#ILedchat Archive
#ILedchat is a great way for Illinois educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday April 10, 2017
10:00 PM EDT
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:00 PM EDT
The
@Cubs
game is on the background, I've got chips & salsa within reach, let's do this!
#ILedchat
begins now!
participatechat
Apr 10 @ 10:00 PM EDT
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:00 PM EDT
The
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team (
@kathyamelton
,
@jmaraldo
,
@misterabrams
,
@robert_schuetz
,
@memayer21
,
@lmstump
) is glad you're here!
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:01 PM EDT
Welcome, please introduce yourself. What's your role in EDU? Where are you tweeting from tonight?
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Brian 8th gr sci Teach & live in Aurora IL
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MathEdJax
Apr 10 @ 10:02 PM EDT
High School Math Teacher sitting on my couch binge-ing on Netflix
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Greetings Everyone! Bob, T/C
@PalatineHS
Tweeting from chilly Libertyville, IL this evening.
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ZachHess21
Apr 10 @ 10:03 PM EDT
I am a student studying Biology and Secondary Education and I'm tweeting from Rolla, MO.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Welcome Brian, thanks for breaking the seal on tonight's chat!
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In reply to @BKd204Sci
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Welcome Jackie - good to see you back with us again.
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In reply to @MathEdJax
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Welcome Zach, you've got some terrific educators to connect with in the PLN!
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In reply to @ZachHess21
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Please share relevant resources with
#ILedchat
tonight. We'll link them on our G+ community -
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:04 PM EDT
We use the Q&A format & we will start with our first question momentarily. Be sure to use our favorite hashtag!
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:04 PM EDT
We will follow the Q1, Q2, Q3 format with A1, A2, A3 in response! Get ready for our first question!
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:05 PM EDT
We have a 30 minute chat scheduled for tonight. Let's roll!
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STEMedTeacher
Apr 10 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Alex Applied Tech teacher drowning in Lake Zurich after all the rain
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MPC_Principals
Apr 10 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Larry Hyde from MPC. Loved the Cubs Opening Day ceremony!
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1: How prevalent is high stakes (standardized) testing in your school / classroom?
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Welcome Larry! Great meeting you at the recent MPC workshop!
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In reply to @MPC_Principals
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Pretty wet out there tonight - lots of water. Thanks for being here Alex!
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In reply to @STEMedTeacher
STEMedTeacher
Apr 10 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1 we just had SAT. Tomorrow our Freshman Ss take a Practice SAT... Suffice it to say we do it enough.
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ZachHess21
Apr 10 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1: At my college, the only standardized test I've had to take so far was a math placement entrance exam.
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1 My 8th gr's take PSAT for HS placement & we are currently in our PARCC testing window
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MathEdJax
Apr 10 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1: I think more emphasis was put on testing in the past but with all of the uncertainty it doesn't get as much emphasis
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:08 PM EDT
Yep, and our freshmen take the state science test on Thursday. All of our testing has me thinking...
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In reply to @STEMedTeacher
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:09 PM EDT
Did you take a lot of tests in HS in the spirit of college prep?
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In reply to @ZachHess21
B_KOL
Apr 10 @ 10:10 PM EDT
A1) I feel like a big chunk of the year is testing. :(
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massignmenthelp
Apr 10 @ 10:10 PM EDT
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#MexEdChat
#resiliencechat
15 Websites to Increase Productivity
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Apr 10 @ 10:10 PM EDT
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#MexEdChat
#resiliencechat
A Beginner’s Guide on How to Make Mind Maps
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STEMedTeacher
Apr 10 @ 10:10 PM EDT
I want to hit like to that comment, but it's not something that I do like...
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In reply to @robert_schuetz
MPC_Principals
Apr 10 @ 10:10 PM EDT
All IL Grade3-12 schools are required to PAARC. That's pretty prevelant!
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:10 PM EDT
Totally agree! Move of a measurement of current trends & data collection Less of a life/death view like in the past
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In reply to @MathEdJax
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:10 PM EDT
As a parent of school-aged children, I am glad to hear about the testing de-emphasis you mention.
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In reply to @MathEdJax
B_KOL
Apr 10 @ 10:11 PM EDT
I'd love to be in your school then.
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In reply to @MathEdJax
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:12 PM EDT
OK - so there is apparent agreement that high stakes testing is prominent in our schools, but maybe things are changing
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macnbeans
Apr 10 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A1: PSAT, SAT, ASVAB, TSI/TBI, State Testing, Grade Level Testing - too prevalent
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Q1: How prevalent is high stakes (standardized) testing in your school / classroom?
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A1a How could I forget the state sci assessment this Thursday Still waiting on last years results Some tests are a formality
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:12 PM EDT
Q2 coming up soon!
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:13 PM EDT
Q2: Are there any advantages to standardized testing? If so, what are they?
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:14 PM EDT
That is a lot of missed instruction/collaboration Do you feel todays Ss take all assessments seriously?
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In reply to @macnbeans
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2 What can testing offer to instructors? Feedback perhaps.
https://t.co/TYJDabDaS1
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MPC_Principals
Apr 10 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2 Advantage: provides goalpost to compare to if that is important or meaningful to you.
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 STs can be a snapshot that can drive data in some growth areas, but I don't feel tests are matching how Ts teach or Ss learn
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STEMedTeacher
Apr 10 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 Crickets.....
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ZachHess21
Apr 10 @ 10:16 PM EDT
One advantage of a standardized test is that the students are unlikely to think they got a harder test than someone else.
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MathEdJax
Apr 10 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 some teachers have taken more notice of the standards than in the past. Some students ask about how they stack up
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Can't disagree with you at all. Research tells us testing is a poor predictor of college / career readiness.
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In reply to @macnbeans
BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Perhaps but tests I see are still content driven & lack the process inst. in how Ss are currently taught
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In reply to @robert_schuetz
watertankmath
Apr 10 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Looks like another great night for edu chats!
#ksedchat
#msmathchat
#aledchat
#iledchat
#nvedchat
#colchat
#nyedchat
https://t.co/CqsNb10X6J
STEMedTeacher
Apr 10 @ 10:17 PM EDT
A2 Real answer.. They can be feedback for Ts but it's difficult to know where improvement is needed in its current state
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B_KOL
Apr 10 @ 10:18 PM EDT
As a special ed. teacher, I don't feel like the (over) testing of my Ss has any advantages. It's torture.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:18 PM EDT
I can see this. My concern is about the learning targets. Are they skill-based? If so, what is the value of artificial assessment?
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In reply to @MathEdJax
MPC_Principals
Apr 10 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2 In widget production it offers a form of quality control.
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:19 PM EDT
We need to focus assessments on what is best for Ss future Obviously current test structure is out of line w/Ss way of thinking
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In reply to @macnbeans
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Sad, particularly when considering your curricular discipline. Can't we do better?!?
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In reply to @B_KOL
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:20 PM EDT
Q3 momentarily
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Q3: What are the popular arguments against high stakes testing?
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Use of local formative/summative assessments is a launch point but a lot of thought needs to go into the "Why" of testing
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In reply to @macnbeans
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A3 As a proponent of authentic forms of learning & assessment, I see loads of time & emotional energy wasted on tests.
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B_KOL
Apr 10 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Cubs game has me distracted. Nice pick off.
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ZachHess21
Apr 10 @ 10:23 PM EDT
A3: One of the most common arguments I hear against high stakes testing is that they cause test anxiety for some students.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:24 PM EDT
Wilson! If we had a big crowd tonight, I would be struggling.
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In reply to @B_KOL
MPC_Principals
Apr 10 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 Poor Test quality, time devoted to testing, emphasis on product not process
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 Do high stakes tests really measure a Ss process of thinking?
#NGSS
is process based yet how do we assess? No equity!
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STEMedTeacher
Apr 10 @ 10:24 PM EDT
We can, but will bureaucracy allow us to do our job from state and national. We are professionals and need guidelines not tests
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In reply to @robert_schuetz, @B_KOL
macnbeans
Apr 10 @ 10:25 PM EDT
- For a LOT of students
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In reply to @ZachHess21
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3.1 As a school technologist, the manpower & preparation time devoted to test preparation sessions is substantial. Hidden costs.
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macnbeans
Apr 10 @ 10:26 PM EDT
RT
@macnbeans
: A3: Any of them (my own opinion) 😃
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Q4 momentarily
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B_KOL
Apr 10 @ 10:27 PM EDT
The only good thing that came out of PARCC testing this year is it gave me time to introduce BreakoutEDU to my class. 🤔
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Q4: How can we help students maintain positivity during testing season?
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:28 PM EDT
There you go - that's a nice silver lining!
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In reply to @B_KOL
macnbeans
Apr 10 @ 10:28 PM EDT
#ILedchat
- Teachers at my school taken out of classes for 2 weeks prior to bubble and put stickers on tests.
In reply to @robert_schuetz
B_KOL
Apr 10 @ 10:29 PM EDT
Very true. Helped us stay engaged & collaborating after a morning of testing.
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In reply to @robert_schuetz
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A4 Brain-based strategies to help Ss deal with test stress;
https://t.co/b61AYxUlCJ
via
@edutopia
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macnbeans
Apr 10 @ 10:30 PM EDT
#ILedchat
- I do a mental & physical wellbeing project with Ss right before testing. 😃
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Q4: How can we help students maintain positivity during testing season?
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MPC_Principals
Apr 10 @ 10:30 PM EDT
Teachers' attitudes & enthusiasm inspires Ss to do their best! Parental support means even more!
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A4 I try to show my 8th gr's staying + & giving best effort can only help you in the future Some get it, some don't
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B_KOL
Apr 10 @ 10:30 PM EDT
A4) My students had the chance to practice their coping strategies when dealing with strong emotions. Had to bring in FUN.
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ZachHess21
Apr 10 @ 10:31 PM EDT
A4: Teachers can reward students with breaks from studying to help prevent burnout.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:32 PM EDT
A4.1 Offers the opportunity to practice
#mindfulness
#SEL
programs. As Larry said, stay positive as instructors leaders
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Last prompt coming up...
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B_KOL
Apr 10 @ 10:32 PM EDT
Yeah! My schedule was off for a full week...introduced some new tools to play with. Let the kids explore w/o focusing on grades.
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In reply to @BKd204Sci
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Q5: (use all week if you like) If you were asked to change one thing about testing in school, what would be your recommendation?
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:33 PM EDT
#ecet2
had a great chat last night on
#SEL
That is a very important component to keep in mind w/testing
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In reply to @robert_schuetz
macnbeans
Apr 10 @ 10:35 PM EDT
A5: Make it go away/change significantly
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Q5: (use all week if you like) If you were asked to change one thing about testing in school, what would be your recommendation?
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:35 PM EDT
RT Q5: If you were asked to change one thing about testing in school, what would be your recommendation?
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B_KOL
Apr 10 @ 10:35 PM EDT
Get rid of it. If we can't get the results to help with instruction or st. learning, what's the point?
#iledchat
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:33 PM EDT
Q5: (use all week if you like) If you were asked to change one thing about testing in school, what would be your recommendation?
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BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A5 Testing should be meaningful to all stakeholders Format of tests is offset from how Ts teach Ss don't see meaning in results
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MPC_Principals
Apr 10 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A5 Great essential question. Less tests but greater quality assessments that provide deep feedback to improve learning/instruction
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:36 PM EDT
A5 As learning in school becomes more personalized, I believe many of the artificial aspects of assessment will wane.
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ZachHess21
Apr 10 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A5: I would either eliminate or at least lengthen the time constraint that is on most standardized tests, it's just extra stress.
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:37 PM EDT
A small group tonight, but thank you for contributing to
#ILedchat
. Momentarily, an archive of tonight's chat will be shared via
@Storify
.
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:37 PM EDT
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
THANK YOU to all of you who gave up part of your Monday night to contribute to teaching & learning!
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Apr 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
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macnbeans
Apr 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
- Texas, but grew up in St. Charles, Mo
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In reply to @BKd204Sci
BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
A5 Test should be standards based or they really don't measure how Ss are being taught
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Please consider joining us at 9 pm CT on Monday 4/17/17 when we continue our discussions about teaching & learning.
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Apr 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
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MarkJWestpfahl
Apr 10 @ 10:38 PM EDT
Don't tie state & federal funding to it, as it's simply *a* snapshot in time, & it has numerous limiting factors.
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A5
@EducationMN
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:35 PM EDT
RT Q5: If you were asked to change one thing about testing in school, what would be your recommendation?
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:39 PM EDT
Thanks again everyone - make it a great week! Until next time...
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:39 PM EDT
Thank you Mark - terrific point.
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In reply to @MarkJWestpfahl, @EducationMN
BKd204Sci
Apr 10 @ 10:41 PM EDT
Funding is the only reason I'm giving sci test on Thursday $$$ should not be a rationale for testing Ss growth is only reason!
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In reply to @MarkJWestpfahl, @EducationMN
robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@plearnchat
You've been quoted in our story "The Pros & Cons of High Stakes Testing in Schools"
https://t.co/dnV29uufOm
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@participatechat
You've been quoted in our story "The Pros & Cons of High Stakes Testing in Schools"
https://t.co/dnV29uufOm
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@MatthewWeld
@polonerd
You've been quoted in our story "The Pros & Cons of High Stakes Testing in Schools"
https://t.co/dnV29uufOm
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@TomRucker
@DJFTLL
You've been quoted in our story "The Pros & Cons of High Stakes Testing in Schools"
https://t.co/dnV29uufOm
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@joemullikin86
You've been quoted in our story "The Pros & Cons of High Stakes Testing in Schools"
https://t.co/dnV29uufOm
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robert_schuetz
Apr 10 @ 10:47 PM EDT
@BKd204Sci
@MathEdJax
You've been quoted in our story "The Pros & Cons of High Stakes Testing in Schools"
https://t.co/dnV29uufOm
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revuluri
Apr 10 @ 10:59 PM EDT
Join
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