#sstlap Archive
Weekly chat 8CST that infuses the ideas of Teach Like a Pirate by Dave Burgess into the Social Studies classroom.
Thursday February 4, 2016
9:00 PM EST
Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to
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tonight's Qs
https://t.co/2SJ71jdxEY
Talking POV in history-hope you put your thinking cap on!
https://t.co/k1A6u4VDLr
amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:01 PM EST
Excited for the topic tonight, great questions
@Braz74
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:02 PM EST
Hey Gang! Matt from Atlanta, Ga here! 8th Gr US History & Gov't. Civil War Week is next week!
#CivilWar
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https://t.co/8S9MUNW4Yg
dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:04 PM EST
Hey
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Derik Irelan, newly certified from Wisconsin
Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:04 PM EST
Great to have you join in the conversation -Please Intro self- Best conversation you had w/ a ss this week add to
#flyhighfri
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:04 PM EST
@amcrowe5
glad they are making a connection!can't wait to hear the ideas
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scottmpetri
Feb 4 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hi
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Can't make it tonight but I'll lob a few answers
@Braz74
's excellent questions. Hope I get the timing right.
Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:05 PM EST
@MrBarry628
Hey the first question is kind of up your alley-- wondering how southern states teach about causes of CW --
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:05 PM EST
Andy from NC, world history. Had good chat w/Ss about what was real & what was fake in movie 300 after talking Thermopylae today
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Meems852
Feb 4 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hello!! Amy from Frederick, MD! 7th grade medieval history!
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I hope everyone had a great week!
GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hi
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best convo w/ a ss?? let's keep it clean ;)
Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:06 PM EST
Ben Brazeau Tech Integrator GB WI Host of
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Best Ss convo w/ daughter
https://t.co/3gNPdysJCB
led to tonight's Qs
#flyhighfri
mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:06 PM EST
What's up Pirates!! Matt from the STL, Mo. Can't wait for
#edcampstl
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sgormanyogi
Feb 4 @ 9:06 PM EST
Hello
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Susan from Arlington, Texas. 8th grade history ninja! :).
Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:06 PM EST
@dragonmark_101
Derik - great to see you again-- congrats on the certification !!! working on finding a job?
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CHitch94
Feb 4 @ 9:06 PM EST
Chris from Bloomington, IN. Teach world history for online HS. Hoping to pop in - finishing up a mtg now & then bed for kids.
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:06 PM EST
@scottmpetri
sad you can't make it but glad you are tossing out your ideas--
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:07 PM EST
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Penny from Virginia- geography T and the best convo this week was Ss still wanting to finish exam after blizzard cancelled them LOL
jmadlin001
Feb 4 @ 9:07 PM EST
Hi all! Julie from Northern New York.
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:07 PM EST
@Meems852
We had a snow day, and a 2 hour delay after stayed home with daughter who was sick on Monday so very very short week --
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golliharsclass
Feb 4 @ 9:07 PM EST
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@golliharsclass
from Texas. 4th grade/ SS facilitator for
@OakHillsTerrace
in
@NISD
@NISDTechnology
Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:08 PM EST
@sgormanyogi
love the history ninja!!! great to see you again
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:08 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
hey Matt- great to see you again--
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scottmpetri
Feb 4 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 States' rights are always a complex issue for Ss. Civil War still means different things to different people
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:10 PM EST
Q1
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https://t.co/LuYiSljF1a
jmadlin001
Feb 4 @ 9:10 PM EST
@Chucktaft
I am stealing this idea!
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:10 PM EST
@CHitch94
hope you can make it--daughters are up talking to my brother- wishing him happy biday instead of snoring away
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STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:10 PM EST
Sorry I'm late
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- got distracted by the preview for State of Jones.
Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:10 PM EST
@golliharsclass
glad you are jumping aboard tonight..
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: ALL history is about POV. We try to look at as many POV as possible: West Exp 1840s -- Natives, Whites, Mexicans, British, etc
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danklumper
Feb 4 @ 9:11 PM EST
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Dan Klumper. Social studies Instructional coach. South Dakota.
MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: We look at how all ppl were affected by the
#CivilWar
esp laws, actions, and we LOVE Sherman's March POV - Terrorist or Hero?
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: by using different sources of information. Primary sources from different groups, and archaeology to put the writing in context
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golliharsclass
Feb 4 @ 9:12 PM EST
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A1: Difficult as passions still run deep. Speak honestly of the times & ways of thinking & how they've evolved. Learn from mistakes
sgormanyogi
Feb 4 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 POV represented by student taking on roles from each section and defending perspective on issues in seminar.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 after college literature course - use Frederick Douglas' narrative of a slave- and supply N & S activity- need to do more for POV
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STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:13 PM EST
Tell Ss that they get what brain can dev handle. Elem = "about slavery", Mid = "states rights", etc. Ts job is to help decode mix
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:13 PM EST
BTW This is such a great and clever idea!
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https://t.co/4mA0Bs6fyt
MrBarry628
Feb 3 @ 8:49 AM EST
Gettin ready for
#CivilWar
unit!!!
#davis8
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@CivilWarHistory
@SmithsonianCW
@amhistorymuseum
https://t.co/pNSnALbnFu
MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:13 PM EST
@GeoPenny
Thank you Penny! Ss kinda dig it & enjoy reading the different pics
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:14 PM EST
@MrBarry628
like the Sherman's March- Terrorist or Hero-- that idea comes up later- but great to look at his Total War idea
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:14 PM EST
@danklumper
Dan great to see you again-- hope all is well
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Meems852
Feb 4 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 when I taught about the civil war during student teaching I made stations representing diff pov w videos and primary docs
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:14 PM EST
@Braz74
Not gonna lie...I'm a huge fan of "Total Warfare"....
#BuryEm
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 primary sources, work to find as many perspectives as possible & make point to have Ss explain, understand these diff viewpoints
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mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1. I try to make sure the Ss understand the big picture slavery, states rights, sectionalism, manifest destiny, all roll into one.
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STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:15 PM EST
Fav activity for POV is the Nacirema article. Helps as ref point as we get to more touchy topics
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danklumper
Feb 4 @ 9:15 PM EST
@Braz74
thanks! I appreciate that. Attendance might be spotty but I'll jump in when I'm able.
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1
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POV can be presented with Ss discussions. I use maps... lots and lots of maps, try to bring in more than just N v S
GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:16 PM EST
@STLinOK
yep, love that one!!!
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jmadlin001
Feb 4 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1 You can't teach history w/out POV. Ss seem to get why both sides were fighting pretty easily.
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:16 PM EST
Very well said!
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https://t.co/PgUpO3eItR
jmadlin001
Feb 4 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1 You can't teach history w/out POV. Ss seem to get why both sides were fighting pretty easily.
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:16 PM EST
https://t.co/iXy48mvWuY
Like simulations and role plays-
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sgormanyogi
Feb 4 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 POV represented by student taking on roles from each section and defending perspective on issues in seminar.
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:17 PM EST
@STLinOK
also the Sacred Rac article... great POV of alternate cultures/ alternate histories
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: As y'all know, I am a HUGE support of Natives POV & the opposite side of history so CC POV is not popular in here :)
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q2
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https://t.co/rGenqMbd6M
MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: I hate Columbus Day & the lesson about him "discovering" We totally look at Natives POV & social shifts in world cultures/ideas
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:18 PM EST
Sorry I pre-programmed a few responses, my A2 came early lol
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I'm LIVE now though
STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:18 PM EST
@amcrowe5
I talk in gibberish w/ grand gestures 4 Columbus. Then give the native "who's this strange guy?!?" gig
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STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:19 PM EST
I like that one too!
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https://t.co/g5SiKdPh30
GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:17 PM EST
@STLinOK
also the Sacred Rac article... great POV of alternate cultures/ alternate histories
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2 use his own diary-- with 50 men and muskets - can conquer them all--
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: I like asking the Ss "What do you think the Natives FIRST thought was when they saw CC"
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Meems852
Feb 4 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2 I always like to mention that he wasn't actually the first person to "discover" America
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2
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Columbus "discovered" the west route towards India and stumbled upon land ALREADY DISCOVERED! That's my take for geography class
STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: ConquistaDora...after(!) the Ss get the reasons for "no contest conquest" in the Americas attitude
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM EST
@MrBarry628
no worries i only have 6 questions so had to spread them out--
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM EST
anyone use Guns, Germs, Steel?
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM EST
@STLinOK
that's awesome. My new Ss may like that one. I'll brush up on my spanish and start class speaking in it or italian for CC
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golliharsclass
Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM EST
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A2: Honesty again should supersede tradition. He was human & pone to human mistakes and lapses of judgement. He had debts to repay
MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:22 PM EST
A3: Sooo we talked about J. Brown yesterday :) Asked the Ss: Martyr or Terrorist? Mixed reviews but its GOOD! Try to be open-minded
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:22 PM EST
@GeoPenny
I would if I taught the subject...AWESOME book!!!!!!
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:22 PM EST
@GeoPenny
yup, not sure I can for this year, but definitely used parts for APWH
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McNulty1977
Feb 4 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: I teach the history & tell them the story. I avoid any bias. Even in 3rd grade, they do pretty well forming their own judgments.
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STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:23 PM EST
Next year's goal is to add something shiny that will flash light in their eyes as I strut &make no sense
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https://t.co/14TqITxR2s
amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM EST
@STLinOK
that's awesome. My new Ss may like that one. I'll brush up on my spanish and start class speaking in it or italian for CC
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:23 PM EST
I had ss do an interview project of conquistadors- and natives-- made video
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https://t.co/NbySbpBoAd
STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: ConquistaDora...after(!) the Ss get the reasons for "no contest conquest" in the Americas attitude
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STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:24 PM EST
Seems like there should be a Horrible Hsitories skit for this one, right?
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https://t.co/7kmKrpvldX
Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:23 PM EST
I had ss do an interview project of conquistadors- and natives-- made video
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https://t.co/NbySbpBoAd
STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: ConquistaDora...after(!) the Ss get the reasons for "no contest conquest" in the Americas attitude
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mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2: we talk about how the Native Americans found Columbus lost at sea.
#notchina
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:25 PM EST
@STLinOK
those books are sooooo funny!!
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Meems852
Feb 4 @ 9:25 PM EST
@STLinOK
@Braz74
I know they have some awesome ones for my Latin America unit! One of the Pizarro ones is awesome!
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:25 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
That is awesome!!! LOL
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2 like using pics, one shows Euro view w/natives as savage cannibals. Break down how wrong image was
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:26 PM EST
Q3
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https://t.co/xFsfKnu750
STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:26 PM EST
@Meems852
@Braz74
I remember an Aztec infomercial one that was pretty good
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scottmpetri
Feb 4 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Middle East shows ystrday's terrorist becomes tmw's freedom fighter. Is ur POV Capitalist or Nationalist?
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:27 PM EST
A2: I try to show most historic figures as people. Capable of amazing things, lucky, make mistakes, and can do horrible things
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Here's the lesson I use
https://t.co/Jz5yJ4pNL7
Does good job with that question
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:27 PM EST
@Braz74
wow... i can't answer this in 140 characters
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jmadlin001
Feb 4 @ 9:27 PM EST
@Meems852
I just had a great conversation about Columbus w/Ss. They said, "He didn't really discover America."
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: Sooo we talked about J. Brown yesterday :) Asked the Ss: Martyr or Terrorist? Mixed reviews but its GOOD! Be open-minded
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:28 PM EST
@Braz74
i try to break stereotypes mostly
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:28 PM EST
@GeoPenny
try multiple posts-- Q3 is part A B C --
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:28 PM EST
@MrBarry628
perfect example of that, depends on view, can make argument for either side
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Chucktaft
Feb 4 @ 9:28 PM EST
@jmadlin001
send me your emAil and I will forward my docs!
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:29 PM EST
@amcrowe5
Ss have to come up with ideas for BOTH side...
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:29 PM EST
@MrBarry628
I do that too, need to know both sides, make your opinions stronger when you know both sides of it
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mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3a: depends who's side your on. Sons of Liberty to some thought them Patriots. To Loyalists thought terrorists.
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM EST
@amcrowe5
@MrBarry628
or make arguments for both sides!! i had a prof once assign me an essay to write about the goodness of fascism
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: I really like the Star Trek Enterprise episode handled terrorist/freedom fighter idea
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM EST
AWESOME thought & idea Matt!!!
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https://t.co/Itvm0IDKiM
mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3a: depends who's side your on. Sons of Liberty to some thought them Patriots. To Loyalists thought terrorists.
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mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3a
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History is written by the winners.
STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:31 PM EST
Describe the scenario & get Ss all riled up, then reveal it's SOL. They're on to me now
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https://t.co/7ZpuJtvFXr
mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3a: depends who's side your on. Sons of Liberty to some thought them Patriots. To Loyalists thought terrorists.
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Meems852
Feb 4 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3 I love splitting Ss in half &giving each side an article with a doff bias and have them debate! So much fun to show perspective!
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jmadlin001
Feb 4 @ 9:31 PM EST
A2 I have Native American Ss, so Columbus is not a hero. Explorers are people warts and all.
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:32 PM EST
@GeoPenny
@MrBarry628
definitely, when we do dictator speed dating, Ss have to find positives of what they accomplished
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:32 PM EST
This is same idea of how we could look at Secessionists-- terrorists or patriots
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https://t.co/J8ABtojy8w
MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM EST
AWESOME thought & idea Matt!!!
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https://t.co/Itvm0IDKiM
mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3a: depends who's side your on. Sons of Liberty to some thought them Patriots. To Loyalists thought terrorists.
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:32 PM EST
I also like remembering how the IRA changed from terrorist to political organization
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:33 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
We do cool POV activity about a football game to show how that idea works
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:33 PM EST
exactly-- interesting how with so much tech and information we still allow this to be the case
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https://t.co/lfqoNbaHKl
mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3a
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History is written by the winners.
mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:33 PM EST
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we did the same for John Brown. 90% of class thought him a crazy nut job
MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:34 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
Aww, but I heart John Brown
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sgormanyogi
Feb 4 @ 9:35 PM EST
A3 present the points of view. Students determine which perspective they agree with. Never pick a side for them.
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:35 PM EST
Q4
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https://t.co/CvJtnnbC5H
dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4 That's the magic formula we are all looking for length vs. breath
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I think jigsawing can help in the right setting
mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:36 PM EST
@MrBarry628
but Im from Missouri we look at him a little different..... Potawatomi creek
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STLinOK
Feb 4 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: get Ss in the habit of curiosity & asking "why". Even a quick Google search is better than just acceptance
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4 Not easy, like what
@BigHistoryPro
does
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: Ft. Sumter started the Civil War...or helped spark the Civil Rights movement?
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Hmm....
GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:37 PM EST
@MrBarry628
@mhoeckelman
then you may like this song about collateral damage re. JB
https://t.co/cgV24UbGLA
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scottmpetri
Feb 4 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4 Hist Ts need to focus on depth, not breadth. My Ss are spending a month on WWI novels
https://t.co/LvT8dS3T3H
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scottmpetri
Feb 4 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4 Hist Ts need to focus on depth, not breadth. My Ss are spending a month on WWI novels
https://t.co/CjBVR8PXo6
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4 used worldhistoryforusall - create in depth experiences- Zinn Shegg- simulations role play- can't cover it all
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:37 PM EST
I did somehow end up with students who loved Andrew Jackson when he is one of the people in history I hate the most.
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:38 PM EST
Someone is speaking my language tonight.
#ILoveAndrewJackson
@7thpresident
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https://t.co/Pb9nO8T7iu
dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:37 PM EST
I did somehow end up with students who loved Andrew Jackson when he is one of the people in history I hate the most.
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:39 PM EST
@Braz74
A4 get Ss the map and cause/effects of events but still try to get Big Picture
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:39 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
https://t.co/ZXhJyLUhBF
here you go. Good for showing multiple povs & bias, etc
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:39 PM EST
He knows you well -
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https://t.co/5lmANX0r9F
MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:38 PM EST
Someone is speaking my language tonight.
#ILoveAndrewJackson
@7thpresident
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https://t.co/Pb9nO8T7iu
dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:37 PM EST
I did somehow end up with students who loved Andrew Jackson when he is one of the people in history I hate the most.
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mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:40 PM EST
@dragonmark_101
destroyed bank of the US, we reward him by putting him on the $20 bill the most widely used bill
#thankyouatm
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jmadlin001
Feb 4 @ 9:41 PM EST
A3 On my soapbox. I adv solving probs peacefully. Ss have to look @ reasons why ppl did what they did & decide for themselves.
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4 I'll be honest, I try to focus more on these big pictures things that than the minutiae of World. Ss want/need to know that stuff
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:41 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
I've heard of reservations not accepting $20 bills because of what he did
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MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:42 PM EST
@dragonmark_101
The Cherokee reservation in NC does not accept $20 --- Fact
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:42 PM EST
I had no idea-- that i s super interesting
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https://t.co/B2qFWFh0oh
MrBarry628
Feb 4 @ 9:42 PM EST
@dragonmark_101
The Cherokee reservation in NC does not accept $20 --- Fact
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:43 PM EST
we did Indian Removal Act simulation and he was the villian to Ss in this--
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https://t.co/4o4dhrS5a6
dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:37 PM EST
I did somehow end up with students who loved Andrew Jackson when he is one of the people in history I hate the most.
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:44 PM EST
@Braz74
way cool!!
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:44 PM EST
Q5
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https://t.co/2qvvXeVvkw
scottmpetri
Feb 4 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5 Psych game listeners & tappers teaches Ss how hard it is to unknow something. Applies to mores of the past
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5: Do you rectify them? Or do you work with the students understand that things are not always simple
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5 you explain the times & rationale, use them as learning examples for the future
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mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5: Even Good Guys Do Bad Things
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:46 PM EST
@amcrowe5
and also "winners" vs "losers" of history. is this US v THEM anymore?
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:47 PM EST
And bad guys have done good things
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https://t.co/sRolCGIyrI
mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5: Even Good Guys Do Bad Things
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:47 PM EST
so many interesting ideas tonight-- I am going to have to go back through the feed to catch up--
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:48 PM EST
@dragonmark_101
PREACH!! so many Ss seem to think "we" started slavery and that slavery "ended" with the American CW.
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:48 PM EST
@dragonmark_101
and many guys have done nothing
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5 hard to do- point out so we know humans are imperfect and we need to stand up to our Own Gov to make it live up to values
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:49 PM EST
@GeoPenny
exactly, think
@TheCrashCourse
does well w/this too. Did Greece vs. Persia today, showed Greece not all its made out to be
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mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5: Can't use the future (now) to justify what happened back then. Pov and right time right place
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:49 PM EST
@GeoPenny
I had my students compare slavery to the past and current instances of slavery
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:50 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
exactly, is difficult, but can't always view history through contemporary lens, societies evolve, things change
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:51 PM EST
@amcrowe5
@TheCrashCourse
showed Ss the Ag Rev vid from CC. then read Diamond's "Worst Mistake" essay. way cool to see different POV
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:52 PM EST
Q6
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:52 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
agreed - but need Ss to question actions and not just accept that our GOV always right!
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5 I put leaders on trial for actions but didn't tell them name-- kids were upset with many until they found out US leader then OK
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:53 PM EST
@Braz74
@mhoeckelman
Absolutely, our job to teach them to be global citizens. Way more important than remembering random facts
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mhoeckelman
Feb 4 @ 9:54 PM EST
@Braz74
What????? The gov is always right because Big Brother told me.
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6 you try to find stories of the every day & ordinary, the innovators & activists, not just the leaders & history writers
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GeoPenny
Feb 4 @ 9:55 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
@Braz74
LOL
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scottmpetri
Feb 4 @ 9:55 PM EST
A6 This Courage to Care assignment
https://t.co/6Rfc0FBOvz
teaches about gentiles who saved Jews in WW2.
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amcrowe5
Feb 4 @ 9:55 PM EST
@amcrowe5
which we all know is easier said than done to find some of these but they're out there
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:55 PM EST
@mhoeckelman
wow flashbacks to 1984!!! nice-- wait till they microchip you.
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jmadlin001
Feb 4 @ 9:55 PM EST
A4 Spend more time on fewer topics. Delving more deeply allows for greater understanding. Help Ss make connections to other topics.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:56 PM EST
depth is better - build skills not an overview understanding--
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jmadlin001
Feb 4 @ 9:55 PM EST
A4 Spend more time on fewer topics. Delving more deeply allows for greater understanding. Help Ss make connections to other topics.
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:56 PM EST
We also need to make sure that students understand that "triumph" is retaliative. Slaves could triumph by not giving in
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Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:56 PM EST
that is great point!!
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dragonmark_101
Feb 4 @ 9:56 PM EST
We also need to make sure that students understand that "triumph" is retaliative. Slaves could triumph by not giving in
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alexstubenbort
Feb 4 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6:By moving our Ss to the awe of their generations unique ability to share their stories like never before.
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Braz74
- Moderator
Feb 4 @ 9:52 PM EST
Q6
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scottmpetri
Feb 4 @ 9:59 PM EST
Thanks for a great
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@Braz74
I'm looking forward to reading the Storify. Down 10 lbs thanks to my 6p spin class
Braz74
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Feb 4 @ 9:59 PM EST
Great conversation tonight - you guys rocked some tough question --
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