#IEedchat Archive

#IEedchat is a great way for Inland Empire (California) educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday May 22, 2017
10:30 PM EDT
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to #IEedchat. Tonight, we'll be discussing what we should teach. Skills? Content? What's worth knowing?
  • participatechat May 22 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #IEedchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/kBC0NA1bMS
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    Q0: Please introduce yourself and share with us a skill you possess that took hard work to learn. #IEedchat
  • mark_synnott May 22 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    A0: Mark Synnott, tech coach for @puhsd. Learning how to play drums to point where it didn't bug my mom took work. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams May 22 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    Joseph Williams Executive Director of Technology My skill? Maybe that I am the cat and dog whisperer. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    Q1 is coming up. #IEedchat
  • shane_pinnell May 22 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    A0: Shane, Asst. Dir of Tech for @puhsd. Programming in #ruby using @rails framework was hard. Had to build something to learn it. #ieedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 May 22 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    A0: Chris Lara 8th grade history. A skill that took my years to learn was writing and transposing music #IEedchat
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    A0: Kate, H.S. Eng. T. All the skills I have didn't take hard work, took consistent practice, so I'm finding this intro difficult. #IEedchat
  • judykaylane May 22 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    A0: Judy Eng T from @puhsd academic research and writing took work #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    A0: Jed Tech TOSA / math geek Piano - many thanks to Mrs. Wareham guiding me through that as a kid. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Q1: What do you teach more in your classroom, content or skills? Why? #IEedchat
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Eileen from AZ. Author and Educator. Skill? Working on golf. Note there yet. #ieedchat
    In reply to @ieedchat
  • Chad_Shaner May 22 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    A0: Chad Shaner Coordinator of Special Ed. Playing the trombone has been a lifetime of practice and honing skills for me. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams May 22 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    A1: I work with students to become successful readers and writers and hopefully gain the love of reading. #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    I remember seeing a video on consistent/concentrated practice for a bit of time carried pretty far https://t.co/FZY9U3CPbw #IEedchat
    In reply to @K8Applebee
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    A1 Teach more? Content is important, skills last a lifetime. A balance is appropriate. Skills are essential.#ieedchat
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    A1: I teach more skills. I was on the committee the last time we rewrote the Eng pacing guides; 10th chose to focus on skills. #IEedchat
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    A0:Robert Guzman Researching online is a skill I learned while doing actual Research at UT Southwestern #IEedchat
  • mark_synnott May 22 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A1: I taught the content I had to teach but I primarily taught the skill of reading. Why? Because everything starts with reading. #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 May 22 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A1: I try for skills. Content can be looked up but it takes time to build and refine skills #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Welcome Eileen! Much respect for golf. Been to the driving range with father in law and I struggled with even basics. #IEedchat
    In reply to @eileen_depka, @ieedchat
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A1: I teach content more, but I think I like to make more connections with the content via Vygotsky's Zone of Proximal development #IEedchat
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Well, then my "big" skills are lit. analysis and generosity. #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    That is huge to get kids to love to Read #IEedchat
    In reply to @jswilliams
  • judykaylane May 22 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    A1: w/tech teach a lot more skills, typing, formatting, but certainly content in Eng #IEedchat
  • Chad_Shaner May 22 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    A1: Skills lay foundation for content learning so it depends on where your students are in the journey #IEedchat
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    I love teaching content, but I think I got so burned out on Ss not engaging w/ content that it became easier to teach skills. #IEedchat
    In reply to @rguztec
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    Q1b: How do you decide what content should be in or out of your lessons? #IEedchat
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    A1 Skills can also include collaboration, communication, innovation, creativity... #ieedchat
  • jswilliams May 22 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    A1b: In my lesson, everything is on purpose. If it doesn't serve a purpose then its out. #IEedchat
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    I teach science so everything gets connected to food,it can be easier than other subjects. I guess my liberal arts education helps #IEedchat
    In reply to @K8Applebee
  • mark_synnott May 22 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A1b: If it's worth teaching and applies to my Ss lives, I teach it. #IEedchat
  • massignmenthelp May 22 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    #ieedchat #edchat #edtech #SpeakOut Top 5 Concerns Students Have While Writing Assignments https://t.co/QNgbrlLwjX
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A2If part of the standards content needs to be taught.If the standards are skill based, content can relate to interest&exploration.#ieedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 May 22 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A1: I push the content that relates to what's going on in the real world and that can relate to my Ss lives #IEedchat
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A1B:I modify on a regular basis on how the Ss interact with it, sometimes I go more in depth and others I just skim. #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A1: It has to be balanced. I like how the 8 math practices blend well over all grades https://t.co/IpHs6vVZJZ #IEedchat
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A1b: I try to choose content that is relevant, engaging, platform for open discussion. But mostly it needs to have depth. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Q2 in 1 minute. #IEedchat
  • judykaylane May 22 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    A1b: Stds., collaboration & pacing w/colleagues, student interest hopefully #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 May 22 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    A1b: I push the content that relates to what's going on in the world as well as what relates to the Ss lives #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    Q2: Should all Ss learn the same content, or should it differ for those with different aspirations, abilities, and interests? Why? #IEedchat
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    I think the math practices bring math to life and increase the possibility of application and long term retention.#ieedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    More specifically I used formative assessment on skill https://t.co/2EN2Mp9mgB ... #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    and build conceptual understanding with visualizations. https://t.co/JpAzUvzpMH #IEedchat
  • Chad_Shaner May 22 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    A2: content that has the most relevance to Ss will have the deepest impact. If possible, allow Ss to choose content #IEedchat
  • mark_synnott May 22 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A2: We should structure our courses in a way where students choose what they want to learn and take charge of their own learning. #IEedchat
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A2:Balance is key, I think all Ss should get a foundation of Lit, Hist, Science and Math.They should also be more free to choose #IEedchat
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A2: In Eng I think the content can definitely differ. Difficulty is finding time to cultivate different content & keep it current. #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A2: Hard to answer this. There should be common foundations. #IEedchat
  • judykaylane May 22 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A2: Ss should not necessarily learn the same content, honestly I struggle w/giving and expecting more from my gifted learners #IEedchat
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    Were thinking on the same level #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    ...Ss can pursue different ?s in learning experience, but learning is social. That implies that there should be shared space. #IEedchat
  • AssignmentHelpN May 22 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    #ieedchat #edchat #edtech #SpeakOut The Ultimate Compilation of 60 Ways To Use an iPad in the Classroom https://t.co/Du9eR0MYRB
  • Chrisjlara24 May 22 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    A2: I think a little bit of both. Give the basics and foundations and then allow the Ss to decide what they want to dig deeper in #IEedchat
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    In Math, I can see that common foundations are both skills & content; however, in Eng, the common foundations can be just skills. #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Q2b: What is an important area or topic that is not being taught in our schools? #IEedchat
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Great!That would make the skills essential. Content exploration will result in life skills that will have a long term impact.#ieedchat
    In reply to @mark_synnott
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    I'm not against this nor what @mark_synnott is saying... can we say S choice still requires guidance for the path? #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chad_Shaner, @mark_synnott
  • mark_synnott May 22 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    A2b: We aren't teaching basic accounting and personal finances enough. #IEedchat
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    Agreed! #ieedchat
    In reply to @K8Applebee, @MathButler
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    Same content is what drives me nuts about some of my Eng colleagues. Wish more kids could explore lit without content boundaries. #IEedchat
    In reply to @judykaylane
  • jswilliams May 22 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    A2b: Character education. #IEedchat
  • judykaylane May 22 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    A2: these days a lot more dig cit, never enough #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    Eventually - Ss mature to point where learning can be completely self guided, but I feel that maturity needs nurturing. #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chad_Shaner, @mark_synnott
  • Chad_Shaner May 22 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    Most definitely, Ts must be the guide otherwise the descent into chaos defeats learning #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler, @mark_synnott
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    Q3 in one minute. #IEedchat
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    Yes! Also reading skills necessary to understand the documents that go with this. #IEedchat
    In reply to @mark_synnott
  • Chrisjlara24 May 22 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    A2b: Chicano history. It's barely in the standards and when it is it barely scratches the surface and is not relatable to SS #IEedchat
  • Chad_Shaner May 22 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    A2b: Resilience, self-reliance, grit #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    A2b: Empathy https://t.co/NDS3UYHiJ5 #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    Q3: How can we modify the curriculum so that there is adequate time for in-depth learning and skill building? #IEedchat
  • judykaylane May 22 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    at some point in the year I like to do lit circle type things and Ss choose books #IEedchat
    • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:47 PM EDT
      Same content is what drives me nuts about some of my Eng colleagues. Wish more kids could explore lit without content boundaries. #IEedchat
      In reply to @judykaylane
  • jswilliams May 22 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    When you have a chance #IEedchat, watch this video by @willrich45. https://t.co/XusCxGjDgf
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    A2 When Ss explore, the purpose needs clarity. What is the intent of the exploration? Why are they learning the content/skills? #ieedchat
  • EduGladiators May 22 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    Missed #EduGladiators LIVE w/#ImpactMatters @ZacharyJeans Catch the replay ⏭https://t.co/4JzTw6gGjI #EdPiper #IEedchat #akedchat #TOSAchat
  • Chrisjlara24 May 22 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A2b: also a more hands on to economics by teaching them about retirement and how to file taxes #IEedchat
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A3 Provide time for curriculum by combining standards, use projects & problem-based learning. Identify the essential. #ieedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A3: It's more about modifying the classroom practices I think. Formative assessment ≠ easy, but done well can incorporate balance. #IEedchat
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A3:Love to structure my class so students are self-paced through skills with T guidance + in-depth project/problem exploration. #IEedchat
  • Chad_Shaner May 22 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    A3: many times skills and content is learned simultaneously. Skills need a quick intensity to allow time for slow deep learning #IEedchat
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    A3:NGSS 4 quadrant in Science allows Ss to lead their learning and build the Skills from what they observe and expand Crit Thinkng #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 May 22 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    A3: I personally will sacrifice some content that's not as necessary in order to make time for research and skill building #IEedchat
  • mark_synnott May 22 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    A3: Just like online adaptive tests, we need adaptive curriculums that change with each student's mastery of its content. #IEedchat
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    Clear outcome and performance expectations are also valuable if students are given voice and choice.#ieedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    Q3b: How can we assess in-depth learning and skill building? #IEedchat
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    But with that you are allowing them to build their unique experiences & cultivate their knowledge, which is def good and worth it #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chrisjlara24
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    Skills transcend the year where content may be more confined. #ieedchat
    In reply to @Chad_Shaner
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    A3: @eileen_depka "clear outcome & performance expectations #IEedchat
  • Chad_Shaner May 22 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    A3b: huge fan of PBL https://t.co/t7hHiCdjkb #IEedchat
  • judykaylane May 22 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    A3b: come on I need some great answers here #IEedchat
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    A3B:In Science discuss Journal Articles with Ss relating to content they learned about, in order to check for understanding #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    Any final thoughts on what we should be teaching in our classes? #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    Also - #IEedchat check out this comment cited to @stevenstrogatz, source: https://t.co/J64lHwoybw
    • robotbambi May 21 @ 2:05 PM EDT
      Love this quote from @stevenstrogatz on why computational fluency & conceptual understanding are both important
  • rguztec May 22 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    Were using lot's of Phenomena in Science at CMI to drive the learning #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chad_Shaner
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    For me, I use the same criteria throughout the year & make rubrics that fit the expected outcomes so Ss can trace their growth #IEedchat
    In reply to @judykaylane
  • shane_pinnell May 22 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    A3b: Projects are good displays of the depth of learning and skills built. Also, ability to teach what you have learned. #IEedchat
  • eileen_depka May 22 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    3bImportant to define learning and skill building. What is the goal? What does good look like? If S see it, they achieve it.#ieedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 May 22 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    A3b: projects and project based learning would be a good thing to use #IEedchat
  • MathButler May 22 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Wrong source... here is the correct one: https://t.co/5EMf76FFIg Still both links are relevant. #IEedchat
    In reply to @stevenstrogatz
  • ieedchat - Moderator May 22 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining #IEedchat. Next week we will be discussing the School Year in Review, see you then
  • K8Applebee May 22 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    FT: regardless of what we teach & how, Ss should leave our rooms have grown in their curiosity & a desire to explore more #IEedchat
  • jswilliams May 22 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Final thoughts on #IEedchat: Whatever you teach, make it relevant.