#IEedchat Archive
#IEedchat is a great way for Inland Empire (California) educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday August 8, 2016
10:30 PM EDT
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Q0: Introduce yourself and without sharing your views, explain your level of engagement in national, state, and local politics.
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A0: Tom Ashley, Tech Coach at the forward leaning . I am a total political junky-follow news from all political persuasions.
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Q0: Mark Synnott, tech coach. A little bit disgusted with politics lately.
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A0: Deatra Lee, Tech TOSA I do some research in preparation for voting
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Jed, Math Geek/Tech TOSA
My engagement in politics has been lackluster for yrs. Trying to be better this time around.
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A0 Julia from Perris High. Always been very politically active.
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Q1: Does discussion of politics and related issues belong in the classroom? Should it be done formally, informally, or not at all?
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Robert Guzman Tech Coach, I always vote in most elections. Sometimes you just forget
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A1: Yes, all of the above.
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A0: Judy Lane English T - wow can't wait to learn what you all have to say-I'm a bit lib so I might be quiet tonight or not
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A1: lots of ?'s, multiple tweets
part 1: depends, on culture of room. If positive culture & safe environment for discussion, yes
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A1:Discussion of politics in the classroom should be formal. Both sides should be presented and teacher should be mediator
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I don't know if I look good in a blue dress in this analogy (:
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A1: yes, formal discussion to teach students how to form an opinion based on research & facts & express that opinion respectfully
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A1: Discussion of politics is a skill that isn't very well taught in teaching programs, so you see a lot of fumbles honestly.
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Jon Briggs, social studies teacher. I am pretty in tune with what is going on politically in the world.
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A1 part 2:
If it is to be done, I would start formally, more structure to begin with. Simple debates, then add complexity/nuance.
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You are right, sometimes if the culture is not there then you shouldn't open that can of worms https://t.co/gc0m3DgFFD
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A1: lots of ?'s, multiple tweets
part 1: depends, on culture of room. If positive culture & safe environment for discussion, yes
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Shout it out, liberal sister!!
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A1: It's our duty to teach the process but I believe our own personal biases should be left out. Ss should choose their view.
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A1 We need to model how to have discussion/disagreements and look at arguments to make decisions
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Q1: certainly has a place in this election yr formally/informally yes but with respect of course
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Yes, as facilitator, we need to remain neutral, and listen, Ss will be watching
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A1 Completely agree with . Safe environment key to discussion. Politics HOT topic!
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A1 cont: You need to be aware of settled and unsettled issues and focus on solutions to settled problems/issues.
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Teachers add their opinion in the classroom and they should refrain from doing so. Ss need to make up their own mind
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Very true, and it's a sure way to get Ss, Ts, and Ps upset, so nurturing/curious should be class hallmrk
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A1: has great structure in math class using claim & warrant model (formal debate) lots of learning, not just politics
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Q1b: What classroom culture conditions need to exist before we can meaningfully tackle charged discussion topics?
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also, if topic is a hot button issue for example in cases where local attention to matter is powder keg
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A1b:
conversations that focus ideas, not personal attacks,
and respect for time (taking turns)
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A1b Ss need to knw difference btwn opinion and fact, fundamental is relationships/mutual respect
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A1:yes all-around. I feel that part of our job is to prepare Ss to be productive members of society. But also leave out pers bias
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A1b: You need to build an environment that dampens the S (and the T) from "popping off." Establish a fact based environment.
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A1b SAFE, honest, respectful, open. Trust is key to being able to open up
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A1B:Mutual respect for one another needs to be present. Ss need to learn that just because they disagree, they can still get along
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A1b: Ss have sentence frames to disagree/agreeing respectfully, listening skills, a culture of respect for one another
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Yes, look at arguments weight and logical connections...hmm sounds like math (:
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and maybe balanced?
bring in source material from CNN and Fox News (and all the others).
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A1b a safe and welcoming environment where ads aren't afraid to express their ideas
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had this very issue Friday night with colleagues. We all still love each other.
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Q2: How are multiple viewpoints navigated (and accepted) during social interactions?
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my niece can spout out all fox news headlines everyday, so also need to know how to handle other POV
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hard when we don't see that in the media and elections, just sayin https://t.co/lxSg25dcXO
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A1B:Mutual respect for one another needs to be present. Ss need to learn that just because they disagree, they can still get along
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Great point! Sentence frames a great idea! welcome to
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LOL, I wasn't going to pull it out, but you got it sir (:
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you CANNOT make me bring in Fox News! 😏
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. Wholeheartedly agree. Establish a fact based environment from reliable sources. Same as a research paper.
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I saw this in a 4th grade class last year, it was goosebump worthy, wish adults were that good
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Or with our colleagues and other adults.
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W/my niece she's a walking bulletin board, but scratch surface, shows shallow understanding
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A2: not sure how to answer - seems when opposition is present in political argument, starts heated, only productive if calmed.
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That's why we need to model it for Ss.
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A2 I wonder if POV is a model over time, that understanding others is an investment in them, & it takes time
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A0: Jen from Upland M.S. ELA teacher-Students come back Wed EEEk
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A2 part 1: I grew up in a bi-polar political household. We eventually learned how to navigate w/out fighting/insulting one another
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super EZ frame:
My claim is____, my warrant is____; I disagree with your claim b/c ___
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Yeah, so keeping Ss from exciting their emotions and remain thinking beings
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Tends to be a big problem. Can we really keep emotions out of the discussion? Hard.
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Q2b: Should teachers remain nonpartisan in front of students? If so, how can we answer tough questions when students ask?
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A2: Respectful people agree to disagree. But more is at stake with national issues. Not sure they can just put aside their views.
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Professionalism is the key word I think. If expressing your views conflicts with being a professional, keep a lid on it.
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A2b: Ts should never be political partisans! They should teach Ss how to weigh evidence and facts and trust them to finds answers.
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A2b I am honest when asked. Then I explain why I feel the way I do. Just like any other discussion where we are connecting
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A2 to navigate differences, the skill of empathy should be taught and discussed
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Same goes for any expression. Professionalism needs to be present for it to be taken seriously. Students need to see that model.
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Q2b: Ts should leave behind their candidate bumper stickers and practice objectivity. Openly practicing this is teaching.
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A2: Again, sentence frames, maybe socratic seminar to learn to respectfully disagree
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A2B:I keep my opinions to myself in the classroom. I don't get paid to tell Ss what I believe. I teach critical thinking
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I don't know that neutrality is always warranted.
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Well if we don't, when might Ss have an opportunity to see this otherwise
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Q3: What social media advice would you like to give our students to help them discuss politics responsibly online?
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A2b: Ts should remain nonpartisan for Ss, but show them how to find answers to their tough questions
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Perhaps, but genius sees genius in others and makes us all
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I believe I also have responsibility to model good citizenship Being open about my politics and voting part of that
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A2B cont.: We know what happened to Socrates for corrupting the youth. Don't want that to happen to me, lol
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A3:
Social media can clue you in that something is happening. But ALWAYS follow up from credible sources of info.
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I think that sharing those pieces depends more on class culture and relationship w/T and Ss
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Anybody remember that rumor that William Shatner died, I had people swear to me it was true.
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A2b I think it's easy for me express opinions when asked, but I can lean right or left dependent on the topic.
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. Be like Truman who said when a fan told him to give em hell:"I'll give them the truth and they'll think it's hell."
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I agree, it depends on the class and how the Ss handle issues.
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A3 It's open to the world, don't say anything online you wouldn't say to someone in person, use fact/logic not emotion
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A2b cont. I will always asked Ss to form their own opinion
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I saw the place where it happened in Athens. It still haunts me to this day. LOL!
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A3: a good time to talk about citizenship, social media and its neg/pos influence
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A3: I'd tell Ss that what's trending isn't always true. The truth requires digging, not just opening an app and reading the top.
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I have as well, but only with those that I know understand and are mature
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Q3b: This week, share any resources you have to cultivate meaningful discussions and/or how to discuss politics in the classroom.
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Q3b If only my Ss would use social media for current events that don't involve celebs!
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Another good point, it's about relative audiences
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A3: Advice to students - be respectful, post it only if you would say it to a person's face, no put downs
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Maybe it's a tad different in HS. But 12-13 year old are gullible. My 2 cents mean the world.
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A3b current event articles with leveled reading!!!
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True, that's why it's age/maturity/relationship/class culture dependant, for me at least
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Completely agree. Audience matters.
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A3: I always caution to Ss to be mindful of what they post on the Internet. And what's to point? Not likely to change minds of FB
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Which is another great life skill Ss need to see
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There is a mock vote project for Ss on Constitution Day. I'm looking for the link. Can someone help??
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agree and we have to talk about that all the time, not just election time https://t.co/9FHGDLZZdB
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A3: I always caution to Ss to be mindful of what they post on the Internet. And what's to point? Not likely to change minds of FB
