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NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:01 PM EST

Welcome to #asechat, tonight we will be discussing the (so called) 5 types of enquiry. Which have recently become more explicit in NC PoS

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:03 PM EST

Great investigation here. Why did the circuit maker breaker work without a complete circuit? #ASEChat https://t.co/dLTFrI6VLq

anhalf Jan 28 @ 3:27 PM EST

@ViciaScience same thing again, so still none the wiser!

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:04 PM EST

So what are the types of enquiry as listed in the NC? #ASEchat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:05 PM EST

who can list all 5 types of investigation? #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:05 PM EST

#asechat Maint Curios The best teaching driven by determined subject leadership that put scientific enquiry at the heart of science teaching

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:05 PM EST

@ViciaScience me! But only because @hrogerson pointed then out about an hour ago... #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:06 PM EST

@ViciaScience The NC calls them Enquiry not investigation #asechat. Is there a difference?

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:07 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @ViciaScience I don't think so... Semantics? #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:07 PM EST

@doc_kristy @ViciaScience @hrogerson well sone Kirsty. They are specified in KS1 & 2 PoS but not in KS3 or 4 #ASEchat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:07 PM EST

@doc_kristy In KS1 & 2, but I do not think they are listed in KS3 and 4 Science National Curriculum #ASEChat

priscigeeks Feb 1 @ 3:08 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 #asechat Comparative & fair testing Pattern seeking Obs over time Research using sec sources Grouping, identifying & classifying

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:09 PM EST

So has 'investigation' taken on more specific meaning recently - open ended, self directed question solving? #ASEChat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:09 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 bit of an echo round here! #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:10 PM EST

2/2 "through different types of science enquiries that help them to answer scientific questions about the world around them” #ASEchat PoS

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:10 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 #asechat and develop their knowledge

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:10 PM EST

@priscigeeks so how would you classify an enquiry to compare the structure of two different flowers? #ASEChat

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:11 PM EST

@priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 #ASEchat In the Scottish curriculum only 4 types of enquiry are listed - same as yours but no Research!

LessonToolbox Feb 1 @ 3:12 PM EST

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participatelrn Feb 1 @ 3:12 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 right now discussing 5 types of Enquiry/Investigation at #ASEchat Follow along + collaborate https://t.co/spZjiBL1Gz @theASE

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:12 PM EST

Pupils should decide on the appropriate type of scientific enquiry to undertake to answer their own questions (p3 KS3 PoS 2014) #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:12 PM EST

@danielharvey9 I have heard it used in context of 'doing a full investigation' as if it were a EPQ #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:12 PM EST

@ViciaScience @priscigeeks #asechat which type do you want, is it possible to do any of them or all of them, just what are you trying to do

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:13 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 I was wondering about 'observation' without it being over time, e.g. what are features of a monocot flower #ASEChat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:14 PM EST

@Glazgow @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 Yes, not really sure how 'research' sneaked in there #ASEChat

Necktar7 Feb 1 @ 3:15 PM EST

@biologyresource Loving the ideas, thanks for the follow #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:15 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat and which types of enquiry are not specified, as per Scotland

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Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:16 PM EST

@ViciaScience @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 Research used to be in there but I suppose in the true sense it's not a type of enquiry #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:16 PM EST

@ViciaScience @Glazgow @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 Research 'defined' as using secondary sources unlike others more practical hands on #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:17 PM EST

Is it fair to suggest that most required prac techniques in new GCSE sc are of the 'comparative testing' type of activity? #ASEChat

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:17 PM EST

@ViciaScience @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 more of a tool to assist enquiry - it is an essential skill that needs to be taught though #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:17 PM EST

See https://t.co/Xz5X88rIvl from SEP “Not everything is a Fair test!” Hence the need to specify other types of enquiry #ASEchat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:18 PM EST

@Glazgow @ViciaScience @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 could it be an astro physics type enquiry to analyse lots of secondary data? #ASEChat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:18 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 might I enquire why we have 5? #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:18 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat possibly not even enquiry but experimental techniques/ processes?

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:19 PM EST

@Glazgow @ViciaScience @priscigeeks some scientists would dispute that using other’s research isn’t part of their enquiry. #ASEchat

SteveTeachPhys Feb 1 @ 3:19 PM EST

@priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 as a set they are a pretty good description of doing astronomy #asechat

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:19 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @ViciaScience @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 which is an essential skill as it's where most scientists start #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:19 PM EST

@ViciaScience @Glazgow @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 #asechat could be, or astro physics example could be a Pattern seeking enquiry

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:19 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 Yes. A lot of teaching required to cover working scientifically outside the specified GCSE practicals #ASEChat

LessonToolbox Feb 1 @ 3:20 PM EST

Labelling parts of the body to show effects of smoking via @HSalks_Davies #asechat https://t.co/VwwG8a7VDg

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:20 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @Glazgow @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 Agreed. Where did the list of enquiry types originate? #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:20 PM EST

@A_Weatherall @NeedhamL56 #asechat so you can count them on most hands, and worry about not doing others, only says for example

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:21 PM EST

@ViciaScience @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 I would say that was more pattern seeking but it would require initial background research #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:21 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @Glazgow @ViciaScience @priscigeeks #asechat could be classed as meta-analysis, Dylan's latest buzz

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:22 PM EST

@ViciaScience @Glazgow @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 #asechat was it AKSIS research? (1980's)

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:22 PM EST

@ViciaScience specified pracs are the minimum though, I do iGCSE but still do a full cwk investigation for rates though #ASEchat

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:22 PM EST

@ViciaScience @stevethedoc1 @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 don't know but AKSIS project proposed 6 https://t.co/X6LjtrSnjZ #asechat

hrogerson Feb 1 @ 3:22 PM EST

Funny there was a controlled assessment that we got upset with because it wasn't really a fair test. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:22 PM EST

Foe secondary teachers the KS1&2 NC has examples of types of enquiry for different Years. #asechat worth a look

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:22 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @Glazgow @ViciaScience @priscigeeks #asechat is that yet another enquiry type beyond the English NC 5?

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:23 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @ViciaScience @Glazgow @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 Mmm. Need to look that up, or ask Val WR #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:24 PM EST

@doc_kristy @ViciaScience they are practicals NOT enquiries WS requires more!!! #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:25 PM EST

@doc_kristy Not even a minimum as need to teach students enquiry skills including analysis. Danger become only practical work done #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:25 PM EST

@hrogerson #asechat just the one, why not more covering a range of enquiry types

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:25 PM EST

@ViciaScience as a science community we need to pull together to stop that from happening! #ASEchat

hrogerson Feb 1 @ 3:26 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 the mark scheme says the plan has to mention fair testing... confusing for students and teachers if the CA isn't one. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:26 PM EST

AKSIS is quoted in this document #asechat not sure its possible to stick to one type of enquiry, once you’ve started https://t.co/c5STeEhiVi

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:22 PM EST

@ViciaScience @stevethedoc1 @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 don't know but AKSIS project proposed 6 https://t.co/X6LjtrSnjZ #asechat

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:26 PM EST

@ViciaScience @stevethedoc1 @priscigeeks @NeedhamL56 This doc gives explains rationale for scot curric https://t.co/FUuXxlBBhb #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:27 PM EST

@hrogerson #asechat and classic in Primary when many think that all have to be fair and enquiry cannot be or should not be

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:28 PM EST

@doc_kristy Agree. Need a list of useful practical activities to provide insights into concepts #ASEChat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:29 PM EST

@doc_kristy And we need a list of age appropriate investigations suitable for teaching enquiry skills with progression #ASEChat

hrogerson Feb 1 @ 3:29 PM EST

@ViciaScience wonder if exam boards be able to put out worksheets for the practicals? People will follow even if it isn't needed ;) #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:30 PM EST

@priscigeeks OK. Passionate about biological drawing to teach observation and think it needs its own category! #ASEChat

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:31 PM EST

@ViciaScience what kind of list? Surely we have enough imagination as science educators to come up with them ourselves? #ASEchat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:31 PM EST

@hrogerson @ViciaScience #asechat for practicals can do easy, but not for enquiries

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:31 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @hrogerson #asechat we do CPD every year on science enquiry in PS to ensure teachers understand the need to cover all of them

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:32 PM EST

@ViciaScience unless you're thinking list needed to save teachers time? That is probably good #ASEchat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:32 PM EST

@hrogerson I have seen worksheets for the required practicals for one exam board - expect others to follow #ASEChat

priscigeeks Feb 1 @ 3:32 PM EST

@ViciaScience observing & observing over time are 2 diff things I think. Drawing v important #ASEchat

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:32 PM EST

@ViciaScience these things exist already though? #ASEchat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:32 PM EST

@ViciaScience @priscigeeks #asechat part of Exploration enquiry, then we get subsets such as Obs over time

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:32 PM EST

You can buy "It’s not fair or is it” from @theASE pubs https://t.co/YudrEeOH9n discount for members #ASEchat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:33 PM EST

@doc_kristy Hope so - but makes point that there is more to practical work in science than learning techniques #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:33 PM EST

and from @theASE publications cheaper for members #ASEchat https://t.co/D0sL9jUnMx

priscigeeks Feb 1 @ 3:30 PM EST

@Glazgow @NeedhamL56 @stevethedoc1 @ViciaScience @MillgateHouseEd it's not fair or is it has ace chapter intros that explain well. Yes AXSIS

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:34 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 #asechat Love post-it note method of fair testing so children can plan their own unique investigation & not know what to expect

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:34 PM EST

@priscigeeks I agree these are quite different techniques although drawing is useful to record changes over time #ASEchat

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:34 PM EST

This resource has great practical ideas for the different types of enquiry https://t.co/I5lKZ1znMb #ASEchat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:35 PM EST

@Tracy_Tyrrell @NeedhamL56 #asechat and variations or tweaks of post it for other enquiry types, principle still works

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:35 PM EST

Not everyone is so lucky to have this CPD input #asechat So what ???s can be answered using diff types of enquiry? https://t.co/NP1rwl4RaA

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:31 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @hrogerson #asechat we do CPD every year on science enquiry in PS to ensure teachers understand the need to cover all of them

hrogerson Feb 1 @ 3:35 PM EST

@ViciaScience I would think so too. #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:35 PM EST

@doc_kristy Do you have a source of good practicals identified for different purposes? #ASEChat

hrogerson Feb 1 @ 3:36 PM EST

When I taught the QCA schemes I felt some of the content was a driver/context for enquiry, but don't feel that now. #asechat

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:36 PM EST

@ViciaScience classic chemistry experiments from RSC is a good starting point, also chem for non specialists book #ASEchat

gregtheseal Feb 1 @ 3:36 PM EST

#asechat good evening all hope I can catch up on the conversation

SteveTeachPhys Feb 1 @ 3:36 PM EST

@Glazgow @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson sorry being stupid, why is there a need to cover all of them in PS? To what end? #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:37 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 somewhere on INTEL website is their online enquiry CPD as well as Reach Out's #asechat

hrogerson Feb 1 @ 3:37 PM EST

I feel like knowledge comes first. Is, that just because I am on twitter with the 'knowledge is king' crowd? #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:37 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 do you have a link Steve? #ASEchat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:38 PM EST

@SteveTeachPhys @Glazgow @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson because they are in the PoS so are the law in England #asechat (unless academy ;)

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:38 PM EST

@SteveTeachPhys @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson gives a breadth of understanding of science enquiry and thinking like a scientist #asechat

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:38 PM EST

@hrogerson I am harking back to QCA at the moment... Using it as basis to redesign Y7/8, just need exploring science and I'm set! #ASEchat

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:38 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat I use @afgoldsworthy's Question Wheel activity...generates lots of questions - some silly but some to investigate

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:39 PM EST

@hrogerson isn’t 'knowledge of enquiry' important in science? Isn’t that what science is really about? #ASEchat

doc_kristy Feb 1 @ 3:39 PM EST

@hrogerson the two go hand in hand, too much of either isn't good #ASEchat

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:39 PM EST

@Glazgow @SteveTeachPhys @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson What's PS? #asechat

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:39 PM EST

@SteveTeachPhys @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson means that secondary school can add depth to their understanding and build on experiences #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:40 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @SteveTeachPhys @Glazgow @hrogerson #asechat so entitlement to use them, explore them etc niot crack them?

hrogerson Feb 1 @ 3:40 PM EST

.@NeedhamL56 knew you would say that! I need to go back to Ian Abrahams book to try and best marry the two. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:40 PM EST

Is this in Science Enquiry games? (also available through @Thease publications… I think #asechat https://t.co/O1y3Mmwwnt

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:38 PM EST

@ViciaScience #asechat I use @afgoldsworthy's Question Wheel activity...generates lots of questions - some silly but some to investigate

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:40 PM EST

@Tracy_Tyrrell @SteveTeachPhys @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson Primary School #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:41 PM EST

@hrogerson sorry to be so predictable! ha ha #ASEchat do you have a ref to Abrahams book?

SteveTeachPhys Feb 1 @ 3:41 PM EST

@Glazgow @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson so it's a set of labels to try & define what a scientist does? #asechat

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:41 PM EST

@Glazgow @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson Blimey!! Why shoudn't they cover them? @SteveTeachPhys #asechat

hrogerson Feb 1 @ 3:42 PM EST

https://t.co/wHV2q92B1U << great book about best using practical work. #asechat @NeedhamL56

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:42 PM EST

@gregtheseal hi Greg, what types of enquiry do you teach? #asechat Do you know what types are now taught in Primary?

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:43 PM EST

@SteveTeachPhys @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson No it's a set of practices that give pupils an understanding of how a scientist might work #asechat

gregtheseal Feb 1 @ 3:44 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 #asechat showing my ignorance here, i have no idea.

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:44 PM EST

@hrogerson Thanks Helen, looks like it links to the research about purpose of practical work #ASEchat

damianainscough Feb 1 @ 3:44 PM EST

#asechat has anyone mentioned this? https://t.co/LQXFgEOuUK https://t.co/gcIiM1dxlO

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:45 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 Use @imascientist and I'm an engineer so children can talk to real scientists using different enquiry types #asechat

damianainscough Feb 1 @ 3:46 PM EST

#asechat Not sure the extent we should get hung up on classifying 'types' - just answer different questions in different ways

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:46 PM EST

@gregtheseal ask a primary teacher, PoS at KS3 and 4 just say "Pupils should decide on the appropriate type of scientific enquiry” #ASEchat

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:47 PM EST

@damianainscough And recognising/choosing the most appropriate way in which to answer them #asechat

SteveTeachPhys Feb 1 @ 3:47 PM EST

@Tracy_Tyrrell @Glazgow @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson not so much shouldn't as why should it be required? #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:47 PM EST

@hrogerson Alt approaches: use knowledge to create hypothesis; use data to create hypothesis - need for both #ASEChat

damianainscough Feb 1 @ 3:47 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @hrogerson Working scientifically is not just 'skills' as often stated. (Opens skills-knowledge debate) #ASEchat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:48 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @gregtheseal #asechat so if not intro, used, covered, nearly cracked inPS then issues at secondary to choose which to use

dannynic Feb 1 @ 3:48 PM EST

.@damianainscough the "it's not fair" book has some great ideas for alternatives to fair testing https://t.co/K9nBZnBtfZ #asechat

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:48 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @gregtheseal which is why we need to ensure they are all covered in some detail, through different contexts in PS #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:48 PM EST

@SteveTeachPhys @Glazgow @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson possibly, think it was to get tchrs not to shoehorn ‘Fair test” into all enquiry #ASEchat

damianainscough Feb 1 @ 3:48 PM EST

@Tracy_Tyrrell @NeedhamL56 @imascientist Do you think they need to keep classifying these types? #asechat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:49 PM EST

@PsqmTurner Thanks! Need similar list for secondary to extend learning and avoid repetition #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:49 PM EST

@damianainscough yep, several times thanks for another link though! #ASEchat

PsqmTurner Feb 1 @ 3:49 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @doc_kristy @ViciaScience Exactly! Practical = enquiry is a dangerous misconception. #ASEchat

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:49 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @SteveTeachPhys @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson I think there's a lot of truth in that #ASEchat

damianainscough Feb 1 @ 3:50 PM EST

@Tracy_Tyrrell Yes - 'this is my question - how might I answer that?' #asechat

SteveTeachPhys Feb 1 @ 3:50 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @Glazgow @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson that would make sense #asechat

anhalf Feb 1 @ 3:51 PM EST

#asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:52 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @gregtheseal yes #asechat Think secondary take this approach for granted, but now need to explicitly build, so pupils choose

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:52 PM EST

@Tracy_Tyrrell @SteveTeachPhys @stevethedoc1 @hrogerson it's so important for pupils, but also teachers with no science background #asechat

PsqmTurner Feb 1 @ 3:52 PM EST

@dannynic @damianainscough And the progression framework fits with NC working Scientifically #ASEchat

damianainscough Feb 1 @ 3:52 PM EST

#asechat @PsqmTurner @stevethedoc1 @doc_kristy @ViciaScience Yes indeed https://t.co/is2hqk9lT8 https://t.co/s13bWG3rDe

anhalf Feb 1 @ 3:52 PM EST

#asechat #primaryrocks https://t.co/8DbT4BgHuf

tes Jan 24 @ 6:01 AM EST

Primary teachers are hugely important – but undervalued, warns @ProfRWinston https://t.co/xAPrRK0ZAt https://t.co/f2bL7PfJZy

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:53 PM EST

@damianainscough have lost something in current NC on modelling. Always hard to teach, but really important when understanding risk #ASEChat

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:53 PM EST

@damianainscough Are making things and developing systems more applying knowledge? #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:54 PM EST

@NeedhamL56 @gregtheseal #asechat too many folk think practical, experiment, enquiry, investigation, hands on all the same activity/ purpose

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:55 PM EST

@ViciaScience @damianainscough #asechat No! just not mentioned in minimum we should do, so still model, you will look good!!

damianainscough Feb 1 @ 3:56 PM EST

@Tracy_Tyrrell Also creativity, serendipity, trial and error, learning by mistakes? #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:56 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @gregtheseal interchangeable vocabulary… not helpful some enquiry might have no ‘hands on’ but lots of 'minds on’ #ASEchat

damianainscough Feb 1 @ 3:57 PM EST

@ViciaScience Good to think of models at a range of levels. DIgestive system sieve; electricity - water, etc. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:57 PM EST

Wow this hour’s gone quick! in last 4 mins lest have some suggested questions that could be answered by doing an enquiry #ASEchat

SteveTeachPhys Feb 1 @ 3:57 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @NeedhamL56 @gregtheseal practical= one off for engagement/illustration. Enquiry = time consuming & largely trivial?! #asechat

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:57 PM EST

@PriSciEarle @damianainscough Very often, however pattern seeking doesn't have to be done over time, so some differences #asechat

stevethedoc1 Feb 1 @ 3:58 PM EST

@damianainscough #asechat yes always a danger with a list not exhaustive and folk alter it for own ends see NC as current latest list

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Feb 1 @ 3:58 PM EST

@SteveTeachPhys @stevethedoc1 @gregtheseal not trivial to the child who is interested in finding out the answer to their question #ASEchat

PriSciEarle Feb 1 @ 3:58 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @ViciaScience @damianainscough Modelling and problem solving are still among my favourite pri sci #ASEchat

ViciaScience Feb 1 @ 3:59 PM EST

@damianainscough thinking more of modelling from data to create predictions and test #ASEChat

Tracy_Tyrrell Feb 1 @ 3:59 PM EST

@stevethedoc1 @damianainscough lots of scientists/engineers we talk to are computer scientists, mathematical scientists-theoretical #asechat

hrogerson Feb 1 @ 3:59 PM EST

#asechat very proud of myself for letting students design a 'wrong' practical about shadows. Groups realised quickly and adapted. #learning

Glazgow Feb 1 @ 3:59 PM EST

Investigating effect of fertiliser on plant growth - obs over time #asechat