#ISEDchat Archive
Independent School EdChat.
Thursday July 21, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome to
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- summer is the time where Ts and As transition schools or roles. Tonight we will talk about these transitions.
Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Lisa her, one of the
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mods and your lead mod tonight. Last summer I transitioned to new school and new role. What about you?
ckoos1
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Cathy Koos from Florida here...I'll be in and out tonight
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ckoos1
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
I help new Ts each year transition into our school.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@47teach
I know.. and shifts are always a little tough. Was for me but after a few months it felt like home!
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sarahhanawald
Jul 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Hi Lisa--great topic.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
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Q1: When did you last join a new school/transition into a new role?
nathan_stevens
Jul 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
this summer I have been a traveling roadshow
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sarahhanawald
Jul 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Transitions can be challenging. I wonder sometimes if having all transitions happen in the summer is really best.
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ckoos1
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: 7 years ago into a new role: Head of Lower School
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Lorri here from CT. Spotty connection where I am. Love this topic! Thanks,
@learn21tech
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nathan_stevens
Jul 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
A1 11 years ago
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: 3 years ago transitioned from Director of Technology to Director of Lower School.
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1. Adding Technology Director on top of Lower School Head and loving it!!!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@nathan_stevens
does being somewhere longer make it harder to leave?
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
wow, I can't even imagine.. that is a lot of work! How are you feeling about it?
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nathan_stevens
Jul 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
hard to say. More of the fact that you develop a comfort level but I hat being comfortable
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
@nathan_stevens
No if it means growth: to the institution, professionally and personally.
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
I am loving the new challenges and the chance to redesign PD.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
My transition had its ups and downs and overall good - key people on my team like our Dean of Students helped!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q3: How do you learn about workplace culture in a new school/role?
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Most definitely. Never afraid to delegate. A strong team will jump right in and keep things afloat.
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Hi all! Kevin here from PA. I started in my new roll teaching math two years ago. It has been a quite the journey!
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ckoos1
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A3: Listen. Ask questions.
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Jul 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
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nathan_stevens
Jul 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
A3 i wander around the building and talk to people. I like getting lost in a building
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Mauradee2003
Jul 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Listen more than you speak & watch more than you listen.
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
It depends. Some of us... living - surviving - that first year. I am a strong believer in transition plans and coaching.
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
A3. I was an observer of the position for several years as my office was across from Director of LS... helped a LOT!
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A3: It is important to ask questions of veterans, other new hires, and Ss. Need more than one story.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q3: How do you learn about workplace culture in a new school/role?
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@MooreMathMP
in what ways (and hi!)
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q3 Year 1 was like honeymoon. Year 2 was a lot harder. Felt like I hit my stride in year 3 :)
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@nathan_stevens
agree and you must sometimes make the time for this a priority
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A3. It depends. Some of us... living - surviving - that first year. I am a strong believer in transition plans and coaching.
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nathan_stevens
Jul 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
also shows that you care about learning more about the people and where they spend their day
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A3: Having "trusted advisers" helps. Talk to everyone including facilities and security staff. Watch and have
#empathy
.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
There are 4 typical situations we can walk into when in a new school or role.. 1/2
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
I left a job I loved and unfortunately compared. Did not look for the good in a new place. I am finding the good!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
2/2 A start-up, turn-around, sustaining success and a realignment. which are you drawn too and why? Q4
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@47teach
that is awesome and such a positive attitude!
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Yes! Trusted advisers is imprtnt. There r natural individuals on campus to buy in building relationships
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A3: Having "trusted advisers" helps. Talk to everyone including facilities and security staff. Watch and have
#empathy
.
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
I did a lot of realigning in my role. Felt like I could tackle systematic changes that would make a big impact first.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A4: I am drawn to start-up or re-alignment environments in schools.. love to problem solve and build teams.
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Me too!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A4: I am drawn to start-up or re-alignment environments in schools.. love to problem solve and build teams.
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Yes, yes, yes. There is a growing environment of developing as learners and working/teaming with each other.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@Mauradee2003
yes! I agree..
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A4. I am drawn to re-alignment but always taking into consideration current successful practices. Building from there.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
agree its so important to celebrate and grow success - help it bear more fruit!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
How might we determine which of the 4 situations we are walking into when entering a new role/school?
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Most definitely. Don't don't throw the baby out with the bathwater! Some roots will help keep it strong.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
yes! throwing out all tradition will certainly be poor move esp for a new admin!
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Being across the hall, I observed some things over the years that could be easy fixes- report card system, dismissal procedures...
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
It is important that your team understand change is part of the plans though. But seeing it as growth and not threat.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@lcarroll94
awesome - looks like you were practicing design thinking!
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
@adrihollenbeck
Agreed. There is a reason a school has current successes...identify WHAT they are and WHY they stand.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@Mauradee2003
there could be more than 1 tho... how to assess which areas are in which phase.. how do we determine?
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
@Learn21Tech
That is very true. These were systems that everyone identified as needing improvement.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I like to practice using
#designthinking
methods to assess situations.. observe, compare, talk to others.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q5: Who can help with transitioning into a new role other than your supervisor...
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
and the EMPATHIZE step is crucial. People approach it different when they understand why.
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
YES! We are doing this now in
@MalvernPrep
's Summer Institute for Ts! Also
@StrengthsFinder
for teaming.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I like to practice using
#designthinking
methods to assess situations.. observe, compare, talk to others.
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A5. People help in many ways, including students. Some also need to understand things are changing but it's all right.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
You know I LOVE some strengths: strategic, individualization, achiever, input, activator in 'da house
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
YES! We are doing this now in
@MalvernPrep
's Summer Institute for Ts! Also
@StrengthsFinder
for teaming.
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https://t.co/B6MXlsrdYU
Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I like to practice using
#designthinking
methods to assess situations.. observe, compare, talk to others.
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
I had some key people that I trusted. I would seek their advice and bounce ideas off them.
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A5. And when they ask why, ask why not? Sometimes I joke when new ideas come and I say, "No 'yeah, but". Let's just try.
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
I like that you included Ss! Ss included in hiring process too!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
helps promote the
#growthmindset
for sure
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@MooreMathMP
Yes! Just did that hiring a new Third Grade teacher. Three finalists, demos... and then I listened to kids too.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Ss can definitely help with transitions many will "tell it like it is" and that helps immensely.
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Oh, yes!!! And parents will question. "But it's always been done this way..."
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Tuning in and maximizing my strengths...Achiever, Discipline, Responsibility, Harmony, Individualization
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
You know I LOVE some strengths: strategic, individualization, achiever, input, activator in 'da house
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
YES! We are doing this now in
@MalvernPrep
's Summer Institute for Ts! Also
@StrengthsFinder
for teaming.
#isedchat
https://t.co/B6MXlsrdYU
Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I like to practice using
#designthinking
methods to assess situations.. observe, compare, talk to others.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Q6: What are some mistakes you could make when transitioning schools/roles that can impact your success?
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
@Learn21Tech
Big challenge...BIG. Up for the challenge and the questions...in the end we will be better for it.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@MooreMathMP
we share two and have two very opposite strengths.. we would be good team members!
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A6. Not taking that gut feeling into consideration. Fear can slow things down. Caution advised, but not fear. Believe you can!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A6: Big mistakes: being too rigid and not flexible, taking things to personally, not listening with empathy.. just a few.
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Oh... I still take everything so personally! I always think it's my fault. Still do. :(
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@47teach
@adrihollenbeck
Kristin is one of our go-to parents and I like to seek her feedback. Open communication key!
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ckoos1
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A6: assuming you know why something is done instead of asking and finding out before passing judgment
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Not asking enough questions about the history behind why something is the way it is.
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Hmmm....do I see a future project together?!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@MooreMathMP
we share two and have two very opposite strengths.. we would be good team members!
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Mauradee2003
Jul 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Q6 Constant litany of 'In my former position...' Bringing your experience works, constant comparison doesn't.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
hard not too! I have learned now esp as a HoS that sometimes I have to have thick skin!
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
@Learn21Tech
I take things personally, too. I have to remind myself that it's not about me.
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47teach
Jul 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
@adrihollenbeck
I appreciate that you are willing to listen to the parents and students!
#HFAFAMILY
!
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
A6- not listening to all sides of an issue thoroughly enough. Jumping to conclusions too quickly.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@47teach
no admin is perfect but we try and do pretty well. always focus on growth and getting better!
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@lcarroll94
@Learn21Tech
I know it is not, but I come home and feel bad. I want to make sure all is always great!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@lcarroll94
its so hard to take the time and be patient with this though!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q7: What are examples of "easy wins" when transitioning to a new school and/or role?
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Making assumptions. Enough said...
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Q6: What are some mistakes you could make when transitioning schools/roles that can impact your success?
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
It is hard not to jump at the info right in front of you. Need to get all info first before making a decision.
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claudiadaggett
Jul 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Such a good question. Enjoying following this evening.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Q6: What are some mistakes you could make when transitioning schools/roles that can impact your success?
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A7: example: At my school the girls wanted head bands as per uniform policy.. easy yes from me and easy win.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
should be noted that I consulted our key academic leadership team to be sure they were on board.. also little win there.
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A7. Take advantage of what is negotiable, give your constituencies a voice. Let them consider your voice. Celebrate!
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Eating lunch with colleagues...simple and easy.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q7: What are examples of "easy wins" when transitioning to a new school and/or role?
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@MooreMathMP
yes and making the time for lunch, or going into the office to talk to office staff/get snacks!
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A7. Honor best practices, communicate, communicate, communicate. Reference NAIS.
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@Mauradee2003
@lcarroll94
@adrihollenbeck
love this!
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@Mauradee2003
@adrihollenbeck
@Learn21Tech
Great idea! I have seen these before but the visual is powerful!
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A7: Think with you heart + head, have faith and collaborate with your team.. take time to build team!
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
True! Making connections by spending TIME n talking with people. Put the work, computer, phone, etc. aside and listen
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
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we are almost out of time.. I am also out of Qs. Any last thoughts?
MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Can you make a poster out of this??
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A7: Think with you heart + head, have faith and collaborate with your team.. take time to build team!
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
be available for faculty. Don't expect anything of others that you wouldn't do yourself.
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Mauradee2003
Jul 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@lcarroll94
@adrihollenbeck
@Learn21Tech
It can help others who *might* need to see it too! 😎
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@Mauradee2003
@lcarroll94
@Learn21Tech
You bet!!!
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47teach
Jul 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
thank you for telling me about this chat. This was my first one ever. Did get some insight on transitions. Thanks
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adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Is anyone Storifying this chat?
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@47teach
so glad you came! Please join us again. :)
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Open heart, open mind, n stick 2 who you r in your new role. Best of luck in your roles!
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Thx
@Learn21Tech
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Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
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we are almost out of time.. I am also out of Qs. Any last thoughts?
adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I love connecting with other educators. One of my goals for this year for SURE!
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@47teach
@Learn21Tech
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was my first chat a couple months ago. Great start then and continuing!
Learn21Tech
Jul 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
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thanks to all who joined and good luck to all of my fellow educators transitioning to new roles and/or schools!
adrihollenbeck
Jul 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
It was a great topic by the way. Thank you.
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MooreMathMP
Jul 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@adrihollenbeck
Yes, I completely agree!
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lcarroll94
- Moderator
Jul 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@Learn21Tech
Thanks for moderating, Lisa! Great topic and awesome discussion. Have a nice weekend, everyone.
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