#2ndaryELA Archive
#2ndaryELA is a group of middle and high school English Language Arts teachers looking to share ideas and best practices. We chat every Tuesday night at 8 pm EST using #2ndaryELA. We'd love for you to join us!
Tuesday January 17, 2017
8:00 PM EST
thenovelteacher
Jan 17 @ 8:00 PM EST
Hi there! Pre-service high school English teacher in Los Angeles. Excited for tonight’s chat!
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SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:00 PM EST
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Hi! Lisa from FL who teaches 6th gr. ELA in FL. I blog:
https://t.co/2JZ9rBovpB
2peasandadog
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Jan 17 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome! What and where do you teach? Include a link to your blog if you have one.
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2peasandadog
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Jan 17 @ 8:00 PM EST
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2peasandadog
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Jan 17 @ 8:01 PM EST
Welcome Everyone! Kristy, co-host, middle school teacher. I blog at
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crawfordela7
Jan 17 @ 8:01 PM EST
#poetry
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I'm Mary Lynn Crawford. 7th ELA in Wilmington, NC!
classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:01 PM EST
Abby from Philly. I teach sixth grade literacy and blog at
https://t.co/FRaUo9fpEc
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literarymaven
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Jan 17 @ 8:02 PM EST
I'm Brynn Allison, chat co-host. 8 yrs teaching HS English & reading interventions in Philly. Blog:
https://t.co/cyx1WlwPgI
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:02 PM EST
Hey all! I'm Hillary. I teach 8th grade LA in Indiana!
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nickoftime31
Jan 17 @ 8:02 PM EST
Hi everyone! Brittany Barnes Waverly NE 8th grade. Trying to get my mind off of Devoshearings.
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2peasandadog
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Jan 17 @ 8:03 PM EST
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:03 PM EST
Hi
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! Kim from MD teaching Am Lit and AP Lit
EHSMrsJ
Jan 17 @ 8:03 PM EST
📝So excited to talk poetry w/
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tonight! I'm Julie in KS, blog/Snapchat info in my profile!
MsNic_
Jan 17 @ 8:03 PM EST
Hi all! Nicole here. 1st year teacher, 7th ELA in southeast Kansas!
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MrsLedford6Eng
Jan 17 @ 8:04 PM EST
Jen here! I'm a 6th grade Eng Teacher from IN!
https://t.co/UV2668Op2Q
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:04 PM EST
Oops! And here's my blog link:
https://t.co/bvKeL4aaqt
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thenovelteacher
Jan 17 @ 8:05 PM EST
A1) I incorporate poetry during every unit. Ss are very good at communicating their thoughts succinctly from using social media.
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2peasandadog
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:05 PM EST
Q1: Do you teach a poetry unit? When? Or do you incorporate it all year long?
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Jan 17 @ 8:05 PM EST
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crawfordela7
Jan 17 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: Currently teaching a P unit. We regularly focus on NF, so we try to incorporate diff forms of literature where we can.
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literarymaven
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Jan 17 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: Used to just do a unit in Jan, but now mix it in all yr long. I like to start the yr w/it
https://t.co/0QGwBxMRPt
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2peasandadog
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: I use poems all year long as mentor texts when they fit the unit. I am also going to have students write poetry this year.
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SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: I try to find poems that match the themes we are reading about in class all year. No plans for unit -we use Springboard
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: I do mini poetry units by combining poems w/universal themes and I connect poems to other texts throughout
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nickoftime31
Jan 17 @ 8:07 PM EST
I do the standard month long poetry unit in Feb, but have been reading blogs about incorporating more often.
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travismmarcum
Jan 17 @ 8:07 PM EST
8th grade ELA and SS at Model Lab in KY. Starting poetry next week! to Blog:
https://t.co/zSKtyo62Za
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1 I incorporate it all year but do a more detailed unit in the spring. Teaching
@kwamealexander
Crossover for poetry
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In reply to @kwamealexander
hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1 - I teach a poetry unit toward the end of the year (this year it'll be in April) - after all the standardized testing
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MrsLedford6Eng
Jan 17 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: I teach my poetry unit in April. We cover primarily figurative language and sensory detail.
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:09 PM EST
April is also National Poetry Month so seems to be a good time for it
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1 - I teach a poetry unit toward the end of the year (this year it'll be in April) - after all the standardized testing
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thenovelteacher
Jan 17 @ 8:10 PM EST
A2) ANNOTATIONS. In-text marking and visible thinking strategies are a must when working with poetry and its complexities.
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2peasandadog
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:10 PM EST
Q2: What skills are most important for you to cover when teaching poetry?
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crawfordela7
Jan 17 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2:Testing makes P instruction less creative & more tedious. Ss need figurative lang & to understand the import of word choice.
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2peasandadog
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2: important skills - that students learn to read and enjoy poetry. I am not super strict about poetry format.
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literarymaven
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Jan 17 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2 Poetry can be used to teach anything, that's why it is so great! Word choice, figurative language, imagery, voice
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SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2: Appreciating the messages that are created through use of language. Like to embrace creativity.
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:11 PM EST
Totally agree. I did a lesson on this today with The Crossover.
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https://t.co/0YmTZJhcC6
thenovelteacher
Jan 17 @ 8:10 PM EST
A2) ANNOTATIONS. In-text marking and visible thinking strategies are a must when working with poetry and its complexities.
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2: Always themes! Also poetic devices, structure, shift in tone
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2 - We focus first on figurative language terms. Knowing that they have a deeper understanding of those terms helps w/ analysis
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2 Modeling how poetry should be read aloud! Great time for poetry slams and guest speakers!
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travismmarcum
Jan 17 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1: Students share favorite poems and tell why. They also write poems. Love
https://t.co/F1OIDStYsq
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nickoftime31
Jan 17 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2 figurative language, analysis such as how people can interpret the same poem differently.
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2 - We also focus on rhyme and rhythm - we look at a lot of songs to imitate struture
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2 - Finally, imagery is something we also cover. Looking for more ways to make this stand out!
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:14 PM EST
I've used songs in the past. Ss love it and it is a great way for them to buy-in.
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In reply to @hcarp_cms
MrsLedford6Eng
Jan 17 @ 8:14 PM EST
I love student lead slams!
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In reply to @classchatblog
SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:14 PM EST
Get some poems with matching art :)
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In reply to @hcarp_cms
thenovelteacher
Jan 17 @ 8:15 PM EST
A3) “How to Eat a Poem." There’s something so meta about reading a poem about reading a poem, and the Ss relish that irony.
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:15 PM EST
Have you ever used
@PoetryOutLoud
? Amazing resources and competition for poetic recitation.
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In reply to @classchatblog, @PoetryOutLoud
2peasandadog
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:15 PM EST
Q3: What are your favorite poems to teach? What are students’ favorites to read?
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crawfordela7
Jan 17 @ 8:16 PM EST
A3: Ss & I all love "The Limited" by Sherman Alexie, "Abandoned Farmhouse" by Ted Kooser, & "A Poison Tree" by William Blake
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literarymaven
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:16 PM EST
A3 Here's 30 favorites
https://t.co/Vp3FPE6l3i
Perfect for doing a month of poems to start your classes or once a week all yr
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koolteecha
Jan 17 @ 8:16 PM EST
A3 While I teach figurative devices, I want students to be able to make connections, text to text, text to self, text to world
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:16 PM EST
I have not! Will definitely check it out though 👍
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In reply to @ocbeachteach
SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:16 PM EST
A3: I LOVE "Love That Dog" by Sharon Creech.
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koolteecha
Jan 17 @ 8:17 PM EST
"Sound of Silence" by Simon & Garfunkel is FANTASTIC for teaching poetic elements/figurative devices!
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In reply to @classchatblog, @hcarp_cms
ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3: My Ss love Langston Hughes esp "Theme for English B"
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3 - I love teaching "Oranges" by Gary Soto! A lot of images and relatable for SS, esp. the grade level I teach
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:18 PM EST
A3 my Ss are currently enthralled with The Crossover. I also had to buy
@kwamealexander
's Booked b/c they wanted similar text
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In reply to @kwamealexander
koolteecha
Jan 17 @ 8:19 PM EST
A3 "On Turning Ten" by Billy Collins and "Birches" by Robert Frost
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:19 PM EST
A3 I remember teaching "We Real Cool" when I taught HS. Ss always loved it.
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thenovelteacher
Jan 17 @ 8:20 PM EST
A4) Ss reflected on their nightly reading through short poems (haiku, limerick, etc) to show deeper understanding of our texts.
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2peasandadog
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:20 PM EST
Q4: Share your favorite poetry writing assignments.
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MrsLedford6Eng
Jan 17 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3. My students really respond well to "The Table" and "The Road Not Taken"
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3 - I also really like teaching "Mother to Son" by Hughes - SS create their own extended metaphor poems based on his in the text
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3/2: They also love
@TaylorMali
I just had them read "Totally Like Whatever" last week
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In reply to @TaylorMali
crawfordela7
Jan 17 @ 8:21 PM EST
A4: Found
https://t.co/IPGrp8vmYr
on
#Pinterest
& am doing this week. Ss publishing their poems on a class
#Padlet
. I'm excited!
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literarymaven
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:21 PM EST
A4 Collaborative poetry is a great way to get students to share ideas, revise, & edit
https://t.co/KpqiXyDUMi
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:21 PM EST
A4 I have students make a poetry book filled with various styles of poems.
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:21 PM EST
A3 - We compare and contrast "Mother to Son" to "Dear Mama" by Tupac and that's always one of my fav lessons of the year :)
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SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:21 PM EST
A4: Totally enjoyed asking students to paint a picture of their favorite place/person and then write a free verse poem to match.
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nickoftime31
Jan 17 @ 8:21 PM EST
A4 slam poetry, sonnets, black out poetry or anything using different medium besides paper.
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EHSMrsJ
Jan 17 @ 8:22 PM EST
💡Check out these creative & high-tech
#poetry
activities for big kids!
https://t.co/qis1QAa4WG
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:23 PM EST
A4: I used to love having Ss write poetry. My favorite was Dialogue Poem. Also enjoy shape poems, Where I'm From poems
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MrsLedford6Eng
Jan 17 @ 8:23 PM EST
A4: My Sensory details touch poem. I have the Ss stick their hands out and touch food items. They then write inspired by it.
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:23 PM EST
A4 - last year I had SS watch various videos of slam poetry and discuss tone/mood/word choice - def. engaging
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SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:23 PM EST
YES - I want to try black out poetry this year!
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In reply to @nickoftime31
classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:24 PM EST
that is so cool!
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In reply to @MrsLedford6Eng
MsNic_
Jan 17 @ 8:24 PM EST
A3 I don’t teach it this year, but for student teaching I used Fight Song with the lyrics to introduce poetry. 8th grd loved it
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:24 PM EST
A4 - during student teaching I had SS create poetry books w/ various structures & had a coffeehouse @ end of the term to share
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thenovelteacher
Jan 17 @ 8:25 PM EST
A5) Draw parallels between poetry and rap. Both have rhythmic structures, use rhyme, and share about the human condition.
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2peasandadog
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:25 PM EST
Q5: How do you get creative when teaching poetry to appeal to those students who “hate” or don’t “get” poetry?
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4 - Autobiography poems are always a hit w/ my kids (and easy for them to get their feet wet w/ poetry)
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SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4: I once did a times of the day "unit" where Ss painted certain times and then wrote about them.
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koolteecha
Jan 17 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4: My students narrated their poem, collected images and selected music for a "music video" of their poem
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crawfordela7
Jan 17 @ 8:26 PM EST
A5: I think anything that lets Ss see poetry as relevant, fresh, & expressive can go a long way towards eliminating the hatred.
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2peasandadog
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:26 PM EST
A5: Students loved writing their I Am From poems. I think they will like Black Out poetry and other non-traditional forms
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literarymaven
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:26 PM EST
A5 Have students draw out what they see in each stanza to help them visualize what is going on
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nickoftime31
Jan 17 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4 Poetry Cafe was a big hit last year too!
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SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:26 PM EST
A5: That's when I bring in current songs (approp. ones) and then we work to make our own.
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crawfordela7
Jan 17 @ 8:27 PM EST
A5: I've not always been the biggest fan of P. But the more I see it as freedom rather than restriction, the more I like it.
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literarymaven
- Moderator
Jan 17 @ 8:27 PM EST
A5 Or have each student bring in the lyrics to a favorite song and present an analysis of it like you would a poem.
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:27 PM EST
A5 expose Ss to poetry throughout the year. Start with songs and high interest text to get buy-in.
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MrsLedford6Eng
Jan 17 @ 8:27 PM EST
A5: Many Ss get frightened by poetry rules. Take those away and they seem to ease into it better.
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nickoftime31
Jan 17 @ 8:28 PM EST
A5 I have trouble with this one, but I'm getting a lot of great ideas!
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koolteecha
Jan 17 @ 8:28 PM EST
A5: We completed TPCASTT analyses of songs the Ss knew, helped them use their analytic skills in a medium they connected with
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:29 PM EST
A5 - Just letting SS know poetry doesn't have to be inside the "limits" that they might think - aka doesn't always have to rhyme
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:29 PM EST
A5: When I taught MS we did a March Madness competition with favorite poems. So much fun!
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classchatblog
Jan 17 @ 8:29 PM EST
me too. Poetry is not my fav so I have to really go out of my comfort zone!
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In reply to @nickoftime31
2peasandadog
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Jan 17 @ 8:30 PM EST
Don't forget to extend your PLC by following the members of tonight's chat.
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hcarp_cms
Jan 17 @ 8:30 PM EST
A5 - introducing SS to prose vs rhyme can help see content as more relatable - many SS like having no restrictions (free verse)
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koolteecha
Jan 17 @ 8:30 PM EST
yes! Ss seem so surprised to learn that lyrics ARE their own brand of poetry
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In reply to @literarymaven
2peasandadog
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Jan 17 @ 8:30 PM EST
Share chat questions, topic suggestions, requests to host here:
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2peasandadog
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Jan 17 @ 8:30 PM EST
Thanks for chatting with us tonight. Next week's chat
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SpanglerMiddle
Jan 17 @ 8:31 PM EST
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Thanks everyone! Especially
@2peasandadog
and
@literarymaven
for hosting! See you next week!
In reply to @2peasandadog, @literarymaven
nickoftime31
Jan 17 @ 8:32 PM EST
Thanks everyone! I needed this tonight! I wish everyone could see the creativity and collaboration here.
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:33 PM EST
Good night
#2ndaryela
. Have a great day tomorrow!
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Jan 17 @ 8:35 PM EST
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2peasandadog
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Jan 17 @ 8:35 PM EST
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2peasandadog
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Jan 17 @ 8:35 PM EST
Here’s a sneak peek at next week’s chat questions
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ocbeachteach
Jan 17 @ 8:37 PM EST
brackets w/poem titles for teams. Students read the poems aloud & class voted on their favorites. Finally had champion
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In reply to @MsNic_
drangelapeery
Jan 17 @ 8:38 PM EST
Found this in my old files. From 1996. I would still require the same!
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