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Wednesday September 14, 2016
9:30 PM EDT
pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 9:30 PM EDT
It's 8:30 on a Wednesday.
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time! Paul is here and ready to go. Who is joining us tonight?
PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Howdy y'all!! Welcome to another great addition to
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The fastest hour in Texas!
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I am Michael from Brenham. Glad to be here with my buddy
@pwagnerlcisd
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 9:32 PM EDT
All hail the great and powerful Ogg!
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I am Michael from Brenham. Glad to be here with my buddy
@pwagnerlcisd
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Kelley from North Texas! ready to do some VS!
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Tonight
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is examining Project Based Vs. Problem Based Learning! Come join in on the discussion!
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Excited to be joining from east Texas :D Last week as instructional tech and moving into marketing next week
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Think I am going to enjoy the chat with a cup of the new
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@JaimeDonally
congrats Jaime! Welcome back to
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Join us now for
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. Chat is starting now!
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Tonight
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is examining Project Based Vs. Problem Based Learning! Come join in on the discussion!
#MIEExpert
#pblchat
JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@KelleyJAndrews
I'm joining the
@atomic_learning
marketing team & doing social media/present/virtual events & more!
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:36 PM EDT
To be a problem or to be a project. That is the question.
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Question 1 is coming up!
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Where you at
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EduGladiators
Sep 14 @ 9:38 PM EDT
✨
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Sept 17✨ "Nothing happens unless first we dream." ~Carl Sandburg
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q1 Have you ever used or heard of either Project Based Learning or Problem Based Learning? Explain...
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@PrincipalOgg
this will be an interesting chat! Not sure if I'm leaning on one side or the other yet
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education_geek
Sep 14 @ 9:38 PM EDT
When we fully professionalize teaching, we will fully personalize learning.
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A1 Yes, I have done both. I like both for different reasons. :) pros/cons
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A1-I am coming familiar with Project Base Learning but I am new to the Problem side
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IvantheAggie
Sep 14 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A1:I'm familiar with Project based, but interested to know about problem based.
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT
What is the difference?
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A1 Yes, I have done both. I like both for different reasons. :) pros/cons
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AssignmentHelpN
Sep 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT
5 Major EdTech Highlights From Apple Keynote 2016
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A1 I've seen project based learning and problem based learning. They seem to offer different benefits
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massignmenthelp
Sep 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Few Strategies to Help Slow-learning Students
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A1: I dabbled in what I think would be problem based learning years ago while still in classroom. Kids loved it. Designed new school.
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@PrincipalOgg
Problem starts with a problem to solve, so it is more real-world but can be tougher in a way
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@PrincipalOgg
Problem can be good for controversial topics too.
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 9:42 PM EDT
How I see it: Project based is more open for Ss to work on a passion. Problem based can have Ss all focused on same problem.
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:43 PM EDT
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:43 PM EDT
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@IvantheAggie
I suppose I've never called it "problem based learning" but ultimately it is giving the Ss a chance to solve problems
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Oh, well I have be doing problem solving for some time.
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@pwagnerlcisd
that's a good point. There are unlimited ways to solve a problem, but a specific project is more focused
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Laurml
Sep 14 @ 9:45 PM EDT
#InternationalDotDay
#creativity
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@Lintelman5Class
Ss will make their mark!
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@IvantheAggie
and probably more creative too. No boundaries or restrictions to solve the problem as opposed to guidelines in projects
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Question 2 is coming up!
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A1-I would think Teachers might find problem base learning a little easier to set up than project base learning
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q2 What are some of the differences between Problem Vs Project Based Learning?
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@JaimeDonally
@IvantheAggie
yeah..projects have rubrics, so easier to grade though..ha!
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@PrincipalOgg
that seems to be the biggest complaint in project based learning is the prep
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A2 Problem based is usually shorter, tries to offer a solution instead of making something. Both are creative though
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A2-Looks like one has a focus direction while another offers a wide variety of choice.
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Speaking of grades, how do u grade a problem solving process? Creativity, solving the problem, process?
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@IvantheAggie
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A2 yes, if you let students design their project, lots of choice!
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IvantheAggie
Sep 14 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Brb, gotta drive home from dinner.
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A2-Both can offer collaboration and you can be creative in the process to reach your goal
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A2: Project based often has a longer timeline and more follow through. You should be seeing your project through. It can last years.
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@IvantheAggie
and we get so much more excitement, benefit and innovation with that freedom
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@JaimeDonally
@PrincipalOgg
pose the prob, brainstorm ideas, pros and cons, make something, might have to even do design process!
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@PrincipalOgg
yeah..i don't think either is bad. they both are great!
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:52 PM EDT
What if we did Problem and Project at the same time?!?
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mind. blown.
JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@pwagnerlcisd
makes me wonder if project based learning is the beginning of
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gone rogue
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ajholda
Sep 14 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Pittsburg ISD goes to Washington. A Blue Ribbon School of Excellence. Proud of my hometown!
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Question 3 is coming up!
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Q3 What are the similarities between Problem and Project Based Learning?
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@KelleyJAndrews
when I've done projects, I tried to open up some freedoms to allow a variation of completed projects.Tied in interests
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A3-They both can be messy! 😜
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A3 creativity, in depth thought process, more student led than lecture, collaboration, authentic learning
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@PrincipalOgg
yes! and organized chaos. everyone is doing different things. but i love it!
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IvantheAggie
Sep 14 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@JaimeDonally
freedom is always the answer!
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A3 Projects & problem based learning are typically team work, problem solving, collaboration, each person plays a vital part
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RidaOrtego
Sep 14 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Using a variety of materials to make words! Tech is great but it can't replicate the smell & feel of
@PlayDoh
!
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 10:00 PM EDT
A3: with both you as a teacher has to be open to things you would never dream of doing. Have to give up some control.
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 10:01 PM EDT
A3 Cont: What you can get out of it though can blow your mind. Give kids choice and freedom. Mix with passion and see results!
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:01 PM EDT
So true, but it can dry up or not be available (funding), so tech can be a good back up if needed
@RidaOrtego
@PlayDoh
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Those skills are what pretty much every business owner is looking for in an employee. Coincidence?
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A3 Projects & problem based learning are typically team work, problem solving, collaboration, each person plays a vital part
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:03 PM EDT
@pwagnerlcisd
I never struggled with giving up control, but I'm not a perfectionist & don't need to know everything. My issue was time
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Question 4 is coming up!
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q4 Do you think students prefer one type of PBL over another? Why or why not?
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:05 PM EDT
@pwagnerlcisd
great point! I wonder if we need more employees or innovators being discovered in the classroom?
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:07 PM EDT
@pwagnerlcisd
good businesses offer everyone a chance to use their strengths, but others seem to micromanage the employment terms
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A4-I am sure they do. That is the importance of knowing your students.
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A4 I think Ss like both. they like making a difference just like adults, so i almost say problem based!
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 10:09 PM EDT
A4-Some can handle the freedom while others might need a step by step guide
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:10 PM EDT
@PrincipalOgg
yes..the BIE website has good timeline templates, tasks, etc.
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A4 Some Ss want to know all the details while others like the freedom of variety. Seems GT Ss struggle without strict guidelines
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 10:11 PM EDT
@JaimeDonally
innovators always! They are the ones who will be able to adapt to whatever job is thrown their way.
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 10:11 PM EDT
A4-Might also depend on the outcome. Problem base might help with time limits
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A4: It will depend on Ss for that year. Some will want more guidance so they want problem based. You are telling them what to solve.
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:12 PM EDT
@PrincipalOgg
agreed. some projects can be done at home too. we had ss ask if they could miss recess to work on it!
#sillykids
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A4 Cont: other years you may have the passionate and motivated class. They want project based because it is all about their passion.
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Question 5 is coming up!
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:13 PM EDT
@pwagnerlcisd
so very true. Looking at old yearbooks today & saw "productive" mentioned a lot. We certainly have greater goals now
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 10:14 PM EDT
Q5 Do you think that either Problem or Project Based Learning is easier to plan and execute?
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:14 PM EDT
That's when you know your doing something right!
@KelleyJAndrews
@PrincipalOgg
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A5 Project is more established by teacher (more prep) while problem is more developed by Ss, but the grading would be more difficult
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A5 I think Project is easier...problem based the ss come up with solution. you guide their journey.
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 10:18 PM EDT
Not sure which is more difficult. Both will be difficult if you are not comfortable as a teacher working with rubrics. This is a must!
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:18 PM EDT
@JaimeDonally
exactly!!!! so more work up front, or at the end for the teacher. even steven lol.
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:19 PM EDT
@KelleyJAndrews
great point. The work is so worth it when it's something the Ss are fully vested in & never forget
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:20 PM EDT
@JaimeDonally
my own fave school moments were student led. :)
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PrincipalOgg
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Sep 14 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Checking out early folks. Y'all be good and finish strong this week
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Question 6 is coming up!
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JaimeDonally
Sep 14 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Loved the
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chat tonight! Gained some insight & inspiration 4 future projects Hope you all join
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next month
@globalmaker
TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Q6 Share some resources and tips for either Project or Problem Based Learning!
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A6 BIE for sure. Pinterest is great also
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:24 PM EDT
@JaimeDonally
thanks Jaime!!!!!!!!! keep being awesome!
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A6: Be open. Very rarely will it happen like you think it will...but usually it is ends better than you could hope!
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IvantheAggie
Sep 14 @ 10:25 PM EDT
@JaimeDonally
@globalmaker
great having you tonight!!
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A6 also, student groups may need to collaborate.plan for that. google classroom? docs? padlet?
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TXEDMod
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Sep 14 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A6 also, student groups may need to collaborate.plan for that. google classroom? docs? padlet?
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pwagnerlcisd
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Sep 14 @ 10:28 PM EDT
Thanks to those of you who joined us tonight. It was great chatting with you. We hope to see you again.
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KelleyJAndrews
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Sep 14 @ 10:29 PM EDT
thanks for a great chat
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!