal is to be mindful of what my Ss have gone through that day. I try to provide different styles of learning that involve some fun and reinforcement that they will succeed and I have thier back. #sblchat
  • kruevans Feb 6 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Thanks Rik haha! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
    RT Q2 How do you ensure that homework/practice is respectful to your students? #sblchat
  • technolandy Feb 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2 this is when I like “descriptive feedback loops” so student teacher and parents all understand the “why” (ie acquiring sight words, vocabulary misunderstandings) but not “odd questions MWF even Qs T & Th.... #sblchat
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2 absolutely cannot be busy work or something that is assigned just so the T can enter a grade in the grade book #sblchat
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A1 If it must be given it must be meaningful and reinforce the standard learned in class. Students know when they’re given busy work and it’s a waste of everyone’s time. Hwk needs to be relevant and meaningful, but not the only way to practice #sblchat
  • TiffanieTorrisi Feb 6 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: Not creating these outrageous systems where Ss are so severely penalized for not completing it... or completing it incorrectly #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Pushing #Pause on Homework for most of our Learners... #sblchat @kruevans
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Only once in 30 years have I assigned homework. I've never believed it is critical to learning, and it feeds inequity. #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Feb 6 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I don't necessarily disagree with homework, I disagree with how it is used. I like using the word practice rather than homework. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @kruevans
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2 It’s offered as an option for those who need it. That respects the time of those who don’t. And as long as it’s not graded doesn’t penalize those who take longer/need more practice #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Would you want this to be you ? Well... #STOPIT #sblchat
  • kruevans Feb 6 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I think the science is on your side Kirk, especially as you go up in age. #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @RoweRikW
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q3 Should homework/practice impact a student’s grade? Why or why not? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Right with you. Many of our HS Math Learners that choose specific Extra Practice benefit greatly from it. #NeverBusyWork #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @kruevans
  • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2: Frankly, don’t forget that we’ve (school) have already taken 7-8 hours of their day. #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3-Any Extra Practice (HW) that our Learners chose to do outside of class is always ungraded. However, we do believe that Extra Practice that they consider is worthwhile does impact learning, retention, and participation in class. #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3: No. Because homework cannot be used as a reliable assessment of student ability or learning. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Inequity is certainly a heavy point to consider. I only gave a small amount, mostly just finishing classwork, very early in my career. I found it ineffective then. Years later, I find it unfair. #sblchat
    In reply to @greenbergt
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3: Definitely NOT. Practice is practice. Give feedback, not a score. Otherwise it loses its purpose. #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
      Q3 Should homework/practice impact a student’s grade? Why or why not? #sblchat
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I don’t disagree with homework either - it’s what we do with it that matters. Some students need that time alone with the content. Some don’t #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @RoweRikW, @kruevans
  • Willmdunn Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A1) I see HW as a chance to recall what we did in class with a little separation of time and to revisit past item (interleave). It isn’t necessary to develop concepts. #sblchat
  • DanKos3 Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Ultimately it will through assessment, but by itself no. Don’t double count it, especially if a student doesn’t need it and doesn’t do it. Maybe it could be built into a behavior outcome? #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:25 PM EST
      Q3 Should homework/practice impact a student’s grade? Why or why not? #sblchat
  • TezelTeaches Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2 #sblchat It isn’t often that I give students something to practice on that doesn’t have class time given. Many students do not utilize in class time because it seems like they’re trying to play catch up for other classes so often ELA seems to be their “only HW.”
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 Nope. If it is practice, let it be just that. Only summative evidence of learning should be included in a grade. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
    But Extra Practice can lead to heightened learning. #sblchat
    • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
      A3: No. Because homework cannot be used as a reliable assessment of student ability or learning. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:27 PM EST
    @greenbergt That being said, if a student would like to work at home, I fully support that idea. I do check to make sure they aren't overloaded though. :) #sblchat
    In reply to @greenbergt
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Really see the benefits of #Interleaving! #sblchat
    • Willmdunn Feb 6 @ 9:26 PM EST
      A1) I see HW as a chance to recall what we did in class with a little separation of time and to revisit past item (interleave). It isn’t necessary to develop concepts. #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: I have never talked to a T who wants to grade homework for any reason other than punishing students who don't complete it #sblchat.
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:28 PM EST
    That being said, if a student would like to work at home, I will support that. However I do check to make sure they aren't overloading themselves. :) #sblchat
    In reply to @greenbergt
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:28 PM EST
    When the mindset of working at home is about reinforcement and growth the whole grading model is a moot point. I have seen Ss spirits crushed and any love they had for learning vanquished when they are penalized for learning. Convos about HW not grades! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
    RT Q3 Should homework/practice impact a student’s grade? Why or why not? #sblchat
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I love practice instead of homework. And it frustrates me when my teachers say their students “must have 30mins of homework every night” Your class is not their only class, and it’s probably not needed #sblchat #NeverBusyWork
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @RoweRikW, @kruevans
  • TezelTeaches Feb 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Q3 #sblchat Our school has work habits which ends up being a small percentage of their grade. It is on completion and not correct-ness.
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3: Truthfully, we often overlook this fact. We can’t guarantee who’s completed that work, creating these reliability issues. #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3 Practice at home will normally impact a grade - can’t be helped. They may be better equipped to handle what’s next in the curriculum #sblchat
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Yes! I hate seeing students who won’t even try cause they’re so afraid of doing it wrong and getting a bad grade! They’d rather take a zero #sblchat
    In reply to @TiffanieTorrisi
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Perhaps. But should it be factored into the grade? Or should we just use summatives? #sblchat
    In reply to @cathybox
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: HW should not be graded. Practice, effort, and time do not represent what a student knows or can do. Our reporting procedures should be a demonstration of learning, not just of “doing” work #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:29 PM EST
      RT Q3 Should homework/practice impact a student’s grade? Why or why not? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:30 PM EST
    #STOPIT #Humor #sblchat
    • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Yes! I hate seeing students who won’t even try cause they’re so afraid of doing it wrong and getting a bad grade! They’d rather take a zero #sblchat
      In reply to @TiffanieTorrisi
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:31 PM EST
    @dougdesu Thank you Doug! #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Feb 6 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: No! When you grade practice, you are penalizing failure. Failure, in practice, should not only be expected but also be encouraged to allow students to cope with it and use it to learn and grow. #sblchat
  • kruevans Feb 6 @ 9:31 PM EST
    THIS. #sblchat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Hi Nick! Did I miss you before or did you just jump on? Either way, I'm glad you are here! #sblchat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele
  • TiffanieTorrisi Feb 6 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: The purpose of reviewing Ss practice of skills outside the classroom (aka HW) should be formative to the teacher, first & foremost - - and then relevant & useful feedback should be provided to the S - Not a “grade” #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Yes! Nick is in the H-O-U-S-E! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow, @NAEmmanuele
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:32 PM EST
    What's up! @NAEmmanuele #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I do see some Ts using HW to “boost”/“balance” low summative assessments... which really doesn’t improve their learning... only their grade #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • technolandy Feb 6 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3 I’ve offered to do my kids homework (as a student we had a sharing team in case someone “forgot”) but they keep on politey declining.... intrinsically motivated to learn well! #sblchat
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3 Absolutely not. It should be a SAFE NO PRESSURE chance to practice their learning and figure out where they’re at. #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Just got in from our final tech rehearsal of @McD_AlicePlays! I’m exhausted, but I can’t keep away from #sblchat!
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @KatieBudrow, @McD_AlicePlays
  • CVULearns Feb 6 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Should also discuss that there is a significant difference between not graded & optional. We still need to set expectations that the work is a mandatory part of the learning cycle; & when it isn’t finished/accurate, Ss will need to get it done. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Q4 If a student isn’t completing homework/practice what should happen next? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
    We see HS Math Extra Practice as... #sblchat
  • Willmdunn Feb 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A2) It is designed to take <15 minutes. It has ~6 questions: 2 process questions, 2 review questions, 2 current concept but deeper thinking questions. It is not for points or grade. We all know it is to practice concepts as needed. #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Hey, @JTsunami78! Glad I could him for a bit! #sblchat
    In reply to @JTsunami78, @JTsunami78
  • Owen_Webb Feb 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3 Practice is where students should take risks, where they should be challenged, and where they should collaborate. The practice should push students so by the time they are evaluated, they are comfortable with the expectations… don’t grade practice. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4-If our Learners are not engaging in our optional Extra Practice outside of class and we believe that it could positively contribute to learning, we encourage them to seek remedial support during school or stay after for academic supports. #sblchat
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
    It shouldn’t be factored into the grade. That’s simply not fair nor equitable #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • kruevans Feb 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Nicholas just wanted to drop you a line and let you know that I really appreciate reading everything you write. You make me a better teacher and thinker! #sblchat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
    It’s definitely not used as an opportunity to offer feedback or reflection for the student. #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • dougdesu Feb 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
    And thank you! Sorry to miss #sblchat tonight. I’ll try to catch it next time. I just started my transition to a #standardsbased approach in my HS American History classes.
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Ditto George! #sblchat
    • kruevans Feb 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
      Nicholas just wanted to drop you a line and let you know that I really appreciate reading everything you write. You make me a better teacher and thinker! #sblchat
      In reply to @NAEmmanuele
  • DanKos3 Feb 6 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Depends if they need it. If yes, we discuss obstacles. I #flipclass so it’s kind of important to do. No penalty if not done, they have a harder time with daily activity. Still get the chance to do it and help when needed. #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
      Q4 If a student isn’t completing homework/practice what should happen next? #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 Does the student need it to master the standards? If so, work with the student to find ways to make it work. Perhaps that’s carving out time during school or changing the type of practice. #sblchat
  • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
    And is a disincentive to do well on performance tasks. Ss will often defer to the easy tasks (graded HW) over the harder ones (performance assessments). Performing matters. #sblchat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @mrsprebble84
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4: quick answer is to have a convo w/Ss who aren’t completing work to troubleshoot & open the discussion rather than punish. #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
      Q4 If a student isn’t completing homework/practice what should happen next? #sblchat
  • Willmdunn Feb 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A3) No! #sblchat
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4: We really need to find out "why?" #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:34 PM EST
      Q4 If a student isn’t completing homework/practice what should happen next? #sblchat
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Agreed! We shouldn’t grade it but it will definitely affect learning #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • Owen_Webb Feb 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 See how they do on the evaluation… maybe they don’t need practice. The evaluation reveals learning needs… allow the evaluation to dictate next steps rather than the practice #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4 However, if the student can master the standards without the practice, then perhaps they don’t need to do that exact practice. Though it can be really powerful to talk to the student about how they learn and help them see value in practicing different ways to learn. #sblchat
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:37 PM EST
    I have recently run into this with my 8th grade health class. I started having students come down from lunch during my personal plan we can chat and have some 1 on 1 time to find a solution. I do this not as a punishment but an opportunity to expand learning. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Graded HW? #STOPIT #sblchat
    • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:36 PM EST
      And is a disincentive to do well on performance tasks. Ss will often defer to the easy tasks (graded HW) over the harder ones (performance assessments). Performing matters. #sblchat
      In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @mrsprebble84
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4: Depends on the kid and it depends on the why. The first step is a conversation with the S. #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Performance/summative tasks sure do matter! I explain to my Ss that their score in my class will reflect their learning and what they can show. #sblchat
    In reply to @mrdyche, @mrsprebble84
  • Willmdunn Feb 6 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4) If they’re learning and showing evidence- leave them alone. If they aren’t- 1:1 conference. MTSS as needed. Seek counselor support to find a remedy. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:38 PM EST
    RT Q4 If a student isn’t completing homework/practice what should happen next? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Sarah, they do since they know they will see growth, progress, and heightened confidence! #sblchat
    In reply to @sarahcburger
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4 Is then practice even needed? If not, then nothing. If so, I think it’s time to have a heart to heart convo with the student to find out why! #sblchat
  • TiffanieTorrisi Feb 6 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4: First response is to try and get at the underlying issue: Skill deficit where work is above independent level & there are missing skills needed to complete it? Or performance deficit where you’re sure they have the skills but just not doing it - if so, why not? #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Since makeing the switch a common "complaint" from Ss is that they can't just do homework to pass the class. #sorrynotsorry #sblchat
    In reply to @mrdyche, @NAEmmanuele
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Perhaps they have mastered the learning target and would benefit more from extension activities? #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A4 However, if the student can master the standards without the practice, then perhaps they don’t need to do that exact practice. Though it can be really powerful to talk to the student about how they learn and help them see value in practicing different ways to learn. #sblchat
  • MrAustinA2 Feb 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I tell my students to take what they need + leave what they don't because if the work doesn't mean anything to them or directly address their needs, it's not really useful. We may have to work with students to revise or come up with new assessments that meet their needs. #SBLChat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
    @kruevans: thank you for the kind words! #sblchat has helped me development so much (and @NCTE & @ncte_cel). Connecting with each other makes all of us better. I enjoy reading your tweets as well, George!
    In reply to @kruevans, @kruevans, @ncte, @ncte_cel
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Love your #SorryNotSorry. #sblchat
    • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:39 PM EST
      Since makeing the switch a common "complaint" from Ss is that they can't just do homework to pass the class. #sorrynotsorry #sblchat
      In reply to @mrdyche, @NAEmmanuele
  • Owen_Webb Feb 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4. - We are seeking students who are internally compelled to learn, not externally controlled. Is your homework about controlling behaviour or is it about compelled engagement? How are you helping students to be compelled learners? #sblchat
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4 One on one with S to learn more. If they are showing mastery in class then its a moot point. But if not, they may need additional time during the school day #sblchat Or it could be a matter of value - they don’t see it for some reason
  • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: Frankly, if it is that important to have been completed, then time should be given in school to do it. Sometimes, I think we forget that school was created for learners to have a place — and time — to get better at things. #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:41 PM EST
    @MrAustinA2 Thank you Jeffrey! #sblchat
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Exactly! Go even further and empower Ss and they will take ownership of their own learning. #sblchat
    • Owen_Webb Feb 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
      A4. - We are seeking students who are internally compelled to learn, not externally controlled. Is your homework about controlling behaviour or is it about compelled engagement? How are you helping students to be compelled learners? #sblchat
  • CVULearns Feb 6 @ 9:42 PM EST
    We know that learners need time to consolidate learning and that learning needs to be within the zone of proximal development, that engagement is a significant driver of learning, and that brain wants a target. This knowledge alone must change practices around homework. #sblchat
  • MrAustinA2 Feb 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
    No problem! If the task is relevant + the ask is meaningful, students will do the work. They want to learn! It's really important that our work be part of a spiraled curriculum: the process should lead them to mastery. #SBLChat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Q5 What are some effective ways to provide descriptive feedback on homework/practice? #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
    I’ve been shifting to almost no HW (except read a novel every 20 days, but also with 15min/class/day) and I tell my Ss that if they’re working during workshop each day, I don’t need to give HW. Mini-lessons & Workshop have been transformational. Ss are working, not me. #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84, @mrdyche
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Totally agree. I think too many times crucial conversations aren’t had with the students who perform well, cause they’re performing well. They deserve these skill convos too! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Crazy awesome when that happens. :) #sblchat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @mrsprebble84, @mrdyche
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5-Our HS Math Learners receive feedback on any Practice they do along with a sticker aligning to our 4-point grading scale. The sticker communicates a ballpark understanding about proficiency. Blue-Exemplary Green-Proficient Yellow-Approaching Red-Beginning #sblchat
  • Owen_Webb Feb 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4. So homework versus no homework… I’m not convinced that is the right question… do students trust you? Do Ss believe who they can be as learners? Do Ss want to learn the material? If they are engaged, and if they believe in where it will get them, they will dive in #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Yes! More #RetrievalPractice, more Interleaving, more spiraled reviews lead to more retention! #sblchat
    • MrAustinA2 Feb 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
      No problem! If the task is relevant + the ask is meaningful, students will do the work. They want to learn! It's really important that our work be part of a spiraled curriculum: the process should lead them to mastery. #SBLChat
      In reply to @RoweRikW
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5 My favorite way of providing feedback is always 1:1 face-to-face conferences. This works well in my PBL room because not everyone is at the same place at the same time. Would be hard to do w/ all the students in the class on the same day. #sblchat
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5...That’s good/now this. Success intervention feedback. Always remember to provide positive words, then point them in the right direction if needed. #sblchat Focus on the work, not the person...
  • MrAustinA2 Feb 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
    It's also a really good reading strategy, too. We're not reading to find the "right" answer, we're reading to generate complex questions, to puzzle through, to love language + to make meaning together. We don't need compliance quizzes to get students to read + learn. #SBLchat
    In reply to @Willmdunn, @NAEmmanuele
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
    #School was created to provide a place & time for students to learn: words of wisdom from @mrdyche. This makes so much sense when we consider workload! #sblchat
    • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:40 PM EST
      A4: Frankly, if it is that important to have been completed, then time should be given in school to do it. Sometimes, I think we forget that school was created for learners to have a place — and time — to get better at things. #sblchat
      In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:46 PM EST
    This hits the mark! Ss who have taken ownership of their learning will be the ones putting in the effort. I see teachers who are well-meaning but work themselves into burnout because "they care more than their students." It's called enabling. #sblchat
    • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:43 PM EST
      I’ve been shifting to almost no HW (except read a novel every 20 days, but also with 15min/class/day) and I tell my Ss that if they’re working during workshop each day, I don’t need to give HW. Mini-lessons & Workshop have been transformational. Ss are working, not me. #sblchat
      In reply to @mrsprebble84, @mrdyche
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:46 PM EST
    When it's meaningful, relevant, and respectful, right Owen? #sblchat
    • Owen_Webb Feb 6 @ 9:44 PM EST
      A4. So homework versus no homework… I’m not convinced that is the right question… do students trust you? Do Ss believe who they can be as learners? Do Ss want to learn the material? If they are engaged, and if they believe in where it will get them, they will dive in #sblchat
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5: I love @OtusK12 and the comment ability. This gives me a space to reflect on Ss work and provide authentic feedback. I feel at times my written feedback is clearer than what I provided in class because I had time to reflect on the Ss's work. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:47 PM EST
    RT Q5 What are some effective ways to provide descriptive feedback on homework/practice? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:47 PM EST
    We also aim to #MakeLearningPersonal. #sblchat
    • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:45 PM EST
      A5...That’s good/now this. Success intervention feedback. Always remember to provide positive words, then point them in the right direction if needed. #sblchat Focus on the work, not the person...
  • gerryswan2 Feb 6 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Can people share some data on how practice and performance relate in their school/district? HW can be meaningful, but does it muddy grading/reporting? #sblchat
  • TezelTeaches Feb 6 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Q4 #sblchat We have ZAP during lunch. Asking students to come in before or after school to work with you to complete. If it’s important enough to assign, it’s important enough for us to do everything in our power to ensure students complete it.
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • Owen_Webb Feb 6 @ 9:48 PM EST
    First… they have to trust you as a T. If a S doesn’t trust that you have their best interests at heart… they won’t look at the feedback. Ss have to know you are fighting for them, and at the end of the day, the goal is not the mark… it is to increase their learning #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:49 PM EST
    I am floating/jumping/running around conferring with Ss during workshop, but they’re doing the work. I can clarify a concept, discuss organization, suggest sentence structure, or talk about a book they’re reading, but THEY’RE working (most of them, most of the time) #sblchat
    In reply to @greenbergt
  • TezelTeaches Feb 6 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Q5 #sblchat This is one I struggle with! Conferencing with students whenever possible. Having time for students to come in and discuss confusion is a must!
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5: Don't. Let the kids do the work - gallery walks with peer feedback - or just provide time for them to ask questions after doing the practice. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Hey, don't forget to follow all the awesome people you are learning with on tonight's #sblchat! :)
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:50 PM EST
    just want to make sure that the feedback addresses the work that they have done, not how smart (or not) they are! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • mrdyche Feb 6 @ 9:50 PM EST
    We can be really good at punishing efficiency. Why should a focused learner with strong self management skills who efficiently completes learning tasks be “punished” with more work (at home, no less!)? 🤔 #sblchat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @mrsprebble84
  • technolandy Feb 6 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5 whenever practicing Descriptive Feedback (and any homework should be practice...) I always suggest Two Stars and a Wish. Good at the dinner table & good for ongoing formative feedback. Only ever one thing to work on next #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
    80 min: 15min reading, 20min lesson, 45min workshop. Things can alternate with shorter classes, but I love each every day. My process: https://t.co/VjAf3whZmL #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84, @mrdyche
  • CVULearns Feb 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A4 Too often teachers confuse homework with formative assessment. HW is NOT formative assessment - Formatives must be individual and done in class. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Cathy, thank you for clarifying. #sblchat
    In reply to @cathybox
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:51 PM EST
    All my conferences happen during class time. Students suggested it years ago. The entire structure of my room had to change to make it possible. I wouldn't trade it for the world. :) #sblchat
    In reply to @TezelTeaches
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Q6 How can student choice be built into homework/practice? #sblchat
  • Owen_Webb Feb 6 @ 9:52 PM EST
    I totally agree… we might also change the task… to one with more choice, and to one where it can’t just be “done”. We need to create deeper learning experiences where students dig into the learning #sblchat
    In reply to @mrdyche, @NAEmmanuele, @mrsprebble84
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6-We offer our Learners choice about which Extra Practice they need to engage in and when they need it. Let's respect their decision-making while we do our best to support their progress. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A4-We're now seeing it as formative assessing, rather than formative assessment. We prefer the action of assessing. #sblchat
    In reply to @CVULearns
  • cathybox Feb 6 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6 if we differentiate instruction student choice follows #sblchat
  • TiffanieTorrisi Feb 6 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5: In the end, the feedback should be more work for the S than the T - therefore it should be actionable for the S where they can take it & do something with it to continue forward on their path of learning #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6 Give students control over amount of time, type of practice, type of resource, or time/day of practice. Lots of options, depending on what works for each particular class and student. #sblchat
  • Owen_Webb Feb 6 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6. S. choice can’t be thought of as the practice… it is the learning. Therefore, if a S needs to continue to work at home to engage in the learning, they do. I avoid the word “homework”, but I do say there might be times that learning goes home w/ them - they get it #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • murphykscience Feb 6 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6 Give Ss options for extra practice. It’s a great skill for them to reflect on where they’re at in they’re learning and to figure out what they need to do to “get there” #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Feb 6 @ 9:55 PM EST
    We English Language Arts folk use it all the time! Reading-Writing Workshop: Ts present mini-lesson, Ss work, Ts then confer/conference. There are many who do it far better than I! #sblchat
    In reply to @greenbergt, @mrsprebble84, @mrdyche
  • mrsprebble84 Feb 6 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A5: Haven't done it but probably should...let them design the homework task. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:56 PM EST
    RT Q6 How can student choice be built into homework/practice? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Our next #sblchat is Wednesday 2/20 at 8CT/9ET. We'd benefit from having you here with us again. please consider join us! @garnet_hillman @KatieBudrow
  • EduGladiators Feb 6 @ 9:56 PM EST
    ✨SATURDAY #EduGladiators #BlackHistoryMonth⁠ ⁠series continues w/Core Warrior @D4Griffin3 pushing our 💭on the impact of Brown vs. BoE then & now! #celebratED #CultureEd #weleaded #BmoreEdchat #OhEdChat #scitlap #txed #sblchat @MrsCford_tweets @CRCarter313 @cultofpedagogy
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:57 PM EST
    We’ve offered our HS Math Learners the choice of demonstrating their proficiency using @Desmos. #sblchat @AlgebraDesmos
  • JTsunami78 Feb 6 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A6: When I create work at home I offer 2 or 3 options. I try to incorporate different learning styles. I really try to let my Ss choose thier path because all of them lead to mastery of the standard. The ability to choose their path gives ownership and they appreciate it #sblchat
  • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A6: I have choice menus available to assist students in selecting the format that their practice will take. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Choice Menus help to #MakeLearningPersonal and respectful. #sblchat
    • greenbergt Feb 6 @ 9:57 PM EST
      A6: I have choice menus available to assist students in selecting the format that their practice will take. #sblchat
  • CVULearns Feb 6 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A6 In the past, we created individual targeted practice that kids could choose based on goals they had set. These were targets we had already introduced & worked on and it was optional #sblchat Here is the old link that has all the targeted assignments: https://t.co/hJNk8fG5xI
  • KatieBudrow Feb 6 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thanks for another great chat everyone! Huge thanks to @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW for being such awesome co-mods! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Feb 6 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thoughts to leave you with tonight... #sblchat