#4thchat is a hashtag for teachers or anyone to talk about educational issues relating to 4th grade. Using #4thchat will create a network of 4th grade teachers or teachers working with 9-10 year olds across the world. We welcome anyone who 1. teaches 4th grade 2 .Works with 4th grade students and or 4th grade teachers 3. Likes 4th grade teachers (Groupies are encouraged).
Hello #4thchat! Elisa, grade 5 T in Calgary. Don’t know how long I can stay, but looking forward to the convo. Hope everyone’s week got off to a good start.
Today I had to met w/ my high group & explain why I didn’t like their posters & how they could have been better & becus they are high group 1 in particular S tried to justify why they hadn’t done any work in 3 wks & let’s just say I didn’t like the way she talked to me #4thchat
A1: Data anaysis is taking the time to understand information. It's helpful to students because they can identify their strong and weak points and improve in any aspect of their lives #4thchat
#4thchat A1 Data analysis is making informed decisions with the incomplete (but often large amount of) information you have: Why Statistics Is Worth More Than Calc - Business Insider https://t.co/LjpjhtCPRI
A1: I think data analysis is making sense of information around us. Students can better understand material if they can organize it to learn/study it. #4thchat
I like the part about "taking the time to understand". Sometimes is takes more time than others to process the information we're looking at. Sometimes, we try to rush the process. #4thchat
A1 Data Analysis takes a look @ data you have collected in order 2 reach conclusions based on what you see. It’s imp 4 Ss 2 understand how their T takes body of evidence of their learning & translates that into mark on report card or makes decisions 4 next teaching. #4thchat
Sometimes it seems that the “high group” thinks they can coast on their laurels and do minimal work, especially if, god forbid, they find the work is challenging in any way. A lot of fixed mindsets in this group. #4thchat
In reply to
@mrsreedsclass14, @JennRegruth, @ncarrollDLC
I just find it weird because these students asked for these projects but didn’t actually do the work. Plus they were like well we got it done in 1 day.. ugh no you didn’t you plagiarized the whole poster. #4thchat
A2: Math connects so easily to students collecting data, but S need to collect data in all subjects so they understand their goals, and progress #4thchat
#4thchat A2 Since there is so much data and information in the world, estimating and prioritizing information is important, these are great for Ss to start to deal with not "knowing" an exact answer but still calculating. https://t.co/5B58xlXcyI
A2: Students collect and interpret data during our persuasive writing unit.
Science is also a big one. We are using a new NGSS @HMHCo science curriculum this year. Students are collecting data weekly during their hands on activities. #4thchat
Data Analysis is looking at data over a period of time and guiding goals. It’s important to teach S’s this because they need to see growth especially there own and be able to make a plan #4thchat
A2: I found that I mostly formal data collection was done in math & science. With projects like @mrbalcom MarchBookMadness, we see data in all areas of our curriculum. #4thchat
#4thchat A4 So much of math in 4th is number sense--there is some data analysis and some in science, but it's not a huge part of the year. Usually have Ss create data in sci, analyze data in math class.
#4thchat A1 This is a really good book that gets you to see that we have piles and piles of data, yet making good decisions from that in truly informed ways isn't always clear or easy.
As a learning support teacher my students plot and graph their progress after completing their progress monitoring. I feel that they benefit from being a part of the process! #4thchat@jennyktechin
A3: Mostly used bar and line graphs...occasional line graphs. We were always big weather data collectors! Afterall, we live in MA where you BLINK and the weather changes...lol #4thchat
I think back in the day we focused on having students 'create' the graphs, but now we have tech doing that so we can spend more time evaluating. #4thchat
A4: I think I need to have them spend more time analyzing the data at this point. Also to create it to see how doing a little better on each thing could improve overall grade. #4thchat
#4thchat I think one issue teaching data to Ss is that we don't present the scientific method really how science works (it's messier and a whole lot more fun): https://t.co/wEZokRpDI2
I would start with a Google Form, push out to students. Have them input information and find the sheet where data is collected. Then they can make graphs from that data. Lots of YouTube videos to show this! #4thchat
Maybe starting with data that's out there already. We used to get Time For Kids and they always had great, interesting & relevant data to discuss. #4thchat
#4thchat I think one of the challenges in teaching data literacy is when it's taught as a skill, Ss think it's a calculation or "reading a graph" in real life we have overlapping/conflicting data--we have to use to triangulate/prioritize/ignore to make decisions.
Google Sheets is such a great place to input data. I love that a chart will appear with the click of a button. Leaves more time to analyze! Maybe not for students, but check out Google Data Studio - AMAZING! #4thchat
#4thchat Example of annual data analysis that is imperfect but important each year: Selecting Viruses for the Seasonal Influenza Vaccine | CDC https://t.co/6vS5szr9rH
A7: At the beginning of the year we made Fav charts by putting stickers on each poster board. Ie Fav Sport- place your sticker in swim, volleyball, etc. and then we make bar charts! #4thchat
A8: We share it or explain it to someone else! I do this with Math classwork- go home and explain this to your parents or https://t.co/f33WxQGfB4 deepens the understanding and lets us be proud to show off our work! #4thchat
#4thchat Bigger picture, but we live in overwhelming times with so much information. Daniel Kahneman — Why We Contradict Ourselves and Confound Each Other - The On Being Project https://t.co/jR9ADGMKx3
#4thchat A8 I need to do this more, but it is important to connect how people in the world really do use data to do things, build things, cure things, learn things, sell things.
A8: If using real world data, students can take some action. IE: gathering data around # of H20 bottles in the class/school....as part of a bigger unit? #4thchat
This #4thchat group really knows how to bring it. Thanks for a great discussion and sharing of resources on Data Collection and Analysis! It has been enlightening. Thanks to @ncarrollDLC for some great questions. Go forth and have a great week everyone. Stay safe!
