#IOLchat Archive
#IOLchat meets Wednesdays at 12PM ET to discuss trends and issues in online education.
Wednesday August 17, 2016
12:00 PM EDT
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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! Who is joining in today?
philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:02 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
paul with Shaw U. joining for
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today, Aug. 17
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:02 PM EDT
@philosophypaul
Hello, Paul! Great to see you. :) Has your fall semester started, yet?
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:03 PM EDT
Hello
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.. Jennifer - adjunct from Atlanta.
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:04 PM EDT
@jshamsy
Hello, Jennifer! Thanks for joining in during this busy end-of-the-summer season. :)
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:04 PM EDT
Hello from Colin Easom with Pima Medical Institute Online
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:04 PM EDT
@ceasom
Hello there, Colin! How is everything going this week?
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:05 PM EDT
I'll be popping in and out today :)
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AssignmentHelpN
Aug 17 @ 12:05 PM EDT
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:05 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Going well, thanks! Busy as usual. You?
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:06 PM EDT
@ceasom
;) Glad you can be here. Feeling like the days are definitely full!
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:06 PM EDT
OMG
@jshamsy
and
@ceasom
present in the same
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? It's a miracle! ;)
jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:07 PM EDT
@ceasom
Well I am half a person today...and it sounds like you are really busy -- so together we equal just 1 attendant =)
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:07 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Absolutely..great topic! It will be interesting to see what everyone thinks!
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:08 PM EDT
@philosophypaul
Hi Paul...getting ready to start another semester?
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:09 PM EDT
Let's get rolling with today's topic! "Video and Online Courses." Q coming up ...
#edtech
#video
#onlinelearning
#onlineteaching
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:10 PM EDT
Q1) How is video currently used in your online course(s)?
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:12 PM EDT
A1) I used to use a lot but have cut down - takes a lot of time to make and found most don't view it anyway
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:12 PM EDT
A1) Depends on if we are talking about prof. videos from other sources or home made
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:13 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
A1 Using video as resource for content review, recorded T & S meeting, or training for class like tours
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:13 PM EDT
@jshamsy
Interesting! What kinds of things did you decide to keep (or cut)?
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:13 PM EDT
A1) We're lucky to have a multimedia specialist on staff so we use custom video content in our courses, usually to explain concepts
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:13 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Instead of intro for every module..now I maybe do one at the beginning and end
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:13 PM EDT
@jshamsy
It's all fair game with this topic - video intros, tutorials, custom made, links to other sources ...
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:14 PM EDT
I also use a short talking-head approach and create YouTuve videos for lesson intro and wrap up
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:14 PM EDT
@philosophypaul
Ooh! Can you tell us more about the recorded meetings and training tours? Inquiring minds...
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:15 PM EDT
@ceasom
That is a great resource! Who decides a video is needed? Or do you have a set approach in the course design?
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:16 PM EDT
@jshamsy
That makes sense. I can see where it would make a difference with students at those two points. Do you record each term?
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:17 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Training tours may be a tour of a gradebook or a rubric. Recorded mtgs are videos of synchronous mtgs -- Zoom
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:17 PM EDT
@ceasom
I think this is important...students seem to get pickier with the quality of the video .. expecting bells and whistles
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:17 PM EDT
@ceasom
Do you find there's an optimum length for these intros/outros? (I have so many questions!)
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:18 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Sometimes I try to reuse .. but that gets difficult if you want to personalize at all.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:18 PM EDT
@philosophypaul
Brilliant! Thx for the added detail. Training tour idea sounds helpful. My students also expect recorded grp mtgs
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:19 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Our ID team works with SMEs to determine where videos are best. We utilize student feedback, add vids if requested.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:20 PM EDT
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Welcome
@jmm140
! Are these to cover content, provide your intro?
https://t.co/8f8FU6JoAL
jmm140
Aug 17 @ 12:14 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I created a series of interactive economics videos in Adobe Captivate. Embed in moodle to monitor activity. Still refining.
philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:20 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Reply; Recorded grp mtgs good for review and for those missing. Training does help answer FAQs on some items
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:21 PM EDT
@ceasom
Sounds like an organized effort - and efficient! Student feedback can be really helpful here, too.
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:21 PM EDT
@jmm140
@CenterOnlineEd
W interactive videos in Moodle do these function like Moodle lessons perhaps?
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:22 PM EDT
@jshamsy
True that! We tend to use interactive videos too to keep them engaged
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:22 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
@jmm140
This is a good way to "see" what the students are actually doing - analytics
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:23 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Definitely! I try to keep videos to under two minutes. 60 seconds are preferable.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:23 PM EDT
@philosophypaul
@CenterOnlineEd
Training doesn't solve it all..may be other ways to address these issues with other methods too!
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:24 PM EDT
@jshamsy
@philosophypaul
Agreed! These videos could be a starting point for students' troubleshooting. And don't need freq updates?
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:25 PM EDT
@ceasom
That's a reasonable timeframe. Keep it focused and to the point!
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:26 PM EDT
Yes, training not panacea. Still training may be formative assessment w backward design for SLO dvmt
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:23 PM EDT
@philosophypaul
@CenterOnlineEd
Training doesn't solve it all..may be other ways to address these issues with other methods too!
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:27 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I am popping in over lunch! :) I love video and use tons.
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:27 PM EDT
@ceasom
@CenterOnlineEd
Time: one to five ideal. Too many crickets w long lectures
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:27 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I use video for my welcome announcement. Great way to motivate and to reassure. Students need human face/voice.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:27 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
Hello, Karen! Please tell us more about your video use. :)
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:28 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@CenterOnlineEd
Tell us more -- best, worst, advice
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:28 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I also created a YouTube Channel this year to organize my video tutorials, mostly screencasts on course content.
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:29 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@CenterOnlineEd
Connect w video intro. Yes. 4 min investment for semester connect
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:29 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
Intros are great! Do you record new ones each term or some reuse? Reassurance is a perfect word here.
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:29 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
YouTube channel top 3 things I've done in my teaching. Time investment up front but saves TONS of time later.
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:30 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Okay, if you all remember nothing else: make your videos LAST.
#sustainableteaching
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:30 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I used to mention dates and specifics. Then would have to redo all videos each term. Craziness! Don't do that. :)
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:30 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@philosophypaul
It's definitely a topic with LOTS of questions ;)
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:31 PM EDT
Great advice for creating your own video!
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https://t.co/gjY9pU93gD
karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:30 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Okay, if you all remember nothing else: make your videos LAST.
#sustainableteaching
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:31 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I usually do a module overview, DB tutorial, and tutorials on any other assignments each week. b/t 4-5 vids.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:31 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@CenterOnlineEd
Yes I agree..I think this is the most beneficial and may be all that you use it for in the course
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:32 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Remember, vids aren't inherently engaging. Your presentation style matters here. Be MORE enthusiastic than usual.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:32 PM EDT
@jshamsy
@karenraycosta
4-5 videos per module?
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:33 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I like to say the camera eats your energy. Videos can feel flat if you don't add some energy.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:33 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@CenterOnlineEd
Do you monitor to see if students actually watch? I found a lot of them didn't
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:33 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@CenterOnlineEd
So, would Ss in your class anticipate a weekly video? Be disappointed otherwise?
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:33 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
@jshamsy
Yes. About 5 minutes each. Upfront time investment and now I just roll them term to term.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:34 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
@karenraycosta
I think there is a possibility of getting "video-ed out"..just like with text -- a balance perhaps
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:34 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@jshamsy
Really, really, really like the idea of "assignment videos" - clarify expectations, where to find info.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:34 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@CenterOnlineEd
I agree..the more you can reuse the better!
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:34 PM EDT
Good advice. Double enthusiasm for you may be heard as just right.
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:32 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Remember, vids aren't inherently engaging. Your presentation style matters here. Be MORE enthusiastic than usual.
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:35 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
@jshamsy
OMG I need this for myself. I try to translate from what's on the page into "real" talk.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:35 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@CenterOnlineEd
Do you caption for ADA compliance? I find that takes the longest =(
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:37 PM EDT
If you don't have at least some screen presence, no worries. Do an audio only screencast or Powtoon instead.
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:37 PM EDT
Captioning so impt. For streamlining process begin w script. then embed
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:35 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@CenterOnlineEd
Do you caption for ADA compliance? I find that takes the longest =(
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:38 PM EDT
MT
@philosophypaul
Captioning-streamlining process begin w script. then embed
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https://t.co/sZLywRy8Ik
jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:35 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@CenterOnlineEd
Do you caption for ADA compliance? I find that takes the longest =(
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:39 PM EDT
On the topic of scripts, I don't recommend using one. It can cause "deer in headlights" syndrome. But do what works for you.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:39 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
Screencasts do take away anxiety of being "on camera." Could be a good way to get started.
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:39 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
FYI I use
@ScreenFlow
for most of my videos. Great on Mac.
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:40 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Engaging videos can also be made "in the wild" using phone. Take students on virtual fieldtrips.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:41 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
I write a script, but then don't read it. My thought process always starts with writing. ;) "Talking points" help.
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:41 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
Scripts for Ss No for me for a training module on gradebook yes. Lets me get the CC done fast :) What works
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:42 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
@ScreenFlow
Thanks for the tip! Will check this out.
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:42 PM EDT
@periscopetv
is a great resource for the in the wild recording
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https://t.co/UocVnI1JPY
karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:40 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Engaging videos can also be made "in the wild" using phone. Take students on virtual fieldtrips.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:44 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
I have to at least have an outline or I just go on and on about nothing =(
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:44 PM EDT
@jshamsy
@karenraycosta
Exactly! Me, too. Ramble, ramble, ramble ...
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:44 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Another imp. note: if you make a "mistake" keep going. Mistakes are humanizing. Be natural.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:45 PM EDT
@philosophypaul
So many new tech tools..there are lots of possibilities
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:45 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Some fac. start over if they misspeak once or twice. Will take so long to make videos this way. Not sustainable.
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:46 PM EDT
@jshamsy
@karenraycosta
I use a post-it with main points pinned immediately next to by webcam ;) Teleprompt, anyone?
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:46 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
Definitely a comfort and confidence level here, to just going for it. Providing good examples to fac. might help.
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:47 PM EDT
Many new tools. Your purpose drives effective use.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:45 PM EDT
@philosophypaul
So many new tech tools..there are lots of possibilities
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:47 PM EDT
@ceasom
Great tip. Reminds you to keep eye contact too. That's a big issue I see, people reading from bottom of screen.
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:47 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
And takes time. Allow yourself to be a beginner. With practice you'll get better and better.
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:48 PM EDT
Ss relate to real video w occasional mistake human not talking head
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:44 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Another imp. note: if you make a "mistake" keep going. Mistakes are humanizing. Be natural.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:48 PM EDT
+1
#edtech
#video
RT
@karenraycosta
And takes time. Allow yourself to be a beginner. With practice you'll get better and better.
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:50 PM EDT
@ceasom
@karenraycosta
That's a great idea!
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:51 PM EDT
Is anyone using video tools in LMS to give assignment feedback?
#onlineteaching
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karenraycosta
Aug 17 @ 12:51 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Thanks as always. Off to hang with my son. Have a great week all.
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ceasom
Aug 17 @ 12:51 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
A couple of our instructors used screen capture to work thru assignments and provide feedback
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:52 PM EDT
@karenraycosta
Thanks for sharing your ideas and experience today! Have a great week. :)
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:52 PM EDT
@ceasom
That may even be better - walk through the Ss submission while it's on screen.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:54 PM EDT
Is anyone working with assignments that are submitted as video created by students?
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:55 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Yes..used jing to record feedback for term papers once..took a lot of time...didn't track to see if they watched it
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:56 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I have a multi-media presentation assignment - they can use video. Takes a long time to watch/grade - subjective
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:56 PM EDT
@jshamsy
I can see where it would be time consuming. Class size would be a factor to consider!
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philosophypaul
Aug 17 @ 12:56 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Use AdobeConnect to record live on screen S presentation. Recordings of pjcts. shared
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:57 PM EDT
@jshamsy
Interesting! I have a video practice activity - it should be worth more points given the time it takes them to prep.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 17 @ 12:58 PM EDT
Great idea! RT
@philosophypaul
Use AdobeConnect to record live on screen S presentation. Recordings of pjcts. shared
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jshamsy
Aug 17 @ 12:59 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I can imagine...it is always the little technical glitches or figuring out something that takes a lot of time
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