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Monday March 6, 2017
8:00 PM EST
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Mar 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Good evening and welcome to
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. Tonight we're discussing Increasing Student Motivation. Please take a moment to intro yourself.
OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Good evening. Alex Newsom here from Richmond Public Schools
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Lots of questions tonight. If you wanna' sneak peak
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Thanks for joining us tonight
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In reply to @OnMy_AGame
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
We're going to get right to the questions tonight. Question 1 coming right up
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
Q1: What role does motivation play in relation to student success or failure?
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Motivation is, I believe, essential to success. I'm a firm believer that a person's best efforts come from something intrinsic a1
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: Without motivation all learning is superficial and vice-versa
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philgriffins
Mar 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
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A1: for a section of the student population, little... For another segment, huge
OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
couldn't agree more
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
Why do you think so?
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CardwellTeachMe
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Michala from Virginia Beach. Just getting home and joining in! Excited about our topic.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Join
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going on right NOW as we discuss Increasing Student Motivation
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Thanks for joining us!
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In reply to @CardwellTeachMe
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
Q2:
@DanielPink
talks about the power of autonomy, mastery, and purpose in motivation. How can we promote these?
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MrBrianRI
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
A1 Motivation and grit is essential in getting kids reach goals with clear expectations & reflection
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sarahdateechur
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
Hi
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, Sarah here. Live in Woodbridge and work in MD.
CardwellTeachMe
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
A1: Motivation and interest drive students learning. Without it, they are doing rote memorization that means nothing to them.
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philgriffins
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
some students will find success in school no matter what. Those that have to work at it need motivation to be successful
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In reply to @OnMy_AGame
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
Good to have you with us...been a while since we've connected
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In reply to @sarahdateechur
MrBrianRI
Mar 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2 Promote through classroom systems that are clear and engaging and help students understand where we are and where we're going
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sarahdateechur
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2
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It's important to provide support and trust. I learned yesterday at
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that support looks different for everyone.
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2: All three (autonomy, mastery, purpose) speak to the importance of student choice
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sarahdateechur
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
Thanks Reed! Glad to see you again!
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
That's an issue that goes back to something you said
@rggillespie
without a perceived purpose, learning becomes superficial a2
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CardwellTeachMe
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2: Ss need opportunities to lead their own learning; including growing their individual levels of autonomy, mastery, and purpose.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2: We need to start off with WHY in everything we teach and expect students to learn. Have to "sell" its importance/value
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
Giving s' autonomy is important in their learning too. This can be promoted via problem based/inquirty based learning activities a2
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
Totally agree! How can we best accomplish this?
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CardwellTeachMe
Mar 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2: Ss need opportunities to lead their own learning; including growing their individual levels of autonomy, mastery, and purpose.
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Mar 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
I'm seeing the pendulum swing this way. Can no longer blame standardization and mandated curriculum
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In reply to @OnMy_AGame
OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
I agree. I guess one concern I have is what to do with students who may become unmotivated even when school has always been easy. a1
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philgriffins
Mar 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
some students will find success in school no matter what. Those that have to work at it need motivation to be successful
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CardwellTeachMe
Mar 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
Providing multiple pathways for learning, demonstration of mastery & ensuring options for further study are available.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
Q3: What explains the drop in student engagement from ES to MS to HS? What can we do about it?
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
Isn't this just playing the game of school though and not really learning?
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In reply to @philgriffins, @OnMy_AGame
CardwellTeachMe
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
They should have opportunities to go beyond surface learning and into conceptual learning.
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philgriffins
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
now, that is a key question.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
Yes! 1 of my favorite strategie: tell Ss what you want them to learn and let them figure out how to learn & show it
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MrBrianRI
Mar 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3 I wonder if part of motivation drop is undiagnosed LDs and assigning and telling.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
Definitely it all starts with knowing your students
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bethcosta6
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
we have to 1st know kids and be curious abt them...their likes, their learning styles, and the root of their behaviors
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philgriffins
Mar 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
if the game is winnable with minimal effort... Motivation plays a minimal/nonexistent role.
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
No doubt. I'm always fearful about not pushing my accelerated students to their best potential.
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In reply to @CardwellTeachMe
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A3: Drop in engagement is directly linked with less opportunities for students to discover and explore as they progress
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CardwellTeachMe
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
Its a tough balance…I’ve been working on supporting my lower level Ss while ensuring growth opportunities for gifted Ss.
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In reply to @OnMy_AGame
bethcosta6
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
Q3: model and help students develop a growth mindset...learning is individual...don't compare themselves to others
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sarahdateechur
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A3
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Internal factors, such as puberty and peer pressure; external factors such as changing instructional strategies (less inquiry)
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
Focus on learning and the process. Not using grades to sort and compare students
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bethcosta6
Mar 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
Q3: model and help students develop a growth mindset...learning is individual...don't compare themselves to others
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
Sadly, the older s's become the less pertinent information learned in school becomes to them. a3
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philgriffins
Mar 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
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A3 everyone thinks they are an artist in K... By high school, so many have been convinced they aren't
OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
Instruction serves at the same level, however s's have a better distinction in whether what they are learning is authentic or not a3
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
Hadn't really thought of influence of peer pressure! We can change this and turn it into a positive. How?
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In reply to @sarahdateechur
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Q4: Which groups are least academically motivated in your school? Why? What can we do about it?
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
more forcing students to take classes which aren't interesting
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is exploring new diploma reqs.
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bethcosta6
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
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How about having as many classes as possible taught without assigning a level...e.g. HON, STD, etc
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sarahdateechur
Mar 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
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@rggillespie
Definitely! I'd say through teamwork and collaboration.
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Really? Interested to see what updated requirements would look like.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
more forcing students to take classes which aren't interesting
@VDOE_News
is exploring new diploma reqs.
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In reply to @OnMy_AGame, @VDOE_News
MrBrianRI
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A4 Students receiving special education. Have had limited success. Need to show them how to learn and model
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
@bethcosta6
Here it is...Now the hard part coming up with an answer
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
A4: Boys seem less motivated but is it just that girls want to please and are more complaint...not truly motivated?
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Groups as in...? Could you be more specific?
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jcbjr
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
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A3: Sorry I'm late (UCONN WBB). I'm pretty sure that it's less opportunity - too much sage on the stage. Maybe too many stand Tests.
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
Q3: What explains the drop in student engagement from ES to MS to HS? What can we do about it?
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Male-female. Ethnic/racial groups. Students with disabilities, etc.
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In reply to @OnMy_AGame
bethcosta6
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
do we truly design lrng with boys' needs in mind? Do they get to move, work together.. Imp for girls, too, but def boys
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
I would say typically s's with a disability suffer from the most severe lack of motivation. a4
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MrBrianRI
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A4 Great strategies to motivate boys read Boy Writers and Reading Don't Fix No Chevys
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
However, often it can be due to external factors(often related to the disability) focal issues, phys impairments, medication, etc a4
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Q5: What are the dangers of incentives and rewards? When is it OK to use them?
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
This is definitely a group we struggle w/. We have to ensure they can be successful and build on that
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In reply to @OnMy_AGame
jcbjr
Mar 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
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A4: The ones w/o parental interest in education and w/o family informal education opportunities / trips / visits.
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Q4: Which groups are least academically motivated in your school? Why? What can we do about it?
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
Sounds like a good read...The title also conjuring up Ford v Chevy debate !
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MrBrianRI
Mar 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A4 Great strategies to motivate boys read Boy Writers and Reading Don't Fix No Chevys
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
The danger of incentives is that s's may give half-hearted efforts when incentives are taken off the table. Effort is key. a5
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sarahdateechur
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A5.
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Try not to reward extrinsically things Ss get intrinsic joy...I learned from Drive
https://t.co/7SEGRK3r2F
MrBrianRI
Mar 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
A5 I use celebrations for reaching goals that are not physical gifts or food related.
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dshelley0
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A5: inconsistent use causes hurt feelings
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Q5: What are the dangers of incentives and rewards? When is it OK to use them?
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Also, I like to provide reward opportunities for assessments. But I do so more as an added bonus for s's who achieve success. a5
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
Interesting.
@DanielPink
's research suggests using rewards randomly. Thoughts?
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In reply to @dshelley0, @DanielPink
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
Q6: How can we create the conditions and environments where students will be motivated and, even better, self-motivated?
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rggillespie
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Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
The Carrot and the Sick don't work
https://t.co/HY7A1ht2HB
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
The Carrot and the Sick don't work
https://t.co/m6pqky6Cti
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bethcosta6
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
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A6: always give Ss the WHY of what they are learning and connect it to the real world. Outcomes for learning shouldn't be secret
sarahdateechur
Mar 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
A6
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I think it goes back to trust and support. I was talking abt this yesterday re: us (edus) but it is important to all learners
OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
Exercises that explicitly teach goal setting and motivation strategies are important. S's need opportunities demonstrated to them a6
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MrBrianRI
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A6 Create classroom systems that support motivation, growth, and rigor
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
Vital. But we can't teach these in isolation. Need to be incorporated into all classes not as a stand alone
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
Exercises that explicitly teach goal setting and motivation strategies are important. S's need opportunities demonstrated to them a6
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PrincipalNyberg
Mar 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
a6. Think about it from your perspective. Tapping into a passion. Athenticity. or just wanting to scratch the itch.
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jcbjr
Mar 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
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A5: They don't work!! Really understand the material in Dan Pink's book, "Drive." Use them maybe as a class Improvement celebration.
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Q5: What are the dangers of incentives and rewards? When is it OK to use them?
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
Q7: Fill-in-the-blank: We can increase student motivation by ____?
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
We can increase student motivation by increasing authenticity in instruction. a7
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scitechyEDU
Mar 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
getting out of their way…
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@sarahdateechur
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MrBrianRI
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
A7 Clear expectations goal setting student reflection and choice.
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OnMy_AGame
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Authenticity can be brought about by higher engagement, problem based learning, and differentiated instructional approaches. a7
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ErinWest_ITRT
Mar 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
{Meaningful} REAL life examples
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
Q7: Fill-in-the-blank: We can increase student motivation by ____?
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ErinWest_ITRT
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
A7 {Meaningful} REAL life examples
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
Q7: Fill-in-the-blank: We can increase student motivation by ____?
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naznate
Mar 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
7: relevancy
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In reply to @rggillespie
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
Before we leave tonight, please share any helpful resources and be sure to follow tonight’s
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ers to continue the learning
rggillespie
- Moderator
Mar 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
1) building relationships. 2) Relevancy and Authenticity. 3) Providing feedback
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