#formativechat Archive

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:02 PM EST

@PDSDTechCoach I am looking forward to discussing PBL with you on #formativechat.

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:02 PM EST

Let's get started with #formativechat! @mike_bruckner and I are co-moderating!

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:03 PM EST

Excited to talk PBL with #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:03 PM EST

We will be using the Q1, A1, Q2, A2...format. #PBL= project-based learning #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:04 PM EST

@davidwkwan @Mike_Bruckner all ready to have some lightning bolt talks with my favorite Formative Assessment peeps #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:04 PM EST

Welcome everyone! Please start by introducing yourself and a project you enjoyed doing as a student #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:05 PM EST

@davidwkwan @Mike_Bruckner Jacqueline, NJ Social Studies teacher, happy to be joining the chat. #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:05 PM EST

RT @kispypniko @Mike_Bruckner all ready to have some lightning bolt talks with my favorite Formative Assessment peeps #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:05 PM EST

I'm Kaitlyn and I teach 3 grade math/science in Alabama! Project I enjoyed was an interactive book report on a Nancy Drew! #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:05 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @Mike_Bruckner Welcome Jacqueline! Any projects you enjoyed as a student? #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:06 PM EST

Good evening #formativechat. Mike from State College, PA. Instructional tech coach. Pumped to be co-moderating with the great @davidwkwan

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:06 PM EST

@MsScott3grade Hey Kaitlyn! welcome back! what made it interactive? #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:06 PM EST

#formativechat Good morning everyone! I am Niko, a Primary Years Programme Coordinator from Bangkok @KISbangkok

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:06 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy Welcome Jacqueline! #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:06 PM EST

@MsScott3grade Hey Kaitlyn! Glad you could join us #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:07 PM EST

@davidwkwan @Mike_Bruckner I didn't do projects when I was a student; that speaks volumes about how education has changed. #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:07 PM EST

Good evening #formativechat - Phiona

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:07 PM EST

@davidwkwan we did a big poster w/ a cut out for our face and we got to be that character! #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:07 PM EST

@kispypniko @KISbangkok Hey Niko! great to see you! any projects you remember doing as a student? #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:07 PM EST

@kispypniko @KISbangkok Great to have you with us, Niko! #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:08 PM EST

@PLloydHenry Hey Phiona! Any favorite projects you remember doing as a kid? #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:08 PM EST

@davidwkwan @Mike_Bruckner My students are involved in writing a political platform and hosting their own conventions. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:08 PM EST

@PLloydHenry Hey Phiona! Great to have you with us #formativechat

vlcorr Feb 29 @ 7:08 PM EST

Victoria Corr, 7th Grade Science Teacher. Favorite project was a CSI investigation to learn human body.#formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:09 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @davidwkwan And yet still some still confuse projects with #PBL. We'll try to clear that up tonight #formativechat #pblchat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:09 PM EST

@davidwkwan I remember a few from Agricultural Science, Home Ec and Cookery that weren't too bad #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:10 PM EST

Let's get started guys! #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:10 PM EST

Q1 coming up! #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:10 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner I have been to State College several times, my undergrad was Juniata College. Fun town! #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:10 PM EST

I went to school in a time when our success was determined by single end-of year exams #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:11 PM EST

Question 1 - let's do this! #formativechat https://t.co/PyLPsE80xt

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:11 PM EST

@MsScott3grade that sounds like fun! #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:11 PM EST

Sure, design tech, drama, and world languages #embarrasing #lifelessons #stillhavescars #formativechat https://t.co/nsJKdVyNkL

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:07 PM EST

@kispypniko @KISbangkok Hey Niko! great to see you! any projects you remember doing as a student? #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:11 PM EST

@PLloydHenry I can't even imagine #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:11 PM EST

@PLloydHenry Oofta. Makes me somewhat appreciate choice #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:11 PM EST

A1- Assess??? That's my big Q. No idea where to start assessing a PBL and putting a traditional grade on it. #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:12 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @davidwkwan @Mike_Bruckner My kids this last semester - complete with social media sites - they loved it #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:12 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy I love it. Moved here from Chicago over Labor Day. The energy is incredible out here #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:12 PM EST

A1- but really, engage them w/ driving question. Make it relate to something not only related to the world but to their lives #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:13 PM EST

@MsScott3grade getting them to consider #PBL in the context of their own lives is definitely a way to unearth that creativity #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:13 PM EST

A1 build a criteria for creativity, what kind of Creativity are you trying to assess? #definition #formativechat https://t.co/1AEzGgnD6B

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:11 PM EST

Question 1 - let's do this! #formativechat https://t.co/PyLPsE80xt

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:13 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner Tell me about it - I'm happy to be a teacher in this climate; I'm not sure how I survived that as a student #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:14 PM EST

Hi y'all. Shai from State College, PA. HS Math teacher. Not sure how much I can participate in #formativechat. Editing a presentation. :)

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:14 PM EST

@MsScott3grade Conversations w/colleagues about levels of proficiency based on standards worked well for me #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:14 PM EST

@slm12 welcome Shai! #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:16 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner @jacq_mccarthy AND we love having him @ our high school. We got lucky! #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:16 PM EST

@kispypniko I love this idea. What kind of criteria can we set for creativity everyone? #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:16 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner My colleagues don't understand how to grade this either. If the answer isn't "right" were they proficient? #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:17 PM EST

A1 What is worth assessing? If the product or its development was new and unique for the Ss were really creative #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:17 PM EST

A1: Ss should be doing most of the inquiry-based learning independently, but T helps with open-ended questions. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:17 PM EST

@kispypniko Creativity in general. @davidwkwan and I are curious whether Ts attach a grade to it or simply give feedback #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:17 PM EST

@slm12 Welcome Shai!! #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:18 PM EST

I think creativity should be a self-assessment. Self-reflection seems key #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:18 PM EST

Not yet made it to #PBL with my flipped classes yet. One of my goals in the near future. #formativechat So, not sure how much I can add.

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:18 PM EST

But will love to learn! #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:18 PM EST

Allow the Ss to help design the rubric to match the PBL assignment. #formativechat https://t.co/4jBV1IFNxQ

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:11 PM EST

A1- Assess??? That's my big Q. No idea where to start assessing a PBL and putting a traditional grade on it. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:19 PM EST

@slm12 Should creativity be graded? #formativechat

KFonline08 Feb 29 @ 7:19 PM EST

Sean Kendall 5th grade math at Port Orange Elementary in Florida! #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:20 PM EST

A1: I think teaching creativity can start with Ss envisioning an endproduct that solves a real world problem in a unique way #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:20 PM EST

A1: We can begin by encouraging Ss to think laterally & from many perspectives; co-create success criteria with coll & Ss #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:20 PM EST

@davidwkwan @kispypniko Creative criteria should include things like original, authentic, adds-value, etc. #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:20 PM EST

A1 (con): That is of course if the driving question behind the #PBL is a problem #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:20 PM EST

@KFonline08 Hey Sean! Welcome! #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:21 PM EST

@kispypniko Is assessment synonymous with grading? #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:21 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner Are you really asking me this? (LOL!) Creativity should NEVER be graded, but nor should anything else. :) #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:21 PM EST

@KFonline08 Thanks for joining us, Sean #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:21 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner @kispypniko I sure hope not! If so, I have been something really wrong. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:22 PM EST

@slm12 Hey you said you didn't think you had much to offer :) #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:22 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner If I were graded on creativity, I would have never graduated from high school. #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:22 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @kispypniko I think what goes with this is a discussion about the all things that can be created with a skill #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:22 PM EST

@slm12 @Mike_Bruckner Me neither! #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:23 PM EST

Q2 coming up soon! #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:23 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner You know we way to well, now! You know the buttons to push! :) #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:23 PM EST

I don't think creativity should be graded, but fully developing an idea can be assessed. #formativechat https://t.co/cEwZusRAUE

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:19 PM EST

@slm12 Should creativity be graded? #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:24 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @kispypniko adds value is also key. how does your product serve other purposes? #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:24 PM EST

Yes! Exactly! #formativechat https://t.co/dts7TiKjCh

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:22 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @kispypniko I think what goes with this is a discussion about the all things that can be created with a skill #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:24 PM EST

Question 2 #formativechat #pbl https://t.co/1UGDgVR87J

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:25 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy assessed = grade or assessed = feedback? #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:25 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy Totally agree, Jacqueline. No quicker way to kill creativity or halt innovation than attaching a grade to it #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:25 PM EST

A2- ask lots and lots of Qs. I would also take a break here and there during the course of the project so they don't burn out #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:25 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner @davidwkwan Do you think PBL is for all types of learners? Is more structure needed for struggling learners? #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:26 PM EST

@slm12 @jacq_mccarthy I read it as assessed = feedback and grade is separate #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:26 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner @davidwkwan Creativity in math thinking is so different from the arts, different criteria different assess #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:26 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner @jacq_mccarthy That's what I love about my puppet project. No grades at all. Ss had so much fun with it! #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:26 PM EST

Exactly. But art teacher gives grade on skill not idea. #formativechat https://t.co/6HmZNOIa2B

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:21 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner Are you really asking me this? (LOL!) Creativity should NEVER be graded, but nor should anything else. :) #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:27 PM EST

A2: Ts can sustain S inquiry by encouraging Ss to develop their own inquiry questions at different stages of their project #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:28 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner I haven't graded a student in ages, almost 10 years now #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:28 PM EST

I think it depends on the activity & goal. I think we need to broaden our definition of assessment. #formativechat https://t.co/aqf4StGLNb

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:25 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy assessed = grade or assessed = feedback? #formativechat

KFonline08 Feb 29 @ 7:28 PM EST

@KFonline08 #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:28 PM EST

@MsScott3grade Qs are key. How do we make the shift to Ss generating their own questions? Does this depend on grade level? #formativechat

sarah_paluzzi Feb 29 @ 7:28 PM EST

A2: Sometimes asking students different questions throughout the process will make them curious to explore alternate pathways #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:29 PM EST

@kispypniko You just made my night! @slm12 would be in heaven haha #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:29 PM EST

@MsScott3grade key to sustained inquiry is the Ss posing the Q's and finding the answers. How can you drive them toward this? #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:30 PM EST

@slm12 @Mike_Bruckner I think we still need to have grades in school, just less grades & make sure we think about the "why". #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:30 PM EST

@kispypniko @Mike_Bruckner I'm curious - how do you report on student success without grading at all? #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:30 PM EST

@kispypniko @Mike_Bruckner Wow! How do you get around it? #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:30 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @davidwkwan Depends on how we define struggling learners #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:30 PM EST

@davidwkwan That's a great Q I've been struggling w/. My Ss want me to feed them As all the time, don't like to be challanged #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:30 PM EST

A2 guiding questions student questions, open ended tasks, student initiated inquiry, problem posing #formativechat https://t.co/3K9uSLwjXO

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:24 PM EST

Question 2 #formativechat #pbl https://t.co/1UGDgVR87J

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:31 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @davidwkwan I've found that kids who aren't great at playing school tend to be super creative #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:31 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @Mike_Bruckner Why? Still the letter grade, percentage grade, or something else? What does an A mean? #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:31 PM EST

A2:one way is to encourage students to come up with the initial Qs that need to be answered given context and the skill #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:31 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner @kispypniko OMG! YES! I would be in heaven! #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:31 PM EST

@kispypniko @davidwkwan Agree. Creativity & innovation only happen in context #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:32 PM EST

I don't like one-size-fits-all solutions. So PBL, like everything else needs to be differentiated. #formativechat https://t.co/6nJ4KKLicA

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:30 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @davidwkwan Depends on how we define struggling learners #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:32 PM EST

This! #formativechat https://t.co/BODOYfI9gE

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:27 PM EST

A2: Ts can sustain S inquiry by encouraging Ss to develop their own inquiry questions at different stages of their project #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:32 PM EST

@kispypniko @Mike_Bruckner Jealous! I figured it couldn't have been an traditional public school. #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:33 PM EST

@MsScott3grade perhaps having the Ss generate the major problem based on a short video/reading and all the Q's #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:34 PM EST

@KFonline08 @jacq_mccarthy @Mike_Bruckner I do a #flipclass mastery using #SBG, but still have to give traditional grades. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:34 PM EST

@MsScott3grade @davidwkwan We need to create a culture of reflection & revision where failure is OK. Massive undertaking #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:34 PM EST

@MsScott3grade Check out https://t.co/tfjeMSMYtV #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:35 PM EST

@slm12 @kispypniko @Mike_Bruckner I should have known it wasn't to be ... we have to report grades #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:35 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy At what grade should we trust kids to self-differentiate and/or design their own assessments, criteria, etc? #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:35 PM EST

Q3 coming up soon! #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:36 PM EST

A2 an inquiry model can also help to facilitate your Ss #formativechat https://t.co/v5YP0Cs7X7

larkscience Feb 29 @ 7:36 PM EST

#personalizedlearning is an easy answer, but 1:1 time with Ss throughout #pbl makes it more likely #formativechat https://t.co/cPbORG6Iz3

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:24 PM EST

Question 2 #formativechat #pbl https://t.co/1UGDgVR87J

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:37 PM EST

Question 3 - keep it rolling #formativechat https://t.co/s3Vzm6IOEN

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:37 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner I think we need diverse workforce, so teaching Ss all types of skills is relevant. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:38 PM EST

@larkscience Yes! Must apprentice thinking. Ss coaching Ss is also powerful #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:38 PM EST

A2 also remember that inquiry doesn't always happen and look the same #formativechat https://t.co/jtCTxWPYZM

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:39 PM EST

Agreed. But some Ss will need more guidance than others in the "how". #formativechat https://t.co/7MfW17mSkO

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:37 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @Mike_Bruckner I think beauty of PBL is to harness interests to invest Ss who are usually discouraged.

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:39 PM EST

@kispypniko do you have a link for the image? I'd like to check it out #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:39 PM EST

@davidwkwan @kispypniko ditto! too small to see on the screen. #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:39 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy definitely agree #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:39 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy Agree. Equip them w/skills & provide opportunities for unique application #formativechat

sarah_paluzzi Feb 29 @ 7:39 PM EST

A3 Would collaborating with other students from other schools (for instance via skype) count as other groups? #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:39 PM EST

Q3 is now up! #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:40 PM EST

A3: Sometimes, I find girls are intimidated by boys in certain STEM projects, but yet are just as capable. Maybe safe place. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:40 PM EST

Love this #formativechat https://t.co/Tat9B4qk30

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:38 PM EST

A2 also remember that inquiry doesn't always happen and look the same #formativechat https://t.co/jtCTxWPYZM

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:40 PM EST

Great question. I teach 11th & 12th. But I would love to hear other Ts thoughts on this question. #formativechat https://t.co/XTMTsqrcX8

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:35 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy At what grade should we trust kids to self-differentiate and/or design their own assessments, criteria, etc? #formativechat

mrcraigcjones Feb 29 @ 7:40 PM EST

A3: grouping is so hard. it feels easier to do homogenous grouping (as a T and a S) but heterogenous/diversity adds sooo much #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:40 PM EST

@sarah_paluzzi interesting idea! Would you work with other T to group students? what is the purpose in connecting them? #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:41 PM EST

@PLloydHenry @kispypniko @Mike_Bruckner That we do, but we need to start bucking that system and make changes there. #formativechat

missgdoes5th - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:41 PM EST

Love this from #formativechat tonight https://t.co/8kyi8b2dYL

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:38 PM EST

A2 also remember that inquiry doesn't always happen and look the same #formativechat https://t.co/jtCTxWPYZM

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:41 PM EST

A3- I would use homogeneous, especially as my lower Ss tend to let the higher do all work. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:41 PM EST

@sarah_paluzzi Definitely heterogeneous, Sarah! New perspectives - especially cultural - would greatly enhance projects #formativechat

missgdoes5th - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:42 PM EST

Perhaps homogenous is safe and heterogeneous is unsafe/uncomfortable, but in what situation to our Ss grow more? #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:42 PM EST

a3 I want heterogeneous to work so badly though! #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:42 PM EST

A3 differentiated instruction caters for mixed ability, improving social constructivists teaching #formativechat https://t.co/mD088MAuSP

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:37 PM EST

Question 3 - keep it rolling #formativechat https://t.co/s3Vzm6IOEN

larkscience Feb 29 @ 7:42 PM EST

A3 let Ss choose and justify their choices. They come up with far better than I can dream up #formativechat https://t.co/UNQ5jZ9EBG

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:37 PM EST

Question 3 - keep it rolling #formativechat https://t.co/s3Vzm6IOEN

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:43 PM EST

@sarah_paluzzi THAT is an awesome idea! That would definitely be heterogeneous, don't you think? #formativechat

missgdoes5th - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:43 PM EST

Sorry joining in late as always. Rehearsal ends at 6:00 👎🏻😭 #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:43 PM EST

A3 - Mix the groups, but allow Ss to take ownership of some aspect of the assignment that is in their wheelhouse. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:43 PM EST

@slm12 The boys are intimidated too. We just mask it #formativechat #masculinity #socialconstruction

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:44 PM EST

@slm12 @kispypniko @Mike_Bruckner This will take a huge cultural shift at all stages of our education system #formativechat

KFonline08 Feb 29 @ 7:44 PM EST

A3: I mostly only use a homogenous group for the Ss that get pulled (ESE). I feel Heterogenous is when learning occurs in PBL #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:44 PM EST

@davidwkwan @jacq_mccarthy @Mike_Bruckner Where's that love button! Can't agree more! #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:44 PM EST

@PLloydHenry @kispypniko @Mike_Bruckner Completely agree! Ready? #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:45 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy One concern I have is getting every student to dive deep with depth of knowledge using this approach #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:45 PM EST

@mrcraigcjones Agree. Probably more difficult to scaffold in heterogeneous groups, but benefits far outweigh costs #formativechat

larkscience Feb 29 @ 7:45 PM EST

@krisyniko @Mike_Bruckner not if we are giving opps for growth, maybe if assessment as learning... #formativechat https://t.co/gQLIEKSOPW

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:21 PM EST

@kispypniko Is assessment synonymous with grading? #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:46 PM EST

A3: Our goals/purposes & values will drive the way we group Ss #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:46 PM EST

Need more of this in K-12 education #formativechat #failforward https://t.co/zVKMS82AhZ

larkscience Feb 29 @ 7:42 PM EST
A3 let Ss choose and justify their choices. They come up with far better than I can dream up #formativechat https://t.co/UNQ5jZ9EBG
- Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:37 PM EST
  
  Question 3 - keep it rolling #formativechat https://t.co/s3Vzm6IOEN

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:46 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy I'd want to ensure Ss are engaging in the same skill but finding different pathways to achieve it #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:47 PM EST

@davidwkwan You won't get every S to go deep; but you will get all Ss to participate & learn. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:47 PM EST

@missgdoes5th Welcome Angela! #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:47 PM EST

@PLloydHenry with that, I think it highlights the need for developing soft skills within this process #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:47 PM EST

@PLloydHenry @slm12 @kispypniko I'm up for it! Who's with me?! #formativechat #changingparadigms

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:48 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy maybe we can cut down on the amount and spend more time with them on attaining the skill #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:48 PM EST

Q4 coming up! #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:48 PM EST

It would depend if the skill is essential, then yes, I agree with you. #formativechat https://t.co/gvHBSfSErV

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:46 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy I'd want to ensure Ss are engaging in the same skill but finding different pathways to achieve it #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:49 PM EST

Q4 #formativechat https://t.co/GvQ9fF8vCe

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:49 PM EST

Agreed. But then we need something to challenge the Ss who are ready to move on; same result. #formativechat https://t.co/V1g0uLBGIp

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:48 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy maybe we can cut down on the amount and spend more time with them on attaining the skill #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:49 PM EST

Yeah buddy! #formativechat https://t.co/cA0dhegzcH

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:46 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy I'd want to ensure Ss are engaging in the same skill but finding different pathways to achieve it #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:50 PM EST

Well-said! #formativechat https://t.co/KExRsW9WgA

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:46 PM EST

A3: Our goals/purposes & values will drive the way we group Ss #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:50 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy definitely! setting asside auxillary skills and content unless it's naturally part of what they want to create #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:50 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner @jacq_mccarthy We start it at KG, they create a self assessment rubric and have a say about their criteria #formativechat

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:51 PM EST

Ask questions, encourage, support, and show genuine interest in their idea. #formativechat https://t.co/vgBci8kXO4

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:49 PM EST

Q4 #formativechat https://t.co/GvQ9fF8vCe

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:51 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner @PLloydHenry @slm12 right by you #formativechat #changingparadims

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:51 PM EST

@slm12 @danicamckellar Maybe call it the She-Woman Man-Haters Club? Shout out to Alfalfa :) #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:52 PM EST

A4- show interest and support them! #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:53 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner @danicamckellar No Man-Haters Club! We still like the boys, but we want to do it without them for once. #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:53 PM EST

@davidwkwan You are right - do we want to propagate the idea that everyone has something to learn/teach? #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:54 PM EST

A4: Have a discussion about how the skill(s) you are going to teach can be applied to solve problems in their own lives #formativechat

KFonline08 Feb 29 @ 7:54 PM EST

A4: allowing them to use tools they like to show you how it can be used academically. The kids love teaching us something! #formativechat

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:54 PM EST

@slm12 I am currently running a girls only Minecraft club, same reason I guess. Keeping it fun #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:55 PM EST

@MsScott3grade Maybe it seemed disingenuous but I've done this & still had kids who treat it as just another task. Advice? #formativechat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:55 PM EST

@PLloydHenry I definitely think so! There is a wealth of team work skills for Ss to untap beyond delegating "you do this..." #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:56 PM EST

@Mike_Bruckner When you say "this" you mean PBL? I admit, it's still something I'm just getting started in! #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:56 PM EST

@kispypniko That is awesome. What age? Do you find more girls because there are no boys? #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:56 PM EST

@slm12 @danicamckellar Credit to you for not taking the bait :) #formativechat #BetterTogether

jacq_mccarthy Feb 29 @ 7:57 PM EST

@davidwkwan @PLloydHenry What do you do for Ss who don't want to work in teams? Or for your introverts? #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:57 PM EST

A5 The gurus at @BIEpbl have some ideas. Check them out here https://t.co/eb1NnEWUY4 #formativechat #pblchat

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:57 PM EST

@KFonline08 Agree! It can be very helpful to in making it meaningful to them, tech is part of student identity these days #formativechat

larkscience Feb 29 @ 7:57 PM EST

Ask them to take the Ts place- "what would you want to receive? In what format?" #formativechat https://t.co/vAf3gz3DuR

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:49 PM EST

Q4 #formativechat https://t.co/GvQ9fF8vCe

kispypniko Feb 29 @ 7:58 PM EST

A4 authentic projects from Ss passions and interests, provoke and challenge, guide and listen #formativechat https://t.co/5MCmzjqe4E

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:49 PM EST

Q4 #formativechat https://t.co/GvQ9fF8vCe

davidwkwan - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:58 PM EST

Q5 is coming up! #formativechat

PLloydHenry Feb 29 @ 7:58 PM EST

@davidwkwan collaboration/cooperative learning, problem solving, consensus building etc. critical democracy -not competition #formativechat

MsScott3grade - Moderator Feb 29 @ 7:58 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @davidwkwan Sometimes I let my introverts work by themselves. My struggle is with Ss who work poorly in groups #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 7:58 PM EST

@MsScott3grade This meaning the advice you offered - i.e. support & interest #formativechat

slm12 Feb 29 @ 7:59 PM EST

A4: Stay out of the students way. I think sometimes when you stay out of it, the Ss rise up and above expectations. #formativechat

Mike_Bruckner Feb 29 @ 8:00 PM EST

@jacq_mccarthy @davidwkwan @PLloydHenry I've allowed those Ss to choose their team #formativechat