#TeachWriting Archive
#TeachWriting chat is where educators talk about writing instruction. Every other Tuesday @ 9pm ET/8pm CT.
Tuesday September 5, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
TeachWriting2
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Sep 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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Sep 5 @ 9:00 PM EDT
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TeachWriting2
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Sep 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Some of us started school today, some a month ago - please introduce yourself, what you teach and where, and when you started
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
My goal is to get into twitter jail. It's been a while . . .
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Paula from Maine-Literacy Coach K-6 in four schools. We started last week.
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Ben, teach 6th grade science and social studies in the Chicago area, and I started two weeks ago.
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome, Paula!
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AncrumSara
Sep 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Sara Ancrum. Charleston, SC. 3weeks in the new school year
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome, Sara!
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franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
My tweets for the next hour are for the
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chat. Fran from SE Iowa Literacy Coach
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello from Fredericton, NB. School started today for us. Looking forward to chatting about writing tonight.
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
We will follow a traditional Q and A format - questions will being with Q1, Q2, etc - please begin your answer with A1, A2,...
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
CPS started today, as they usually do, right after Labor Day. Anyone else start today?
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skeeTX
Sep 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Rob from Dallas. Was 8th grade T turned admin at pk-8 private school
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ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Ericka Bush, Dunlap Valley MS in IL, 8th English, August 16th
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome, Rob! Good to see you back!
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In reply to @skeeTX
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome!
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skeeTX
Sep 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Started 8/15 so we are starting to find our stride
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome!
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In reply to @ShelfieTalk
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Welcome, Fran! Long time, no see!
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
When we're finished, tonight's chat will be archived on storify here -
https://t.co/fwRn46rlHd
- where all of them are
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TeachWriting2
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Sep 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
#TeachWriting
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skeeTX
Sep 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hope you're well and enjoyed the summer!
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In reply to @bkuhl2you
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:04 PM EDT
I'm doing great so far. A little hectic with new grad level and curriculum. Congrats on the new position!
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In reply to @skeeTX
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
BTW, Lisa also just made the leap to admin - she's in meetings tonight and won't be here.
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In reply to @skeeTX
franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Yes, old rule for school year, SM ended at 8. Still negotiating this year!
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In reply to @bkuhl2you
skeeTX
Sep 5 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Thanks! Getting used to the change.
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In reply to @bkuhl2you
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Our first question will be arriving shortly!
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skeeTX
Sep 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
I know, we've touched base a few times. Changes all around!
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In reply to @bkuhl2you
mjackson4th
Sep 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
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Hello! My name is Michelle, I'm in north TX, we started school August 14th!
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@Mr_Nathan_Smith
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Welcome, Michelle!
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 What are your writing goals for your students this year? How often? How much? What?
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 I work in a lot of classrooms biggest goal is -WRITE everyday w some choice resting w the writer.
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 - I'd like to have them writing SOMETHING every day. Also doing written conversations, and more (longer) choice writing.
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KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Kelly f ok Houston, TX checking in!
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@KellyTumy
So glad you made it, Kelly! Welcome! Hope you're finding your way back to normal . . .
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KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Kelly from Houston, TX checking in. Have missed you all!
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 A goal is for Ss to develop a growth mindset around writing-we grow w each piece, each piece can grow!
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franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Write every day. Write across the day. Some choice every day.
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AncrumSara
Sep 5 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: everyday, from quick writes to journals to writing prompts. Using visuals, quotes, current events
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ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: I want every student to not feel overwhelmed at the thought of writing! Also want students to openly accept feedback!
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ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 I don't have my own Ss, but one goal is to work with Ts to develop some inquiry-based genre studies.
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 - I'm reading JOY WRITE by Ralph Fletcher - about making writing fun - working on "greenbelt writing" -
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skeeTX
Sep 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: I'd love to see Ss writing across curriculum daily: blogging/journaling/sketchnoting/reflecting. Start a habit
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DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 More writing. Period. Every day. Me, too. More Ss choice and T flexibility w writing instruction, too.
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 - My big goal is to get more kids to feel successful at writing. Now that I'm 6th grade, I want to get them started right.
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Welcome, Jen! Great to see you here!
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In reply to @DocJLB
TSUtorres8
Sep 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Sam Torres, Bronte, TX 7th and 8th grade ELAR. We started back on August 23.
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In reply to @ebushDVMS8
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 Teaching
#sketchnoting
so Ss incorp. more visual images into their writing. Expand their idea of what it means to write!
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Sounds like fun! Are Ss asked to write something in the genre once the study is completed?
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In reply to @ShelfieTalk
KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: My goal is that kids see writing as real opportunities for communication, not just an assignment.
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a2matthew
Sep 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Hi all, Matt from Ann Arbor. Teach HS and just started today! I strive to have students write 30-60 min daily!
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AncrumSara
Sep 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: 1 goal is to get students published. Need to find Ss friendly
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Great goal!!
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In reply to @KellyTumy
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:11 PM EDT
That's something that I want to play with a bit this year. Drawing for the un-drawers, I think?
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In reply to @LitCoachLady
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Our 2nd question is coming soon!
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:12 PM EDT
That's a big goal in most HS that I'm familiar with - good luck!
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In reply to @a2matthew
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q2 What are the biggest reasons that students struggle to write effectively in school?
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Yes! If you can make a circle a box a triangle and a line you can Sketchnote.
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In reply to @bkuhl2you
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2 - This is a big question for me. I want more people "along for the ride," and it's often things we can fix. Like time.
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2 FEAR-of doing it 'wrong', of putting themselves out there to be judged, of having to do it over, of not being good enough
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TSUtorres8
Sep 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Share ideas when you come across some please. Love this idea.
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In reply to @AncrumSara
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2 - Okay, maybe not "fix." Maybe "alleviate" is a better word. Giving them time, and choice, and a chance to have fun.
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skeeTX
Sep 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: b/c it's a have to and many write to only achieve a grade. W/out motivation, tough ask. Need to help Ss gain confidence
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KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Writing at school needs more truth, more application to what matters to them. We need to help create these
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franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Ss still playing "Guess what the teacher wants me to write" game. Different rules in EVERY classroom.
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q2 What are the biggest reasons that students struggle to write effectively in school?
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TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: I think Ss struggle when they do not have an authentic audience. Knowing your words have reach is very empowering!
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q2 What are the biggest reasons that students struggle to write effectively in school?
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2 - Teaching a lot of ELL's who are shy/embarrassed about their struggles makes success and low-stakes a big deal for me.
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AncrumSara
Sep 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: lack of mentor opportunities. Many Ts push it to the side.
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TSUtorres8
Sep 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: I would love if my class had a pen pals communication for writing this year. Please share ideas to make this happen.
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mjackson4th
Sep 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1-Making writing in math flow more, reflect, etc.
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@Mr_Nathan_Smith
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2 Ss struggle when writing at school isn't authentic-whose writing is it? Writing is personal-even informational!
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TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Yep! This is why it helps when the teacher shares his/her own writing with students. Seeing the T do it too is empowering.
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2 FEAR-of doing it 'wrong', of putting themselves out there to be judged, of having to do it over, of not being good enough
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
That might be a good question for Question 8 - how we can help each other. Hold that thought!
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In reply to @TSUtorres8
franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Fear is huge... Ss and Ts
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@LitCoachLady
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2 FEAR-of doing it 'wrong', of putting themselves out there to be judged, of having to do it over, of not being good enough
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a2matthew
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Q2: I find that most students don't understand how writing works, and yet they know it matters. That can be very frustrating!
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DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 S perception of not being a good writer, T fears/discomfort w/writing process--teaching reduced to formulas & strategies
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
It's a complicated thing to teach, and teachers often get little experience with it in teacher training.
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In reply to @AncrumSara
TSUtorres8
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: from what I can tell so far (1st year teacher) is because of an authentic audience. I need to get better with this.
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missryan9
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Provide my students with a variety of fine-motor strengthening opportunities to promote endurance and confidence
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In reply to @TeachWriting2
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
This would be a perfect population to incorporate more visual writing elements! (sketch,doodle, etc) Universal language!
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In reply to @bkuhl2you
ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: Ss don't know where to start and see a daunting task in front of them. Some need LOTS of encouragement just to get started
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
The third question is approaching!
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Absolutely - that's a big reason why I'm hoping to get beyond my fear of drawing to use it more this year!
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In reply to @LitCoachLady
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Very few teacher training programs address writing/writing instruction!
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In reply to @bkuhl2you, @AncrumSara
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Absolutely - sometimes it helps to give them silly prompts - "Write a bad joke." "Write a boring story."
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q3 - What are the biggest reasons that students succeed at writing at school?
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TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Sad, but true, Fran. I can imagine the anxiety many Ss are feeling right now as they work to figure this out.
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franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Ss still playing "Guess what the teacher wants me to write" game. Different rules in EVERY classroom.
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q2 What are the biggest reasons that students struggle to write effectively in school?
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franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: Ts who are not writers use TELLing. Not effective
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A3 - I've thought about this a lot, and I think the biggest reason is that there was one teacher who made them feel successful
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skeeTX
Sep 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Mad Libs breaks the ice!
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In reply to @bkuhl2you, @ebushDVMS8
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
This is when quickwrites are a great approach. Think about how many opport. to 'get started'!
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ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: Ss don't know where to start and see a daunting task in front of them. Some need LOTS of encouragement just to get started
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A3 - Or, if it wasn't a teacher, the student sought out opportunities to write, and developed that sense of success alone.
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TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Have you considered having them write in their native language? I've been reading a lot about this lately.
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2 - Teaching a lot of ELL's who are shy/embarrassed about their struggles makes success and low-stakes a big deal for me.
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ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A3 Choice, time, opportunity to share, meaningful topics and audience, definition of text that expands beyond print.
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missryan9
Sep 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q2: lack of meaningful exposure and practice, low fine-motor skills. Students need encouragement, esp. early ed.
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ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:20 PM EDT
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ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Students are less motivated when they feel they are writing just for the T for a grade & not an audience they want to impact.
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AncrumSara
Sep 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: I write along with my Ss using doc camera, they can see when I "mess up", help me fix it. Again it takes time.
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a2matthew
Sep 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Writing is also really hard cognitive work. If there isn't a strong motivator, it is only natural that they will resist it
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 - Sometimes it's just one writing task that's really awesome. And that changes a kid. One great writing experience. . .
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a2matthew
Sep 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: Someone cares about what they are saying.
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TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Have you looked at the
https://t.co/HMDE8IGzvV
platform? This is a great way for Ss to interact with each other's writing.
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TSUtorres8
Sep 5 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: I would love if my class had a pen pals communication for writing this year. Please share ideas to make this happen.
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 Ss succeed in writing when they have sense of agency-not perfection. Less grades, more feedback fosters this.
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missryan9
Sep 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
encouragement from adults and peers at school and home, interest, choice in their writing topic and/or style
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In reply to @TeachWriting2
franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3 Jut ONE teacher who connected, assignment that connected, peers that supported,
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q3 - What are the biggest reasons that students succeed at writing at school?
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ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3 Writing is risky- it's hard to put ourselves out there so when we are writers too we can be more empathetic & responsive.
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PegGrafwallner
Sep 5 @ 9:22 PM EDT
We had this conversation today at our PLC. Our Ss are learning writing from too many "sources." Make it uniform & manageable
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Very few teacher training programs address writing/writing instruction!
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In reply to @bkuhl2you, @AncrumSara
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
YES! "Show, Don't Tell" isn't just a craft move...it's a teaching move!
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franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: Ts who are not writers use TELLing. Not effective
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MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Hey, everyone! Hopping in late here tonight!
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TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:23 PM EDT
This is one reasons more teachers should be writers themselves. It helps immensely in the writing classroom.
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:17 PM EDT
It's a complicated thing to teach, and teachers often get little experience with it in teacher training.
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In reply to @AncrumSara
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I'm not sure I want it to be "uniform" - I'd like to be able to write differently, and I want Ss to, also.
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In reply to @PegGrafwallner
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Do you have a pass? (JK!) Welcome! Better late than never!
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franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3: Does success come with sufficient volume of writing? Have written enough to really KNOW how to write?
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
The fourth question is close!
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ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: I know some disagree, but for some of my struggling writers the structure was what clicked for them!
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skeeTX
Sep 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: be heard, be creative, make an argument, tell a story, opine, or giggles! Multitude if allowed & encouraged to have a go
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Q4 - What are some ways that you provide feedback to writers in your class?
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Structure isn't bad - it's helping kids move beyond it when they need to, when it holds back their best thinking.
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In reply to @ebushDVMS8
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: 1) They write everyday 2) Expectations are high 3) T teaches the writer transferable strategies, not to make piece better
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q3 - What are the biggest reasons that students succeed at writing at school?
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TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: They get to write, write, write with lots of choice AND they have a teacher who models growth mindset in writing.
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q3 - What are the biggest reasons that students succeed at writing at school?
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franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
True!
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A4 - Most of the feedback is written on the text - either side/end comments on paper or "comments" on Google Docs.
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TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Agree. Grading writing all the time is an anti-motivator.
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 Ss succeed in writing when they have sense of agency-not perfection. Less grades, more feedback fosters this.
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ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A4 Feedback is most powerful when requested by the writer- ask in a conference: "What do you need from me?"
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A4 - I prefer oral feedback, though I've never felt comfortable recording myself for voice comments. Writing conferences rule.
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upahk
Sep 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Personally, I started succeeding in writing when my teacher started believing in me and seeing my potential
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missryan9
Sep 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Keeping records of name writing and comparing and contrasting with the student. Self-reflection, even at 4yo!
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In reply to @TeachWriting2
AncrumSara
Sep 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A4: great question! 1way is using google docs. Can provide feedback from anywhere, anytime
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ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
My favorite is one on one conferencing! This year I want to try recorded feedback using
@Screencastify
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LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4 I try to give fdbk w specifics, "I noticed__. Tell me about that__" Not just to invite change, but reflection.
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a2matthew
Sep 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Sorry for the shameless plug, but I'm doing a series on this on my blog!
https://t.co/ooUGlkTFe3
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Makes sense. I don't mean to imply that you're wrong or something - you make a great point. Can be confusing.
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In reply to @PegGrafwallner
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
#TeachWriting
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TSUtorres8
Sep 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4: so far I have been able to have 1on1 convos with each writing challenge I have given them. I get to praise challenge.
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a2matthew
Sep 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
For me, it's about targeted, formative feedback that is positive and concrete followed by a writing conference!
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bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
We encourage blogging here, so no shame involved. Thanks for sharing!
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In reply to @a2matthew
franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4: Teach students how to compliment. Peer conferences. Look for "I can do" first. Build up. Then use Ss goals for feedback.
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Q4 - What are some ways that you provide feedback to writers in your class?
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missryan9
Sep 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Fellow
#PreK
teachers...how do you provide feedback? K-12? Always looking to add strategies to my "teacher toolbox"
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TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Q4 - What are some ways that you provide feedback to writers in your class?
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ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4: I also started having Ss fill out a conference reflection form! Helped Ss reflect and gave me feedback!
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
The fifth question is almost here - we're past the halfway point!
#TeachWriting
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4: new fave way to give feedback: 1) gather a small grp 2) "what are you working on?" 3) "Okay, practice that" 4) COACH them
#TeachWriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Drat! I keep forgetting
#teachwriting
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Love this idea! Can you say more?
#TeachWriting
In reply to @ebushDVMS8
mjackson4th
Sep 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 - practice and more practice in an authentic setting
#TeachWriting
@Mr_Nathan_Smith
TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Have you read 'Feedback That Moves Writers Forward' by
@pmgmcgee
? She's an excellent resource for conferring.
#TeachWriting
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A4 Feedback is most powerful when requested by the writer- ask in a conference: "What do you need from me?"
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q5 - What are some strategies you use to manage the workload of reading/responding to student writing?
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
As we Writing Project people like to say (along with lots of process people), "Teach the writer, not the writing!"
#teachwriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#teachwriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 the simple act of writing. Pacing, environment, practice--how many S (and T and parents) really write on a regular basis for themselves?
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#teachwriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 chatting-small groups, individual confs, notes on drafts. Not a fan of Google comments; I want S to see my face as I read their work.
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A5 - Thought I'd throw this in here. Sometimes students write a lot, and when you have a lot of students, it's a burden.
#teachwriting
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
It's on my professional TBR list!
#TeachWriting
In reply to @TeachWriteEDU, @pmgmcgee
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4 Encouraging Ts to focus more on feedback than record keeping. Documenting is good but more time conferring w Ss is better.
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A5 - One strategy - if you're using journals/notebooks - is to bring home one class a week and respond in turn to each class.
#teachwriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A5 - Another one is to be strategic. Don't feel like you have to respond to everything, or read everything. Read what you can.
#teachwriting
PegGrafwallner
Sep 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
True. I c Sci Ts try to tch wrtng (from Sci lab reprt lens) vs. how Eng Ts tch wrtng (frm essay lens). Now that's cnfusing!
#teachwriting
In reply to @bkuhl2you
ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A5: I loved grading online using rubrics. Way faster than handwriting feedback!
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A5 - I think it was Kelly Gallagher who said that you want your Ss to write more than you can reasonably read. That's good.
#teachwriting
a2matthew
Sep 5 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A5: It is all about not marking every error! Less comments that go deeper are better than more that stay shallow
#teachwriting
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A5 As Ss get older have them jot the conferring notes-Ts don't have to be only one. Who are they for anyway?
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A5 - (And I think that's like the eleventh time I've brought up that idea. . . )
#teachwriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5 being purposeful w/assignments, Ss choice as to what to turn in, making myself read quickly, not taking myself so seriously
#teachwriting
upahk
Sep 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5: A place in your room where students can submit their works-in-progress anonymously for other students to read/respond
#teachwriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5 - When I was a TA in college, I averaged 30 min per essay. I only had two classes most of the time, but took 20-30 hrs.
#teachwriting
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5 Don't try to assess everything Ss write. Have them review a series of pieces & reflect on what it reveals about them as Ws.
#TeachWriting
franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5: S writing partners have conferences. Highlight "Best work" Author says why it is best work on post it. Class gallery walk.
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q5 - What are some strategies you use to manage the workload of reading/responding to student writing?
#TeachWriting
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
🙌🙌🙌
#TeachWriting
In reply to @bkuhl2you
a2matthew
Sep 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Gotta go all! Thanks for a great talk!!
#teachwriting
AssignmentHelpN
Sep 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/N8NF3byMeG
#Teachwriting
#TMchat
#eduldrcoaching
PegGrafwallner
Sep 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5 Yes! I learned this the hard way. Read, commented on EVERYTHING! Realized I needed to try something else or burn out
#teachwriting
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5 Don't try to assess everything Ss write. Have them review a series of pieces & reflect on what it reveals about them as Ws.
#TeachWriting
AncrumSara
Sep 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5: an issue I haven't resolved yet. Yes, take home journals. Google classroom organizes assignments, reply easily to
#TeachWriting
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5 W/ incr vol of writing ask Ss to choose piece they want feedback on- Not everything needs responding-patterns will emerge
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Here comes the sixth question!
#TeachWriting
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:38 PM EDT
LOVE THIS! Building writing identities and skill.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @ShelfieTalk
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Q6 - How and how often do you share your own writing and process with your students?
#TeachWriting
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5: We should put more faith in "live time" feedback. I know, pressure to grade; but when papers sit, opportunities are lost
#TeachWriting
massignmenthelp
Sep 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/FKXZPYFim7
#Teachwriting
#TMchat
#eduldrcoaching
TeachWriteEDU
Sep 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6: I will make copies and ask for their feedback or share it on the SmartBoard. Ss love to give Ts feedback!
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Q6 - How and how often do you share your own writing and process with your students?
#TeachWriting
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6 I share when it serves Ss needs-mini-lesson, modeling, or in conference to support something they are attempting.
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6 - (sneaking another NWP question in here . . . )
#teachwriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Yes! Share basket! Ss put work in the basket, Ss can read and complete PQP Feedback form. Loved this!
#teachwriting
In reply to @upahk
KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5: Never assign any more than you can grade with effective feedback. Took me about 15 years to realize that.
#Teachwriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Hashtag, Jen!
#TeachWriting
In reply to @DocJLB
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A6 We try to incorporate writing into all our workshops with teachers and share our own notebooks as often as possible.
#TeachWriting
KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: and yes, don't try to grade everything!
#Teachwriting
KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5: Never assign any more than you can grade with effective feedback. Took me about 15 years to realize that.
#Teachwriting
franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A6: Balance published, T and S mentors. Show my writing in T PD sessions EVERY time we meet. Model process pieces often.
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Q6 - How and how often do you share your own writing and process with your students?
#TeachWriting
TSUtorres8
Sep 5 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A6: interesting thought. I haven't done this at all yet, nor has it occurred to me until now.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @TeachWriting2
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Absolutely!
#teachwriting
In reply to @MrsRteaches
ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6: not often enough! I need to get better with this but am planning to implement writing videos this year!
#TeachWriting
missryan9
Sep 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I've never thought about this!
#EdTech562
members, how do you do this? What grade do you teach/how old are your kiddos?
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Q6 - How and how often do you share your own writing and process with your students?
#TeachWriting
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: I really think developing the craft of our "live time" teaching during conferences and sm groups would ease the work load
#TeachWriting
upahk
Sep 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6: I try to read/write alongside my students but often feel embarrassed to share my own writing. Something I need to work on!
#teachwriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6 - I share models a lot, but I rarely share process. That's a big goal for me this year. I'm hoping to involve them more.
#teachwriting
KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6: we have to be willing to be vulnerable and share the good, the ugly, the in-flux!
#Teachwriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A6 whenever I ask Ss to write. I often ramble on about it during daily read aloud, too. Part of seeing the world as a writer
#teachwriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
They are often really engaged when you're willing to be vulnerable like this. Humanizes you, engages/involves them. .
#teachwriting
In reply to @upahk
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
So you can definitely empathize with your Ss, Kaylin! Many writers feel this way!
#TeachWriting
upahk
Sep 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6: I try to read/write alongside my students but often feel embarrassed to share my own writing. Something I need to work on!
#teachwriting
KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:43 PM EDT
When I was writing my thesis for my MA, I brought in the prof's edits...they loved seeing someone correct my writing.
#teachwriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6 - I share models a lot, but I rarely share process. That's a big goal for me this year. I'm hoping to involve them more.
#teachwriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
How do T respond?
#teachwriting
In reply to @ShelfieTalk
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:44 PM EDT
I've been less willing to share longer, more personal and important tasks w/Ss. Need to practice what I preach.
#teachwriting
In reply to @MrsRteaches
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
The penultimate question is nigh - it's our token tech question (mwa ha ha!)
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Now that's brave. I think I burned my drafts. . .
#teachwriting
In reply to @KellyTumy
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:45 PM EDT
YES! But it's so awesome if you can do it! So fun!
#teachwriting
In reply to @KellyTumy
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Q7 - What are some tech resources you use to support your writing instruction?
#TeachWriting
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
They are appreciative of time dedicated to writing for themselves. We started a teacher-writer group last year also.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @DocJLB
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A7 The 'good old fashion' Google Docs is still a powerful tool-our school does not support many tech tools/resources.
#TeachWriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
It's not easy. I've often cried, embarrassed myself. But it's quite powerful (for Ss and T) when you're able to. Go for it!
#teachwriting
In reply to @upahk
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A7 - Captain Obvious (at least to me) is pointing toward Google Docs and Drive. Also nice to have Classroom.
#teachwriting
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A6:
@JSerravallo
has a gr8 podcast episode - describes how important it is to name the thing you did as you model process 1/
#TeachWriting
ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A7: trying Write About this year, and I'm liking the S engagement I'm seeing...
#TeachWriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
So tough. But it's quite powerful! Use your fellow writers to help you!
#TeachWriting
In reply to @bkuhl2you, @MrsRteaches
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A7 - Hoping to use Kidblog more this year, and more effectively. I'm pushing for Seesaw on our chromebooks to help w/ports.
#teachwriting
KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A7: I'm loving
@Flipgrid
lately for feedback, but also for student responses. It's pretty fun.
#Teachwriting
franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A7: blogs, Google Docs, Seesaw, Flipgrid, and Google Forms
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Q7 - What are some tech resources you use to support your writing instruction?
#TeachWriting
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A7 We have created a padlet of sources of digital mentor texts for Gr 6-12 teachers.
#TeachWriting
ebushDVMS8
Sep 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A7: another goal for me this year is a library of writing/grammar/usage videos.
#TeachWriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:48 PM EDT
LOVE THIS! It's difficult getting it off the ground, but I love small group work! So fun!
#teachwriting
In reply to @MrsRteaches
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Padlet is pretty versatile - I've used it a few different ways.
#teachwriting
In reply to @ShelfieTalk
EduGladiators
Sep 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Join
#EduGladiators
Saturday💥8amCT/9amET💥w/NEW series &
@BClarksonTX
kicks off the convo!
#personalizedPD
#TeachWriting
#TXLchat
#ecechat
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6: Says that you want to break what you did into steps to make it transferable (i.e. I closed my eyes, pictured the scene 2/
#TeachWriting
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
I love it. I have started creating padlets for workshop resources and giving out a QR code instead of a handout.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @bkuhl2you
KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A7: there are some great
#whyiwrite
podcasts w/
@ncte
Loved
@halseanderson
episode-Great to share w/ kids who read her bks
#Teachwriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Great advice for reading strategy instruction, too - think alouds, chunking, steps in the process.
#teachwriting
In reply to @MrsRteaches
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: ...added more to my writing from what I envisioned) Makes it not magic, but a transferrable skill
#TeachWriting
AncrumSara
Sep 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A7:
https://t.co/hv2WNMuHK6
Ss like this for journal.
#TeachWriting
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A7 Best? Created a Google Classroom for all of my S so they can view each other's work in different class periods.
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6 - It's sort of lame, but
https://t.co/yjRw5brwSH
has free Google Slideshow templates that are pretty fun.
#teachwriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Here comes the last question!
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Q8 - What are some topics we should discuss on this chat? What are some ways we could collaborate with/help each other?
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
(meant A7 on that one, sorry. . . )
#teachwriting
upahk
Sep 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
If you'd ever want to try an online teacher writing group, I'd be down!
#teachwriting
In reply to @MrsRteaches
TSUtorres8
Sep 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A8: I would love if my class had a pen pals communication for writing this year. Please share ideas to make this happen.
#Teachwriting
In reply to @TeachWriting2
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A8 What about focusing a chat on creating texts that are not print?
#TeachWriting
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Yes, it is totally fine for me.
#TeachWriting
In reply to @erinvarley, @LitCoachLady, @bkuhl2you
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A8 Support! Encouragement! Tech ideas always welcome!
#teachwriting
franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A8: How do you build common language across all Ts in bldg? district? How do you create model text sets? Criteria & examples.
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Q8 - What are some topics we should discuss on this chat? What are some ways we could collaborate with/help each other?
#TeachWriting
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A8 Maybe a chat about expanding our definition or schema of "What is Writing?" Digital, visual, oral, multimedia...
#TeachWriting
upahk
Sep 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A8: How everyone grades student writing & uses the workshop model daily. And what books you're currently reading/recommend!
#teachwriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Lots of new faces and great contributions tonight! Thanks so much for joining us - please consider leading a chat this fall!
#teachwriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
We could use some guest moderation - please consider -
https://t.co/AiJGAeDd0I
#TeachWriting
missryan9
Sep 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Incorporating technology in writing and writing instruction in PreK classrooms & strategies for feedback
#TeachWriting
#EdTech562
In reply to @TeachWriting2
ShelfieTalk
Sep 5 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thanks
#TeachWriting
for lots of writing inspiration and new ideas!
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thank you so much for spending your time with us! We appreciate your thoughts and contributions - thanks for sharing!
#TeachWriting
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thanks for a great
#TeachWriting
chat tonight. Need to sign off as a big Tstorm is moving in. You all lifted my thinking so much!
franmcveigh
Sep 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thanks for the great chat, the inspiration and the ideas,
#TeachWriting
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
There must be something out there already.
#teachwriting
, are there online teacher writing groups that help Ts work on their writing craft?
In reply to @upahk
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Our other co-founder -
@lisahughes196
- wasn't able to join us, but we hope to see her around here again soon!
#teachwriting
In reply to @lisahughes196
KellyTumy
Sep 5 @ 9:58 PM EDT
I live this idea, too.
#Teachwriting
LitCoachLady
Sep 5 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A8 Maybe a chat about expanding our definition or schema of "What is Writing?" Digital, visual, oral, multimedia...
#TeachWriting
TeachWriting2
- Moderator
Sep 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks so much to
@bkuhl2you
for moderating - if you'd like to lead a chat, watch for the Google Form and let us know!
#TeachWriting
bkuhl2you
Sep 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us, Fran! You made some valuable contributions tonight! Appreciate your thoughts!
#teachwriting
In reply to @franmcveigh
DocJLB
Sep 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Awesome food for thought as well as motivation!
#TeachWriting
Twitter chat! PD in pajamas! The. Best.
MrsRteaches
Sep 5 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A8: it seems like working on our own writing lives/writing craft as teachers could be a fun chat!!
#TeachWriting