#musedchat Archive

Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.

Monday February 19, 2018
8:00 PM EST

  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:00 PM EST
    It's #musedchat time! We're continuing last week's conversation on diversity and inclusion. Be sure to introduce yourself! #musiced
  • ochoajon8 Feb 19 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hello all! Jon ochoa EL general music in dearborn, mi #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:03 PM EST
    How are you tonight, Jon? #musedchat
    In reply to @ochoajon8
  • phyllissings Feb 19 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Hey all. Olympic watching from Louisiana tonight. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Good to see you, Phyllis! Ice dancing tonight? #musedchat
    In reply to @phyllissings
  • Dale_Chu Feb 19 @ 8:08 PM EST
    HAPPENING NOW: @jguarr moderating a discussion on diversity and inclusion. Follow along at #musedchat!
  • AssignmentHelpN Feb 19 @ 8:10 PM EST
    7 Effective Habits of Writing the Best College Application Essay https://t.co/EDtWOHuw0P #collabed #TLchat #musedchat #teacherwellness #nyedchat #SocEdChat #STEMHQ #vachat #WonderChat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Q1 coming...light turnout tonight, we'll see who shows up late #musedchat
  • dan_austin76 Feb 19 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Hello! From Guelph, Ontario. High school band. It’s music festival season up here in Canada so lots going on for music teachers #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Q1: Last week we talked mostly about racial diversity. This week, we'll focus on gender. With regards to music lit selection, why do you think females are underrepresented? #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Good to see you, hope the festival season is going well #musedchat
    In reply to @dan_austin76
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:16 PM EST
    And Q1b: I know there's significant underrepresentation in the band world...are there similar trends across choral/string/pop literature? #musedchat
  • dan_austin76 Feb 19 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1. I think instrumental music has historically been an “old boys club”. Things are changing but it is going to take some time before we notice a big shift #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • dan_austin76 Feb 19 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A1b. It’s not as bad in the choral world. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Agreed on the "old boys club" mentality. That's still pretty firmly entrenched in the profession #musedchat
    In reply to @dan_austin76
  • ochoajon8 Feb 19 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A1 i always try and be aware of exposing Ss to voices of every kind. I am not sure it is as easy in the band/choir world. Once Ss see people like the@, their minds open #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:22 PM EST
    And that's where the shift starts to happen...if our students see the possibilities, they'll start taking the leadership roles themselves #musedchat
    In reply to @ochoajon8
  • SarahMJoncas Feb 19 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Hi #musedchat ! Sarah, k-5 music/band/chorus in MA. Sorry I'm late, just finished with my grad school class
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Good to see you, Sarah. What class are you taking right now? #musedchat
    In reply to @SarahMJoncas
  • SarahMJoncas Feb 19 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A1: it's less convenient to find and less well known... I can name five pieces by men to use as listening examples for dynamics but would need to research to find one by a woman #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:24 PM EST
    I think it probably depends on the piece #musedchat
    In reply to @SchneiderBrandt
  • SarahMJoncas Feb 19 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Good to see you too! I'm taking Foundations of music education: psychology and sociology! #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • SarahMJoncas Feb 19 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A1b: I don't think it's a total lack of music in any of these areas... but a lack of awareness/familiarity. We all need to do better to promote and use music by PoC/women/others who aren't dead white guys #musedchat
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 19 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Whoops too much Penang chicken. Here late. K-8 gen mus MI #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I'm thinking in abstract terms, like what's the composers intention? Instruments are definitely genderless #musedchat
    In reply to @SchneiderBrandt
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Hola! #musedchat
    In reply to @Muzzikkatt
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 19 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Not many pieces on required festival list; so only option is to use as choice piece and be risk taker #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:36 PM EST
    How do you discuss musical gender stereotypes with your students? (I.e, instrument selection) #musedchat
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 19 @ 8:36 PM EST
    True. Who is composer & who knows them? #musedchat
    • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:34 PM EST
      I'm thinking in abstract terms, like what's the composers intention? Instruments are definitely genderless #musedchat
      In reply to @SchneiderBrandt
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 19 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Actually use pictures and reverse stereotypes when I can. Look for them. #musedchat
  • SarahMJoncas Feb 19 @ 8:39 PM EST
    a2: I share counter-examples! I love showing men playing flute, women playing tuba and bass, and especially "manly men" singing high notes #musedchat
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 19 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Cool videos from Apartment Sessions via YouTube. Cue to people #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Carol Jantsch and Velvet Brown on tuba ftw! #musedchat
    In reply to @SarahMJoncas
  • randyvoisinet Feb 19 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Jumping in A2. Tough one that I haven’t solved. I’m in a small district where “men are men.” Most guys that start on flute or clarinet end up quitting or switching. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:43 PM EST
    I can't tell a musical difference in band either, but I do like to share composer backgrounds with students. #musedchat
    In reply to @SchneiderBrandt
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Often, it seems like it's the parents who subscribe to the stereotypes. Kids wouldn't have an issue if not for that. #musedchat
    In reply to @randyvoisinet
  • randyvoisinet Feb 19 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Good remind. Have had a few parents over the years ask if it is “normal” for boys to play those. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • Muzzikkatt Feb 19 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Actually asked young male student why FL; replied was going to walk to school for next 6 yrs wanted to have lightest 1 #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:46 PM EST
    I think I've got...four male flautists this year #musedchat
    In reply to @randyvoisinet
  • musichollie Feb 19 @ 8:46 PM EST
    #musedchat A1- I don’t know- do publishing companies hold some responsibility? Are they publishing diverse composers’ works?
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Three female tubists, too. It's pretty awesome. #musedchat
    In reply to @randyvoisinet
  • theatreducate - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Hi all! Late to the party! #musedchat
  • theatreducate - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A1: I don’t know. When I encouraged students to chose persons of color, women or a combination, most still chose white guys. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Feb 19 @ 8:50 PM EST
    They're getting better...Julie Giroux is very prominent, and I saw a few pieces by Yukiko Nishimura pop up when I was purchasing music this year. #musedchat
    In reply to @musichollie