#G2Great Archive

This chat is dedicated to continuing the conversation about teacher reflection it's based on Dr. Mary Howard's book Good to Great Teaching.

Thursday October 11, 2018
8:30 PM EDT

  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome ALL! We are so excited that you have joined us! Maximizing Our Potential - Assessments that Inform #G2Great @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy @hayhurst3
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to #G2Great chat friends. We are so happy to see you here tonight and thrilled to end our 5-part series with this important topic. Please tell us who’s joining us tonight and what you do. I love this part of the #G2Great show - Like a greeter at Walmart on digital ❤️
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Excitement is our favorite thing Wendy. Welcome friend! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome, Wendy! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    In reply to @WGoldsmith88
  • AllisonBerman5 Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi! I'm Allison. Student at Bank Street and I'm excited to be on tonight! #litbankstreet #G2Great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
      Welcome to #G2Great chat friends. We are so happy to see you here tonight and thrilled to end our 5-part series with this important topic. Please tell us who’s joining us tonight and what you do. I love this part of the #G2Great show - Like a greeter at Walmart on digital ❤️
  • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hello! Johnny Downey - instructional coach from Cincinnati, Ohio! Looking forward to this #G2Great chat about assessment tonight!
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi everyone!! My name is Sandra and I teach first grade and am a student at Bank St. I am excited to be a part of the #g2great chat tonight!! #LitBankStreet
  • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi! Justine here- first grade teacher and bank street student! excited for my second #g2great chat! #LitBankStreet
  • BallingerCierra Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi! My name is Cierra Ballinger and I am an Elementary Education major at Texas State University. I am currently an intern an a 1st grade classroom and this is my first #g2great chat!
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi Johnny! #G2Great
    In reply to @johnnydowney
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Yay so happy you’re here Johnny. How in the world are you cutting with one good arm? That’s true commitment #G2Great
    • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      Hello! Johnny Downey - instructional coach from Cincinnati, Ohio! Looking forward to this #G2Great chat about assessment tonight!
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    I'm Robbi, I'm a student joining from Bank Street for my 3rd #G2Great chat! So excited to be here! #LitBankStreet
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
      Welcome to #G2Great chat friends. We are so happy to see you here tonight and thrilled to end our 5-part series with this important topic. Please tell us who’s joining us tonight and what you do. I love this part of the #G2Great show - Like a greeter at Walmart on digital ❤️
  • DrLMaucione Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi #G2Great friends! I'm Lisa, a literacy specialist, from Massachusetts.
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hello! My name is Wendy and I am a second grade teacher in NYC and currently a grad student at Bank Street. #g2great #LitBankStreet
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    One more quote as our #G2Great chat begins . . . @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy @hayhurst3
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Welcome Cierra. Fran did you see that we have another preservice educator. I love the commitment to learning already Cierra #G2Great
    • BallingerCierra Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      Hi! My name is Cierra Ballinger and I am an Elementary Education major at Texas State University. I am currently an intern an a 1st grade classroom and this is my first #g2great chat!
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hello from Jill in Fredericton, NB. I'm a Gr 6-12 Literacy Coordinator. #G2Great
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    I’m Stephanie and I teach 4th grade in Raleigh, North Carolina on this rainy and windy night. #G2great
  • LKhezrie Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi! Linda here! I am a kindergarten teacher and a @bankstreetedu grad student. Excited for tonights chat! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi Jill! ❤️ #G2Great
  • light_lindsay Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Lindsay from LA-looking forward to learning tonight! #g2Great
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi I'm Jenny! Here from Bank Street - so excited to join #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • ssvincent Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi Friends! I teach preservice teachers at Miami University in Ohio. Excited to chat with you all tonight! #G2Great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Happy Thursday! Lisa joining from Florida. #g2great
  • mrbgilson Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi #g2great Brent her from Magrath, fresh off meetings.
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    #G2Great Kasey, Literacy Coach for KISD TX ready to stand on this assessment soapbox 😆 “We assess what we value”
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi—it’s Julie from NY. Excited to learn with and from everyone tonight! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi Robbi. We LOVE our #LitBankStreet friends #G2Great
    • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      I'm Robbi, I'm a student joining from Bank Street for my 3rd #G2Great chat! So excited to be here! #LitBankStreet
      • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:30 PM EDT
        Welcome to #G2Great chat friends. We are so happy to see you here tonight and thrilled to end our 5-part series with this important topic. Please tell us who’s joining us tonight and what you do. I love this part of the #G2Great show - Like a greeter at Walmart on digital ❤️
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hello, dear Mary! #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • pleepow Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Lee from NC #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    It’s so amazing to see you Lisa! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    I already followed Cierra! LOL Welcome! @BallingerCierra #G2Great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @BallingerCierra
  • maryannesacco Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    K-4 Literacy Specialist at an independent girls’ school. Look forward to this topic and always learn from #G2Great
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi Susan!! #G2Great
    In reply to @ssvincent
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Thank you, @DrMaryHoward ! We love being here! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi, I'm Jenny! Here from Bank Street. Excited to chat! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi Stephanie. Are you getting a lot of backlash from the hurricane? #G2Great
    • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
      I’m Stephanie and I teach 4th grade in Raleigh, North Carolina on this rainy and windy night. #G2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:34 PM EDT
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hi Linda. Welcome and great to see you again! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Don't forget to expand your PLN. Find a new friend or two to follow! #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    I LOVE it… #LitBankStreet is in full force tonight! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A1. Formative Assessments with precise feedback for Ss aligned with learning targets, instruction & assessments. T changes instruction to match S needs. (Hattie ES = 1.13) #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Welcome Lindsay! #G2Great
  • BallingerCierra Oct 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Thank you! I followed you back, Fran :) #g2great
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @DrMaryHoward
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Okay now it’s a chat - gangs all here ❤️ #G2Great
    • ssvincent Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
      Hi Friends! I teach preservice teachers at Miami University in Ohio. Excited to chat with you all tonight! #G2Great
  • DrLMaucione Oct 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    It feels like forever since I've been able to join a #G2great chat so I'm very glad I could make it tonight!
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A little multi-tasking going on, but I don't want to miss this #g2great chat!
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Ooh I’m joining the party too! #G2Great
  • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1 STUDENTS! They deserve to have the very best educational environments and to maximize that, we Ts need to be able to assess quickly and accurately to inform our instructional decisions and design experiences for individuals. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1 The WHY of assessment that informs = K-I-D-S. We can’t teach kids we don’t know so we make a commitment to day to day formative assessment to understand kids as learner (not to label them) #G2Great
  • LKhezrie Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Thanks! So happy to be joining you again! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A3: Formative assessments feel personal to me. They give specific, informed information about what our students know and how they learn. #g2great #LitBankStreet
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    So happy to have you here, Cierra! #g2great Will you be able to attend #NCTE18 next month?
    In reply to @BallingerCierra, @DrMaryHoward
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    We have an open door to welcome you in whenever you can Lilsa 😊 #G2Great
    • DrLMaucione Oct 11 @ 8:35 PM EDT
      It feels like forever since I've been able to join a #G2great chat so I'm very glad I could make it tonight!
      In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    YAY you made it ❤️ #G2Great
  • Mrs_Collier525 Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Hello, #G2Great! 6th grade ELA joining from a rainy Central Va. Probably more lurking tonight b/c assessments are admittedly a very weak area for me! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Happy Thursday to you too Lisa #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1: What’s my why? Maximizing our potential by focusing on assessment that informs because our kiddos NEED us to do just that! They DESERVE for us to see them - not #’s, not graphs, not levels, not colors - but thriving, amazing, unique individuals! #g2great
  • AllisonBerman5 Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1: Because we should be teaching students what they need to know based off of formative assessment. Not just teaching them for the sake of teaching them! #G2great #LitBankStreet
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Yes! I love the idea of them being personal! Our students are more than just numbers and grades and assessments should be, too! #LitBankStreet #g2Great
    • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 8:36 PM EDT
      A3: Formative assessments feel personal to me. They give specific, informed information about what our students know and how they learn. #g2great #LitBankStreet
  • Mwallauerteach Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Hi friends! Mary from NJ so happy to learn tonight with #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Bring it on girlfriend ❤️ #G2Great
    • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 8:32 PM EDT
      #G2Great Kasey, Literacy Coach for KISD TX ready to stand on this assessment soapbox 😆 “We assess what we value”
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1: Formative assessment is a means for growth for both the teacher and the student. With a flexible curriculum that is informed by these assessments you can create the best learning environment for your classroom. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Hi Julie…. waving! #G2Great
  • jdsniadecki Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Hi friends! Jennifer here; librarian/PD facilitator in IN. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    This is a great place to be on a rainy day! #g2great
    In reply to @Mrs_Collier525
  • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    #G2Great I would say student interaction data is still one of the most important sets of data we as teachers get from our students. Learning our students informs you of outside influences that play a large role in our student's academics. #UNILitEd
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    #G2Great A1 Our beliefs drive our practices and what we value we assess, time realigning these would allow us to better know and nurture our readers and writers
  • Doyle_Teaching7 Oct 11 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Hello from Oregon Coast (K-2 teacher)#G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1 FOCUSING on assessment that informs doesn’t mean we don’t use other things. It simply means we consider those things through the lens of day-to-day, heat-of-the-learning moment perspectives. This broader view sharpens that lens! #G2Great
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1 The why of assessment= seeing students through a lens of what they CAN do so we can nudge them forward rather than starting with a deficit lens of identifying weaknesses. #G2Great
  • ssvincent Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1. My WHY is that we need assessments that help us get to know our students better. The closer the assessment is to a real literacy task, the better we’ll get to know our students true strengths and weaknesses. #G2Great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1. Formative assessment helps us as educators to provide for students needs. How can you adjust your instruction appropriately without it?! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Hi Jennifer #G2Great
  • AllisonBerman5 Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Flexible curriculum makes so much sense. Why would we just stick to one thing when our S need something else? #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
      A1: Formative assessment is a means for growth for both the teacher and the student. With a flexible curriculum that is informed by these assessments you can create the best learning environment for your classroom. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1 we only have time for assessment that guides our instruction, teaches us about our students, and tells us about the effectiveness of our teaching. Instructional time is precious and we have none to spare! #G2great
  • CRCarter313 Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    This is #WhyIWrite What’s your story⁉️ #TeachWrite #NCTEVillage #g2great #TeachBetter #KidsDeserveIt @TechNinjaTodd @bethhill2829 @MrsHankinsClass @ERobbPrincipal @SteeleThoughts @DrMaryHoward @colbysharp @colleen_cruz @DrJStephensVP @justintarte
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Yes, I completely agree! #LitBankStreet #g2great
  • mrbgilson Oct 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1: Assessment that doesn't inform us is the opposite of maximizing our time. We have precious little time in the grand scheme and wasting it on garbage assessment practices (feel free to read that as online reading assessments) is just not the best choice. #g2great
  • LKhezrie Oct 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1: Formative assessment provides us with the information needed to help us better understand our students and guide our practice. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • Mwallauerteach Oct 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1:my why would be because when we open ourselves to strengths/where S have come we can celebrate progress& set meaningful goals #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Yes!! TICK TOCK TICK TOCK. So much wasted time on assessment that don’t mean diddly and such an incredible waste of instructional time using data that can lead us astray. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    HATE that we have to say "REAL literacy task" but let's face it . . . Not all tasks are created equal! #g2Great
    In reply to @ssvincent
  • RockingReading Oct 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Mary, Literacy Coach From N.C. Glad to be following along but may not comment much due to power outage from Hurricane Michael. #G2Great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Yes! #g2great
    • AllisonBerman5 Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
      Flexible curriculum makes so much sense. Why would we just stick to one thing when our S need something else? #LitBankStreet #G2Great
      • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
        A1: Formative assessment is a means for growth for both the teacher and the student. With a flexible curriculum that is informed by these assessments you can create the best learning environment for your classroom. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • maryannesacco Oct 11 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1: because their stories, their histories, who they are...becomes the data that adds to the rest that informs our most effective instructional practice #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1 Assessment isn’t what we do TO kids but what we do FOR them as we choose instructional options that meet them where they are while gently nudging them forward. Those combined assessments drive the decision-making bus #G2Great
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Love this! Formative assessment should be a natural part of the classroom! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 8:39 PM EDT
      A1. Formative assessment helps us as educators to provide for students needs. How can you adjust your instruction appropriately without it?! #g2great
  • jdsniadecki Oct 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1: THE why is Service of students. We really do need assessments that actually inform, and are not just mandated by the state or Corp #G2Great
  • BallingerCierra Oct 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Yes! It is so important for students to be taught according to their needs. #g2great
    In reply to @AllisonBerman5
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1: Assessment that informs gives me insight on the child, especially those thought processes that can seem hidden if assessed other ways. This is so important for designing future instruction and figuring out exactly what the child needs. #G2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
  • Doyle_Teaching7 Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A1Reason to assess to inform....our students our worth it! We must be sure our instruction is on track and joyful literacy infusion is actively happening for our children. #G2Great
  • vrkimmel Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Valinda from TX just now joining. Excited about the final in this series. #G2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Brent, I wish you would just explicitly state your opinion. LOL "wasting time" We need/ we must teach with a sense of urgency. Our time is limited! @mrbgilson #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    And we’re going to waste our time doing and assessing worksheets… let’s at a least give them one that would be worthy of their time (I had WAY too much fun creating this ) #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A1: It is critical that was assess our students to see not only help us to decide we want to teach them, but to evaluate their progression as well. I prefer formative assessments (esp in 1st grade) They're also a great tool to reflect on our own teaching! #g2great #LitBankStreet
  • LKhezrie Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Love this! I'm always trying to be conscious about what I can do FOR my students. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:41 PM EDT
      A1 Assessment isn’t what we do TO kids but what we do FOR them as we choose instructional options that meet them where they are while gently nudging them forward. Those combined assessments drive the decision-making bus #G2Great
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Hi Valinda! #G2Great
    In reply to @vrkimmel
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A2. Informs Ss, Ts, & Parents. Not Graded. Checking for understanding. In the "error range" while learning. Quick Write to define a vocab term. Write a thesis statement. Top 3 reasons to do something. Short, sweet, check up! #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Hey friend… welcome! #G2Great
    • vrkimmel Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
      Valinda from TX just now joining. Excited about the final in this series. #G2great
  • ssvincent Oct 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Hope you and your home are safe and sound. #g2great
    In reply to @RockingReading
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Hope you are safe, dry and warm. (And have some books to read for the daylight hours.) #G2Great
    In reply to @RockingReading
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    This is great! #LitBankStreet #g2great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
      And we’re going to waste our time doing and assessing worksheets… let’s at a least give them one that would be worthy of their time (I had WAY too much fun creating this ) #G2Great
  • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2 Assessment that informs refers to assessments that tells Ts what Ss can already do, are learning to do, and still need more time to be independent on. They are diagnostic and designed to help Ts in the instructional design process. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2 Assessment that informs allows us to assess Sts as they actively engage in the process of learning – not separate them from it. This focus on process over product leaves room for analyzing kids immersed in learning. #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2: Like instruction, assessment has to be within the zone of proximal development to be of much value. Too easy tells not much. Too hard tells not much. At least when our goal is what to teach next. #g2great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    I agree! It's just as important to evaluate ourselves and make course corrections along the way as well. #g2great
    • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:42 PM EDT
      A1: It is critical that was assess our students to see not only help us to decide we want to teach them, but to evaluate their progression as well. I prefer formative assessments (esp in 1st grade) They're also a great tool to reflect on our own teaching! #g2great #LitBankStreet
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Yes! Joyful literacy is undervalued by many. #G2Great
    In reply to @Doyle_Teaching7
  • suzrolander Oct 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    So happy you are here @MissBecker627 #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      Hi everyone!! My name is Sandra and I teach first grade and am a student at Bank St. I am excited to be a part of the #g2great chat tonight!! #LitBankStreet
  • vrkimmel Oct 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A1 We can't just go with our "gut" to decide on instructional planning. Assessment (especially formative) gives great info on what Ss need for instruction, remediation, acceleration, and intervention. Can't do without assessment--it's a deal-breaker. #G2great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2: Assessment that informs = ongoing, authentic, applicable, in-real time, used to create a plan forward, relevant to Ss individual needs. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Hi, Lindsay! Hope your year is going well! Cannot believe it's Oct. already! #g2great
    In reply to @ssvincent
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2: I think "assessment that informs" means trying to understand not only what our students know, but who they are, what inspires them, and how we can use this knowledge to best help them learn, grow, and feel confident in themselves as learners. #LitBankStreet #g2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Yes so important. Too many tests tell us what we knew in the first place- it’s too hard. And when we use it we do little more than to label kids and frustrate them all in one (and Hi Melanie!) #G2Great
    • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:44 PM EDT
      A2: Like instruction, assessment has to be within the zone of proximal development to be of much value. Too easy tells not much. Too hard tells not much. At least when our goal is what to teach next. #g2great
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2: Assessments should increase engagement and incorporate student's background knowledge. #g2great #LitBankSteeet
  • DrLMaucione Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Assessment that informs tells us what students know and what they need to know so that we can provide targeted instruction that supports students in achieving at a level just beyond what they can already do. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: Student work samples that are process-oriented and aligned to learning targets inform us about what Ss know and are able to do. #g2great
  • mnm12 Oct 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: Assessment that informs is defined by it's applicability to next instructional steps. It has no value beyond that. Running records are a great example. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    I love that deeper view that includes the WHOLE child! #G2Great
    • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
      A2: I think "assessment that informs" means trying to understand not only what our students know, but who they are, what inspires them, and how we can use this knowledge to best help them learn, grow, and feel confident in themselves as learners. #LitBankStreet #g2Great
  • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    #G2Great A2: Assessment isn't all about informing the teacher but also informing the student on their own progress, helping them learn goal-setting and self-monitoring. #UNILitEd
  • suzrolander Oct 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    .@JustineeSnow so good to see you here!! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: Formative assessment can take a lot of forms. Student self-reporting, observation, checklists. Self-assessment is super powerful--I love when students can identify what they need to learn in order to get to an endzone. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2 Assessment that informs is not separate from instruction but inseparably intertwined with it. Instruction thus becomes a source for assessment & assessment leads to next step instruction. It’s the perfect marriage. #G2Great
  • PaulWHankins Oct 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2: What moves both the student and the work forward? Assessment that focuses upon error locks that work in the place where the error was made. Mindset of both teacher and student is crucial in this moment. Like the song, "Should [We] Stay or Should We Go Now?" Our move. #g2great
  • suzrolander Oct 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Wowza! You go Jenny!! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 8:37 PM EDT
      A1: Formative assessment is a means for growth for both the teacher and the student. With a flexible curriculum that is informed by these assessments you can create the best learning environment for your classroom. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Does anyone else every feel like they’re running a #G2Great marathon. I feel like I’m out of break 15 minutes in! (but in such a good way)
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2: Yes! Assessment that informs, allows the teacher to understand where the students are and where they should go next. It also gives the students a chance to reflect and check in. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
      A2: I think "assessment that informs" means trying to understand not only what our students know, but who they are, what inspires them, and how we can use this knowledge to best help them learn, grow, and feel confident in themselves as learners. #LitBankStreet #g2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Hi Mary! Over-assessed, over-taught, and underpracticed. #problem #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • maryannesacco Oct 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2: assessment that informs allows us to see something new, discover something about a child that we didn’t know, gives us insight to say- these are my next steps to move this student forward #G2Great
  • LKhezrie Oct 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Completely agree! Students aren't just deposits for information. They are people and should be treated that way. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
      A2: I think "assessment that informs" means trying to understand not only what our students know, but who they are, what inspires them, and how we can use this knowledge to best help them learn, grow, and feel confident in themselves as learners. #LitBankStreet #g2Great
  • AllisonBerman5 Oct 11 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2: So many times I've seen a T give Ss an assessment and then throw them in a file or on a shelf (or even in the recycling bin) before really looking and figuring out what it means. How can that be useful to T or S???!!!?!??!!!!??? #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2: Entrance or exit tickets, short responses that get at Ss understandings, misconceptions, noticings, wonderings, thinking, & ideas. #g2great
  • mrbgilson Oct 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2: Authentic in both purpose and administration. For example sitting down and reading with a student, reading an actual book not some photocopies reader and then having a natural not canned conversation. That would inform me. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    With so many wonderful informations it’s amazing to me that we still insistent on using NON informants that just blur the view. #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
      A2: Entrance or exit tickets, short responses that get at Ss understandings, misconceptions, noticings, wonderings, thinking, & ideas. #g2great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    #G2Great makes the invisible visible, the muddy more clear, the general more precise, the known encouraged repeated consistent and transferable and the unknown moldable and strengthened while bringing us closer to the reader, the writer, the whole student
  • ssvincent Oct 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2. Observational notes. Write what you observe, then interpret the notes later. I learn so much abt kids when i have time to really sit and analyze observational notes. #g2great
  • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2 assessment that informs compels us to reflect. Reflect on our students and what they know and still need, reflect on our teaching and what is working and what needs to be adjusted. Kid watching with learning targets in mind is powerful assessment #G2Great
  • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Keeping up with both #ILAchat and #G2Great is quite the marathon but I am willing to run it!
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2: "Assessment that informs" guides us to design our lessons to best align with who our student are. How do they learn best? Is how we are teaching working for them? Where do we go next? #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2: The Latin root word for assessment is "assidere" which means to sit beside. I’m pretty certain that computerized tests (such as CBM-reading measures) that spit out colored graphs and box in Ss with % rankings are not “sitting beside” our Ss. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2 Examples of assessment that informs: running records, kidwatching, anecdotal notes, conferring and anything connected to the teaching/learning process that helps us to glean new understandings about kids. #G2Great
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    I completely agree!!! If we aren't using the info to help teachers and students, why are we giving the assessment? #LitBankStreet #g2Great
  • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Totally agree @rlegrant! It tells us what they know, areas for growth, how they learn, and what motivates and excites them! Assessment that informs is active communication between between teacher and student. #g2great #LitBankStreet
    • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:45 PM EDT
      A2: I think "assessment that informs" means trying to understand not only what our students know, but who they are, what inspires them, and how we can use this knowledge to best help them learn, grow, and feel confident in themselves as learners. #LitBankStreet #g2Great
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2 Assessment that informs happens over time, in multiple ways and is authentic in that it mirrors what readers and writers do outside of school. It invites students into the process, incorporating their voice and choice. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Okay now I’m REALLY impressed! #G2Great
  • jdsniadecki Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2: depends on what you want to know! (Back to purpose) best assessments inform — tell Ts, S, and other stakeholders the answers to questions that will help S to grow. I’m thinking reflections about reading, asking questions that lead to research, etc. #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2: Looked at a first grader's writing today. Could we read it easily? Nope. I'm not sure that matters a lot because we COULD say "here are next steps for instruction." #g2great
  • mnm12 Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2: For when the assessment maketh learning toward all of the knowledge of it.#G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    And then I hear "They don't try" "They are lazy" "They don't know . . . YES! So true! @AllisonBerman5 #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A2: When we listen to Ss, talk with Ss, value and use what they read, write, design and create to help us know them…we are getting at assessment that informs = giving us intel that actually matters! #g2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
  • DrLMaucione Oct 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Yes, and that can tell you so much more than any computerized assessment ever could! #G2Great
    In reply to @mrbgilson
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    This is such an important point!! #G2Great
    • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 8:46 PM EDT
      #G2Great A2: Assessment isn't all about informing the teacher but also informing the student on their own progress, helping them learn goal-setting and self-monitoring. #UNILitEd
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A2: Assessment that informs is something that allows for many levels of performance, not just a single answer. An example could be a single carefully designed question in reading that students respond to. #g2great
  • BallingerCierra Oct 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A1. It's so important to focus on assessment that informs so our students can maintain and reach attainable goals. #g2great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    I agree!! And it's just wasting everyones time! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    In reply to @AllisonBerman5
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A3. When T uses the results, the T will have to be flexible and change instruction. TODAY! Perfect lesson plans need to be abandoned. Planning is ..."If this then A. If this then B." or C or D or E! #G2Great
  • AllisonBerman5 Oct 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Make the students valuable! It's their learning experience! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:50 PM EDT
      A2: When we listen to Ss, talk with Ss, value and use what they read, write, design and create to help us know them…we are getting at assessment that informs = giving us intel that actually matters! #g2great
  • girlworld4 Oct 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Couldn’t do this fast enough! Cannot wait to put this book in my hands #g2great
    In reply to @trevorabryan, @DenineJimmerson, @FableLearn, @ProfJPizzo, @mgcjusa, @MiniMatisse, @ShawnaCoppola, @writeguyjeff, @mrbgilson, @nankr1120
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A2. I do believe that assessments that show Ss errors can be useful as long as we use it correctly. Errors are a part of life. Never make the error the final effort. We can use it as a learning tool and help Ss make corrections, figure out where they went wrong. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3 Time is always a challenge & that’s the point of formative assessment. It’s not about doing something ELSE but using instructional moments as assessment references. This means we don’t add time but embed it in teaching. #G2Great
  • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3 Some of these assessments take time to give correctly and gather the most important information. Making time for what is MOST important is needed for quality informative assessments. I have many conversations w/Ts about the importance of IRA’s and why we MUST! #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3: Stand up for kids by “talking back” to assessments that are taking up too much time & don’t give info that impacts daily and weekly planning. For every data meeting that shows Ss on a graph, color, % rank, show STUDENT WORK that shows & informs more! #g2great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3: Have to keep asking: What do I really need to know? and How is this assessment telling me that? #g2great
  • ssvincent Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Wow, I feel smarter from just this tweet alone. #g2great
    • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
      A2: The Latin root word for assessment is "assidere" which means to sit beside. I’m pretty certain that computerized tests (such as CBM-reading measures) that spit out colored graphs and box in Ss with % rankings are not “sitting beside” our Ss. #g2great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Absolutely! We all learn by error analysis, as long as we understand our errors and work toward correcting them. #g2great
    In reply to @lisahburns
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A2 Assessment that informs reflects many facets of the learner. Assessment that informs views a reader or writer through a wider lens. #G2Great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    #G2Great A2 Ex: anecdotal notes, student surveys, running records, and brief targeted formative response analyzed for both +,- patterns and trends coupled with feedback and conferring...no computer assmt can replace what a teacher is able to reveal about a student
  • jdsniadecki Oct 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3: I so look forward to tossing those weekly or monthly standardized assessments and focus on what really counts! Talking to the Ss! Helping the Ss! By the way, we have all the data we need — just use it wisely! #G2Great
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3: Finding the time and last minute disruptions is always a challenge. #LitBankStreet #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    There aren’t enough ❤️s on earth to add to this tweet Julie! #G2Great ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
    • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:49 PM EDT
      A2: The Latin root word for assessment is "assidere" which means to sit beside. I’m pretty certain that computerized tests (such as CBM-reading measures) that spit out colored graphs and box in Ss with % rankings are not “sitting beside” our Ss. #g2great
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    I love this!! The flexibility to design instruction to fit the students is so important! #G2Great
    • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:51 PM EDT
      A3. When T uses the results, the T will have to be flexible and change instruction. TODAY! Perfect lesson plans need to be abandoned. Planning is ..."If this then A. If this then B." or C or D or E! #G2Great
  • mrbgilson Oct 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3: Time is the challenge and usually the measure of good assessment. You want a quick snapshot with little data trust a quick test with little meaning (AR, Star, Read Theory) You want a full picture challenge your students to write, to think and to respond #g2great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Amen. #g2great
    • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
      A3: Have to keep asking: What do I really need to know? and How is this assessment telling me that? #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: Define the types of intel that will help you know what Ss need next. Define the types of intel that will help Ss know what they need next. Assessment that informs means just that..it paves a way forward. #G2Great
  • PaulWHankins Oct 11 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: The challenge that so many of face is a sense of a assessment's singular function of evaluating the work that has gone into and has now come out of the student. Now, I am going to go away and say ten positive things about teaching and my role within the practice. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Mic drop! Take back the power! @juliewright4444 #G2great
    • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
      A3: Stand up for kids by “talking back” to assessments that are taking up too much time & don’t give info that impacts daily and weekly planning. For every data meeting that shows Ss on a graph, color, % rank, show STUDENT WORK that shows & informs more! #g2great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    #G2Great A2 process & progress across time & across Texts; multidimensional vs singular cumulative standardized products
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: sometimes we spend SO much time assessing and scoring the assessments that we don't think about the next steps, which is the most important part. All three parts-- WHAT?, SO WHAT?, and NOW WHAT?--have to happen! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A3 The best way to meet this challenge is to ensure teachers understand that we aren’t adding time but viewing it through a new informative lens. We need MUCH more professional learning around this topic. #G2Great
  • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    #G2Great Schools have a large focus on standardized assessment which we know isn't the best way to tract student data. We can find a balance by considering the data but also focusing on student needs we know from personal interactions and time spent within the classroom #UNILitEd
  • LKhezrie Oct 11 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Time is something I struggle with as well but your perspective really helps make it seem more manageable! Any moment can be a "teaching moment" #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:52 PM EDT
      A3 Time is always a challenge & that’s the point of formative assessment. It’s not about doing something ELSE but using instructional moments as assessment references. This means we don’t add time but embed it in teaching. #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A3: TIME!Our scheds are packed so finding the time for 1 on 1 assessments is challenging. & What are the rest of the students doing when you're working with that 1 student? We must use our time wisely and plan meaningful work that they can do independently.#LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • PaulWHankins Oct 11 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Hey, @RitaWirtz. . .look at all of the typos in this tweet. "of us" and "an assessment." It happens to the be. . .to the. . .bes. . .to all of us. #g2great
    In reply to @RitaWirtz
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Three reasons for assessment: 1. Accountability 2. Have students learned, and 3. To inform instruction. We need to be clear as to our reason for assessmment in the first place. #g2great
    In reply to @PaulWHankins
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3 BIG challenge = rigid hyperfocus on numerical data collection. Spreadsheets can be one SMALL part of the kid picture but NEVER the star of the assessment show or we will lose sight of the child beneath the spreadsheet. #G2Great
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3: I often see teachers mandated to give specific assessments that they don't totally understand, often before they have the chance to get to know their students. I think determining if an assessment is useful and how to change it if not is a challenge! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Yes Kylie…. data doesn’t mean diddly without format assessment to affirm or refute it (as it often will) #G2Great
    • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 8:55 PM EDT
      #G2Great Schools have a large focus on standardized assessment which we know isn't the best way to tract student data. We can find a balance by considering the data but also focusing on student needs we know from personal interactions and time spent within the classroom #UNILitEd
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    I think of AR, Star, etc. as "out of focus" snapshot. Panorama shot is the one where Ss read, write, think . .. . LOVE this connection! #g2great
    In reply to @mrbgilson
  • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Agreed! And looking for those patterns and trends is key #G2Great
    In reply to @LiteracyCoachKS
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3: My greatest challenge is time. Students need time to be with the concepts and progress through them, so balancing that with other demands is difficult, but worth it to so students can experience what learning can really be. #g2great
  • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3: Informative assessments should make me reflect AND help the Ss to be self reflective. Time is a challenge for me! And expectations about what work the students should have to "show"... *eyeroll* Does that make sense? #LitBankStreet #g2great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    I agree! I would LOVE professional learning around this topic! It is something that most teachers struggle with, yet something also so important. #G2Great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
  • EduGladiators Oct 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    📝How are you leveraging feedback w/your students? #EduGladiators October series on Student Engagement continue w/@MissG_edu leading us! #globaledchat #mschat #Urbanedchat #memspachat #G2Great #MasteryChat #edochat #atplc #INeLearn #meded #rethinkla #sstlap #EduAr #k12artchat
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    #G2Great A3 while Ts may not have control over what and when we do have control over how it is used and keeping perspective in relation with what we know best informs; up to us to turn compliance checklists into meaningful data we can use in how we analyze and share with Ss
  • mrbgilson Oct 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    You say out of focus I say broken camera haha #G2Great
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • PaulWHankins Oct 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A3: The challenge that so many of us face is a sense of an assessment's singular function: evaluating the work that has gone into and has now come out of the student. Now, I am going to go away and say ten positive things about teaching and my role within the practice. #g2great
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A3: I think setting side time to create space for assessments, as well as reflect. We need to make sure that we set aside time to learn from these assessments and create change/challenges where needed. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    There should be a limit on the number of silly tests that Ts have to give that actually MISINFORM instruction! #G2Great
    In reply to @rlegrant
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    ILAchat friends, we’d love for you to join the list half of our #G2great chat tonight. Our topic is a perfect complement to your chat tonight and we welcome late-comers! ❤️
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A4. Entrance slip. Want to check on yesterday's learning before we move on. Are there misconceptions? What should I repeat? What needs clarification? #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    I agree!! And unfortunately, sometimes this is trial and error. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    In reply to @rlegrant
  • Doyle_Teaching7 Oct 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Time to collaborate with other teachers and analyze effective teaching practices (growing together) and time to confer with each student to help them celebrate success and pinpoint areas for growth themselves... powerful reflection! #G2Great
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Love this! What? So what? Now what? Three key questions for assessment! #G2Great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    @franmcveigh I completely agree! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 8:58 PM EDT
      There should be a limit on the number of silly tests that Ts have to give that actually MISINFORM instruction! #G2Great
      In reply to @rlegrant
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Yes yes! Totally makes sense! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    In reply to @JustineeSnow
  • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4 running records come to mind first! They can be taken during a lesson so no extra time needed, they can be analyzed to ensure you are teaching each Ss on their cutting edge of learning. This is the single most important piece of information for beginning readers! #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4: Listen in as Ss turn and talk. Then, join in to inquire or just stay quiet. Either way, it’s assessment that informs. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4 Since my Reading Recovery training in 1990, running records have been a central feature of my work. BUT I worry that many Ts don’t know how to analyze these references & thus miss the most powerful aspect of RR! #G2Great
  • vrkimmel Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A2 "Outside of the box" assessments can't be forgotten either. Asking kids how they see themselves and their growth as readers/writers gives powerful information that can also inform instruction. #G2great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    #G2Great A3 let your voice be respectfully heard as a professional; stand behind and up for research based practices and remind admin of the professional you are in uncovering pertinent info about your kids and reveal & advocate for meaningful practices
  • ssvincent Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A3. So many district-mandated tests for “progress monitoring” that adding on the valuable assessments that actually inform then feel like overload. There needs to be a better understanding of assessment by the decision-makers, IMHO #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    A4: Ask Ss mid-process - what do you need in the next 20-30 min and who can support you? #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Speak up/Shut up: Pretty awesome that it works either way #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
      A4: Listen in as Ss turn and talk. Then, join in to inquire or just stay quiet. Either way, it’s assessment that informs. #G2Great
  • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    A4: I ask them questions while they are working. Can you explain how you figured that out? Will you read to me what you wrote? etc. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Assessment is live and in the moment.#G2Great
    In reply to @LitROCK_taylor
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    A4: Thumbs up if you understand. If you have questions, stay on the rug. Make a mark on your paper where you think you could_____ #g2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Fewer averages. What does a measure of central tendency REALLY tell us? #G2Great
    In reply to @LiteracyCoachKS
  • AllisonBerman5 Oct 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Just did my first running records this week! Need to really dig in and try to figure out what I can learn from them, but it seems like such a great tool! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
      A4 Since my Reading Recovery training in 1990, running records have been a central feature of my work. BUT I worry that many Ts don’t know how to analyze these references & thus miss the most powerful aspect of RR! #G2Great
  • LKhezrie Oct 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Just recently had my first experience with running records - such a quick, non-invasive, on-the-spot method of assessment. Can't wait to use them more often in my classroom! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
      A4 running records come to mind first! They can be taken during a lesson so no extra time needed, they can be analyzed to ensure you are teaching each Ss on their cutting edge of learning. This is the single most important piece of information for beginning readers! #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    It doesn't get much better than that - but I'm SHOCKED that so many teachers don't use running records or even know what they are. #G2Great
    • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 9:00 PM EDT
      A4 running records come to mind first! They can be taken during a lesson so no extra time needed, they can be analyzed to ensure you are teaching each Ss on their cutting edge of learning. This is the single most important piece of information for beginning readers! #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    It's all about engagement for students and teachers #G2Great Assessment is a way to get there.
    In reply to @JustineeSnow
  • svalter80 Oct 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    #G2Great A4: Sometimes formative assessment is just as simple as looking around the classroom to see what kids are reading and how they are reading it. Are they engaged? Reacting? Trying something new?
  • ILAToday Oct 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    And head over to #G2Great. They are also talking about assessments tonight. #ILAchat
    • ILAToday Oct 11 @ 9:01 PM EDT
      Thank you for joining us for tonight’s #ILAchat! Have a good evening, and we’ll see you here next month!
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4: Ask Ss to create thinking partners across the classroom/learning community. Identify who can support you with different needs. When Ss self-identify it promotes Ss independence & engagement. #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4: Go on a hunt for Ss assets. What can they do so that we can build on that! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4 I’m a devoted kidwatcher. As Ts we must be wide-eyed curiosity inspired observers of children engaged in all aspects of the learning process and use this as rich informants leading to next steps decision-making. #G2Great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Yes. Quick checks as students are working. Asking students to explain their thinking along the way. A lot of formative assessment means we are actually talking with and listening to students. #g2great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4: When we teach students to be reflective, THEY do the formative assessment throughout the day. Celebrate productive struggle! #g2great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    #G2Great A4 kidwatching and conferring hands down noticing wondering listening noting analyzing conversing and connecting
  • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    #G2Great One quick way to get feedback from students is having them put up a thumbs up/down or 1-5 understanding. ALWAYS keep this private by having the student hold their answers to their chest. #UNILitEd
  • jdsniadecki Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4: Exit tickets; “parking lot,” book talks in reading class, etc #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    The more we trust our own teaching the more empowered we bcome when it comes to assessment. #G2Great It informs the way.
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4: Integrating drama and visual art can be powerful on the spot assessments. Drama with reenacting scenes, taking on different perspectives, etc. can free students to be more relaxed than with other tasks too. Visual art can lead to deep expression too. #G2Great
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4 Conferences are a powerful way to connect with students and they can take place anywhere: in the classroom but also in the hallway, cafeteria, bus line, etc. We can learn about readers through informal chats all day long. #G2Great
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    I love the term kidwatcher! We can learn so much by observing! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      A4 I’m a devoted kidwatcher. As Ts we must be wide-eyed curiosity inspired observers of children engaged in all aspects of the learning process and use this as rich informants leading to next steps decision-making. #G2Great
  • ThoughtfulRead Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4: I think dynamic assessment is underutilized. When we scaffold a little at a time—seeing how much a learner needs—we have a better idea of students’ strengths and needs. #g2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4: "I'm taking 10 minutes to walk around with my clipboard and check out what you're doing. #g2great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4: Shares at the end of RW&WW.This is a great time to see what the Ss produced that day and is such an important part of the workshop already! I also use whiteboards during math and have Ss write the answers on them during whole group lessons. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    It's a matter of trust and belief. Trust in students and belief in our ability to teach them. #G2Great
    In reply to @LitROCK_taylor
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    And those three are NOT equally important in my mind. Priority goes to any that can and do appropriately meet 2 reasons. #g2great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1, @PaulWHankins
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4: Listening when students do a turn and talk and the conversations that happen between two students when they are looking at a book together. Love listening to these rich convos! #LitBankStreet #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4 Assessment that inform asks us to go beyond a one-shot view to explore patterns across assessments. This makes anecdotal records key so I can see the child OVER TIME across the learning day. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4: "Today I'm offering these seminars. Sign up if any of them are something you need some brushing up on." @franmcveigh #g2great
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    I agree, it is so important to talk WITH students and not just to them. #g2great
    In reply to @lisahburns
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Yes! I have learned so much about students and their thinking in conversations to and from the classroom. #g2great
    • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      A4 Conferences are a powerful way to connect with students and they can take place anywhere: in the classroom but also in the hallway, cafeteria, bus line, etc. We can learn about readers through informal chats all day long. #G2Great
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4: This is exactly where my mind went as well! I feel like there is constantly a formative assessment taking place because of my interactions with the students @classwork, read aloud etc. You may learn a lot when you aren't looking! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 9:01 PM EDT
      A4: I ask them questions while they are working. Can you explain how you figured that out? Will you read to me what you wrote? etc. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    I love doing this! It is such a quick and easy way to see how they are doing and they love it too because it shows you care! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    In reply to @JustineeSnow
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A5. When students "Turn and Talk", T listens in to hear what Ss are thinking. Restate their words or ask for them to be recorded on a chart! Check in on Google Docs, Padlet or Flipgrid. Group of 4 Ss / Share/ Choose 1 to share with whole class! #G2Great
  • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Conferring with readers and writers is such a great strategy to do in-the-moment assessments of your Ss. That one on one time is golden #g2great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Everyone is offering so many great ideas and way to assess. #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Yesterdays seminars. #g2great
  • Mrs_Collier525 Oct 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    I agree! "Conferences" can take place anywhere/anytime! #G2Great
    • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      A4 Conferences are a powerful way to connect with students and they can take place anywhere: in the classroom but also in the hallway, cafeteria, bus line, etc. We can learn about readers through informal chats all day long. #G2Great
  • maryannesacco Oct 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A4: spend time kid-watching: what am I learning from their talk, body language. What is this telling me about their engagement, the way they learn, what they need? #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Thank you so much friends! #G2Great
    • ILAToday Oct 11 @ 9:02 PM EDT
      And head over to #G2Great. They are also talking about assessments tonight. #ILAchat
      • ILAToday Oct 11 @ 9:01 PM EDT
        Thank you for joining us for tonight’s #ILAchat! Have a good evening, and we’ll see you here next month!
  • BallingerCierra Oct 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A4. This made me think of checking for understanding techniques. For example students can show their lvl of understanding w/ hand signals when prompted. Thumbs up if they understand the content well, in the middle for kinda, and thumbs down if they need more help. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5. Focus on positives... "What can the S do?" "Name the positive behaviors." Deliberately noticing what Ss are doing . . . BEFORE listing what they are NOT doing! #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5 Kidwatching mantra: Mouth closed. Eyes open. That’s not about judging but observing so we jot our noticings to then ponder what it means and consider next step options #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5: My notebook and pen is my best friend for kidwatching. Writing down my noticings - what can Ss do (assets) + my wonderings = leads me to next steps. #G2Great
  • PaulWHankins Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Yes. It reminds me of those memes we see in social media where the suggestion is that you can have two of something in a list of reading good things. Until we have standard students, we should really take another look at standardized tests and testing. I don't have any. #g2great
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @MelanieMeehan1
  • pleepow Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A4: Running records, conferring notes during reading. Anecdotal notes in a notebook during math small groups #G2Great
  • mrbgilson Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A4: I could see @MarisaEThompson's TQE as a great formative assessment. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    I love this Judy! #G2Great
    • ThoughtfulRead Oct 11 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      A4: I think dynamic assessment is underutilized. When we scaffold a little at a time—seeing how much a learner needs—we have a better idea of students’ strengths and needs. #g2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Wow, thank you @ILAToday #G2Great
    In reply to @ILAToday, @ILAToday
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    This is everything! #g2great #LitBankStreet
    • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT
      A5. Focus on positives... "What can the S do?" "Name the positive behaviors." Deliberately noticing what Ss are doing . . . BEFORE listing what they are NOT doing! #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A5: I love working in google docs because can easily be shared with others if needed and never lost! Sometimes I have to bite my tongue, but you can learn so much from your kids by just listening! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    #G2Great A5: Taking notes on students in their nature environment, not influencing but learning about them. Also one can have a list of standards, taking notes on what kiddos specifically say to meet those standards. #UNILitEd
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5 In Reading Recovery we spent the 1st two weeks Roaming in the Known: no formal teaching but just getting to know/understand kids as learners. I wish all teachers would do this. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5: Kidwatch by creating a note catcher for capturing observations. Orient, notice, take stock and inquire. Kidwatching lead to exciting opportunities to explore & more wonderings. #g2great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A4. Google forms is my new best friend for assessing and planning. #g2great
  • Doyle_Teaching7 Oct 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5Think/pair/share; partner work; Fab 4; Socratic seminar; book talks; community circle chats; conferring sessions; reflective questions like -How did you grow your brain as a reader today? #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Ohhh I love this idea! Do you use for all subjects? #G2Great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A5: Mid-workshop self-assessement. “If you are on a roll, keep on keeping on. If you need support, meet me over here.” #g2great
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Yes! We use google docs at my school too, and it's SUCH a great way to share observations and ideas between team members! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      A5: I love working in google docs because can easily be shared with others if needed and never lost! Sometimes I have to bite my tongue, but you can learn so much from your kids by just listening! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • ThoughtfulRead Oct 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A5: One of the best ways to gain insight is to video students engaged in a task. Not only is the teacher enlightened, so are the children when we watch and talk about what we see with them.#g2Great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    And great opportunities for further conversations to dig deeper. #g2great
    • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT
      A5: Kidwatch by creating a note catcher for capturing observations. Orient, notice, take stock and inquire. Kidwatching lead to exciting opportunities to explore & more wonderings. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A5 If assessments happen too early in the year we don’t have time to get to know learners. Knowledge helps us make sense of assessment. We can’t make good decisions w/o the benefit of this assessment/knowledge merger. #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A5: @JSerravallo 's engagement inventories are amazing for kidwatching. Sometimes it's the behaviors and not just the skills. #g2great
  • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    #G2Great So honored @DrMaryHoward invited me to this wonderful chat. Thank you all for progessing my education as a preservice teacher!
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    I know you're right. It's such a poor fit for the 21st Centruy. We have to find a better way to mark growth and expectations. #G2Great
    In reply to @PaulWHankins, @franmcveigh, @MelanieMeehan1
  • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    I’m a big fan of seminars as a strategy for student to select what they need #g2great
  • Mrs_Collier525 Oct 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    I love #waledchat! But I also love #G2Great, so it's a challenge..haha! I'm trying to do both tonight!
    In reply to @MrPStrunk
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A5: Checking the use of the skill, strategy, vocabulary, overall communication, persistence with the task, evidence, explanation of evidence, visuals, body language, etc.! #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    I have teachers using them for reading and writing. I'm a coach in writing rooms so I have them set up for all grade levels. I just enter in kids' names. #gamechanger #g2great
    In reply to @MissBecker627
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    I SO agree with getting to know learners before we assess! It makes me so sad to see assessments happening in the first weeks of school.#G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
      A5 If assessments happen too early in the year we don’t have time to get to know learners. Knowledge helps us make sense of assessment. We can’t make good decisions w/o the benefit of this assessment/knowledge merger. #G2Great
  • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    forgot to #litbankstreet #g2great
    • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT
      A5: Yes! Growth mindset and positive language is so important even in our notes!
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    There’s an open door for you any Thursday night my friend! 😊 #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    It is such a debate at my school as to when to assess kids. Too early and you don't have time to get to know them. Too late and you don't have the data to inform your instruction/make reading groups, etc. It is tricky! #G2Great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • jdsniadecki Oct 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A5: I really need to use Flipgrid more often! Google Classroom responses are nice. I like “who read the best book this week?” And watch Ss debate! #G2Great
  • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Amen to this! Getting to know your students takes time. “Knowledge helps us make sense of assessment” #G2great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
      A5 If assessments happen too early in the year we don’t have time to get to know learners. Knowledge helps us make sense of assessment. We can’t make good decisions w/o the benefit of this assessment/knowledge merger. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A6. Kidwatching allows Ts and Ss to tap into joy and excitement when learning. Also when frustrated and ready to tap out. Those points vary from child to child. Must know our Ss and their responses in order to have learning for all! #G2Great
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A5: Turn and talk is a large part of our daily classwork! In doing so, I am able to listen in and hear how the students articulate and explain their ideas to each other and what they might still need to review. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      A5. When students "Turn and Talk", T listens in to hear what Ss are thinking. Restate their words or ask for them to be recorded on a chart! Check in on Google Docs, Padlet or Flipgrid. Group of 4 Ss / Share/ Choose 1 to share with whole class! #G2Great
  • PaulWHankins Oct 11 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    As my grandmother used to say, "You don't fatten the hog by simply putting it on the scale." She also said something about turtles on fence posts. My grandmother had an 8th grade education. And could have led workshops on what testing attempts to do. . .and fails. #g2great
    In reply to @hayhurst3, @franmcveigh, @MelanieMeehan1
  • trevorabryan Oct 11 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Hey everyone! Jumping in late but happy to visit with my favorite group of ELA teachers on the Twitter. #g2great
  • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6 Many assessments that end with a number aren’t good enough to inform decision making within instructional design. The true color comes into play when we are sprinkling in our formative assessments and kidwatching. Formative assessments give us answers! #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6 Spreadsheets use numbers w/in a one-dimensional view of kids, increasing likelihood of false positive/negative. Formative assessment affords us with information to “argue” with those numbers for a three-dimensional view. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6: I wonder…what if Ss attended those “colorful spreadsheet” meetings, sat in the captain’s chair at the head of the table and had the opportunity to INFORM US about what he/she needs next to grow? What if… #G2Great
  • LKhezrie Oct 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6: Formative assessment allows you to see the full picture of who a child is as opposed to a singular score or number. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I SO agree with getting to know learners before we assess! It makes me so sad to see assessments happening in the first few days/weeks of school. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT
      A5 If assessments happen too early in the year we don’t have time to get to know learners. Knowledge helps us make sense of assessment. We can’t make good decisions w/o the benefit of this assessment/knowledge merger. #G2Great
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I love this question! I think I will use this next week!! #G2Great
    In reply to @jdsniadecki
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    @paulwhankins gets the laugh out loud prize for tonight's #g2great chat
  • mswilson1210 Oct 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I will just have to check in on that! Thank you for informing of #G2Great! Can't wait to chat next week!
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6: Formative assessment tells us who the students are instead of what their number or level on some rating system is. #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A6: Asking ourselves…if the data we are sifting through does not crack open Ss brains so that we can see their thinking unfold, it might be too skinny. #G2Great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A5.I think post-it notes are one of my favorite tools for quick checks/exit tickets so I can get one last insight. So easy to ask a question after kid watching and have Ss answer on a sticky note on their way out. #g2great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A6: Getting to know the WHOLE child! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    I go through so many post it notes sometimes its scary!! #G2Great
    In reply to @lisahburns
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Have you set up a post-it parking lot? #g2great
    In reply to @lisahburns
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    We have let Ss decide. (Gr. 3-5) Which day this week will work for you? OR do you want on next week's list? Better buy in, esp. when silly tests! #G2Great
    In reply to @MissBecker627, @DrMaryHoward
  • ThoughtfulRead Oct 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Weighing the lamb doesn’t make him fatter. Today’s obsession with data often means our students are on a starvation diet. One more spreadsheet won’t make a difference. #g2Great
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    #G2Great A6 we must not replace names and faces with numbers and colors; as I believe Mary once shared it should be a rule to tell 3 things about a S outside of every 1 data pt on a spreadsheet
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A6: Students aren't numbers, and assessments should be used to help us understand students on a deeper more holistic level. #g2Great #LitBankStreet
  • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Yes! If we give assessments too early we don’t know if they are accurate pictures of Ss ability. When we wait to assess we know if what we’re seeing is because the Ss is on or off point and can weigh the value of the information we found. #G2Great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A6 Anytime we reduce a child to a number, we risk losing the child beneath that number. You can’t reduce kids to a score/letter/number & think you’ll can see them from a broader & more relevant perspective. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Oct 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A6: Ss + T reflection = gives us a way forward that is relevant and timely. As Margaret Wheatly says, “without reflection, we go blindly on our way, creating more unintended consequences, and failing to achieve anything useful.” #g2great
  • CRCarter313 Oct 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A6: “What do you notice?” has been one of the most powerful questions this year in our class. The Ss have begun using the same language! ALL KIDS notice SOMETHING! It evens the playing field for ALL LEARNERS!! #G2Great @DrMaryHoward
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Love this Paul. I had wise grandmothers too and they knew a lot about the world and potential. They knew a thing or two about expriences and making the most of opportunities. Thanks for making me smile. #G2Great
    In reply to @PaulWHankins, @franmcveigh, @MelanieMeehan1
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Instructional design is key!! I find too many teachers focus on the score and who needs help, but not actually how they will design instruction to meet those needs. #G2Great
    In reply to @johnnydowney
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Completely agree! #g2great #LitBankStreet
    • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT
      Yes! If we give assessments too early we don’t know if they are accurate pictures of Ss ability. When we wait to assess we know if what we’re seeing is because the Ss is on or off point and can weigh the value of the information we found. #G2Great
      In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A6. Formative Assessments give a 3D picture of Ss as learners and thinkers. It gives depth to our knowledge. #g2great
  • PaulWHankins Oct 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Too much of standardized testing is a sorting mechanism. A binary system. Pass or Fail. I think one of the lessons we might/could draw from John Wesley is that he would ask candidates, "Are you moving toward perfection?" Talk about an example of formative assessment. #g2great
  • b_emmade Oct 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    The best on the spot assessment is one of myself....are the kids engaged and on topic?? If so, onward! if not...troubleshoot, make a change #g2great #litbankstreet
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Very wise. #G2Great
    • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT
      Instructional design is key!! I find too many teachers focus on the score and who needs help, but not actually how they will design instruction to meet those needs. #G2Great
      In reply to @johnnydowney
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    I like the idea of having the students decide!! Lets them take ownership and feel included in the decision. Unfortunately, sometimes its not even up to us and up to the school. :/ #G2Great
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @DrMaryHoward
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A6 We can get to know students as readers, writers, and individuals, not just scores. #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    @kelsey_corter I'll share the kindergarten one with you. You'll like it. Just make a copy and then add your kids. You'll make it ten times better, I'm sure. #g2great
    In reply to @MissBecker627, @kelsey_corter
  • BallingerCierra Oct 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A5. Moments when Ts are able to step back & kid watch are so important. By observing & listening to Ss interact w/ their peers during turn & talk provides T's with an insight on how a S is processing the content. #g2great
  • DrLMaucione Oct 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Kidwatching and formative assessment give more insight into a child's reading/writing process than just the numbers (or a level) can. #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Thanks for sharing!! #G2Great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1
  • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    #G2Great A6 we are often asking the wrong ?s instead of what does this tell us ask what is not represented; instead of why didn’t the Ss levels change ask what is this student doing today that they weren’t doing the last time you looked at data
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Absolutely Kasey and I find that when we have a student PHOTo at the data meeting and use the child’s name, our dialogue tends to be more student centered (and it should be) #G2Great
    • LiteracyCoachKS Oct 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT
      #G2Great A6 we must not replace names and faces with numbers and colors; as I believe Mary once shared it should be a rule to tell 3 things about a S outside of every 1 data pt on a spreadsheet
  • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Assessments that end in data points perhaps can give us a sense of WHAT is missing but formative assessment can give us the WHY. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6 Formative assessment adds the color because it’s not removed from instruction but embedded w/in it. That offers a process-based view of children rather than product-based view numbers give us. #G2Great
  • b_emmade Oct 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    When a 2nd grader picks a book, they need to tell me what it is. I have them tell me the title. If they can't...I let them know that they ought to pick a different book! #g2great #litbankstreet
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6: Getting to know the students true colors is what matters. #g2great #LitBankStreet
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6: Formative assessment allows you to look at the whole child - this can add REAL color to our decision making because the direction we move in will be unique to our students and keep them engaged. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    And the why is so much more important! I love how you said this!! #G2Great
    In reply to @LitROCK_taylor
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6 Crap in ---> Crap out. If we're assessing meaningful stuff, it's worth it. Otherwise... #g2great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A7. It's important to me to model a variety of ways to collect formative data in PD sessions. (Process over product) Learning over #s. Every.single.session! #G2Great
  • PaulWHankins Oct 11 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Kitchen Lessons: Zig Ziglar used to talk about homemade biscuits. How they "squat" just a moment before proofing. If they don't, they burn. He would say, "Well. These squatted to rise but they got cooked in the squat." If that's not standardized assessment right there. #g2great
    In reply to @hayhurst3, @franmcveigh, @MelanieMeehan1
  • Doyle_Teaching7 Oct 11 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Kid watching and formative assessments provides the 3D lens we need to view and celebrate the whole child, not the limiting color chart version of ‘Flat Stanley’ #G2Great
  • johnnydowney Oct 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A7 I would like to bring balance to future conversations about Ss needs. I want to bring light to the stronger, formative assessments, and help Ts find answers to questions they have about instructional design. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A7 We need ample profession learning around the role of formative assessment in our schools because it simply is NOT a high priority in far too many schools. I want to support my schools/teachers with this in mind. #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Agreed! They also don't help with the HOW - the know-how comes from working with Ss every day as does the what and the why. #G2Great
    In reply to @MissBecker627, @LitROCK_taylor
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A7: I want to have more formative assessments and be sure I am recording them. This way later I can evaluate my notes and use them to navigate my teaching. It is so easy as teachers to get caught up and forget to record things! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • trevorabryan Oct 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A7 As a choice art teacher, I want to not only spend time observing and talking to the students who struggle to engage the art process, I want become more strategic/informed in my attempts to help them engage. #g2great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    I agree 100%! Even when teachers practice formative assessment, many simply don't know what to do with it afterward. #g2great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT
      A7 We need ample profession learning around the role of formative assessment in our schools because it simply is NOT a high priority in far too many schools. I want to support my schools/teachers with this in mind. #G2Great
  • BallingerCierra Oct 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A6. Kidwatching and formative assessments help us to see who the student really is and what they need! Not just a number or data on a piece of paper. They are the ones who add the brightest colors; not the spreadsheets. #g2great
  • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A7: I want to have a flexible curriculum and plan activities with intentionality to meet the learning needs of all my students. I will take more notes and plan more conferences! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
  • jdsniadecki Oct 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A7: can I steal your answer? I think we all need more learning about true assessments — PD is the key! Also, thanks, everyone for these awesome answers! #G2Great
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • WGoldsmith88 Oct 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Learning how to collect more formative assessments and bringing them into the classroom #g2great #LitBankSteeet
  • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A7: I would like to make more time to keep record of my formative assessments and reflect on them. I often have many in the moment assessments - there may be a lot going on and it's easy to lose track. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    And what makes that so crucial is that we aren’t looking for one shot information but PATTERNS OVER TIME. There’s no way we can hold all of that so we need a visual paper trail of comparison, #G2Great
    • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:23 PM EDT
      A7: I want to have more formative assessments and be sure I am recording them. This way later I can evaluate my notes and use them to navigate my teaching. It is so easy as teachers to get caught up and forget to record things! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A7 Basals have regained foothold in our schools of late and adds a worrisome assessment issue. End of the unit tests pay homage to publishers – not KIDS. Sadly, we have our priorities backwards. #G2Great
  • ssvincent Oct 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A7. I would want district level administrators to start making brave decisions about mandated assessments. Somebody needs to step up and end some of the madness. (That’s not really an answer to the question but I wanted to say it LOL) #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Close second on the humor! #g2great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Smiling big over here you are making me shake my head yes yes yes. There is so much truth here it's about meaningful experiences and relevance that's why choice has to be part of assessment too. #G2Great
    In reply to @PaulWHankins, @franmcveigh, @MelanieMeehan1
  • PaulWHankins Oct 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    As a fan of puzzles, I know that sorting out the frame gives me a sense of what the completed picture will look like (summative). I take great delight, however, when large chunks of the working picture begin to bridge within and begin to connect to the frame (formative). #g2great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Oct 11 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Thanks #g2great-- Important topic and some great ideas. Have a good weekend everyone!
  • jdsniadecki Oct 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    THANK YOU @franmcveigh @hayhurst3 @brennanamy and @DrMaryHoward for the wonderful time chatting! I can’t wait to see you — soon! #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Exactly! Patterns can SO telling, but easy to miss if not recording them down. Definitely going to work on this moving forward! #G2Great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Thumbs up on that Melanie! #G2Great
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @MelanieMeehan1
  • Doyle_Teaching7 Oct 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A7More kid watching and facilitating discussions with grade level about effective assessment to grow all of our kiddos:) #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A7 Our after-the-chat WAKE allows us time to peruse chat artifacts and reflect on things we missed the first time around. It a great #G2great trip down Twitter chat memory lane! @www.wakelet.com/@DrMaryHoward
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    I can't wait to see you too Jennifer #G2Great hits the road to #NCTE18
    In reply to @jdsniadecki, @franmcveigh, @brennanamy, @DrMaryHoward
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    33 days #NCTE18 #g2great
    In reply to @jdsniadecki, @hayhurst3, @brennanamy, @DrMaryHoward
  • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A6: Real life talk. Student said, “I saw E. reading this book so I got it and I just have to tell you about it.” (tells me). I said I will read it too and we can talk about it. He said, “Really? You would do that for me?” This taught me more than his test score. #G2Great
  • lisahburns Oct 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    So enjoyed all of the great thinkers here tonight. Thank you! #g2great
  • rlegrant Oct 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    I agree! Things move so quickly, it can be east to lose track- but I think taking the time to reflect is SO important! #G2Great #LitBankStreet
    • jennyrose_says Oct 11 @ 9:24 PM EDT
      A7: I would like to make more time to keep record of my formative assessments and reflect on them. I often have many in the moment assessments - there may be a lot going on and it's easy to lose track. #G2Great #LitBankStreet
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A final closing quote #G2Great Who is tasting the soup? Why does it matter? @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy @hayhurst3
  • LitROCK_taylor Oct 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Always keep reflection as a must do after any assessment. What did the information gathered tell me about what needs to happen next? If this is skipped, the assessment is powerless. Keep the power in assessments! #G2great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Wow, we can meet Brent! I love that! Woo Hoo! #G2Great #NCTE18
    In reply to @mrbgilson, @franmcveigh, @jdsniadecki, @brennanamy, @DrMaryHoward
  • ThoughtfulRead Oct 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Sadly, we often blame the tests, but we need to look at how many tests kids take getting ready for THE test. In many cases, as Pogo would say: we have met the enemy and it is us. #g2Great
  • JustineeSnow Oct 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    <3 <3 <3 #LitBankStreet #g2great
    • stephreid1228 Oct 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      A6: Real life talk. Student said, “I saw E. reading this book so I got it and I just have to tell you about it.” (tells me). I said I will read it too and we can talk about it. He said, “Really? You would do that for me?” This taught me more than his test score. #G2Great
  • MissBecker627 Oct 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Do you mind sharing with me too? #G2Great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1, @kelsey_corter
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    POWERFUL words Judy … and so absolutely true!! #G2Great
    • ThoughtfulRead Oct 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT
      Sadly, we often blame the tests, but we need to look at how many tests kids take getting ready for THE test. In many cases, as Pogo would say: we have met the enemy and it is us. #g2Great
  • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Thanks, #G2Great Friends, whether you were here just tonight or for any part of our series! Maximizing our Potential has been fun to discuss with you!
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Oct 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    We're thrilled Carl Anderson is joining #G2Great as our guest host next week. Please join us friends as we talk about his amazing new book, A Teacher’s Guide to Writing Conferences @franmcveigh @hayhurst3 @brennanamy @ConferringCarl @HeinemannPub ALERT: https://t.co/hQ4tKbu6Er
  • Doyle_Teaching7 Oct 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Enjoyed thinking with all of you tonight. Thank you! #G2Great
  • LKhezrie Oct 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Thank YOU! Tonight did not disappoint! Love hearing from everyone! #LitBankStreet #G2Great
    • franmcveigh Oct 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT
      Thanks, #G2Great Friends, whether you were here just tonight or for any part of our series! Maximizing our Potential has been fun to discuss with you!
  • ShelfieTalk Oct 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Thanks #G2Great for a terrific chat about assessment tonight. Thanks to all who shared perspectives and ideas. See you next week!