#scitlap Archive


Wednesday September 12, 2018
9:00 PM EDT

  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:00 PM EDT
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    #scitlap chat is starting now! Talking about getting outside with Ss. #tlap #scichat #nyedchat #stanyschat
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Intro: If I'm outdoors it's going to be somewhere I can get sun/swim or I'll be playing a sport. I wish I lived somewhere close to some hiking spots though...that sounds like fun! #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Hi! Thx for joining us. There's no place to hike in Texas? #scitlap
    In reply to @ArmstreetsClass
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Ashley from NY, teach Chemistry and I like camping #scitlap
  • BKd204Sci Sep 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Brian from IL looking forward to #scitlap tonight
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hello #scitlap I'm Scott and I enjoy long walks on the beach and romantic sunsets...
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi everyone. I teach 7th grade in MA. I love hiking and kayking. #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Great you can join us! NY is great for camping. My family didn't get out this summer tho. :( #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:05 PM EDT
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hi Brian! Great you can stop in for a bit of #scitlap tonight.
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hey #scitlap - don't forget to take a minute to follow each other, We science teachers gotta stick together!!
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    My parents are actually going this weekend for their last trip. They also have a few kayaks and a canoe, it’s nice to escape and relax in nature! #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Tonight is all about outside. And be sure to not just think bio. So much earth science, physics, and chem can be experienced outside. #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A1 YES! They are afraid of everything outside, including bugs and dirty shoes! #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Sure is. I need to unplug a few times a year to really refresh. #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1: sometimes the lack of a relationship with nature can hinder the connection they have to certain phenomena #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Great point! #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1 I think it affects some more than others. There is a definite lack of background knowledge. I had to explain that a bird we saw was a goose not a duck once. #scitlap
  • BKd204Sci Sep 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1 Yes I do, today's kids do not enjoy the outdoors, many would rather be inside. I enjoy watching my son play outside w/his friends #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    My favorite (but sad) outdoor story is when outside, a kid said it smells like air freshener out here. I said "really, like the fresh air scent one?" Then I laughed so hard at my own joke! #scitlap
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Yes! Some of the boys cry when they scuff marks on their sneakers.... 🤦‍♀️what do they expect when they wear white sneakers #scitlap
    In reply to @daleyscience
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: Yes! We're a district surrounded by many "things" & not enough nature. There are opportunities to immerse in nature but Ss seem to opt for indoors - if they travel it's exotic/resort type without the "nature" experience. There are too many other "things" to do! #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:11 PM EDT
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    I find some kids WANT to have the experience but don't know what to do or where to go. There is no family culture involving nature. My family spent lots of time hiking. #scitlap
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • BKd204Sci Sep 12 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A2 Not as much as they used to, which is undortunate See less kids fishing at local ponds or just playing outdoors #scitlap
  • jpkidsco_plsas Sep 12 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    #scitlap
    • jpkidsco_plsas Sep 12 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      A2: absolutely. Before/after school the most asked ? Is “is outside open yet?”
  • BKd204Sci Sep 12 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    So true, fewer and fewer families make nature a playground #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A2 Just this week I had a student who immediately asked for the net and said she was going to catch a fish.-She got a minnow! We had a great time outside. #scitlap
  • jpkidsco_plsas Sep 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1: yes, it exists. Some kids don’t know what to “do” outside. #scitlap
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A2: I took my senior bio kids to the zoo last year and was shocked by how many hadn't been since elementary! I know it's not "nature" but it was some of their only exposure to animals outside of cats/dogs in their homes. I want to take them to some wetlands this year! #scitlap
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A2: depends on the activity. My own children love to go outside, ride bikes, go to the playground, swim in the lake. They have so much energy and I prefer they use their imagination instead of watching YouTube all day(which would gladly do) #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A2 It can be tough, but sometimes you can really get them excited! We planted trees! #scitlap
  • jpkidsco_plsas Sep 12 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    #scitlap Chestnut tree planting!
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Nice! Was this something you organized? The school? Lots of my kids fish for stripers on the Hudson. #scitlap
    In reply to @jpkidsco_plsas
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Me too! #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Same with my girls. We have lots of neighbor kids and the parents all kick kids out at the same time. #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2
  • BKd204Sci Sep 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A3 As often as my curriculum allows, Ss relax more when they are outside and are more engaged #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    We also did a Bioblitz last year, took iPads outside to take pics! #scitlap
  • jpkidsco_plsas Sep 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    I am lucky to be a before/after school leader. My team wanted to get fishing going a couple years ago. No standards or timeframes to control us. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    We have a pond and stream just off campus. I just have to bring a walkie talkie radio with me to stay in contact with the office. #scitlap
    In reply to @ArmstreetsClass
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A3: Honestly not often bc there's nowhere to go. Football field, parking lot...those are our options. To take them somewhere more organic I would have to arrange transportation. I wish there were more outdoor opportunities, I would take advantage of them! #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A3 Not often, but yes!!! #scitlap
  • hoffmanteambret Sep 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    New to area but got a mix of ag kids and town kids. Gotta find the perfect mix to meet all the needs. Wish I could spend ALL time outside. #scitlap
  • chris_kittredge Sep 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2: Absolutely! Sometimes they just need to be shown what nature can offer. The easiest way to get them to enjoy it IMO is to grow something. Anything! Our kids really enjoy checking on our fruits and veggies grow everyday. In the winter, we search for animal tracks #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    I do a research project with my HS kids were we compare biodiversity of plants on the football field and a "less mowed" area on campus. Sometimes we need to be creative with what we have. #scitlap
    In reply to @ArmstreetsClass
  • BKd204Sci Sep 12 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Last spring went out to study earth's tilt & seasons, Ss loved it #scitlap
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A3: Last year I took my ss out once in the spring to write their names in chalk and decorate the sidewalk. They had to mass the chalk before and after calculate how many moles of chalk they used #scitlap I wish I had more opportunity to go out with them
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Another great project is determining celestial noon. You kinda need kids at the correct time tho. and sun. #scitlap
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    That's a good idea! Sometimes we just go outside to be outside! Sun...natural lighting...sounds of the outdoors...my room is internal w/ no windows so sometimes it's just about the stimulation of the outdoors and not an activity. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    That chalk project is great! Very cool. #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Sneaky learning right there, love it! #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2, @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    #scitlap What cool spaces could you use in your district?
  • hoffmanteambret Sep 12 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    This is my life too as far as windows. Got several plants started to start a "corner jungle". #scitlap
    In reply to @ArmstreetsClass, @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Same here. I get an herb garden going. Starting geraniums this year. #scitlap
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret, @ArmstreetsClass
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A4: Our new addition will have an outdoor area but I'm not 100% what it will look like or how we'll share the space. I would love more outdoor areas with benches, picnic tables surrounded by flowers and trees! What a nurturing learning environment! #scitlap
  • BKd204Sci Sep 12 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A4 Being is suburban Chicago there are many places to take Ss, #MortonArboretum is one great nature site in our area #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A4 I'd like to get a few picnic tables on our campus. Would much easier to sit and write for Ss. #scitlap
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A4: my school actually has a green house, nature trail, a bicycle path (for the gym classes) and an outdoor “classroom.” We have a horticulture and botany course but I don’t teach those #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    My name is Viktoria. My favorite thing to do outdoors is definitely going on nature walks. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    The beach is the most serene place to be outdoors, definitely! #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Bring nature to you! Birds are great for this. Cornell has good resources. https://t.co/RfRGzZgnU5 #scitlap
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    They were supposed to build a greenhouse when they built our new campus 10 years ago. Got cut in budget. #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2
  • hoffmanteambret Sep 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    You guys are firing me up! I got a whole untapped potential in my area having huge agricultural ties plu a HS greenhouse to walk my 6th G through.#scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A4 We've got great trees and rocks in the front of school. There is an "outdoor Classroom", but I've never used it. Wold love picnic tables! #scitlap
  • BKd204Sci Sep 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Grading and planning calls, great chat tonight! Making me think of ways to get my Ss outside more! #scitlap
  • karlacalbear Sep 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Sorry to jump in late. Karla, 7th grade NGSS Integrated at NAS Lemoore CA #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    #scitlap Please share so others might learn!
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Just a bit jealous. Good landscaping and natural areas do lend to the culture at a school. #scitlap
    In reply to @daleyscience
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A1: "Nature deficit syndrome" definitely plays a role in the classroom. Nowadays, students spend so much of their time indoors. That's why it is so pivotal, now more than ever, to get students enjoying the outdoors. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • karlacalbear Sep 12 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A2-3 Our 6th graders go to Yosemite for 3 days. Our campus has lots of yard but not close to anything to do geology observation or stream studies. We get outside mostly to get out and enjoy the weather. #scitlap
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    I definitely agree, that is funny, but also kind of disappointing that you had to explain that a goose was not a duck lol #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A5 My eighth graders go outside (if it isn't too cold) to measure their running speed and acceleration. I mark off a track and they collect data. #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A5 Bioblitz, American chesnut ecology. living vs. nonliving hike, running type games (Project Wild/Project Wet), ponding, signs of erosion, journaling, senses, observation. #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A5 Forgot about Egg Drop and Catapult launching #scitlap
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A2: I think that students do still enjoy being outdoors, just some more than others. I once substituted and took a 2nd grade class out for recess; I was so disappointed when a few students came up to me short after recess had began asking to go back inside. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A5 Oh, and letterboxing! #scitlap
  • karlacalbear Sep 12 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4 we have a gardening elective but the San Joaquin Valley is like living in a monstrous garden. We grow it all. We have lots of outdoor gathering areas. Our middle schoolers still play, walk & wonder #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Just an example to make a point. Consider an exam with a story or science questions without pictures. Some students would be lost. They just don't have that background knowledge. #scitlap
    In reply to @VRockelmann
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    that's a good way to keep in contact. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra, @ArmstreetsClass
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Sounds like a slice of Eden. #scitlap
    In reply to @karlacalbear
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Lots of Project Wild type stuff you can do outside in a football field! #scitlap
    In reply to @ArmstreetsClass
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A5 More! Going outside to sketch a field and then imagine what it would look like in 1 year, 10 years, and 100 years for succession! #scitlap
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A3: I'm not a full time teacher just yet, but I definitely think the great outdoors can really relax and soothe students. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    Yes! This is what I talk about in my biodiversity lab. I lead it into succession. Great minds think alike @daleyscience #scitlap
    In reply to @daleyscience, @daleyscience
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    #scitlap Got any plans or dreams for lessons?
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Yup. We received a grant for lots of tools t work in our research orchard! #scitlap
    In reply to @EWFDeirdre, @TEDEdFound
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A5: Forensics we draw chalk skeletons IPC we do laws of motion using footballs, baseballs, soccer, etc. Biology we'll do some nature observations on the spring I also would love to get outside just to read or journal #scitlap
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    That's a really neat and interactive activity! #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2, @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    It does. But the unfamiliar can make some students anxious as well. Get to know your Ss first and judge what is appropriate. #scitlap
    In reply to @VRockelmann
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A5: I have a hard time finding/ justifying ways to take my ss outside to do chemistry. Would love some more ideas aside from my chalk lab. Also tough when we are always in a time constraint to get through curriculum #scitlap
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Very cool! #scitlap
    In reply to @ArmstreetsClass
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Water chemistry? There are some great kits to measure DO and other parameters. #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A4: Yes, my high school had a garden and even a garden club that students could join. For my biology class we also went through the nature trail at my school where we observed different plants. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • karlacalbear Sep 12 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A5 @ProjectWILD Oh Deer, Scott already mentioned Joseph Cornell Listening to Nature, playing sports with an eye patch (depth perception), measuring large areas after averaging paces, giving directions to a blind on path #scitlap
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    I used to teach chem... ...can draw atomic structure or bonding with chalk outdoors ... can do bonding speed dating outdoors ...can do fizzy rockets for combustion reactions Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head! Lol! #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    That's cool that there was an outdoor classroom. I have always wished I was able to go to a high school nearby my house, that's by the ocean. The high school would sometimes have their Oceanography class on the beach. #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2, @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    You are an endless fountain of ideas! #scitlap
    In reply to @karlacalbear, @ProjectWILD
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    That's really disappointing ! #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra, @ashley_green2
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:45 PM EDT
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    @AmadioLifeSci What was the name of that cow/wolf game? #scitlap
    In reply to @ArmstreetsClass, @AmadioLifeSci
  • karlacalbear Sep 12 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A6 I would love to go off base and observe wildlife in large open meadow or even go to the river to do our samples instead of me being water in, visit a dam, go to local farms to learn about irrigation systems #scitlap
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    Very true! I think preparations beforehand could be very helpful. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A7 Letting the office know you are outside, take a walkie talkie, go over expectations/rules ahead of time, use REMIND for appropriate shoes/dress, respect time for other teachers/classes. #scitlap
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A7: lots of safety concerns- student allergies (pollen, bee stings), asthma, brining epipens/ inhalers on walks outside, students wandering off, smoking/ vaping.... #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A7 I check allergies beforehand. I also have to make sure I have a walkie radio on me. If I'm directly outside I just need to let the front office know where I am. #scitlap
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Very true! #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    #scitlap CTA!
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    I have had only a few problems with Ss outside like wandering off. Thankfully most are respectful and appreciate the opportunity to do something different. #scitlap
    In reply to @ashley_green2
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    A6: Plant trees (they're so important)! Go on a nature hike! Plan reading/journaling days for outdoors! #scitlap
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A7: Allergies, emergency contact, cultural/ethnic awarenesses, weather (backup plans for bad weather or changes), etc. #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Back up plans are so important and I'm glad you mentioned it. I have the "rain plan" ready for those days I want to go out with Ss. #scitlap
    In reply to @ArmstreetsClass
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    CTA: I'm glad that I was reminded tonight of all of the possibilities. My CTA is just to make sure and go outside as much as possible, especially b/c I can get caught up in technology very easily. #scitlap
  • ArmstreetsClass Sep 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    CTA: Be more purposeful in my planning, look for more ways to incorporate the outdoors, seek out new opportunities for students. #scitlap
  • ashley_green2 Sep 12 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    CTA: I’m going to keep the idea of getting outside with my ss in the back of my head when planning and try to get out more! #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • daleyscience - Moderator Sep 12 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Can you expand on cultural awareness, I'm not sure what you mean..... #scitlap
    In reply to @ArmstreetsClass
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Same here! I get so involved in tech sometimes. It is much harder with the physical sciences than bio too. #scitlap
    In reply to @daleyscience
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    I think exploring is a fun idea to do outside with students. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra
  • karlacalbear Sep 12 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A7. Appropriate dress, stay in pairs, gets lots of parent volunteers, Meds, hats & light backpacks, phone, drinks, bathroom options. #scitlap
  • pentaclethra Sep 12 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    CTA: Remember outside as one of my #tlap hooks. "Is this something we could do outside?" #scitlap
  • VRockelmann Sep 12 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    A6: I think exploring is a lot of fun, find certain objects depending on their age. #scitlap
    In reply to @pentaclethra