#collschat Archive
Collingswood Public Schools Book chats and other education topics.
Tuesday April 12, 2016
7:30 PM EDT
whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
#collschat
! We are discussing
@CathyNDavidson
's "Now You See It" Chap 2/3 tonight!
MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Good to be here!
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Good evening!
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:31 PM EDT
I'm Dan, Tech Coach at Colls, I'll be moderating. Introduce yourselves!
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Hey friends!
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MrsVesper
Apr 12 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Debi from the CST joining tonight. Glad I could make the chat this week!
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:31 PM EDT
I'm Patrice. I teach 7th, 8th, and 9th grade English at Oaklyn Public School.
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:32 PM EDT
We'll be using Q1/A1 format - join us on
@participatelrn
for a better chat experience!
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:32 PM EDT
I'm Lisa, the elementary tech teacher in Colls.
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CollsCompSci
Apr 12 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hi All!
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kysmith424
Apr 12 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Kylie - counselor at Collingswood High School
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cwahlCHS
Apr 12 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Carol from CHS
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Elisabeth, English teacher,
#HamiltonMusical
fan, dinner procrastinator.
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mr_dfenton
Apr 12 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Hey
#collschat
friends! Dylan, NJ English teacher here
CollsCompSci
Apr 12 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Computer Science teacher from CHS
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Q1 What change do u resent in what schools were/are/could be? Does it help to know humans are irrational?
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:36 PM EDT
I don't like all of the excessive standardized testing. I don't think they really show what students have learned.
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CathyNDavidson
Apr 12 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Hi there
@whalen
Give me some leads and I'm happy to pop in here for a while
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I'm honored that you are tweeting ab NYSI!
MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:37 PM EDT
I feel more circumscribed by top-down mandates. It has taken the fun and spontaneity out of teaching.
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:37 PM EDT
@CathyNDavidson
Yay welcome welcome! Thanks for popping in!
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:38 PM EDT
A1: I love recognizing that nostalgia can make me irrational. Nothing wrong with nostalgia - just dont let it dictate the future
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:38 PM EDT
@CathyNDavidson
I am enjoying the book and reflecting on my own practices.
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:38 PM EDT
A1: sometimes I wish for more flexibility during the day, schedule wise. And I'm not a fan of any standardized test.
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CathyNDavidson
Apr 12 @ 7:38 PM EDT
BTW: My pet name for Chp 2 is "How To Build a Baby"
@whalen
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:39 PM EDT
To reference Mad Men (favorite show of mind), nostalgia is Greek for pain from an old wound.
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CollsCompSci
Apr 12 @ 7:39 PM EDT
A1: I don't know where to begin. This week's reading has made me look at everything so differently.
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:40 PM EDT
One of my intellectual idols,
@hodgman
, often warns against making nostalgia based choices. It's often the enemy, period.
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mr_dfenton
Apr 12 @ 7:40 PM EDT
English teachers almost always fetishize paper books, esp. novels. Something I'm trying to reevaluate in my current practice.
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:40 PM EDT
.
@CathyNDavidson
love it! With an 18 month old at home, the chap was that much more relevant!
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CollsCompSci
Apr 12 @ 7:40 PM EDT
Honored to have you with us
@CathyNDavidson
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:41 PM EDT
Good word ;) A tough one for me - still undecided.
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mr_dfenton
Apr 12 @ 7:40 PM EDT
English teachers almost always fetishize paper books, esp. novels. Something I'm trying to reevaluate in my current practice.
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Tsandyhart
Apr 12 @ 7:41 PM EDT
Sandy, 6th grade teacher here
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:41 PM EDT
@mr_dfenton
Yes, reading To Kill a Mockingbird with my students does take me back to my own childhood.
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Q2 We "Mistake high standards for standardization" How can we change this while continuing to provide a rigorous education 4 all?
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Ooh wow! I didnt know that Patrice!
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:39 PM EDT
To reference Mad Men (favorite show of mind), nostalgia is Greek for pain from an old wound.
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Very ironic that day that we are having this chat...
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:38 PM EDT
A1: sometimes I wish for more flexibility during the day, schedule wise. And I'm not a fan of any standardized test.
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:42 PM EDT
.
@CathyNDavidson
Yes, my son is a few weeks older than
@whalen
& Kathy's. Fascinating info about how babies learn!
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:42 PM EDT
A2: By differentiating based on the abilities of our students.
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MrsVesper
Apr 12 @ 7:42 PM EDT
A1: We used to ask what kids want to do "when they grow up." There are different ways to frame it, but we should talk about it.
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:43 PM EDT
@Tsandyhart
Hey Sandy
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:43 PM EDT
@whalen
Well, my brother recommended it to me when I was little, and I forever have a soft spot in my heart for it now!
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kysmith424
Apr 12 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A1: I like the tech - its great. But social media can sometimes have a neg affect. I miss when things werent so "out there".
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cwahlCHS
Apr 12 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A1: I don't like that average isn't okay for so many any more.
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A2: Tough question...standardization is steeped in a "one size fits all" mentality.
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mr_dfenton
Apr 12 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A2: The move towards personalized learning - high standards w/o standardizing kids.
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:45 PM EDT
YES - we need more personalization in education!
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mr_dfenton
Apr 12 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A2: The move towards personalized learning - high standards w/o standardizing kids.
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MrsVesper
Apr 12 @ 7:45 PM EDT
A2: Standards are all relative; we need to hold all kids to high standards, the level of which is based on their ability.
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cwahlCHS
Apr 12 @ 7:45 PM EDT
Every student has his/her own personal "high standards", and that's okay!
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:45 PM EDT
A1: I agree
@kysmith424
. I am embracing much of the technology, but sometimes I wish it were more streamlined.
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CollsCompSci
Apr 12 @ 7:46 PM EDT
A2: All this training on differentiation AND we have leveled classes, yet students are all given the same test.
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:46 PM EDT
A2: I think a key is giving QUICK individualized feedback. Learned a lot about conferring recently and want to try it next year.
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A2: I love this cartoon about standardization:
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https://t.co/DrNTnQHyxw
MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A2: Yes,
@CollsCompSci
. How do we teach to independent levels and then expect all of our students to move through a cattle chute?
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:48 PM EDT
@CathyNDavidson
@MsYucis
I taught biology for 10 years! Students always love to think it's one or the other - clearly both.
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CollsCompSci
Apr 12 @ 7:48 PM EDT
Me too. It says it all.
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https://t.co/nugGlHi437
CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A2: I love this cartoon about standardization:
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https://t.co/DrNTnQHyxw
MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:48 PM EDT
A2:
@CollsCompSci
Or teach to instructional levels, I meant...
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:49 PM EDT
Q3: How do we change this? What do we measure? What CAN we measure?
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:49 PM EDT
If we all accepted that life is annoying sometimes!
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CathyNDavidson
Apr 12 @ 7:47 PM EDT
Sometimes it's good, sometimes annoying, but distraction breaks us from habits (sometimes good, sometimes annoying) = Life!@MsYucis
@whalen
CathyNDavidson
Apr 12 @ 7:49 PM EDT
Anything you'd like me to do specifically in this twitter chat,
@whalen
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:49 PM EDT
My husband is an identical twin, so I'm always noticing nature and nurture with those two.
@CathyNDavidson
@whalen
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:49 PM EDT
A3: There has to be a way to measure growth without standardization.
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Tsandyhart
Apr 12 @ 7:50 PM EDT
A2. Realize that the real question is: Did the Ss reach the objective? Hard to know with a standardized question
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CollsCompSci
Apr 12 @ 7:50 PM EDT
Q3: Why not ask the kids?
#DukeU
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cwahlCHS
Apr 12 @ 7:50 PM EDT
A3: My kids don't fit in any mold. I use other ways to measure growth; vocational assessments are great.
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:51 PM EDT
@CathyNDavidson
I particularly enjoyed reading about "crowdsourcing." It made me think of project-based learning.
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:51 PM EDT
@CathyNDavidson
everything you're adding is gold right now 😁
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CollsCompSci
Apr 12 @ 7:51 PM EDT
Yes!
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:48 PM EDT
A2:
@CollsCompSci
Or teach to instructional levels, I meant...
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kysmith424
Apr 12 @ 7:51 PM EDT
A2: When we schedule, we want each S to push themselves individually. It's not the same across the board. In testing, it is.
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A3: we measure growth!
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A3: I loved the part about "Crowdsourcing" but I don't picture that being embraced by the politicians!
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mr_dfenton
Apr 12 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A3: Is learning even measurable? I mean, REALLY measurable?
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A3:
@CollsTechElem
So true!
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CathyNDavidson
Apr 12 @ 7:53 PM EDT
Ch 3 Project Classroom Makeover is became in/famous: iPod experiment. Much crowdsourcing,many ideas,learning
@MrsSteller
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@whalen
whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:53 PM EDT
Thank you. Seriously, I think this daily.
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mr_dfenton
Apr 12 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A3: Is learning even measurable? I mean, REALLY measurable?
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:53 PM EDT
A3: Students can show tremendous growth that won't necessarily show on a standardized test.
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:53 PM EDT
A3:
@mr_dfenton
Good point! Does not seem measurable in a linear sense, especially with way kids learn today.
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:54 PM EDT
lol
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https://t.co/1kfoRCL3sZ
MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A3: we measure growth!
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Q4 What was the most formative experience of your life in school? What role do games play in your life? in learning?
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MrsVesper
Apr 12 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A3: Assess progress "at opportunity" - use trials over time to measure if the Ss have learned a skill taught previously..informal
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:55 PM EDT
A4: When I think back, I remember the fun things, the passionate teachers. I do not remember specific lessons.
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:55 PM EDT
A4: getting a C on an English paper in 11th grade & having my teacher convince me I earned the C and WOULD do better next time!
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:56 PM EDT
A1: Most formative learning for me often happened in Boy Scouts. Learn by doing, super empathetic leader.
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mr_dfenton
Apr 12 @ 7:57 PM EDT
@whalen
I'm with you. The experiential stuff is always the stuff that has stuck with me.
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:57 PM EDT
A4: It was non-academic. Orchestra and playing the violin were the most formative.
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:57 PM EDT
A4: Most formative experiences were my high school English classes and how much my teacher loved Moby Dick
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MrsVesper
Apr 12 @ 7:57 PM EDT
A4: Saw 4th grade teacher buying underwear made the 10 yr old me realize he was human too! (after I got past the embarrassment)
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:58 PM EDT
....the relationships and working together for the common goal (different instruments all part of a bigger "whole").
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:58 PM EDT
A4 I remember the relationships. Teachers who cared about me as a person. Minutiae has faded.
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Tsandyhart
Apr 12 @ 7:58 PM EDT
A4: I remember a smiling teacher and lots of coloring and singing. I loved singing songs and remember a few from kindergarten
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whalen
- Moderator
Apr 12 @ 7:58 PM EDT
@MrsVesper
Thats geat haha. Always was weirded out seeing teachers outside school
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CollsCompSci
Apr 12 @ 7:59 PM EDT
A4: I asked my HS English teacher for extra help with Shakespeare and then he patted me on the back during a test.
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MrsSteller
Apr 12 @ 7:59 PM EDT
A4: I remember making dioramas and playing Eeyore in the school play and drawing a fairy tale on old-school filmstrip
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CollsTechElem
Apr 12 @ 7:59 PM EDT
A4: I remember my 7th & 8th grade English teacher who supported my efforts and believed in me, even when I didn't. -- Mrs. Berry
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MsYucis
Apr 12 @ 7:59 PM EDT
A4: also, I was never ever #1 at anything- academics, sports, music- I learned to do MY best and to not see myself as "losing".
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