#formativechat Archive
Discuss the implementation, impact of Formative and formative assessment.
Monday October 16, 2017
7:30 PM EDT
goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:30 PM EDT
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Oct 16 @ 7:30 PM EDT
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Welcome to tonight's
#formativechat
- happy to be guest host tonight! Please tell us who you are, where you are from, & what you teach.
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Welcome to another great week of
#formativechat
looking forward to the conversation!
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Excited to get started with
#formativechat
!
drangelapeery
Oct 16 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Hi there, Angela, author and consultant, at home in South Carolina and ready to learn!
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Hey Shelly! Thank you so much for guest hosting tonight!
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In reply to @raspberryberet3
BrianDunleavy16
Oct 16 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Hey all Brian MS dean from VA evening!
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masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Jodi Whitman Elementary Washington TWP, NJ reading teacher
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Couldn't agree more!
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In reply to @Rdene915
WexfordHomeSch
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
I'm Jason from Ireland and a Home Educator to my 5 kids so provide lesson's on a wide range of Subjects
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robblackston
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hello! Rob Blackston from Coeur d'Alene, ID. Surgical Technology instructor in a community college
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CandyMaxwell13
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hi! Music teacher
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#whitmanwtps
In reply to @raspberryberet3
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Welcome Angela!
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In reply to @drangelapeery
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hi Brian, happy Monday!
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In reply to @BrianDunleavy16
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hi David and welcome!
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:31 PM EDT
Excited to get started with
#formativechat
!
tcondon2013
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Tom from Minnetonka MN, grade6 math, here for just a bit
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hi Jodi, good to have you!
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In reply to @masso_jodi
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Welcome Jason!!
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In reply to @WexfordHomeSch
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hi Angela; thanks for joining us. We will get started soon!
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In reply to @drangelapeery
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Wow, that sounds awesome, welcome Rob!
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In reply to @robblackston
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Hey Candy!
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CandyMaxwell13
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hi! Music teacher
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#whitmanwtps
In reply to @raspberryberet3
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Welcome to
#formativechat
Candy!
In reply to @CandyMaxwell13, @raspberryberet3
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Hey Rob; welcome to
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robblackston
Oct 16 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Hello! Rob Blackston from Coeur d'Alene, ID. Surgical Technology instructor in a community college
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Glad you can join!
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In reply to @tcondon2013
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Hey everyone, I'm David and I help lead our community at
#goformative
! I'm a former special educator specializing in ASD
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Q1 coming up!!
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Hey Danielle! Welcome :)
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In reply to @DMooreSpanish
LScumpieru
Oct 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Lisa Scumpieru 10th grade ELA teacher in Hagerstown, Md.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
And you rock!
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In reply to @davidwkwan
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Hi Lisa :)
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In reply to @LScumpieru
goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Q1 is coming up in
#formativechat
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Hi Danielle!
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In reply to @DMooreSpanish
pollack_hannah4
Oct 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Hello everyone! My name is Hannah and I'm studying Early Childhood Education. I thought I'd join you tonight to learn.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
A1 GIves opportunities for Ss to interact, build relatshps, find support w/peers, set goals and grow together
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Q1:
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#stuvoice
goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
We can't wait to learn from everyone in today's
#formativechat
!
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Me too!
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In reply to @heisterj
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
We are glad you did! Welcome
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In reply to @pollack_hannah4
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Q1
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Hi Hannah and welcome to tonight's
#formativechat
:)
pollack_hannah4
Oct 16 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Hello everyone! My name is Hannah and I'm studying Early Childhood Education. I thought I'd join you tonight to learn.
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kispypniko
Oct 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
Yay it's time for
#formativechat
good morning from Bangkok I am Niko PYP Coordinator and teacher librarian
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
We are just starting
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still time to join us before
#edtechchat
#learnlap
#tlap
:)
SusZanti5
Oct 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
Hello & good evening
#formativechat
PLN! Susan, instructional coach, LCPS, VA, looking forward to the topic and chat đź’
@raspberryberet3
đź‘Ť
masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
A1 Peer feedback among Ss is important. Ss often trust each others feedback
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#whitmanwtps
JoveStickel
Oct 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
Jove MS Principal from MO it’s been a while glad to be back
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
A1: build communication skills and relationships, different perspectives. Challenge is to ensure it is effective feedback
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SusZanti5
Oct 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
A3: Be consistent-reflect on the process, what’s working well-where do we want to go-what might be some ideas-keep Ss at ❤️
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gvtechteach
Oct 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
A1: Students gain different perspectives and also learn how to give critical feedback instead of just talking at someone
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Start with creating a supportive environment, via
@mssackstein
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Hi Niko, thanks for joining us each week!
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In reply to @kispypniko
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Welcome back Susan!
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In reply to @SusZanti5, @raspberryberet3
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Hi NIko and welcome to
#formativechat
:)
kispypniko
Oct 16 @ 7:36 PM EDT
Yay it's time for
#formativechat
good morning from Bangkok I am Niko PYP Coordinator and teacher librarian
MsJdickinson
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Jamie from upstate NY, earth science teacher and PBL teacher leader...Thank you for moderating!
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Yes it has, glad you have returned :)
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In reply to @JoveStickel
LScumpieru
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
A1: Peer feedback can be that authentic audience Ss need to reach. It can also be hard for Ss to be critical of one another.
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BrianDunleavy16
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
A1 Value is feedback is given at their level, easier to understand. Helps Ss learn collaboration & critical thinking
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
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In reply to @Rdene915
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
A1: Ss get to share their learning w/ each other and therefore learn from each other.
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tcondon2013
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Peer fb provides Ss another lense to view alternative views ... common and/or different
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Yes and great way to build relatships and support for them, build leadership skills and confidence
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In reply to @masso_jodi
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
Hi Jamie and welcome to
#formativechat
! :)
MsJdickinson
Oct 16 @ 7:37 PM EDT
Jamie from upstate NY, earth science teacher and PBL teacher leader...Thank you for moderating!
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WexfordHomeSch
Oct 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
A1 for me it's good to see kids learning to accept others opinions and take them on board
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masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
A1 a challenge is teaming up the right Ss
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#whitmanwtps
goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
Q1 is now up in our weekly
#formativechat
!
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:35 PM EDT
Q1:
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#stuvoice
JoveStickel
Oct 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
A1 teaches Ss how to accept and use criticism to improve. An be bad if Ss aren’t given expectations or training
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CandyMaxwell13
Oct 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
A1: I feel the biggest challenge with S feedback is getting all Ss involved. For example be shy Ss.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
Agreed, and also helps them become better at analyzing their own work, knowing it is ok to make mistakes, everyone does
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In reply to @gvtechteach
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
A1: you must build a postive and inclusive classroom community for peer feedback to work.
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kispypniko
Oct 16 @ 7:38 PM EDT
A1 peer feedback is the most effective form of feedback, challenges include using authentic protocols that Ss embrace
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
Awesome, I love doing
#pbl
with my classes, welcome Jamie!
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In reply to @MsJdickinson
gvtechteach
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
so true!
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In reply to @LScumpieru
MsJdickinson
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
A1: Encourages positive talk and relationship building.Takes a lot of energy to teach positive words and meaningful feedback.
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
Aw yeah, Susan's in the house!
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In reply to @SusZanti5, @Rdene915, @raspberryberet3
robblackston
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
A1: Peer feedback is essential for a healthcare program. Ss learn what to do and what not to do.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
It can be, and if we facilitate, start with small groups and build, definitely helps
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In reply to @LScumpieru
HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
Hello Monday night gang! Ray from South Jersey. Principal and World Languages educator.
#whitmanwtps
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BKd204Sci
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
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A1 Peer feedback sets the stage for communication growth & empathy development Ss need to know how to get/give feedback
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:40 PM EDT
developing collaboration skills is essential.
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:)
In reply to @BrianDunleavy16
kenzieeehayley
Oct 16 @ 7:40 PM EDT
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as a kindergarten teacher, peer feedback can be tough. Young students often struggle with the correct verbiage to use
LScumpieru
Oct 16 @ 7:40 PM EDT
Yes. I think Ss can start off with peer feedback that is simple and build throughout the year.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
It can be, and if we facilitate, start with small groups and build, definitely helps
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In reply to @LScumpieru
BKd204Sci
Oct 16 @ 7:40 PM EDT
Brian from IL jumping in a bit late
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:40 PM EDT
Hey Ray! Welcome to
#formativechat
:)
HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:39 PM EDT
Hello Monday night gang! Ray from South Jersey. Principal and World Languages educator.
#whitmanwtps
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:40 PM EDT
@WexfordHomeSch
Definitely helps Ss to build skills on so many different levels
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In reply to @raspberryberet3, @WexfordHomeSch
MsJdickinson
Oct 16 @ 7:41 PM EDT
Definitely easier to moderate and teach those small groups.
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In reply to @Rdene915, @LScumpieru
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:41 PM EDT
It can be, try starting w/ 1 student paired w another, or a group of 3, and build confidence in that group & support as needd
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In reply to @CandyMaxwell13
gvtechteach
Oct 16 @ 7:41 PM EDT
absolutely!
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In reply to @Rdene915
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:41 PM EDT
yes, it can be a challenge - I used to do emojis to start.
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In reply to @kenzieeehayley
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:41 PM EDT
agreed! and I think they are often more receptive to it since they have shared experiences
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In reply to @masso_jodi
HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:41 PM EDT
A1 authentic feedback between Ss on same level. Kids relate to kids!
#whitmanwtps
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In reply to @raspberryberet3
CandyMaxwell13
Oct 16 @ 7:41 PM EDT
I feel like Ss feedback would be easier in older grade levels
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drangelapeery
Oct 16 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Have you seen the video of Sara, a kindergartner, discussing writing rubrics? Amazing! Was put out by a Canadian ed group.
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In reply to @kenzieeehayley
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Q2 will be up in a minute!
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BKd204Sci
Oct 16 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Feedback can be symbols, hand signs, other non-verb forms or verbal communication
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In reply to @kenzieeehayley
kenzieeehayley
Oct 16 @ 7:42 PM EDT
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k students are just learning how to do their own work, and it is hard for them to be able to provide feedback constructively
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:42 PM EDT
It does & so worth it, been doing station rotations in class, Ss are really enjoying it, peer teaching, lots of prep worth it
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In reply to @MsJdickinson
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:42 PM EDT
agreed! Sometimes easier to get FB from our peers instead of teacher.
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In reply to @HerrAndersonWT
LScumpieru
Oct 16 @ 7:42 PM EDT
This made me think of
@Flipgrid
emoji comments that Ss can give. Simple, but powerful.
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:41 PM EDT
yes, it can be a challenge - I used to do emojis to start.
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In reply to @kenzieeehayley
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Modeling for Ss, giving opps for Ss to interact, collaborate via
@mssackstein
see her book"Peer feedback in the Classroom"
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CandyMaxwell13
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
If you start early enough in a child’s education, it would make it easier for him/her to give feedback as he/she ages
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robblackston
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
@CandyMaxwell13
You're right. In fact, my students really get into it.
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Love this gif! I like how you bring up giving good feedback as a benefit in addition to a challenge!
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In reply to @gvtechteach
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
How do you help them to start?
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:)
In reply to @kenzieeehayley
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Thanks for joining Brian!
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In reply to @BKd204Sci
BKd204Sci
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Ss listen better to each other, at times, than they do Ts Its a logical fit
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In reply to @HerrAndersonWT, @raspberryberet3
JayWigmore
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Sorry I’m late. Will try and catch up. Jason, teaching Mesia Literacy/tech to gr1-3
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Q2
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#stuvoice
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us!
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In reply to @HerrAndersonWT
HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Angela, please share! I'm intrigued!
#whitmanwtps
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In reply to @drangelapeery, @kenzieeehayley
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
Yes, please!
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In reply to @LScumpieru, @Flipgrid
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
I really enjoy the time to move around, Ss doing diff activ, giving fdbk and I can personalize more,
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In reply to @MsJdickinson, @LScumpieru
drangelapeery
Oct 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A1: All students can use peer feedback if we start it in a structured, safe way and model, model, model.
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LaPucelle32
Oct 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
Liz - sci/sped teacher Rochester ny
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
I was thinking of that too, would be a great way to get them involved and build on it
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In reply to @raspberryberet3, @kenzieeehayley
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
Hey Jason!!! Thanks for joining us tonight!
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JayWigmore
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Sorry I’m late. Will try and catch up. Jason, teaching Mesia Literacy/tech to gr1-3
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LScumpieru
Oct 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A2: Supply a rubric that they can refer to and then have them use some of the language to describe comments and questions.
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Q2
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#stuvoice
HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A1 drawback: if grades are involved, peer sabotage due to competitiveness among Ss.
#whitmanwtps
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BKd204Sci
Oct 16 @ 7:44 PM EDT
Like anything the earlier experiences start the more fluent Ss will be in long run
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In reply to @CandyMaxwell13
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
Great point Shelly! It's natural for people to learn through looking into the experiences of others
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In reply to @raspberryberet3
robblackston
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
small group discussion in an informal, yet structured way
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goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
Great point Shelly! It's natural for people to learn through looking into the experiences of others
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In reply to @raspberryberet3
BrianDunleavy16
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
A2 quality rubrics help guide Ss and examples. I walkthrough how feedback should look and model it for them to start
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masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
Q2 Teachers need to model positive feedback to show Ss how to give feedback to peers
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#whitmanwtps
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
Agreed, love those options from
@Flipgrid
I use them and have seen the Ss starting to do so as well
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In reply to @LScumpieru, @Flipgrid, @Flipgrid
drangelapeery
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
I can't for the life of me find it! I'm looking....
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In reply to @HerrAndersonWT, @kenzieeehayley
JoveStickel
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
A2 modeling practicing, starting simple and building in more advanced feedback. We also have to monitor and provide guidance
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
A2: give exemplars & model process as a class; have Ss paired up to give feedback to sample work first.
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WexfordHomeSch
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
I ask my kid's to try and share an example of their work they have completed and share their understanding with each other
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CandyMaxwell13
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
A2: T should lead the group & start it as an open forum with the class. T can monitor Ss and see which are more engaged
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LaPucelle32
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
A1: teach students how to see like the teacher sees. Value craftsmanship Finding the time for this is hard but crucial
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
Hi Liz!
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In reply to @LaPucelle32
SusZanti5
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
A2: Model & teach the giving/receiving of effective feedback, show kids the social/working agreements of FB-include kindness
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gvtechteach
Oct 16 @ 7:45 PM EDT
A2: Give then a rubric or some guidelines so they aren't flapping in the wind. This is a simple one
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
A2 Ask Ss questions, interact with small grps, ask for Ss to share what fdbk they gave/received and talk abt it
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HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
Not trying to be a negative nelly by any means, but I definitely experienced this when teaching AP German.
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#whitmanwtps
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
A2: I use a "met", "approaching", and "not met" with Ss against learning goals/success criteria
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MsJdickinson
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
I do too!
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In reply to @JayLang_
VipulaSharma1
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
A2:
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a clear & shared understanding of what success looks / sounds like and action that can be taken for improvements
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
Great idea, having a list with descriptors of how to start, will help
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In reply to @LScumpieru
504bayou
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
teach students strategies and have them share their strategies and give/model positive feedback
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Q2
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#stuvoice
goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
Q2 is now up in
#formativechat
! How can you support students in providing effective peer feedback? What strategies do you share with them?
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:43 PM EDT
Q2
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#stuvoice
masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
Q2 a strategy is to be present when feedback is happening to ensure they are giving each other proper feedback
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#whitmanwtps
BKd204Sci
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
Ive had Ss give feedback & assess each other Building solid norms can prevent sabotage
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In reply to @HerrAndersonWT
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
A2: Ss complete work on chart paper; give all Ss post it notes and jot down FB and stick on the chart paper.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
Hearing a lot of rubrics/modeling, these are key for trying new methods, building comfort & confidence
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In reply to @BrianDunleavy16
LScumpieru
Oct 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
Great words that are understandable to many levels and grades.
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raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:46 PM EDT
A2: I use a "met", "approaching", and "not met" with Ss against learning goals/success criteria
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gvtechteach
Oct 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
love it!!
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In reply to @504bayou
goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A2: Here's a great strategy from
@aliceleung
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masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A2 using padlet as a tool to share feedback, teacher can point out which feedback is helpful
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#whitmanwtps
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A2: teach Ss difference b/w success criteria and task requirements. Key to effective, relevant, and valid feedback.
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JayWigmore
Oct 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A2: Model, model, model. Lots of time to discuss and question the criteria and feedback
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HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
Don't get me wrong; it didn't stop me, but it forced me to establish ground rules and Ss' mutual appreciation of each other
#formativechat
In reply to @BKd204Sci
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
Love this point, including kindness, modeling ways to provide fdbk that might be felt as -, but shouldnt, helping to grow
#formativechat
In reply to @SusZanti5
drangelapeery
Oct 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
Here it is, folks -- kindergarten formative assessment! Sarah!
https://t.co/t60qvklZwC
#formativechat
tcondon2013
Oct 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
A2 crucial issue. Need to develop an environment that questions, evaluates, and is open to fb/discuss. Most wkplaces don't
#formativechat
MsJdickinson
Oct 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
A2: I have students highlight SBG rubric and write evidence for the score. Used for editing drafts, presentations ,etc
#formativechat
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
And having the opp to move around and listen/interact, and guide when needed is so beneficial
#formativechat
In reply to @masso_jodi
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
A2: when Ss are presenting, each S gives them 1 star, 1 wish - @ end they have an entire list of FB from # of Ss in class.
#formativechat
KatieWhite426
Oct 16 @ 7:48 PM EDT
A2: Co-constructed criteria, student goals, meaningful work (to kids) = students who are interested in feedback
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
yes - discussing the criteria is important so everyone is on the same page.
#formativechat
In reply to @JayWigmore
IdeaShopPD
Oct 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
A1 keep peer feedback appreciative. No coulda woulda shoulda. Focus on success criteria that’s being hit.
#formativechat
goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
Our last Q is coming up in
#formativechat
!
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
I love how versatile
@padlet
is, can be used for so many things, lots of ways to include for FA, discussions, crowdsourcing
#formativechat
In reply to @masso_jodi, @padlet
MsJdickinson
Oct 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
A2: Also use critical friends protocol.
#formativechat
masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
#formativechat
#whitmanwtps
goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:47 PM EDT
A2: Here's a great strategy from
@aliceleung
#formativechat
LaPucelle32
Oct 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
A2: establish norms, look at exemplars together, establish common vocab through word walls and sentence starters
#formativechat
JayLang_
Oct 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
A2: S start with coming up with 3 positive things before they can focus on negatives.
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:49 PM EDT
A2: oral FB through turn/talk, inside/outside circles, etc..
#formativechat
drangelapeery
Oct 16 @ 7:50 PM EDT
A2: The best way to teach students to give helpful, kind feedback is to do that unfailingly as a teacher.
#formativechat
gvtechteach
Oct 16 @ 7:50 PM EDT
simple, but effective
#formativechat
In reply to @pollack_hannah4
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:50 PM EDT
I just read about this recently, having those critical friends, great point
#formativechat
In reply to @MsJdickinson
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:50 PM EDT
A2: Ss can blog as well to give FB; do other Ss agree? Why or why not?
#formativechat
kispypniko
Oct 16 @ 7:50 PM EDT
A2 my favorite protocols for feedback
https://t.co/MhGGfQkAvS
#formativechat
LaPucelle32
Oct 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
A2: praise- question-suggest protocol is powerful
#formativechat
https://t.co/olqH6dTtpn
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
Q3 coming up!
#formativechat
BKd204Sci
Oct 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
I agree w/you & went thru that, just sharing how I worked around that issue
#formativechat
In reply to @HerrAndersonWT
HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
A2 Ts establishing norms for respectful critique after creating an environment of learning!
#formativechat
#whitmanwtps
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
Some of my Ss have referred to the sandwich model ;) and also can give 1 to grow on, 1 to glow and 1 to go,
#formativechat
In reply to @JayLang_
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
I like this idea! If some Ss are giving good peer feedback, you can encourage others to learn from them
#formativechat
In reply to @CandyMaxwell13
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
A2: FB Ss give each other needs close monitoring at first
#formativechat
KatieWhite426
Oct 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
A2: Teach students that strong feedback starts with questions, not advice. Ex. What were you hoping to do? How did you plan?
#formativechat
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:51 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing that Niko, great resources
#formativechat
In reply to @kispypniko
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:52 PM EDT
Q3 is up
#formativechat
MsJdickinson
Oct 16 @ 7:52 PM EDT
It gives you a framework so that you don't get defensive and hopefully will bring out some new information!
#formativechat
In reply to @Rdene915
WexfordHomeSch
Oct 16 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A2 Another I use is divide into small critique group & discuss what they enjoyed - found hard - discuss how to improve
#formativechat
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 7:52 PM EDT
Jim checking in LATE from Sao Paulo, Brazil. Sorry, working on some assessments. HA!
#formativechat
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:52 PM EDT
Every week this chat is so fast and full of awesome ideas, thanks everyone!!
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:52 PM EDT
A2: also the sandwhich approach - 1 postive, 1 wish, 1 positive.
#formativechat
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:53 PM EDT
can also encourage Ss to ask questions like "I wonder" "what if" or similar, to help Ss to think beyond and prob solve
#formativechat
In reply to @KatieWhite426
JoveStickel
Oct 16 @ 7:53 PM EDT
A3 it’s has to be meaningful and for this to happen a culture of Respect and trust must be developed among Participants
#formativechat
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:53 PM EDT
I think it's important to bring up.Peers can have a lot of sway over how learners interpret things.It's important to guide it
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In reply to @HerrAndersonWT
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:53 PM EDT
Well you are definitely focused, ;) welcome Jim!!
#formativechat
In reply to @heisterj
BKd204Sci
Oct 16 @ 7:53 PM EDT
A3 When possible using
#CER
& having Ss feedback be part of reasoning would be a start
#formativechat
In reply to @raspberryberet3
JayWigmore
Oct 16 @ 7:53 PM EDT
A3: Make it meaningful, consistent and relevant. Then it becomes a natural part of their learning
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:52 PM EDT
Q3 is up
#formativechat
VipulaSharma1
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A3:
#formativechat
create conditions where any suggestions for improvement made can actually be acted upon with more support & guidance
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A3: Ss explicitly need to state how they used FB on their next pieces of work.
#reflect
#formativechat
#stuvoice
KatieWhite426
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A3: As part of learning Ss explain which feedback they applied and which they didn’t and why. Part of self-assessment
#formativechat
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
You said it way better than me ;) I just said sandwich :)
#formativechat
In reply to @raspberryberet3
JayLang_
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A2: T’s establishing early in school year the importance of the growth mindset.
#formativechat
LScumpieru
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A3: Have them reflect on what peer feedback was most useful and why.
#formativechat
HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Once that is established, Ss freer with their thoughts and more open to taking chances with their learning!
#whitmanwtps
#formativechat
goformative
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Last Q is now up in
#formativechat
! How do you ensure that peer feedback is impacting S learning?
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:52 PM EDT
Q3 is up
#formativechat
BrianDunleavy16
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A3 Make connections before and after feedback is given to have Ss continue learning. Bring up lookfors throughout the unit
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masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A3 We assess what sort of (if any) change is happening to Ss work
#formativechat
#whitmanwtps
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Definitely starts with building the climate and culture in class, support, trust, relationships, then move fwd
#formativechat
In reply to @JoveStickel
tcondon2013
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A3 Not sure? Is pf quantitative or more often qualitative ... not always measurable
#formativechat
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A1-Peer fb is invaluable if done right. Ss need to be guided at first then let free as it becomes culture of the class
#formativechat
D4Griffin3
Oct 16 @ 7:55 PM EDT
A3)
#AustinsButterfly
is a great example
https://t.co/OxJudgCrk3
#formativechat
kenzieeehayley
Oct 16 @ 7:55 PM EDT
#formativechat
#whitmanwtps
what do you do when k students give negative emojis to provide students with feedback? K students take risks
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
Be sure to grow your
#PLN
tonight by following some new educators from
#formativechat
kenzieeehayley
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
and I would hate for them to be discouraged to try and take risks, especially in writing.
#whitmanwtps
#formativechat
SusZanti5
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
A1: Peer FB is invaluable-benefits=sharing both process of learning & providing FB-challenges-giving/receiving FB effectively
#formativechat
LScumpieru
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
Love this.
@lahanks76
showed this last year in the county. Excellent for Ss to see when talking about feedback.
#formativechat
D4Griffin3
Oct 16 @ 7:55 PM EDT
A3)
#AustinsButterfly
is a great example
https://t.co/OxJudgCrk3
#formativechat
KatieWhite426
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
A3: Guarantee TIME and a process for applying feedback. This is a decision-making skill and needs attention.
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
not a grade/number assigned when it's assessment for learning.
#formativechat
In reply to @tcondon2013
LaPucelle32
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
A3: trying something new this week- letting student body vote and provide feedback on student work.
#formativechat
IdeaShopPD
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
A3 nothing is more motivating than success. Kids celebrating each other’s success inspires them to do better.
#formativechat
mssackstein
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
Empowering Students to Provide Peer Feedback - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/EsbFGqWyij
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
What about a wand emoji for "wish"?
#formativechat
In reply to @kenzieeehayley
Skymazef3
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
#formativechat
a2 Ss are so used to x factor that a panel of 5 judges works well on assessing & feedback
#aussieed
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:57 PM EDT
Yes, giving that authentic fdbk, help Ss to work together, and give relevant and timely as well
#formativechat
In reply to @JayWigmore
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:57 PM EDT
A3: Ask Ss to reflect upon what their peers tell them. What they have confirmed, respectfully disagree with,+ have Q's about
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:57 PM EDT
how about focusing on habits of mind first?
#formativechat
In reply to @kenzieeehayley
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 7:57 PM EDT
A2-Ts need to model effective fb when we give it to our Ss. Ss will learn by our example. 1/2
#formativechat
HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:57 PM EDT
A3 informal observation, conferencing with students, Ss share out to the large group
#formativechat
#whitmanwtps
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:57 PM EDT
Great idea as well, works on critical thinking and continues the growth process
#formativechat
In reply to @KatieWhite426
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:58 PM EDT
So glad that you could join us for a bit!
#formativechat
In reply to @heisterj
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:58 PM EDT
Hi Dennis, thanks for joining!
#formativechat
In reply to @D4Griffin3
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:58 PM EDT
30 minutes flies by!!
#formativechat
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 7:58 PM EDT
A2- 2/2 If we give shallow fb as an example, our Ss will give shallow peer fb. Ss follow our lead so lead wisely.
#formativechat
mssackstein
Oct 16 @ 7:58 PM EDT
Absolutely
#formativechat
IdeaShopPD
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
A3 nothing is more motivating than success. Kids celebrating each other’s success inspires them to do better.
#formativechat
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Teachable moments, always a risk but they have to be able to say why, that's the tough part sometimes
#formativechat
In reply to @kenzieeehayley
JayWigmore
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
All so important, but I am finding more and more that the timely piece seems to make the most impact!
#formativechat
In reply to @Rdene915
specialtechie
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
#formativechat
Jump over to
#LearnLAP
starting now. :)
masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
#formativechat
#whitmanwtps
masso_jodi
Oct 16 @ 7:57 PM EDT
A3 with practice the Ss will be naturals my 5th grade Ss more involved with classroom discussions since starting FB this year
JoveStickel
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Thanks for a great chat everyone so motivated and excited for tomorrow.
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Thanks to everyone who came out for
#formativechat
- had a great time guest hosting! See you next week!
#stuvoice
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Hi Starr! Thanks for joining in
#formativechat
great conversation on peer feedback!
In reply to @mssackstein
IdeaShopPD
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Great article by John Hattie in
@ASCD
magazine Ed leadership. Sept 2012. “Know Thy Impact”. References peer feedback.
#formativechat
HerrAndersonWT
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Such a positive, thoughtful observation! I concur!
#whitmanwtps
#formativechat
In reply to @IdeaShopPD
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Great point to bring up.
#formativechat
In reply to @KatieWhite426
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:00 PM EDT
And setting it up that it is ok to disagree, it is about the respect, open conversation, and having reasons to help others
#formativechat
In reply to @davidwkwan
Skymazef3
Oct 16 @ 8:00 PM EDT
#formativechat
a3 Ss volunteer what new thing they noticed. Better posture, more linguistics, more relaxed. It always has impact.
#aussieed
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 8:00 PM EDT
This is when their and our fb can become even more meaningful. Learning is not always done at the board.
#formativechat
In reply to @Rdene915, @MsJdickinson, @LScumpieru
WexfordHomeSch
Oct 16 @ 8:00 PM EDT
A3 This is where I step in and chat with them about how they feel about the feedback they received and their next steps
#formativechat
mssackstein
Oct 16 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Always glad when this conversation happens
#formativechat
In reply to @Rdene915
kispypniko
Oct 16 @ 8:01 PM EDT
A3 effectiveness usually visible and audible, more evident during next assignment and in their own reflection
#formativechat
goformative
Oct 16 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Modeling feedback is a great strategy for promoting eff. peer feedback!
#formativechat
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 7:57 PM EDT
A2-Ts need to model effective fb when we give it to our Ss. Ss will learn by our example. 1/2
#formativechat
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Totally true and sometimes it is later in the day, processing the fdbk and reflecting too
#formativechat
In reply to @heisterj, @MsJdickinson, @LScumpieru
SusZanti5
Oct 16 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Thank you for the great chat, and time learning together, have a terrific tomorrow!
#formativechat
thanks
@raspberryberet3
504bayou
Oct 16 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Have a great week! I enjoyed the
#formativechat
#stuvoice
c y'all
In reply to @raspberryberet3
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:02 PM EDT
See you all next week! Thanks to
@raspberryberet3
and
@davidwkwan
#formativechat
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Can also build on prior fdbk, ask Ss to think abt fdbk they gave/received and apply it to new task, does it change anything
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Feel free to continue the conversation & follow the great educators you met tonight!
#formativechat
gvtechteach
Oct 16 @ 8:02 PM EDT
A3: You have to give them a chance to reflect on the impact they give
#formativechat
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Thanks for joining in Susan! Seeya next time!
#formativechat
In reply to @SusZanti5, @raspberryberet3
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 8:02 PM EDT
you're welcome Susan! Thanks for participating!
#formativechat
In reply to @SusZanti5
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Maybe doing gallery walks, Ss paired up and find a way to have them look for 1 thing specifically they think is done well?
#formativechat
In reply to @kenzieeehayley
goformative
Oct 16 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Thank you
@raspberryberet3
for guest hosting
#formativechat
! Great Q's and thoughtful moderating!
JayLang_
Oct 16 @ 8:04 PM EDT
A3: return papers with no grade but with feedback. The can fix and resubmit. Lots of work but great gains!
#formativechat
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 8:04 PM EDT
A3-If a Ss uses only 1 piece of fb from 100, it is impacting their learning. Find that 1 piece and make it a cornerstone.
#formativechat
Rdene915
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Here is a great post on peer feedback to learn more strategies, see
#edchat
#formativechat
via
@mssackstein
mssackstein
Oct 16 @ 7:56 PM EDT
Empowering Students to Provide Peer Feedback - Work in Progress - Education Week Teacher
https://t.co/EsbFGqWyij
#formativechat
IdeaShopPD
Oct 16 @ 8:05 PM EDT
I will often lift examples from our appreciative feedback Hall of Fame! Kids need examples of make it precise.
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 8:06 PM EDT
my pleasure, David!
#formativechat
In reply to @davidwkwan, @SusZanti5
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 8:06 PM EDT
thanks for the opportunity!
#formativechat
In reply to @goformative
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Great way to see if they are internalizing peer fb.
#formativechat
In reply to @davidwkwan
goformative
Oct 16 @ 8:06 PM EDT
So awesome to hear! Got get 'em!
#formativechat
In reply to @JoveStickel
JoveStickel
Oct 16 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Thanks for a great chat everyone so motivated and excited for tomorrow.
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 8:07 PM EDT
lol -
#formativechat
In reply to @Rdene915
BKd204Sci
Oct 16 @ 8:07 PM EDT
The ease of giving feedback via Google has made that process more collaborative
#formativechat
#LearnLAP
In reply to @emilyfranESL
goformative
Oct 16 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Definitely! You are super welcome!
#formativechat
In reply to @raspberryberet3
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 8:08 PM EDT
definitely!
#formativechat
In reply to @Rdene915, @kenzieeehayley
kwildehealey
Oct 16 @ 8:08 PM EDT
So bad at the
#formativechat
game lately... boarding doors closing!!! Can't live the chat life like I want these days; catch up eventually
MissDott_
Oct 16 @ 8:08 PM EDT
#formativechat
I was early logging on and not late! But after reading all the suggestions I am going to implement this with my Ss writing.
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 7:52 PM EDT
Q3 is up
#formativechat
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 8:08 PM EDT
you're welcome!
#formativechat
In reply to @davidwkwan
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Thank you
@raspberryberet3
for leading another great
#formativechat
. Glad I could at least make some of the chat live.
heisterj
Oct 16 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Yes! Just because it doesn't come back out immediately does not mean the fb has not been internalized.
#formativechat
In reply to @Rdene915, @MsJdickinson, @LScumpieru
raspberryberet3
Oct 16 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Glad you could too, Jim!
#formativechat
In reply to @heisterj
