#HipHopEd Archive

#HipHopEd Chat is a weekly cyber cypher (chat) where stakeholders within Hip-Hop and Education come together to discuss issues that impact the youth and adults within our local, national and global communities. #HipHopEd Chat is a virtual form of professional development for Educators, workshop for Parents and other Adults and a brainstorming session of Hip-Hop practitioners. Our #HipHopEd chats are every Tuesday from 9-10 EST. on Twitter.

Tuesday January 9, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome 2 #HipHopEd tonight we are discussing "the survivor the monkey the hoodie the crown"
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Tonight we want to critically analyze the @hm ad and the artistic reactions #HipHopEd
  • RhymesEdu Jan 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Call for Proposals: Free Your Mind: A HIP HOP Education STEAMposium brings Hip Hop as critical pedagogy and STEAM. Theme: Recognizing and Resisting Oppression. Gr 2-6 & 7-12 Deadline Jan 18th https://t.co/KrM3oCeuSC #HipHopEd #STEAM
  • mathsmarti Jan 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Always great to be with the #HipHopEd fam on Tuesdays
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
    @TheRealHipHopEd #HipHopEd greetings family, I am so curious to hear the chatter and chop it up with tonight’s topic.
  • shanko365 Jan 9 @ 9:03 PM EST
    About to jump in this #hiphoped 9-10
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
    #HipHopEd Fam, What are you wearing tonight? Who produced and marketed your clothes? Who owns the production means?
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
    What were some initial thoughts upon seeing the ad yesterday? #hiphoped
  • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Special #HipHopEd session tonight -- starting now!
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:05 PM EST
    This is a great question #HipHopEd
    • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:04 PM EST
      #HipHopEd Fam, What are you wearing tonight? Who produced and marketed your clothes? Who owns the production means?
  • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
    + #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:06 PM EST
    The ad bothered me, but also consider being amongst ppl who feel that same way about you, but never express it. #hiphoped
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:07 PM EST
    We as a ppl disrespect each other daily, so that ad, though disgraceful, should have us to check ourselves as well. #hiphoped
  • JonBalcerak Jan 9 @ 9:07 PM EST
    #hiphoped What's up, family! Glad to see this topic happening tonight. Speaks to the work with cultural- and media-literacy we still have to do!
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Good critical questions #hiphoped
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
    It’s important to be very aware of educators who are “surprised” by this add, or “never saw it coming”. We cannot support selective wokeness #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
    RT @HRHGloriaSantos: #HipHopEd Fam, What are you wearing tonight? Who produced and marketed your clothes? Who owns the production means?
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
    #HipHopEd Re:Boycott Sharing this video by Subcomandante Marcos. How can one be anticapitalist and still drink Coca-Cola? https://t.co/zk1HO2TxyB
  • gjladson Jan 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
    #HipHopEd Where does advertising 4 H&M emanate? From Sweden at company's headquarters? #ContextMightMatter
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jan 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Here are some thoughts for our leader @chrisemdin that really worked tonight’s chat #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Exactly, all races are disrespected when you think about production at the warehouse level, the pay is horrible usually. #hiphoped
  • myteachermagic Jan 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Just gonna sit this here... #parentaccountability #HipHopEd
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Yes, yes! The narrative of ownership is crucial to explore #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • mathsmarti Jan 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Something we need to think about & investigate more often. Where we spend our money matters #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Excellent point #HipHopEd
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Happy to be back with the #hiphoped fam after a busy and stressful semester dealing with my Stats class. I'm happy to say after all the headaches and homework I passed with a 98. #NeverAgainTho
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
    The image, the ad, is a visceral example microagression as it interests whiteness at ideological and corporate level. #hiphoped
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
    #HipHopEd Fam: Do you know of black- or brown- owned clothes company? Do you own or work for one? Share your recommendations!
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
    The ad is a great example of why context matters. I call the kids i love "monkey" all the time, and its a term of endearment. But on that shirt, on that child, next to the white savior kid, with historical context in a public discourse, the meaning totally changes. #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Congratulations Sis, I knew you would rock it #HipHopEd
    In reply to @MissJennifer215
  • DocChrisWright Jan 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Ad reminded me of "colorblind" educators or those that claim to not see color. If you saw color, maybe you would have seen the racism in the ad. #hiphoped
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I worked for a wonderful company at the store level who at the warehouse level had known sweatshops, what do you do? Quit or bark? #hiphoped
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I began my day with the H&M ad on my projector and just started to ask my 7th graders questions. If within 5 minutes they ALL saw how intrinsically wrong the ad was, how did H&M not? #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
    No you sit there, and work, knowing that whatever company you work for, people are being treated bad in some way. #hiphoped
  • BWileyPOB Jan 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Hello there, Ben from NY #hiphoped
  • gjladson Jan 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #HipHopEd When we are not at the table we end up on the menu! #DecisionMakers
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Every time i think about going back to school, i see a tweet like yours. Lol. Congrats though! #hiphoped
    In reply to @MissJennifer215
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
    The H&M ad type of aggression is perpetrated everyday in our schools. Our students are subjected to it from classmates, teachers, admin... It's unrelenting #hiphoped
  • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Cc #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Tonight I have on made PJ's - Target and Nike. #hiphoped
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
    But, the answer to that begs deeper questions... #HipHopEd
    • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
      I began my day with the H&M ad on my projector and just started to ask my 7th graders questions. If within 5 minutes they ALL saw how intrinsically wrong the ad was, how did H&M not? #HipHopEd
  • amilcook - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Great question! Had a powerful dialogue with students about this today and that was a takeaway...most of brands aren't our brands #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I think the bigger issue here is that the little boy's spirit from all this, he does not know until we tell him, really. #hiphoped
  • shanko365 Jan 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
    #HipHopEd shouldn't call kids monkeys
    In reply to @norarahimian
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
    This H&M issue MUST be brought into the classroom and used to discuss race, stereotypes, micro aggressions #HipHopEd #teachablemoment
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I saw a tweet, I never say this to my kid, but have heard it, "Sit your Monkey a** down". Sad, but true. #hiphoped
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Yup. This and other adds are simply pushing a historically problematic narrative. One that has been obvious or blatant to many, but continuously ignored/rejected by others. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @shanko365
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
    There are so many levels of psychic, civic, and spiritual transgression at work here. It continues a narrative of white male patriarchy, slave to master, animal to human. #hiphoped
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Praying he has some critically aware parents, teachers, and community around him to walk him through #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
    It's not acceptable, but it does occur. #hiphoped
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
    My uncle's stepkids were called "monita" and "monito" when they were little, not in reference to their race, but their hyperactiveness. But I'm not letting any white person call them monkeys. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @norarahimian
  • myteachermagic Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I also hear white people call their kids monkey so they will try to act like they don’t see what’s wrong. Yes, the white boy in his survival shirt added a while ‘nother level of ignorance! 😡 smh #HipHopEd
    • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
      The ad is a great example of why context matters. I call the kids i love "monkey" all the time, and its a term of endearment. But on that shirt, on that child, next to the white savior kid, with historical context in a public discourse, the meaning totally changes. #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
    If you are a global entity then there must be sensitivities on a global landscape. Let's not forget what the "hoodie" has become in America for youth based on the perceptions of many adults #hiphoped
  • amilcook - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
    In our economy there are so many opportunities for us to teach our youth entrepreneurship and we must lead the way by supporting it as well! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
    We never really know what went on behind the scenes @callmemrmorris is it a publicity stunt or what the real reason is. #hiphoped
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #HipHopEd
  • HipHop_High Jan 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #HipHopEd should we hold artists that sell their likeness to brands to the same moral standards even though their content says otherwise ?
  • shanko365 Jan 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #HipHopEd dope if the kids see it why do adults dance around it
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
    We also have company's that tweet things that are terrible like Newsweek and the MLK issue. Like c'mon really. #hiphoped
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
    My guy, I wish I had recorded my session with my youngins' today! Some 12 year olds have as much critical consciousness as grad students. The good thing is...convo don't stop at one lesson #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • HipHopArch Jan 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
    @TheDVEBrand is the Detroit vs Everybody brand that I rock during most of my lectures. #hiphoped
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @TheDVEBrand
  • mbdando Jan 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
    This whole thing is a case study in “dysconscious racism”. #hiphoped
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Exactly my dude #HipHopEd
    In reply to @ParkerLovePeace
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
    That would require a socially conscience administration and staff, board as well. @chrisemdin #hiphoped
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I believe they did see it and feel that they can bank on free advertising from our outrage #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Wasn't your kid producing and selling hoodies, btw? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I hope that my intuition regarding why some adults, like actual professionals at advertising and packaging messages to masses would allow that to pass through is wrong #HipHopEd
    In reply to @shanko365
  • MeganOhlssen Jan 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Get involved in this #HipHopEd
  • FunkyFrijoles Jan 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
    @MaldicionBrand @Chicano_Soul #HipHopEd
    • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
      #HipHopEd Fam: Do you know of black- or brown- owned clothes company? Do you own or work for one? Share your recommendations!
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
    @numero7sb #HipHopEd time to represent
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Seems nearsighted if they are trying to bank of black outrage. It's 2018, companies like this gotta go. They gotta die y'all #HipHopEd
    In reply to @ND_Hood
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
    This H&M ad really is nothing brand new. It’s really another log on the fire of raced advertising, especially in the European market. Let us not forget the adidas slave sneaker. #hiphoped
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:16 PM EST
    "I call my kid monkey" is the equivalent of "I have a Black friend" in this case. Its not about the word but about the story H&M is telling with those ads. #hiphoped https://t.co/SO8QJhYv7g
    • myteachermagic Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
      I also hear white people call their kids monkey so they will try to act like they don’t see what’s wrong. Yes, the white boy in his survival shirt added a while ‘nother level of ignorance! 😡 smh #HipHopEd
      • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
        The ad is a great example of why context matters. I call the kids i love "monkey" all the time, and its a term of endearment. But on that shirt, on that child, next to the white savior kid, with historical context in a public discourse, the meaning totally changes. #hiphoped
  • mbdando Jan 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Was there nobody along the way who saw this & said “no”? Exactly. There was nobody there to say “no”. This is what I mean when I say #RepresentationMatters #hiphoped
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Never ever ever. #hiphoped
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Same here my momma called me monkey for all the crazy stuff I would do but THIS is something very different #HipHopEd
    In reply to @norarahimian
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jan 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Here are some thoughts shared by another one of our leaders @tdj6899 #HipHopEd
  • themorganrpt Jan 9 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Agreed however that requires enough of us to be in positions of influence to get the topic into classrooms. Too often the focus is on test prep instead of current events and social issues like this one. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • mathsmarti Jan 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Society is not colorblind, educators must stop ignoring color. If we ignore color in the classroom, we risk continuing the cycle of adults who are unable/unwilling to address race #HipHopEd
    In reply to @DocChrisWright
  • numero7sb Jan 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Hey Dr. Santos! We do produce and sell hoodies among other things. https://t.co/b6zVDs6j22 #HipHopEd
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
    The dismissing & demonizing of Blackness & coolness by those who lack it is as dangerous as any other form of racism #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Yes! And this. FACTS #HipHopEd
    • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:13 PM EST
      If you are a global entity then there must be sensitivities on a global landscape. Let's not forget what the "hoodie" has become in America for youth based on the perceptions of many adults #hiphoped
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
    “Fight the power” like @MrChuckD once told us. How prophetic are his words right now... #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris, @MrChuckD
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
    I think we'll be doing our students an injustice if we only frame this as a conversation about consumerism... confront it head on with students and talk about the highly feared R word... RACISM #hiphoped
  • HipHop_High Jan 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
    should we hold artists that sell their likeness to brands to the same moral standards even though their content says otherwise ?#HipHopEd
  • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
    I love @GwanbyCharon, https://t.co/strFPieN58, https://t.co/9TnOsfRw9q, nakimuli, https://t.co/fQHJxsy8xo #HipHopEd
    • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:10 PM EST
      #HipHopEd Fam: Do you know of black- or brown- owned clothes company? Do you own or work for one? Share your recommendations!
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
    There's acceptance of Black culture, just not from us, but the embracing is here, just passively. #hiphoped
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
    The only way i can make sense of it is that (1) there were no PoC in the room when those decisions were made and (2) the normalization of racism didn't make this seem weird to anyone else. #hiphoped https://t.co/gAqeskKIq1
    • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:15 PM EST
      I hope that my intuition regarding why some adults, like actual professionals at advertising and packaging messages to masses would allow that to pass through is wrong #HipHopEd
      In reply to @shanko365
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jan 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
    The word “Monkey” sparked an outrage but as educators and critical thinkers, we should take issue with the word “Coolest” and examine what attributes are defined as being “cool” #HipHopEd
  • ayyolevi_ Jan 9 @ 9:19 PM EST
    My third graders immediately knew that the H&M ad was wrong. The question that we continue to unpack is, why do we continue to let things like this happen? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Like others accept it when it's not on us...lips, bodily features, hair styles. And it's not everywhere, we cannot think all will. #hiphoped
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Here is the sad part, what if there WAS POC at the table. Even if they were a POC at the table, does it mean they were African or African American. Skinfolk ain’t always kinfolk. #hiphoped
    In reply to @mbdando
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
    As we dissect these issues there should be no such thing as thinking too far or making too much out of it! #HipHopEd
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
    I hear you. But we can’t wait for “enough power” to have convos of this gravity with young people. We just have to find ways to do it anyways #HipHopEd
    In reply to @themorganrpt, @chrisemdin
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
    That H&M ad is nothing more than anti-blackness with a topping of colonization. #hiphoped
  • gjladson Jan 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
    #hiphoped juxtaposing coolness & intellect is also a problem in the H&M ad. #SmartequalsCool
  • mbdando Jan 9 @ 9:20 PM EST
    It is known. #hiphoped
    In reply to @Knight3k
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
    It's sickening that Black bodies are always misused/mistreated even in an @HM marketing/advertising #HipHopEd
  • DearSommer Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Shout out to one of the dopest to ever do it @ToniBlackman #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
    RT @KingAdjapong: It's sickening that Black bodies are always misused/mistreated even in an @HM marketing/advertising #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KingAdjapong, @hm
  • myteachermagic Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
    You don’t think the mom/dad/guardian should have put a stop to this...or make a public statement? It’s so important to be present. If your child is a model, you better be on set and calling a few shots. Especially, after all these celebs are reporting abuse. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @shesowriteous
  • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Happening now! Come join us for another edition of the #hiphoped chat
  • numero7sb Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
    We as a group are trying to promote a way of thinking we’re only success is acceptable and anything is attainable. #HipHopEd #NoLimit247
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
    I don't think this should be just about race, @KingAdjapong it's the child's innocent spirit that we hope will not be broken. #hiphoped
    In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • drlovelace Jan 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Exactly!!!! And how we continue to perpetuate that in what we do with our students vs. the attributes the one who is a survival expert. #hiphoped
    In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
    I miss being in my school studio right now. Group counseling sessions on H&M with the final product of a mixtape of full of diss tracks would be in the works. Where my school counselors at? #HipHopEd
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
    The "Where were the parents?" response to the #boycottHandM fiasco is looking to absolve the company of its responsibility. Don't loose focus #HipHopEd #Nothelpful
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Being called outside of your name by little kids will really break your spirit, better to help the child than TRY to fix an adult. #hiphoped
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:22 PM EST
    I hear so much hate via social media over @Lavarbigballer but he is wearing his own stuff... #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @Lavarbigballer
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I'm seeing a few posts from those who use "monkey" as a term of endearment which is really interesting me because I've never used it as such. I've always been taught "monkey" has a negative, racial connotation. I'd love to hear more about this #hiphoped
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Especially those of us that write or are creators. We must value affirming language and imagery, but then actually show it speak it celebrate it #HipHopEd
  • FlowStoryATX Jan 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Especially those of us that write or are creators. We must value affirming language and imagery, but then actually show it speak it celebrate it #HipHopEd
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Yessir! BTW, Throw #HipHopEd in the tweet bro!
    In reply to @ParkerLovePeace, @chrisemdin
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
    To truly dissect the Ad and it's racist theories we have to break down the white boy and his sweatshirt as well. What is he an expert in surviving a jungle/community where he tames monkeys (blacks)? #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Do you ship internationally? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @numero7sb
  • dianitahardy Jan 9 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I’ve missed you! #HipHopEd ✊🏼
    In reply to @MissJennifer215
  • HipHop_High Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Ironically, those who lack it are the most likely to be the gatekeepers within these companies who push it. Another example of implicit control of our culture. We see it in music all day #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • ParkerLovePeace Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    While we need to open up these conversations in our classrooms we also need to take action in countering these false narratives through our teaching practices and by visually displaying our kings and queens in the midst of their greatness. #hiphoped
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I'm not a monkey, so the ad was like whatever to me. I'd love to work to fix the core issue, the boardroom though. #hiphoped
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    #HipHopEd
    • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
      The issue of voices at the table is very important. How do we ensure we are a part of how narratives about us are created?
  • DrHicksHarper Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    What too often gets ignored about us is that we are most of the time both cool and intelligent. Too many educators feel it impossible to be both when it comes to Black youth. I've seen it too many time. #HipHopEd
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    #hiphoped
    • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
      We can all make a commitments in our domains of influence to affirm positive identities and contest not only stereotypical images but dehumanizing narratives.
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    With that being said, I would love to hear the thoughts of little mans parents concerning this ordeal #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HipHop_High
  • shanko365 Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    In that case we gotta define "jungle" #HipHopEd
    In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    This ad was discussed in my Pop Culture class today. It is not strictly just this ad which clearly is alarming. Let’s face facts, we are in the midst of a culture war in America at least. #hiphoped
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I have black children, obviously, they're not monkeys either. #hiphoped
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I agree. I think the 3rd option I'm hearing of "reverse marketing" or whatever seems shortsighted and absurd. This will not help their business #HipHopEd
    In reply to @norarahimian
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I will admit that being dark skinned I wouldn't be able to process "monkey" being used as a term of endearment. There is colorism that has to be addressed within our community from this ad as well #HipHopEd
  • DJ_View Jan 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
    “who would approve this?” but there are some black people, just like educators that believe nothing is wrong and that’s a problem #HipHopEd
  • themorganrpt Jan 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Except I didn't say "enough power" I said positions of influence. That can br a school teacher, dean, director, after school program coordinator, behavior tech, literally anyone in a school who a demonstrated track record of positively impacting kids. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @Ianplevy, @chrisemdin
  • mathsmarti Jan 9 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Too often this question is used in education to absolve educators of responsibility. Educators must be willing to reflect & ask how they can better connect with students rather than simply deflecting responsibility. #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:26 PM EST
    But we seem to not realize that does he not have management or parents that approved this, that were like, oh ok. #hiphoped
  • JonBalcerak Jan 9 @ 9:26 PM EST
    What's happening in this corporate/retail sphere also happens in education: microaggressions like this are propagated and there aren't enough/any representational voices to speak up and say, "Hey, this is a bad idea." #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Speak #HipHopEd
    • DrHicksHarper Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
      What too often gets ignored about us is that we are most of the time both cool and intelligent. Too many educators feel it impossible to be both when it comes to Black youth. I've seen it too many time. #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:26 PM EST
    This. What consequences would the child model face had he refused to do that photo shoot? Who was/is around to protect and guide him? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever, @KingAdjapong
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:26 PM EST
    We really don't know what happened, they pulled it because of the commotion, no commotion, money is fine. #hiphoped
  • DearSommer Jan 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Shout out to one of the dopest to ever do it @ToniBlackman. Can’t wait to bring @hiphophacksedu to Mount Vernon! #HipHopEd #HipHopHacks
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Yes. This is the tension that often exists... they don't have to be mutually exclusive. #HipHopEd https://t.co/uI7OjRfcUh
    • DrHicksHarper Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM EST
      What too often gets ignored about us is that we are most of the time both cool and intelligent. Too many educators feel it impossible to be both when it comes to Black youth. I've seen it too many time. #HipHopEd
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Oh, i hadn't even seen that one. #hiphoped https://t.co/hbdF5oSV5z
    • TastyKeish Jan 9 @ 9:25 PM EST
      And both of those next to the Asian girl in a tiger shirt.... Alil sus as well.
      In reply to @norarahimian
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
    So now, a shirt the boy MAY have been proud to wear, he sees a monkey, he thinks oh, that's me. #hiphoped
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
    The child's support network was not powerful enough to stop the photo shoot from happening. Why? That's what we should be asking. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
    In our post Obama era, sensitivities to matters of race and the politics of representation are no longer “trendy” or fashionable through a hegemonic lens. The era of critical thinking has come to a dead stop. Unless. #hiphoped
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Or maybe he doesn't. We'll never know, we're stuck in 1800's. #hiphoped
  • themorganrpt Jan 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Except I didn't "enough power." I said positions of influence and that can be anyone in a school from a dean, teacher, director, after school program coordinator, behavior tech, literally anyone who has demonstrated they can positively impact kids and reach them. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @Ianplevy, @chrisemdin
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Some racist somewhere is smirking, we go 'em again, they still think they're monkeys. #hiphoped
  • DJ_View Jan 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
    The ad was just another way to convey the majoritarian narrative that Black people, including kids are animalistic #HipHopEd
  • dianitahardy Jan 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Some denial about this in my school. It’s a necessary & hard convo. #HipHopEd
    • mathsmarti Jan 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Society is not colorblind, educators must stop ignoring color. If we ignore color in the classroom, we risk continuing the cycle of adults who are unable/unwilling to address race #HipHopEd
      In reply to @DocChrisWright
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
    I appreciate the artistic reactions because it is another example of how powerful visual communication is but the portrayal of "King" can be empty once we begin to address what are the qualifications and areas we declare someone a "King" of #HipHopEd
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
    If that's their marketing strategy, they need to fire their PR firm. #hiphoped
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • shanko365 Jan 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
    #hiphoped I would love to see how this kid feels about this all when he turns 18 and his h&m check clears
  • dianitahardy Jan 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Truth #HipHopEd
    • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:27 PM EST
      In our post Obama era, sensitivities to matters of race and the politics of representation are no longer “trendy” or fashionable through a hegemonic lens. The era of critical thinking has come to a dead stop. Unless. #hiphoped
  • DJ_View Jan 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
    And this is why #TamirRice was murdered. Becauss he was viewed as a nonhuman, as flesh and disposable. #HipHopEd #MessagingMatters
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
    RT @norarahimian: @callmemrmorris If that's their marketing strategy, they need to fire their PR firm. #hiphoped [See we really don't know
    In reply to @norarahimian, @callmemrmorris
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
    In Mexican Spanish, we would use "mono" for monkey, but that is also the word we use for doll and for action figures. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @MissJennifer215
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Yessir! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @themorganrpt, @chrisemdin
  • shanko365 Jan 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
    There has been a lot of reverse marketing going on this year #hiphoped
    In reply to @norarahimian, @callmemrmorris
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I also found it interesting that when I brought this image up on the projector, intro'd it & asked "what is wrong, right..or simply what is this?"..The 1st response was from the ONLY white kid in my class who directly went in on it's racist undertones w/o hesitating #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Would we have been as upset if the monkey shirt were on another kid, laced with banana in hand? #hiphoped
  • shilpasharma__ Jan 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
    And then they had the nerve to make a public statement on Instagram saying ‘routines weren’t followed’ and it was ‘accidental in nature’ 🤔 #HipHopEd
    • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:11 PM EST
      I began my day with the H&M ad on my projector and just started to ask my 7th graders questions. If within 5 minutes they ALL saw how intrinsically wrong the ad was, how did H&M not? #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Let's not forget that the word "Jungle" became part of the Hip-Hop in 1982 with "The Message." It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under! #HipHopEd
  • themorganrpt Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Exactly. It minimizes the host of people who greenlit this idea from the company to the ad execs to the commercial director. This idea was consigned by numerous ppl long before kid was cast. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • DJ_View Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
    And this is why #TamirRice was murdered. Because he was viewed as nonhuman, as flesh and disposable. #HipHopEd #MessagingMatters
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Great point the spirit of Stepin Fetchit is upon this ad campaign #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HipHop_High
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
    I remember when I worked at a particular place. Students brought us a fruit basket. Me and another brother were eating the bananas and apples. Our boss a white woman said we need more bananas, they eat them up like monkeys. #hiphoped
  • ParkerLovePeace Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Super facts! Another way to take action in addition to these necessary conversations we must engage our students in is to show students in action. I argue that displaying students working is better than displaying student work. #hiphoped
    In reply to @Ianplevy, @amilcook, @themorganrpt, @chrisemdin
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
    I appreciate one of the artist's whose renditions of the ad was featured in various media outlets today @ItsHippyPotter He is also one of my former students #HipHopEd
  • HipHop_High Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
    #HipHopEd The most concerning fact of the matter is that, yes they took the add down but they are still selling the shirt.
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Now take a look at those real numbers, sales and stock numbers for companies like H&M, what are those numbers doing? #hiphoped
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I was in a meeting today where they were talking about some high-level hiring. I asked if they'd diversify their all-white leadership team & was told by the CEO "I don't see race or gender." I bet you their next hire will be white. #hiphoped https://t.co/bwRZyqYpHF
    • mathsmarti Jan 9 @ 9:18 PM EST
      Society is not colorblind, educators must stop ignoring color. If we ignore color in the classroom, we risk continuing the cycle of adults who are unable/unwilling to address race #HipHopEd
      In reply to @DocChrisWright
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Sales after the holidays...how's your local store doing? #hiphoped
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
    I'd love to see white christian anti-evolutionists/creationists protesting with "my child is no monkey". #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
    You are so on point with this. A dark skinned black girl shared her opinions on this today in class and I could feel the pain #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Hmmm, it has multiple meanings. Very interesting #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • ayyolevi_ Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
    It reminds me of the children of white America watching Logan Paul. The scary thing is that those kids, and kids that consume clothing like this, aren't told to be racist and are learning important lessons on what it means to be white. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @OkemaForever, @KingAdjapong
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Now look on the corporate level, in the boardroom, the discussions that matter. #hiphoped
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Along with the Dove ads and all the others. #HipHopEd https://t.co/snjUsjvwYw
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM EST
    That’s the problem, she “didn’t see” #HipHopEd
    In reply to @drlovelace, @HipHop_High
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Yes because it is real #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Yeah @HRHGloriaSantos cause teachers that KNEW me, know better, my kids aren't monkeys, whatever. *side eye* #hiphoped
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
    When I complained about it, because of institutional practice of racism, my complaint fell on deaf ears. I share the story because, it’s not just the perpetrator of the aggression that needs to be addressed but also the structures as well. #hiphoped
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Go see some of the IG post regarding this issue and scroll through the comments. There are a lot of racist people out here still. These are facts. This is scary #HipHopEd
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Very interesting. I think monster, more than goober, has that similar racial connotation as monkey. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mentortexts
  • drlovelace Jan 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
    And that is our community problem...parents that "don't see"..... #hiphoped
    In reply to @ND_Hood, @HipHop_High
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
    And think about how this translates to other contexts: Tamir was a threat, Mike was dangerous, Trayvon was suspect, Freddie was scary... #hiphoped https://t.co/659LmvXwJL
    • DJ_View Jan 9 @ 9:28 PM EST
      The ad was just another way to convey the majoritarian narrative that Black people, including kids are animalistic #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
    RIGHT, children are taught racism, otherwise, a monkey is a camel is a elephant is a bear. whatever. #hiphoped
    In reply to @ayyolevi_, @HRHGloriaSantos, @KingAdjapong
  • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
    The parent, allegedly a kenyan living in Sweden, already posted on social media several times. I'm not posting her response on my TL, but ppl cando a quick search on lipstick alley or Google. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @myteachermagic, @shesowriteous
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Shoot, there are more than a few in this chat tonight... #NotWorthTheTagThough #HipHopEd
    • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:33 PM EST
      Go see some of the IG post regarding this issue and scroll through the comments. There are a lot of racist people out here still. These are facts. This is scary #HipHopEd
  • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
    ALSO: There's some chance these kids were wearing something else completely, and that the graphic designers superimposed the designs on the digital images. Unlikely, but possible. #hiphoped
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • rebelmusicteach Jan 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
    It's amazing to me that some people who preach on the power of Random Acts of Kindness don't believe in microaggressions. #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
    And anybody that KNOWS me, knows better, I'm not a monkey and neither are my babies, period. #hiphoped
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
    How many dollars turn you colorblind? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @ND_Hood, @drlovelace, @HipHop_High
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jan 9 @ 9:35 PM EST
    If you think about what we marvel at when observing monkeys it is often their physical abilities. We call it science fiction when their intelligence is featured. Sadly, is this too far from the hierarchy of what is celebrated among black/brown boys? #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Nah. Nah...I'm not in the advertising business but, ain't no way a company like H&M would let this clear on the last look of a graphic designer. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mnemognose, @chrisemdin
  • gjladson Jan 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
    #hiphoped So critical media literacy is an essential part of our work in the classroom.
  • FlowStoryATX Jan 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A great book that touches on elements of these arguments auth great examples from the past https://t.co/CRIzBGJLvO #HipHopEd
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A great book that touches on elements of these arguments auth great examples from the past https://t.co/997tOd9eg1 #HipHopEd
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
    What we have to do, which is unfortunate is equip students in k-12 media literacy skills and for Black boys, strategies for coping and combating microagressions. #hiphoped
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:36 PM EST
    The 'black' race is all shades. We have got to move past this and build. #hiphoped
  • rockynu Jan 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
    "Has anyone had problems with the computer accounts?" "Yes, I don't have one." "Okay, you can send mail to one of the tutors ..." #HipHopEd https://t.co/raqtZlnFZi
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
    We can't just keep moving past stuff..we first built by situating ourselves within the fire and then rise from it #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
    While racism and white supremacy exists in almost every corner of this planet, people need to do research into what that looks like in *insert city/country and context here* and how these things shows up in various Communities that may or may not differ from your own #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
    My wife and I was having this same conversation and we placed a huge level of accountability on the boy's parent(s) because he is a minor, they were probably present and definitely had to approve #HipHopEd
    In reply to @drlovelace, @ND_Hood, @HipHop_High
  • Nicoleedits Jan 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
    And the apology stated the ad pulled in the United States only. Reminds me of a Scandinavian friend who recently told me the first Black film she saw brought to the theaters in Finland was Mandigo Man. And not too many more Black films for a long time after its run! #HipHopEd
    • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:34 PM EST
      The parent, allegedly a kenyan living in Sweden, already posted on social media several times. I'm not posting her response on my TL, but ppl cando a quick search on lipstick alley or Google. #HipHopEd
      In reply to @myteachermagic, @shesowriteous
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
    What also struck me during this H&M ad fallout is how similar it is to McDonalds advertising of today and the Colt 45 ads of yesterday. All this advertising targeting the "urban community" that is nothing more than anti-blackness on full, public display #hiphoped
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
    And barking about a shirt. #hiphoped is that changing the boardroom at company's any? Are they at our HBCU fairs running us down?
    • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
      We can't just keep moving past stuff..we first built by situating ourselves within the fire and then rise from it #HipHopEd
      In reply to @OkemaForever
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
    #HipHopEd resource
  • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Yeah, I'm sure you're right. As a parent, trying to get past the "what were the parents thinking?" question, despite the fact that it's not a productive question. #hiphoped
    In reply to @callmemrmorris, @chrisemdin
  • DrHicksHarper Jan 9 @ 9:38 PM EST
    The marketing folks at H&M probably used The Message as a part of brainstorming the ad outcomes...trying hard to be COOL ... thinking they are "trendingly" integrating HH to attract young people... #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
    All of this! #HipHopEd
    • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
      While racism and white supremacy exists in almost every corner of this planet, people need to do research into what that looks like in *insert city/country and context here* and how these things shows up in various Communities that may or may not differ from your own #HipHopEd
  • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
    H&M has a US marketing team and Ultimately, they are responsible for how their brand shows up globally and how they portray models of color in their marketing campaigns. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
    "If I ruled the world" but we don't so we need to study it #HipHopEd
    • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
      While racism and white supremacy exists in almost every corner of this planet, people need to do research into what that looks like in *insert city/country and context here* and how these things shows up in various Communities that may or may not differ from your own #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
    And those of mixed race, what do you think they're doing right now, just looking. #thatisall #hiphoped
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Society is obsessed with the notion of White survivors & Black monkeys. H&M simply tapped into this obsession. NFL, Urban Ed, Trump/Obama #SameGame #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:40 PM EST
    What you mean? Galvanizing community over issues, big or small, is how change occurs. Been like that since time #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • AbbyRombalski Jan 9 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Yes. Also makes me think about especially us yt ppl who name diversity as "cool" aka it was a diverse school, really cool. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • drlovelace Jan 9 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I often think societal expectations have been set up to not consider anything BUT physical abilities... I now consider... when we look in STEM, in what areas have we "allowed" some of us to be represented - and yet have that "science fiction" attitude in other areas. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:40 PM EST
    So they knew what they were doing, basically that’s what you saying, right? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @NatalieCrue
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:40 PM EST
    If you're right then they would be added to a long list of entities from all sectors that need some real Hip-Hop Development #HipHopDev #HipHopEd
    In reply to @DrHicksHarper
  • JonBalcerak Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
    In my district we are discussing adding an AA-Lit elective to our curriculum. The H&M ad, the Dove ad, and others like them need to be evaluated as texts right alongside Ellison, Morrison, and Baldwin. #hiphoped
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Have we even addressed the use of the hoodie in this ad. In my opinion this is the capitalization of tragedy. When I saw this ad, I thought I’d #Trayvon #hiphoped
  • drlovelace Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
    That's a question of privilege..... #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @ND_Hood, @HipHop_High
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Ignoring H&M and not shopping there would be better. Not giving them press for their next line. Duh. #hiphoped
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Sorry to get a little real here, but if we didn't bark about a shirt, many would still feel no ways about walking up on young blacks in hoodies and gunning them down #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Are they trending on Twitter yet? #hiphoped
  • meralishood Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
    "The classroom had always been the site of my most indelible failures and losses" @TaNehisiCoats #WeWereEightYearsInPower #HipHopEd
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
    My bad I forgot to #HipHopEd that post, sorry @tdj6899 lol
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • MissJennifer215 Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
    That's really awesome; I'm glad you could join us tonight. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mentortexts
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I agree! Children's' innocent sprits are broken every single day in schools when they are not allowed to be their true selves. When they are 'trained' to be the model student #HipHopEd
    • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
      I don't think this should be just about race, @KingAdjapong it's the child's innocent spirit that we hope will not be broken. #hiphoped
      In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • DrHicksHarper Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Thanks for bringing this back to the conversation tonite. Media Literacy should be an integral part of almost everything we teach & engage youth about. Media today, on all levels, warrants this because of its pervasiveness. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @gjladson
  • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
    OOH Thanks for pointing to lipstick alley! I'm still quite the n00b in the #HipHopEd space, learning more every day.
    In reply to @NatalieCrue, @myteachermagic, @shesowriteous
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
    People that really feel that way will not stop because of a MONKEY shirt. #Hiphoped matter of fact, they're smirking now, bc they've caused uproar.
    • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:41 PM EST
      Sorry to get a little real here, but if we didn't bark about a shirt, many would still feel no ways about walking up on young blacks in hoodies and gunning them down #HipHopEd
      In reply to @OkemaForever
  • HipHop_High Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
    #HipHopEd I seen this on our timeline and wanted some feedback.
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Dang, if that was those folks marketing strategy..I know a hundred kids I've taught over the last several years that could replace them tomorrow #HipHopEd
    In reply to @DrHicksHarper, @tdj6899
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
    It is definitely worth dissecting and we also have to look at how we as a community informally influence culture on a world wide stage so we have to me critical of making sure that we don’t present norms that actually are kindles for the fire of racism & hate #HipHopEd
    In reply to @drlovelace
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
    #HipHopEd visual
    • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
      “We” have been the core for sales in their ad campaigns for a long time.
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
    How did your parents get to you when you were little, take your resources. Sink that in. #hiphoped
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Which is why we need alternatives to H&M. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • meralishood Jan 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
    We live in a country where a genius like #TaNehisiCoates felt this way about school: "The classroom had always been the site of my most indelible failures and losses" #WeWereEightYearsInPower #HipHopEd None of this is new - we've got work to do!
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
    They pulled the shirts here in the US... not sure about abroad. #HipHopEd https://t.co/Pgg7POZMnb
    • HipHop_High Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
      #HipHopEd The most concerning fact of the matter is that, yes they took the add down but they are still selling the shirt.
  • FlowStoryATX Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
    They pulled the shirts here in the US... not sure about abroad. #HipHopEd https://t.co/5bY8fAtUSL
    • HipHop_High Jan 9 @ 9:31 PM EST
      #HipHopEd The most concerning fact of the matter is that, yes they took the add down but they are still selling the shirt.
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
    RT @HRHGloriaSantos: @OkemaForever Which is why we need alternatives to H&M. #HipHopEd [It's not just H&M, trust me]
    In reply to @HRHGloriaSantos, @OkemaForever
  • drlovelace Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
    BOOM! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
    To me, as a parent raising a young Black son, got mad and then anxious because of the association mainsteam American folks have made with Black boys, hoodies, Thugs, deviancy and even hiphop. #hiphoped
  • norarahimian Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Its all part of the dehumanization process: media plays a huge role in the school-to-prison-and-police-brutality pipeline. #hiphoped
    In reply to @DJ_View
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
    And something about an 80% off sale... #HipHopEd
    In reply to @HipHop_High
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
    It's about the boy, not the shirt, duh. #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Here is the visual by one of my former students #HipHopEd
    • ItsHippyPotter Jan 9 @ 9:43 PM EST
      I was taken aback initially when I seen that this was an actually ad being used, representation amongst children of color is so important ", so I chose to redesign it in a way that would bring new narrative to the ad
      In reply to @tdj6899
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
    I don't care about H&M, it's the baby. The boardroom. Hello. #hiphoped
  • drlovelace Jan 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
    And there it is....definitely worth dissecting! I do worry about that. #HipHopEd
    • TheRealHipHopEd Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
      It is definitely worth dissecting and we also have to look at how we as a community informally influence culture on a world wide stage so we have to me critical of making sure that we don’t present norms that actually are kindles for the fire of racism & hate #HipHopEd
      In reply to @drlovelace
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Facts. #HipHopEd
    • KingAdjapong - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
      I agree! Children's' innocent sprits are broken every single day in schools when they are not allowed to be their true selves. When they are 'trained' to be the model student #HipHopEd
      • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM EST
        I don't think this should be just about race, @KingAdjapong it's the child's innocent spirit that we hope will not be broken. #hiphoped
        In reply to @KingAdjapong
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Trust that them jeans will be folded and those shirts hung and next week, yal will be on something else. #hiphoped
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
    "The Jungle" = spaces where there are low resources, poor education & white flight. The folks who create it, escape it, then claim to save those who remain in it #HipHopEd #BoycottHM
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Nothing new under the sun #HipHopEd
  • mathsmarti Jan 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Right. We need to address this attitude in all arenas. We have to do a better job preparing teachers & reaching out to veteran teachers, having conversations about how to address race in the classroom - maybe begin the conversation with the HM ad #HipHopEd
    In reply to @norarahimian
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
    I totally understand and the visuals that have been created are awesome. It is on us as a community to write and rewrite the narrative behind the new images created so that they tell a story just like there is a story behind the original ad #HipHopEd
    In reply to @ItsHippyPotter
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
    They changed the graphic on the shirt, and then pulled the shirt. In one day. You think they're smirking? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • SignifierUK Jan 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Different histories. Different contexts. Different systems. #hiphoped https://t.co/2FAQEGeQu9
    • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:37 PM EST
      While racism and white supremacy exists in almost every corner of this planet, people need to do research into what that looks like in *insert city/country and context here* and how these things shows up in various Communities that may or may not differ from your own #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:46 PM EST
    It's not on their Mx store either. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @FlowStoryATX
  • DJ_View Jan 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
    You would never see this as an ad though..... this is about white superiority v. Black inferiority #HipHopEd
  • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I think #Trayvon didn’t receive justice and was never given humanity in death, every month we have “The Talk” this ad was pure brutal insensitivity #hiphoped
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I'm a Marketing major @callmemorris and also w/ a little HR in me so, I'm not thinking about what you're looking at, #hiphoped
  • themorganrpt Jan 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Speaking truth to power #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
    And thank you for my first period lesson plan tomorrow. Social justice requires context, understanding, and then action! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
    The most beautiful thing about this @hm fiasco is the way that our people have turned a mess into magic with the king images #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jan 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
    It’s dope when your chat becomes a trending topic and you didn’t pay for it #HipHopEd
  • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:47 PM EST
    This isn't just "barking about a shirt" and yes in fact, we reached into H&M's board room today with this conversation. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
    And you know what, H&M will gain a little press from it all. We need to move past them, unless they support brown's green. #hiphoped
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
    And this is the battle... it has been normalized as negative. #HipHopEd https://t.co/0l0P9eTs32
    • Knight3k Jan 9 @ 9:44 PM EST
      To me, as a parent raising a young Black son, got mad and then anxious because of the association mainsteam American folks have made with Black boys, hoodies, Thugs, deviancy and even hiphop. #hiphoped
  • DMVCOASTIE Jan 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Cultural + ethnic diversity is not only for the inclusiveness of ideas but it provides insight + sensitivity to the stereotypical labels: reducing unintentional insults #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Salute to @SignifierUK for joining tonight's chat from the UK #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
    What about the baby at school, both kids really, all the kids on their site, have we looked at that? #hiphoped
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
    The core, the bigger picture here. #hiphoped
  • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
    So many people talking abt this childs parent without taking into account how the parent experiences, views and addresses racism and white supremacy within their unique immigrant experience and within the context of xyz experiences. #HipHopEd
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
    That’s hip hop :)...and that we have a space like this to focus how to help young people heal and grow from it #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin, @hm
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Thanks and @ItsHippyPotter has just released a children's book so follow him and learn about it for your students as well #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris, @ItsHippyPotter
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Done. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899, @ItsHippyPotter
  • DrHicksHarper Jan 9 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Think they're slick type of racism...The importance of going beyond the surface when examining phenomena. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @raptjr
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Its beautiful how the community collectively and immediately called @hm out and changed the narrative #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
    It's 2018. New year, same thinking. #hiphoped
  • DJ_View Jan 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Don't just boycott H&M, stop shopping there period..... #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Where are the child's parents from? How is race read in their home culture? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @NatalieCrue
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:50 PM EST
    That hour flew tonight #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Mic Drop #HipHopEd
    • DMVCOASTIE Jan 9 @ 9:48 PM EST
      Cultural + ethnic diversity is not only for the inclusiveness of ideas but it provides insight + sensitivity to the stereotypical labels: reducing unintentional insults #hiphoped
  • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Trickle down outrage doesn't remove ads or provoke apologies (empty or not). We can go back to not buying their child-labor produced clothing after their hands are sufficiently slapped. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:52 PM EST
    So now we have to write the back stories that will give a life to the images of our boys as kings to really combat the narrative that exists of them being monkeys. A visual has to be the beginning but not the ending #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin, @hm
  • dwcurry12 Jan 9 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Does the use of the word monkey mean anything different if H&M were a black owned company? Just curious. #hiphoped
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Heres the link to @hm board of directors where there are no people of color. Im going to assume that their marketing team is similar https://t.co/p63B9wBsLd #HipHopEd
  • mbdando Jan 9 @ 9:53 PM EST
    This is @hm debacle is yet another example of “spirit murder” experienced by so many kids #HipHopEd
  • HipHop_High Jan 9 @ 9:53 PM EST
    The real question is why won't we support each other with the same vigor that we do those that don't have our best interests? #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:53 PM EST
    It's one thing to be portrayed by someone who doesn't look like you in a negative way. The danger is when you begin to see yourself the way that you are being portrayed. We have to begin a revolution of imagery and perceptions #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:54 PM EST
    For me "No" #HipHopEd
    In reply to @dwcurry12
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Can we afford to, though? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @DJ_View
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    RT @mbdando: This is @hm debacle is yet another example of “spirit murder” experienced by so many kids #HipHopEd [Yes honey, yes]
    In reply to @mbdando, @hm
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    I feel you. That’s why I’d like to hear from the parents and know their perspective on all THIS. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @NatalieCrue
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Yeah, im hearing the marketing world is not very diverse... glad youre in education #hiphoped
    • Learn21Tech Jan 9 @ 9:54 PM EST
      most of retail is similar.. (worked for retail before switching to K12)
      In reply to @KingAdjapong, @hm
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    RT @ND_Hood: @NatalieCrue I feel you. That’s why I’d like to hear from the parents and know their perspective on all THIS. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @ND_Hood, @NatalieCrue
  • callmemrmorris Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Nope. Not if the only black model in their newest catalogue was wearing the shirt that said monkey on it. Lots of blacks with racist logic..lots #HipHopEd
    In reply to @dwcurry12
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    The parents may be quietly waiting for a check, or protecting their child, anything, we really don't know. #hiphoped
  • DJ_View Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A counternarrative at its finest. #CRT #HipHopEd
  • FlowStoryATX Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    We can also say that the jungle is filled with bountiful resources, undiscovered beauty, and a multitude of vibrant life forms... We can always reframe and claim "us." #HipHopEd https://t.co/pCRXbpS17D
    • chrisemdin - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
      "The Jungle" = spaces where there are low resources, poor education & white flight. The folks who create it, escape it, then claim to save those who remain in it #HipHopEd #BoycottHM
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    We can also say that the jungle is filled with bountiful resources, undiscovered beauty, and a multitude of vibrant life forms... We can always reframe and claim "us." #HipHopEd https://t.co/7L7ofy35Jz
    • chrisemdin - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:45 PM EST
      "The Jungle" = spaces where there are low resources, poor education & white flight. The folks who create it, escape it, then claim to save those who remain in it #HipHopEd #BoycottHM
  • DMVCOASTIE Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Teach youth to differentiate variations of cultural offenses: Racism, Ignorance , Crude jokes. KKK, H&M, Don Imus; each require a different approach and response. #hiphoped
  • NatalieCrue Jan 9 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Tbh (and as a warning), lipstick alley is a black hole filled with internet trash lol, but they did post quite a number screenshots. #HipHopEd
    • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:42 PM EST
      OOH Thanks for pointing to lipstick alley! I'm still quite the n00b in the #HipHopEd space, learning more every day.
      In reply to @NatalieCrue, @myteachermagic, @shesowriteous
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Thoughts on @HM & edu. Green hoodie pedagogies and orange hoodie teacher identities #HipHopEd https://t.co/ZrPyYqvYfl
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:56 PM EST
    We really can make them feel us by not buying from them. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jan 9 @ 9:56 PM EST
    In response to @hm go out and support a local/national clothier that presents wears that portray you in your God given and not man defined excellence #HipHopEd Now that’s making “Money Moves”
  • dianitahardy Jan 9 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Have our students design their own hoodie too. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin, @hm
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
    @Diddy offers the young boy a $1mil modeling deal https://t.co/U7bocnBBrg #HipHopEd
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
    So they did not react to the hoodie the way an American family would, because their experience of race is different. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @NatalieCrue
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
    RT @ND_Hood: @OkemaForever We really can make them feel us by not buying from them. #HipHopEd [There you go]
    In reply to @ND_Hood, @OkemaForever
  • raptjr Jan 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Important. #HipHopEd https://t.co/EEzIpE69yA
    • DMVCOASTIE Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM EST
      Teach youth to differentiate variations of cultural offenses: Racism, Ignorance , Crude jokes. KKK, H&M, Don Imus; each require a different approach and response. #hiphoped
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Some people make a living/life out of playing devils advocate. Not my style, but you'd be surprised. #hiphoped
  • Ianplevy - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Oh that’s crazy dope, didn’t see that! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KingAdjapong, @Diddy
  • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I doubt most of us are as uptight as Greer Childs, but yeah next week we'll be right back at it. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • KingAdjapong - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Teach the youth to be critical and to make critically conscious decisions. If students across the nation were on this chat, many will not support @hm #Hiphoped
  • Learn21Tech Jan 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I love the idea of having Ss in our Cultural Literacy classes re-design the hoodie @HFAsMrsY @educateyinz @poescorner - how can we make this happen asap? #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
    When the unity of our "reactions" becomes the unity of our "prevention" and "education" we will be truly united and revolutionary #HipHopEd
  • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Ah thanks :) #HipHopEd
    In reply to @NatalieCrue
  • HRHGloriaSantos Jan 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
    And it is not the responsibility of the child model or his family to monitor the appropriateness of the ad nor to anticipate its reception in the US. That's H&M's job. #HipHopEd
  • OkemaForever Jan 9 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Yup honey. *files nails* #hiphoped
    • mnemognose Jan 9 @ 9:58 PM EST
      I doubt most of us are as uptight as Greer Childs, but yeah next week we'll be right back at it. #HipHopEd
      In reply to @OkemaForever
  • ND_Hood Jan 9 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Can you explain a little more please? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @OkemaForever
  • FlyingTruths Jan 9 @ 9:59 PM EST
    #HipHopEd: conversation everyone needs to pay attention to right now.
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:59 PM EST
    At some point "not knowing" doesn't minimize the truth that lies behind words that have been used historically and presently to hurt #HipHopEd
    • dwcurry12 Jan 9 @ 9:57 PM EST
      What about for the young people that H&M are actually targeting? I mean, there are too many youth who have no sense of such words and what the historical context is. They would wear it and it’d mean nothing
      In reply to @tdj6899