#MOedchat Archive
The water cooler for Missouri educators! Learn and laugh with us!
Thursday August 24, 2017
10:00 PM EDT
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#MOedchat
! Please introduce yourself, share your role in ed & where in the world you’re tweeting from tonight!
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Aug 24 @ 10:00 PM EDT
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vicking02
Aug 24 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Thanks for being here, Andy! I look forward to
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#eduar
In reply to @awall777
El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:01 PM EDT
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Chris Elfrink Woodland HS in SEMo
#Wr4Cards
beachy2111351
Aug 24 @ 10:01 PM EDT
I am a paraprofessional from NJ
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aimeecmyers
Aug 24 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Aimee Myers, English Ed prof
@UCentralMO
, new to Missouri & first timer for
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MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
The
#MOedchat
modteam is excited to learn with and from you tonight!
e_whalen
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Erin, mid-MO, owner of
@ShamandSun
Ctr for Kids and Teens, tutor, sub, PD, etc., former T and Prin
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#DitchBook
GeoJo22
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Joanne from Lee's Summit, MO. I teach 7th grade world history and 11th grade modern global issues.
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us!
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In reply to @El_FrinkELA
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us!
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In reply to @beachy2111351
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Hi! I'm Hannah from St. Louis. I teach 6th grade Ss & am piloting standards-based grading this year
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Hi Vicki!
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In reply to @vicking02, @awall777
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Ed Beckmann, Instructional Coach from Hazelwood, ready for
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!
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Welcome to MO!
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In reply to @aimeecmyers, @UCentralMO
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Hi Christopher!
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In reply to @El_FrinkELA
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Andy Innovation Teacher in St. Charles MO
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HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Welcome to Missouri!
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In reply to @aimeecmyers, @UCentralMO
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Glad you’re joining
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tonight, Stephanie!
In reply to @beachy2111351
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Theres a GIF!
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In reply to @MrBeckmann
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Hi Aimee!
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In reply to @aimeecmyers, @UCentralMO
cristinnowak
Aug 24 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Good evening! I'm Cristin a MS principal in MO
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Hi Erin! How is you leg?
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In reply to @e_whalen, @ShamandSun
jtalburt
Aug 24 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Jenny Talburt, 4th grade teacher from Springfield, MO!
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In reply to @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Hi Joanne! Hope your year is off to a great start!
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In reply to @GeoJo22
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Welcome and what a beautiful evening it is!
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In reply to @cristinnowak
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1- Give a brief description of what grading looks like in your class/school
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MsLaurenMertz
Aug 24 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Lauren, K-4 reading T, from St. Charles just getting home from back to school social.
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us!
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In reply to @jtalburt, @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Hi Hannah! Glad you can share your experience with standards-based grading!
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In reply to @HJohnsonOMS
e_whalen
Aug 24 @ 10:05 PM EDT
I'm bouncing between
#DitchBook
and
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In reply to @jmattmiller, @ShamandSun
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:05 PM EDT
#GIFpower
!
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In reply to @MsLaurenMertz
Link_pd
Aug 24 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Tara from Moberly, MO. New T induction/Ed Tech PD In & out tonight
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Love it, Ed!
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In reply to @MrBeckmann
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:05 PM EDT
What is uuuuuuup
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?? Josh from Fulton in the hizzouse! I hope kids still talk like this.
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1 I don’t actually give grades, I rely on Ss to decide if they got it or not, proof via product
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Hi Cristin!
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In reply to @cristinnowak
e_whalen
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Staples out today and cast off. Now I have this giant boot that feels like a toddler permanently attached to my leg!
#moedchat
In reply to @debbiefuco
MsLaurenMertz
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1: We use standards based grading at my school.
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
That’s so 2000 and late bro
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In reply to @joshchoward
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Hi Jenny! I taught 4th grade for 6 years and loved it!
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In reply to @jtalburt, @MOedchat
e_whalen
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
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In reply to @debbiefuco
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Nathan and you know
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GambillJulie
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Julie from Poplar Bluff, PBJHS, English 8
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brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Evening,
#moedchat
. I'm Brian. I teach MS Ss Eng in CO. Grading's been on my mind lately, so this seemed like an appropriate chat venue...
El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1: Ours are traditional. Our Hs & Ms put more weight on summative grades. I try and combine trad w/ standards based
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:07 PM EDT
We know…
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In reply to @nathan_stevens
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Gif game on point.
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In reply to @MsLaurenMertz
LemarrTreadwell
Aug 24 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Hello
#MOedchat
. Lemarr Treadwell, Fresno CA
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:07 PM EDT
You’ve come to the right place
#moedchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1 sort of like this
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In reply to @MOedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Please elaborate
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:07 PM EDT
I am glad that is out of the way
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In reply to @awall777
GambillJulie
Aug 24 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: I allow students to help set the guidelines that match the MLS. Grades should reflect scores on MAP testing. I don't test.
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HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1: Our MS is switching over to standards-based grading over the next few years
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GeoJo22
Aug 24 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1 Grades are mostly unit assessments for me. Everything can be corrected or redone. Late work is accepted.
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e_whalen
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1: very traditional :(
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
It is a tough change for Ps to understand how that all works
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In reply to @HJohnsonOMS
jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Jonathon here, A1- Proof in Product! A PIP you want to be a part of!
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Luckily, I don't give grades!
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nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Every student starts with an A and on them to keep it. So the grade is invisible
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In reply to @awall777, @MOedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1 I'm a standards based guy,but we work with a traditional system,so I'm creative.Proficiency scales and choice based assessments
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jtalburt
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1: Lots of anecdotal records and checklists. Rubrics and reflections. Struggling to get it to fit into ABCs for the report card.
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Well said
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nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Every student starts with an A and on them to keep it. So the grade is invisible
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In reply to @awall777, @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Glad you’re here after such a busy day!
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In reply to @MsLaurenMertz
cristinnowak
Aug 24 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1 Our's standards based influenced - traditional letter grades, but the grade is primarily based on what they show they know
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:10 PM EDT
Explain your Proficiency scales please
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In reply to @joshchoward
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1 Standards-ish based practices, school-wide. Class level: amping up feedback loops, delaying taint of grades til last moment
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Link_pd
Aug 24 @ 10:10 PM EDT
Nothing to brag about :) Although conversations are happening for growth in this area
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HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:10 PM EDT
I agree, but I think it will be more useful to see where Ss really struggle
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In reply to @awall777
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:10 PM EDT
Oh yeah!
#bringingitback
!
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In reply to @El_FrinkELA
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1: K-2 is standards based, 3-5 has a trad. report card. Would love to have standards based report card systems across the board.
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:10 PM EDT
Hi Tara!
#moedchat
In reply to @Link_pd
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Hey Joshua! Great to see you!
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In reply to @joshchoward
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Anecdotal is often seen as not adequate, how do you get ppl to understand the importance of it?
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In reply to @jtalburt
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Progress!
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In reply to @e_whalen
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A2: Despite mostly traditional report cards we do have standards based reporting with some of our unit assessments.
#moedchat
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:11 PM EDT
If you use a different assessment, shouldn't all students start with developing (1)? Hope to move them to extending (4).
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @awall777, @MOedchat
MsLaurenMertz
Aug 24 @ 10:11 PM EDT
I don't give grades either. I give feedback to Ss & parents based on what I see Ss do in class.
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In reply to @debbiefuco
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:11 PM EDT
It is better than an arbitrary letter based on a test given on an arbitrary day :)
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In reply to @HJohnsonOMS
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:12 PM EDT
Hey Nathan!
#moedchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:12 PM EDT
Word
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In reply to @brynmw, @awall777, @MOedchat
e_whalen
Aug 24 @ 10:12 PM EDT
Getting this ginormous boot on today is making me 😴 Good night, everyone! Hope I can stick around longer next week!
#moedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:12 PM EDT
Hi Julie!
#moedchat
In reply to @GambillJulie
jtalburt
Aug 24 @ 10:12 PM EDT
It's what drives all my teaching decisions!
#MOedchat
In reply to @awall777
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:12 PM EDT
Thanks. I've created some checklists I think will be good to use.
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In reply to @El_FrinkELA
aimeecmyers
Aug 24 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A1- I like to allow students to collaboratively create the rubric. Makes them think about the assignment and self-directed goals
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nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Hi Debbie
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In reply to @debbiefuco
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Necessity is the mother of invention, or so the old saw says.
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joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A1 I'm a standards based guy,but we work with a traditional system,so I'm creative.Proficiency scales and choice based assessments
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brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Is the word, word? Or is the word, banana?
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @awall777, @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Hi Brian! Looking to learn more about grading, this is the right place!
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In reply to @brianrozinsky
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
As it should!
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In reply to @jtalburt
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A1: Despite mostly traditional report cards we do have standards based reporting with some of our unit assessments.
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GeoJo22
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
They do! Eventually :)
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In reply to @GambillJulie
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
No, but I did get to observe her! I was with with K. Taylor
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In reply to @jtalburt, @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Hi Lamarr!
#moedchat
In reply to @LemarrTreadwell
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2- What is your purpose for giving grades?
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Perhaps as the current 2nd graders move up, so does the standards based?
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In reply to @MrBeckmann
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
No, no, no, we all know that the bird is the word
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In reply to @brynmw, @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Love this. I did this last century (I'm old) in IB biology. Amazing what they come up with.
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aimeecmyers
Aug 24 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A1- I like to allow students to collaboratively create the rubric. Makes them think about the assignment and self-directed goals
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nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
goal is to take the focus on the grade and focus on the journey. If a student is only focus on their grade, what are they learning
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In reply to @brynmw, @awall777, @MOedchat
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Evidently! Or I may be looking to learn *less* about grading in favor of alternatives that better reflect learning + next steps
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In reply to @debbiefuco
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
The word is sizzle
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In reply to @brynmw, @awall777, @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
I’d like to see how MS handles standards-based grading.
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In reply to @HJohnsonOMS
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2 I guess, to give a quantitative showing of knowledge? I don’t really think that a grade, in the standard sense, means much
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nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:15 PM EDT
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In reply to @awall777, @brynmw, @MOedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:15 PM EDT
4/3/2/1 - Each number is ascribed to level of observed/anecdotal assessment. Once I've seen a kid do it, I can grade it
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In reply to @awall777
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:15 PM EDT
Make it happen!
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In reply to @MrBeckmann
El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2: In my colleg prep classes it is to show the Ss their level of proficiency w/ the standards otherwise traditional reasons
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LemarrTreadwell
Aug 24 @ 10:15 PM EDT
Hi Debbie.
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Hi Lamarr!
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In reply to @LemarrTreadwell
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:15 PM EDT
Fo shizzle, bizzle
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @brynmw, @MOedchat
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:16 PM EDT
I love calling it "feedback". Showing Ss importance of using it to improve, not just get a grade then move on
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In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @debbiefuco
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 If you ask me, grades aren't very useful. Feedback is awesome. But giving a letter or a % doesn't do much for anyone
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Agree! Communication is so important when Ps are expecting traditional grades. How do school communicate this?
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
It is a tough change for Ps to understand how that all works
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In reply to @HJohnsonOMS
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Exactly. What are they really learning when it's about percentage points? I didn't get a percentage on my driving test. Just p/f
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @awall777, @MOedchat
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 to appease the higher up masses
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In reply to @MOedchat
shspjones
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:16 PM EDT
If you are looking for an easy rubric that keeps all Ss in one file go to Alice Keeler and get her add on for Google sheets
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brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2 Dealing in accepted currency of the land while having ongoing conversations about alternate methods of proverbial payment
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jerikh
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A1: Just worked on phase 3 of standards based grading with admins today!
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Unless you are given a percentage to correlate the respective number, then you are covering trad. with standards.
#beenthere
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In reply to @joshchoward
GambillJulie
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2: I believe that my grading system matches how well Ss measure up on state testing, but mostly it pleases the system.
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MsLaurenMertz
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
As an interventionist a grade wouldn't mean much. Feedback on what the S can do and what the next steps are is important to me.
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In reply to @HJohnsonOMS, @debbiefuco
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2: grades are about ranking students, not about learning. For college entrance, it's like comparing apples to race cars.
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MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q2- What is your purpose for giving grades?
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nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Speaking of Canada and driving test, I love the Canada's worst driver show
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In reply to @brynmw, @awall777, @MOedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
It's a vicious cycle. Higher ups really want those %'s.
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In reply to @awall777
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
I agree that feedback > grades
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2b Grades mean “This child did this by this date”, it seems pretty subjective to me
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shspjones
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2 I think a lot of parents don't really know how subjective graded are you can literally make them up
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jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2- purpose was compliance for the system we had in place. Feedback given around specific learning goals was focus for Ss & Ps!
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In reply to @MOedchat
jtalburt
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2: I see grades mostly as one method of communication with parents. For some Ss, they're motivation for work, but not for most.
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
I didn't use the popcorn button and I'm loving this conversation
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PrincipalCroley
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
It's been a while, and I'm jumping in late tonight to
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brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
Great. Now that song is in my head. Where's Stewie and Brian when you need them?
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @awall777, @MOedchat
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
We are still working on this, would love ideas / suggestions!
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In reply to @debbiefuco
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:18 PM EDT
#classicnathan
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nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Speaking of Canada and driving test, I love the Canada's worst driver show
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In reply to @brynmw, @awall777, @MOedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Yep, need to change that
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In reply to @joshchoward
MsLaurenMertz
Aug 24 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: Grades are for ranking people.
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MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: Learning doesn't occur without feedback.
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nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:20 PM EDT
You are such a rebel
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In reply to @awall777
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:20 PM EDT
It's also what parents understand.If you don't include your parent community in the conversation grades will be here forever.
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
LemarrTreadwell
Aug 24 @ 10:20 PM EDT
A2. Grades are for checking the mentality of Ss, and show level of their growth ... to them.
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:20 PM EDT
But they stress GPA for college purposes, what if they stressed digital portfolios or other actual proof of learning?
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In reply to @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:20 PM EDT
A diploma means you do adequate work
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In reply to @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @awall777, @MOedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Danger is my middle name.
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In reply to @nathan_stevens
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:21 PM EDT
I m all for portfolios for college entrance
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In reply to @awall777, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Agree! Anyone with experience justifying anecdotal?
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:11 PM EDT
Anecdotal is often seen as not adequate, how do you get ppl to understand the importance of it?
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In reply to @jtalburt
cristinnowak
Aug 24 @ 10:21 PM EDT
It's been a work in progress, but we're in a good place-grades that are representative of knowledge & communicate to S and P
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In reply to @El_FrinkELA
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:21 PM EDT
I think that's me in the white sedan (EU license plates, though)
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @awall777, @MOedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:21 PM EDT
I’ve got a couple of those, I do more than adequate though…
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In reply to @nathan_stevens, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @MOedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Yeah. It's a two front battle. Many Ps freak out if they don't have the letter or the %.
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In reply to @MrBeckmann, @awall777
jerikh
Aug 24 @ 10:21 PM EDT
A2: We use 5-7 data points in time to determine if students have shown mastery. We look at student mastery and growth.
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nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:21 PM EDT
I thought it was brick.
#hahahahahahaha
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In reply to @awall777
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Just finished reading one of his books! Love it!
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In reply to @MrBeckmann
PrincipalCroley
Aug 24 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A2: grades are used to compare to others, while feedback provides ways to grow for the individual Ss
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Funny story… I insisted on naming my son that, got shot down by the wifey…
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In reply to @nathan_stevens
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q3- What are some ways you could give a grade without attaching a letter?
#moedchat
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A2.2
#moedchat
Purposes for giving grades seem to boil down to 2: there's the stick & then there's:
esarmarbo1972
Aug 24 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Nissan Altima SR Sedan 4 Door (2016)
#Nissan
https://t.co/X6guXwjjDx
I bought my car in 2017 January. It has no
#moedchat
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Reminds me of the 'rumour' of the Eng T throwing the essays
https://t.co/zCoC7JUNwz
grade 2nd from bottom, not 2much not 2 little.
#MOedchat
In reply to @shspjones
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:23 PM EDT
That would have be awesome
#moedchat
In reply to @awall777
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
And for you kindergarteners out there Diploma starts with D
#moedchat
In reply to @aimeecmyers, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @awall777, @MOedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 By sharing a Ss product or creation that shows they learned and applied their new knowledge
#moedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 Alternatives to Letter Grading
https://t.co/yp0gRaJLVa
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
I am making Dig. Port. for all Ss 3rd and up, need the colleges to get it together in less than 10 yrs… how do we do that?
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
Portfolios can get very subjective
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA, @awall777, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
Great idea!
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Perhaps as the current 2nd graders move up, so does the standards based?
#moedchat
In reply to @MrBeckmann
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
But the S decides what goes and what stays, not the teacher
#moedchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @El_FrinkELA, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @MOedchat
jerikh
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A2: We are also incorporating student goal setting and examining student led conferences for the spring.
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A3 Digital portfolios with iterative feedback cycles. Much more valuable and requires reflection, which standard grades don't.
#moedchat
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:25 PM EDT
In this way, portfolio assessing has something in common with many grading routines ;)
#moedchat
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
Portfolios can get very subjective
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA, @awall777, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @MOedchat
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:25 PM EDT
We teachers are great thieves. Consider this stolen!
#MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 Alternatives to Letter Grading
https://t.co/yp0gRaJLVa
#moedchat
GeoJo22
Aug 24 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A2 I give grades to satisfy other people's expectations based on an antiquated system. For the S, a grade measures progress.
#moedchat
shspjones
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:25 PM EDT
I swear I had a prof who graded on weight of paper
#moedchat
In reply to @brynmw
El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A3: Go w/ DESE: Bb, Basic, Prof, Adv I convert that to a numerical system when scoring PBL products then give Ss feedback
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:25 PM EDT
So true
#moedchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky
cristinnowak
Aug 24 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A2: Communication, but the work of an entire assign, test, class is hard to say in 1grade-rubric, SB report card more informative
#moedchat
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3: if it's an assessment, it's easier. Grades are connected too closely with percentages and letters....
#MOedchat
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q3- What are some ways you could give a grade without attaching a letter?
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:26 PM EDT
This is why I am a big proponent of design thinking. The product can show learning, often times much better than a number.
#moedchat
In reply to @awall777
shspjones
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:26 PM EDT
Grade inflation is also a problem
#MOedchat
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3: I like the idea of a portfolio or ongoing projects where Ss can prove / improve skills
#moedchat
jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3- What is Ss generated Expectation Adjectives that we could attach to their learning progression?
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
MsLaurenMertz
Aug 24 @ 10:26 PM EDT
We use student led conferences at my school. No surprises for Ss or Ts.
#moedchat
In reply to @jerikh
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:27 PM EDT
And yet standards-based practices frown on docking results due to *wait* of paper (i.e., late work)
#moedchat
In reply to @shspjones, @brynmw
aimeecmyers
Aug 24 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3- Narrative feedback using 3-2-1. 3 strong components, 2 areas for growth, 1 question I offer to encourage reflection
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:27 PM EDT
For real. Kleenex boxes for extra credit????
#moedchat
In reply to @shspjones
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:28 PM EDT
I LOVE
#designthinking
My Ss are going to do a big project this year that incorporates pretty much all my standards
#MOedchat
In reply to @joshchoward, @awall777
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:28 PM EDT
Please elaborate, though I like the jeopardy response!
#moedchat
In reply to @jleeTechPercent, @MOedchat
stroisila
Aug 24 @ 10:28 PM EDT
Oldsmobile 442 W 30 (1970)
#Oldsmobile
https://t.co/cYAv1QB2bW
1970 Oldsmobile 442 W 30Top Line
#moedchat
jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:28 PM EDT
Oops, What if, now What is. Silly auto-correct!
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
Link_pd
Aug 24 @ 10:29 PM EDT
When your child in HS, it's a struggle as parent & T. "It's about learning not grades" vs "GPA for scholarships is key"
#moedchat
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:29 PM EDT
A3 Place responsibility on students to attach letter & defend via evidence. As T, prepare them for metacognitive challenge.
#moedchat
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:29 PM EDT
And they should. Lateness is not a standard. (Love the pun, though)
#MOedchat
In reply to @brianrozinsky, @shspjones
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:30 PM EDT
We all have to blow our noses in the winter? I mean, if it gets more kleenex, why not?
#moedchat
In reply to @joshchoward, @shspjones
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A3 A comment on a Google Doc can give feedback and guidance much better than a letter can. All about feedback...
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Another great reason to emphasize student portfolios for assessment. Have the students show off their products.
#moedchat
In reply to @MsLaurenMertz, @jerikh
MsLaurenMertz
Aug 24 @ 10:30 PM EDT
I work at elementary so it's just the way we do it.
#moedchat
In reply to @jtalburt, @jerikh
nathan_stevens
Aug 24 @ 10:30 PM EDT
But if you are being admitted to a college based on your work, the faculty that are looking matter in what they want
#moedchat
In reply to @awall777, @El_FrinkELA, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @MOedchat
GambillJulie
Aug 24 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A3: CFA data,✔️ that objective off, PBL no testing, I ❤️ the digital portfolio ideas. We used 2 have file folders back in the day.
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Plus, they see what others are doing and it can motivate them to give it more than a letter’s worth of effort
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA, @nathan_stevens, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @MOedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:31 PM EDT
Apparently there are some cars for sale on
#moedchat
tonight...
cristinnowak
Aug 24 @ 10:31 PM EDT
#moedchat
In reply to @joshchoward, @shspjones
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:31 PM EDT
Quite the conundrum…
#moedchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @El_FrinkELA, @GambillJulie, @brynmw, @MOedchat
brynmw
Aug 24 @ 10:31 PM EDT
Many Unies in BC are looking at personal essays over 'grades'. It's a start, we don't use SATs and our provincial exams are gone.
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA, @awall777, @GambillJulie, @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:31 PM EDT
Teaching Ss Growth Mindset is effective & inspiring language that they can understand & relate to rather than a grade.
#moedchat
jerikh
Aug 24 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A1: Just worked on phase 3 of standards based grading with admins today!
#moedchat
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Q4- Do grades do what they are supposed to do?
#moedchat
Kenny_pal2
Aug 24 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Talk of "
#moedchat
" on free chat Chat channel
https://t.co/22cZNWJx9j
jtalburt
Aug 24 @ 10:32 PM EDT
When work is differentiated, what's an A? Working well at their own level & making progress? Or only if working on grade level?
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Well geez, I think I'll give double extra credit for detailing my car then. I've had this all wrong the whole time.
#moedchat
In reply to @awall777, @shspjones
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Ah, Canada, with your universal health care and all that :)
#moedchat
In reply to @brynmw, @El_FrinkELA, @GambillJulie, @nathan_stevens, @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4 Love this image! Great reminder
https://t.co/au4C5MpGBM
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4 I don’t think so in most schools, I think they show compliance and not knowledge or growth
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Now, you’re talking! Us Ts need to get something out of all this grading right?
#sarcasm
#moedchat
In reply to @joshchoward, @shspjones
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:33 PM EDT
A4 If you mean sort crudely, then yeah.
#moedchat
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Q4- Do grades do what they are supposed to do?
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cristinnowak
Aug 24 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4: What's that exactly? Communicate? Not nearly as well as all other forms of effective feedback that we give. Convo>ltr grade
#moedchat
aimeecmyers
Aug 24 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4- I mean... what are they "supposed" to do? Terrify? Hold accountable? Quantify proficiency?
#moedchat
jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4- no. Unless you redefine "grades"
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:34 PM EDT
Have you seen the YouCubed website?
https://t.co/nGpdTohUI9
#moedchat
#growthmindset
El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Love these ideas, have tried or witnessed many, but they all work best with a healthy academic atmosphere which isn't everywhere
In reply to @debbiefuco
PrincipalCroley
Aug 24 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4: if purpose is to rank and penalize, then the answer is yes. Especially when using the 20th Century 100-point scale.
#MOedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:34 PM EDT
Does it really mean anything if its not personalized? Usually just that you completed set assignments and regurgitated answers
#moedchat
In reply to @jtalburt
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4.2 Um, perpetuate inequities?
#moedchat
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Q4- Do grades do what they are supposed to do?
#moedchat
shspjones
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4 only if they get really high grade otherwise say 80% a parent has no idea which has 80 so no way to understand
#MOedchat
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A4: No. Plain and simple.
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4 Grades do a great job of telling you what the teacher cares about. That's about it.
#moedchat
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4: A great question to ask is if the grade is a true indicator of student learning and growth or teacher compliance.
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4b I always did well in school because I could play the game, didn’t always really learn
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:37 PM EDT
They are so much about compliance in the traditional sense!
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In reply to @MrBeckmann
jerikh
Aug 24 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4 If mastery students can retain and demonstrate knowledge. Why should grades be a shock to Ss if authentic.
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:37 PM EDT
I had Ts that used them for all of the above and more! I had a science teacher give me an F for adjusting my goggles in chem lab!
#moedchat
In reply to @aimeecmyers
GambillJulie
Aug 24 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A4: They make those who struggle opt out. Ss who do well always do well or Ps have fits. Avg Ss aren't allowed to grow.
#moedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Ss really get
#growthmindset
Love how they use the vocabulary with each other.
#moedchat
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Just did a lesson today on
#growthmindset
In reply to @debbiefuco
jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:38 PM EDT
A4b- so many grades are inflated for effort! Talk about subjective.
#moedchat
In reply to @awall777
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Same here! Figure out what the T wants & you're all set
#MOedchat
In reply to @awall777
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:38 PM EDT
If you suck up enough, you will get a letter bump
#moedchat
In reply to @jleeTechPercent
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Precisely!
#moedchat
In reply to @HJohnsonOMS
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:39 PM EDT
And the inverse. Many punitive measures are taken with grades. Most of the time they have no relevance on competency.
#moedchat
In reply to @jleeTechPercent, @awall777
El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:39 PM EDT
A4: Dep on who you ask. Ss-yeah they make sure work gets done. Ts-yeah it makes Ss do work. Prog Ts-heck no they do the opposite.
#moedchat
hearthometown
Aug 24 @ 10:39 PM EDT
I May Live In Montana But ... Buy Now=>
https://t.co/tmjMuFHKsU
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:40 PM EDT
I really try to make sure none of my Ss feel that way, I hated middle/high school because of that
#moedchat
In reply to @GambillJulie
LemarrTreadwell
Aug 24 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Same here, Andy.
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:40 PM EDT
I really try to make sure none of my Ss feel that way, I hated middle/high school because of that
#moedchat
In reply to @GambillJulie
GeoJo22
Aug 24 @ 10:40 PM EDT
A3 A holistic rubric maybe, but I have not used one.
#moedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Breed conformity? shame?
#moedchat
aimeecmyers
Aug 24 @ 10:34 PM EDT
A4- I mean... what are they "supposed" to do? Terrify? Hold accountable? Quantify proficiency?
#moedchat
jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:40 PM EDT
Yep, have seen scoring guides where 70%+ of pts are for non-content. If you put your name on paper you get a C!
#moedchat
In reply to @joshchoward, @awall777
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Q5- If you didn’t give grades, how would you show growth?
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Excellent GIF use, you get an automatic extra 10% tonight
#moedchat
In reply to @MrBeckmann, @joshchoward, @jleeTechPercent
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:42 PM EDT
A5 Products, Creations, Demonstrations
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Compliance is not teaching.
#moedchat
In reply to @GambillJulie
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Refining the Q: If I didn't give grades, wouldn't the onus fall on students to show growth & I could coach them towards that goal?
#moedchat
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Q5- If you didn’t give grades, how would you show growth?
#moedchat
LemarrTreadwell
Aug 24 @ 10:43 PM EDT
Ian, and teens get that right away and turn-off.
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Compliance is not teaching.
#moedchat
In reply to @GambillJulie
GambillJulie
Aug 24 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5: Progress portfolios, work samples: writing, reading reflections, student goal sheets, parent/community student showcases.
#moedchat
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5: I'd show growth through pretest/posttests and running records of student work
#moedchat
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:43 PM EDT
Q5b and go!
#moedchat
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:42 PM EDT
Refining the Q: If I didn't give grades, wouldn't the onus fall on students to show growth & I could coach them towards that goal?
#moedchat
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Q5- If you didn’t give grades, how would you show growth?
#moedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:43 PM EDT
Like taking off points for each day a test isn’t returned on time : (
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4 Grades do a great job of telling you what the teacher cares about. That's about it.
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:44 PM EDT
You’re never to young to learn, I taught myself guitar at 21
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA
jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A5- Leadership binders/folders to corral product so Ss can display their growth for student-led conferences.
#moedchat
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A5: What if a S's performance in a class was like a resume'. In this class, I could do this skill and gained experience here etc.
#moedchat
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:44 PM EDT
There’s a poster in this tweet somewhere!
#moedchat
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A4: A great question to ask is if the grade is a true indicator of student learning and growth or teacher compliance.
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Proof of learning
#moedchat
GambillJulie
Aug 24 @ 10:43 PM EDT
A5: Progress portfolios, work samples: writing, reading reflections, student goal sheets, parent/community student showcases.
#moedchat
devilselbowpod
Aug 24 @ 10:44 PM EDT
Wing: Reading through
#moedchat
is a really interesting look at education. (Ostrich works in a public education; I'm always intrigued.)
GeoJo22
Aug 24 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A4 If you're into competition, grades do that. When Ss are worried about pts, they're not thinking about learning.
#moedchat
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A5: Ss create end product showing skills, reflecting on growth throughout unit / year
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:45 PM EDT
And why I was never a valedictorian…
#moedchat
In reply to @GambillJulie
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A5 Compare quality of work in relation to prior iterations or exemplars that Ss & I unpack. What's different? better? still to do?
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:46 PM EDT
Yes!
#moedchat
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A5: What if a S's performance in a class was like a resume'. In this class, I could do this skill and gained experience here etc.
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:46 PM EDT
A5 Portfolios. Collected works of the student. I mean, look at what they've done from A to Z. It's real.
#moedchat
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:46 PM EDT
And by pre/post I mean some sort of performance / product / application of skill not actual "tests". I hate those...
#MOedchat
El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A5: authentic demonstration of mastery of the standards--the Ss doing what they're supposed to be able to do
#moedchat
jerikh
Aug 24 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A5: Ss work samples, portfolios, demonstrations, formative and summative assessments with differentiated re-teaching
#moedchat
LemarrTreadwell
Aug 24 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Hannah brings up a powerful point. Allowing Ss multiple opportunities to show growth & learning.
#moedchat
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A5: Ss create end product showing skills, reflecting on growth throughout unit / year
#moedchat
juleach
Aug 24 @ 10:47 PM EDT
What an awesome opportunity in KC!!
#stem
#kcedu
#kckps
#ksedchat
#moedchat
https://t.co/ToziPQ01yo
El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A5.2 if Ss don't master at their grade level then "score" based on the grade level they do master at
#moedchat
GeoJo22
Aug 24 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A5 Feedback - personal and constructive.
#moedchat
In reply to @MOedchat
chuckcbaker
Aug 24 @ 10:47 PM EDT
That's a challenge! If I'm not giving my students opportunities for a good resume, it's more evident I didn't do my job.
#moedchat
In reply to @MrBeckmann
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:47 PM EDT
Dear Josh, I like how you used words that mean something, I’m going to give you an extra 3 bonus points.
#moedchat
In reply to @joshchoward
LemarrTreadwell
Aug 24 @ 10:48 PM EDT
What Christopher just shared. BOOM!
#moedchat
El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:47 PM EDT
A5: authentic demonstration of mastery of the standards--the Ss doing what they're supposed to be able to do
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:48 PM EDT
“Authentic” earns you an extra bonus point!
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:48 PM EDT
Yippie! Playing school pays off again!
#moedchat
In reply to @awall777
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:49 PM EDT
Problematic devil's advocacy: Something that Ss have historically been supposed to be able to do = take tests
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:49 PM EDT
Instead of bonus points, you get gold stars!
#seewhatididthere
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:50 PM EDT
Q6- Perfect world, grades or not?
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:50 PM EDT
It took me like 4 years to play and sing… since then I have had a very slow growth…
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:50 PM EDT
Chuck! Thanks for joining us!
#moedchat
In reply to @chuckcbaker, @MrBeckmann
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:50 PM EDT
What? I can't even inflate that with endless piles of homework and extra credit! What are you trying to do here, guy???
#moedchat
In reply to @El_FrinkELA
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:50 PM EDT
Yes!
#moedchat
In reply to @GambillJulie, @joshchoward
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:51 PM EDT
A6 Not, instead showcases of what Ss did
#moedchat
aimeecmyers
Aug 24 @ 10:51 PM EDT
A6-
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:51 PM EDT
Make it a wordsearch and you're speaking my language.
#moedchat
In reply to @GambillJulie, @awall777
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:51 PM EDT
Excellent GIF use, you get an extra 5 gold stars!
#moedchat
In reply to @aimeecmyers
debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:51 PM EDT
Love this idea! Do you have an example?
#inspired
#moedchat
MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:44 PM EDT
A5: What if a S's performance in a class was like a resume'. In this class, I could do this skill and gained experience here etc.
#moedchat
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:52 PM EDT
10 more!
#moedchat
In reply to @aimeecmyers
HJohnsonOMS
Aug 24 @ 10:52 PM EDT
A6: No grades, just indicators necessary for growth
#moedchat
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:53 PM EDT
A6 No. Too many other ways to showcase what students can actually do. More emphasis on doing and less on credit.
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chuckcbaker
Aug 24 @ 10:53 PM EDT
Trad. grades are comfy b/c of what they supposedly represent, whether or not I ACTUALLY taught. Portfolios = risk & vulnerability.
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:53 PM EDT
True, Joanne! Anxiety is a roadblock to learning!
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GeoJo22
Aug 24 @ 10:45 PM EDT
A4 If you're into competition, grades do that. When Ss are worried about pts, they're not thinking about learning.
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_aries_247
Aug 24 @ 10:54 PM EDT
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GambillJulie
Aug 24 @ 10:54 PM EDT
A6: Back in 19 and 80 and 4, my bio T would say, "You either know it, or you don't." I say standards based.
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:54 PM EDT
vulnerability can be a good thing
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In reply to @chuckcbaker
joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:54 PM EDT
You get an A+ in speakin the truth right here and now.
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In reply to @GambillJulie
brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Some in the world calling for change & some clinging tightly to security blanket that your quote nicely encapsulates
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jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:55 PM EDT
I would add that trad. Grades are Easy, putting together student product is Hard.
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In reply to @chuckcbaker
awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:55 PM EDT
Anybody want a goal t-shirt?
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jerikh
Aug 24 @ 10:55 PM EDT
A6 I don't want a doctor who aced all the tests turned in homework and forgot the skillset after boards.
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chuckcbaker
Aug 24 @ 10:55 PM EDT
No doubt! We ask it of our students all the time!
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El_FrinkELA
Aug 24 @ 10:56 PM EDT
A6: define grades? Trad sense-no my dream is that Ss move at their own pace and move on only after mastering concepts and skills
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:56 PM EDT
Ss could make infographic-type resume to document & share learning and/or progress and/or skills! Would be great for
#makerspace
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MrBeckmann
Aug 24 @ 10:54 PM EDT
Not necessarily, but I do conduct a student led conference. During that I expected them to articulate where they stand and what they can do.
In reply to @debbiefuco
MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:57 PM EDT
Well, you all get an A+ in our book!
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:57 PM EDT
I think they really do put more into it when they know everyone will see it, its a defining principle of how I teach
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jleeTechPercent
Aug 24 @ 10:57 PM EDT
Great chat tonight
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peeps! Have a great Friday and weekend everyone!
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MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Thank you so much for joining
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tonight! Be sure to grow your
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by following those you learned with tonight!
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Aug 24 @ 10:58 PM EDT
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awall777
Aug 24 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Dog t-shirt anyone?
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Aug 24 @ 10:58 PM EDT
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brianrozinsky
Aug 24 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Then: all Ss showed learning (or lack thereof) at same time in same way. Now: UDL notions invite myriad options, windows.
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LemarrTreadwell
Aug 24 @ 10:58 PM EDT
Have a great weekend
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PLN.
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jerikh
Aug 24 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Thanks for the chat!
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joshchoward
Aug 24 @ 10:59 PM EDT
The reality is schools beat creativity and risk taking out of Ts as well as Ss. Need more to step up and model that.
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GambillJulie
Aug 24 @ 10:59 PM EDT
This has been the most entertaining and informative edchat that I've participated in for a while. Enjoyed this 1 to the core!!!!
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debbiefuco
- Moderator
Aug 24 @ 10:59 PM EDT
A6 Perfect world = NOT
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MOedchat
Aug 24 @ 10:50 PM EDT
Q6- Perfect world, grades or not?
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