#ATchat Archive

#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.

Wednesday January 9, 2019
8:00 PM EST

  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #ATchat. Tonight’s topic is AT Supports for Writing. We will discuss tools and strategies to support all writers. I will be flying solo tonight-looking forward to another exciting conversation.
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Writing. All the writing!! (Animated gif of Kermit the frog typing wildly) #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @KarenJan, @attipscast, @cfrost_disteach, @joyzabala, @JudithSchoonov1, @ksuding, @iplante, @hillarygfphdatp, @KellyFonner, @kbehnke
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Excited for the topic! #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Love it that he is using technology! #ATchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @mmatp, @KarenJan, @attipscast, @cfrost_disteach, @joyzabala, @ksuding, @iplante, @hillarygfphdatp, @KellyFonner, @kbehnke
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
    It is so cute! #ATchat
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @wernedat, @mmatp, @KarenJan, @attipscast, @joyzabala, @ksuding, @iplante, @hillarygfphdatp, @KellyFonner, @kbehnke
  • burnickel Jan 9 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Excited I be here tonight!! #atchat
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi #ATchat It looks like tonight's topic is one of my favs! I am Kelli from Indiana, Teacher/Specialist of Autism, Specific Learning Disabilities, Chrome Accessibility, Accessible Ed Materials & Assistive Tech Integration.
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Q1: Let’s try something different tonight! Check out this Padlet so we can brainstorm in two areas. 1. What are some of the characteristics of struggling writers? 2. What are some writing tasks assigned to different grade levels? PADLET: https://t.co/kdk59b0yys #Atchat
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Welcome!! #atchat
    In reply to @ksuding
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hey Kelli! Glad to have you here tonight #ATchat
    In reply to @ksuding
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
    #atchat HI everyone...One of my favorite topics too! My start to my career was as an OT. For those of you who don't know me, I'm President of Don Johnston. Great to be back from the holidays!
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Hi Ruth - happy to have you here tonight! #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:07 PM EST
    READ: Effective Framework for Primary Grade Guided Writing Instruction. https://t.co/yB2nXNvrHX #ATchat
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:08 PM EST
    I love Padlet! #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Great info being added to the padlet for Q1! Check it out here https://t.co/kdk59b0yys #Atchat
  • bcdtech Jan 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Hi Mike, I will be in and out... once again trying to multitask and proving that I cannot #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    glad to have you here! #ATchat
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Q2: Let’s start with the motor aspect of writing. What types of supports / strategies do you use to support students with handwriting issues? #ATchat
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    This almost feels like we are all holding our breath underwater working on Padlet and about to come up for air! Love the different shift @mmatp as you man this #ATchat solo!
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    This! "Shut down, often have lots to say verbally but their written work doesn’t match their verbal stories". See this so so so often! #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
    READ: WATI Assessing Student’s Needs for AT: Chapter 5-AT for Writing, Including Motor Aspects. https://t.co/D4gv9WFjgp #ATchat
  • burnickel Jan 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2: grips, slant boards, seating support, modified paper, typing, STT, word prediction, word banks! #atchat
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Q2-Raised line paper, a variety of writing utensils, slant boards, seating options for starters. #atchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Low tech- grips- adapted pencils- higher tech- iPad, voice typing, word prediction, audio recording. Whatever works! #AtChat
  • bwhuz Jan 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
    #atchat Been using snap type pro app and a keyboard
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
    I love the "whatever works!" #atchat
    In reply to @hillarygfphdatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    RESOURCE: Overview of Alternative Pencils from The Center for Literacy and Disability Studies at UNC Chapel Hill. https://t.co/Qti9fnK4zV #ATchat
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2: Speech-to-text, word prediction, video, verbal expression, adapted writing utensils, keyboarding #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Great point from Q1: Characteristics of struggling writers: "Also, when writing problems are identified, there is confusion whether it is let her formation, hand writing, literacy, communication, etc." #ATchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Would you mind telling me more about how it works for you? #atchat
    In reply to @bwhuz
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    This is a great point. Even..Is it #dyslexia? #Atchat
    • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
      Great point from Q1: Characteristics of struggling writers: "Also, when writing problems are identified, there is confusion whether it is let her formation, hand writing, literacy, communication, etc." #ATchat
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    And always sad when the assumption is the child is defiant or doesn't know 'how' to express ideas. #atchat
    In reply to @wernedat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    I am presenting a session at #atia19 called iPad vs Chromebook: The 10 Round Main Event. We will have 10 edu tasks, complete them on each device, audience will determine a winner! Have an idea for a task? Leave it on the @flipgrid https://t.co/SxgZDcCpOO #ATchat
  • EmilyGranieroAT Jan 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Emily Graniero from CT joining a bit late. #Atchat
  • EmilyGranieroAT Jan 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: graphic organizers and outlines to begin brainstorming and organizing thoughts. #atchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Also, magnetic letters, word banks, dry erase boards, sentence strips, Wikki Stix, Mr. Spacy, color-coded paper, writing masks, editing checklists. #ATchat
    In reply to @hillarygfphdatp
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    This sounds like fun! Love the idea and the fact that it is hands on! #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @Flipgrid
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Q3: Do you use writing checklists ot visual supports to promote writing success? Low or High Tech? Share your successes / struggles with this strategy #ATchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    It’s not the child, as we know. What is it about the task, method, etc? What are the barriers? Are there choices? Options? Is writing (curriculum) flexible or inflexible? #atchat
    In reply to @cfrost_disteach, @wernedat
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Ah yes. This is why I am advocate for relationship building to help navigate to the CORE of what is really going on with the Ss. Defiance is present for a reason, its our job to help find the "why" and then teach them the "how." #Atchat
    In reply to @cfrost_disteach, @wernedat
  • kellygrillo Jan 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2: Completely in love with the features of grammerly & it now makes predictions in my most needy areas! Works with TTS and when I’m typing. Plus gives me weekly reports to grow from! #atchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Clearly I need to learn to edit myself before I click done! #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    This will be a fab session! #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @Flipgrid
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    I like Grammarly but unfortunately it has some privacy issues which make my district unwilling to use it. Hoping that they fix it. #ATchat
    In reply to @kellygrillo
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    After 16 years of working with students with Emotional and Behavioral Disabilities and often finding it is an academic or motor deficit that is being masked by the behaviors, this response makes me so happy! "defiance is present for a reason!" Thank you! #atchat
    In reply to @ksuding, @wernedat
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A3: Digital graphic organizers for our writers to use the speech-to-text accommodations can be a GAME CHANGER. I love this free resource...ALL fillable PDFs https://t.co/AhcYvqPXVk #Atchat
    • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
      Q3: Do you use writing checklists ot visual supports to promote writing success? Low or High Tech? Share your successes / struggles with this strategy #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    We hope so! Hopefully you will be there #ATchat
    In reply to @hillarygfphdatp, @Flipgrid
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Yes! Presume writing competence!Look into Gretchen Hansen’s alternative pencils #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @hillarygfphdatp
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Q3- I was a huge fan of the add-on "Keywords" for Google Docs- Used it to create outlines for students that they could open up and use for writing. Unfortunately, there is a current glitch with it and it is no longer working. :-( #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:21 PM EST
    I remember someone posted to the QIAT listserv that they were aware of the issues and had no plan to update to resolve those issues #ATchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @kellygrillo
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3: Sketching as well! #Atchat
    • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
      Q3: Do you use writing checklists ot visual supports to promote writing success? Low or High Tech? Share your successes / struggles with this strategy #ATchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:21 PM EST
    And use speak as I type features so that students find the letter on the keyboard, see it appear on the screen, and hear it pronounced. #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @hillarygfphdatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    This is what I love about First Author. All students can write! #ATchat
    • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
      A3: In First Author, the instruction ties to strategy tip sheets. Yes...all students can learn writing strategies!
      In reply to @mmatp
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Agree! Accessible graphic organizers are great tools. #atchat
    In reply to @ksuding
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Oh I can't wait to check these out! Struggling a lot with having district-wide access to speech to text regarding the thought that now that the student can use that, they should be able to write well... without being taught fundamentals of writing! #atchat
    In reply to @ksuding
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Yeah, I know Mike but let a girl still hold out some hope OK? 😏 #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @kellygrillo
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    I can't wait to share this with my OT friend. I told here about the chat today and this was her question! Thx Kelli-I will give you credit of course :) #ATchat
    In reply to @ksuding
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    :) you are right - I shouldn't crush dreams like that! #ATchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @kellygrillo
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    We need time to explore with our learners what tools work best for which task. Teach them how to sample and enjoy the buffet with intention. #ATChat
    • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
      Q3: Do you use writing checklists ot visual supports to promote writing success? Low or High Tech? Share your successes / struggles with this strategy #ATchat
  • burnickel Jan 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3: agree with accessible graphic organizes! I’ve used google slides for this also #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    READ: WATI Assessing Student’s Needs for AT: Chapter 6-AT for Composition of Written Material. https://t.co/VfBC7RvBJf #Atchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Until remediation clicks, AT Sticks! #ATChat
    In reply to @cfrost_disteach, @ksuding
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    When possible, I have my students create their own writing checklist. Sometimes they are put into a PowerPoint with dictation,a mini book, or a foldable, so they also become a graphic organizer. #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Yes! I have also used Google Slides for this #ATchat
    In reply to @burnickel
  • kellygrillo Jan 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Q3: I’ve been using lots of writing frames to support Ss to develop connective tissue/muscle memory in writing. For 5 minutes they FREE write USING a concept map we’ve constructed the day prior & when I post my anchor chart Ss r allowed to use my frame verbatim if needed. #atchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    You know it- everyone needs a heckler... ;-) #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @Flipgrid
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Q4: For many Ss note taking is a huge area of need. Talk about some strategies / solutions you use to support Ss in this area of writing #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Happy to have the hecklers! #Atchat #atia19
    In reply to @hillarygfphdatp, @Flipgrid
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    https://t.co/KletNE7UwI #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @hillarygfphdatp
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
    #atchat I agree too. Here's the thing...with all the standards, our students really need to master 3 graphic organizers. I can tell you that my daughter has survived college by having had lots of practice and strategies built on this.
    In reply to @hillarygfphdatp, @ksuding
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Q4- outline notes, audio note options such as Echo Pens and Sonocent, students being provided with notes so they can just listen during the class. #atchat
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
    I'm going to go to one of your #ATIA19 sessions. Live heckling is the BEST! #ATchat #kiddingnotkidding
    In reply to @mmatp, @hillarygfphdatp, @Flipgrid
  • bwhuz Jan 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Q4 Fill in the blank notes or pre printed notes depending on level of need #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A-4 When notes are available digitally, teaching students to highlight important aspects and using specialized software, collecting the highlights for reference #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • OTkristy90 Jan 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    In my experience, a mismatch between processing speed and motor system efficiency almost always creates behaviors/stress of some type in bright kids I.e quick processing/slow motor #atchat
    In reply to @cfrost_disteach, @ksuding, @wernedat
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    This works well- especially now with ChromeOS dictation working in google slides! #ATChat
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Going to #atia19 Make sure to join us Fri. night for @edcampAccessInt FREE TIX: https://t.co/acYOofmPsx #ATchat
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    My ticket is ready to go! Looking forward to it. #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Bring it on! It keeps the sessions fun #Atchat [Gif:The Rock saying Bring it on]
    In reply to @ksuding, @hillarygfphdatp, @Flipgrid
  • VIPKidTeacherIN Jan 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Just finished teaching classes with #VIPKid! If you want to make money teaching from home, click here to get started: https://t.co/Kz81GVk1AI #1to1techchat #FLEDchat #EarlyLang #scchat #122edchat #ATchat #miched #workfromhome
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Let’s do this- it’ll be the bomb diggity! (Hehehe) #atchat
    In reply to @ksuding, @mmatp, @Flipgrid
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Also, Mark your calendar for the second annual Maker day on Saturday! #atia19 #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4: Spending time with one of my teams creating a workflow for converting paper docs into digital files for note taking #Atchat
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
    oh I want to do this so bad, but I have to fly out Saturday morning because we have a foreign exchange student flying in that day! #atchat
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
    I agree....#atchat. My daughter has shown me how note taking becomes even more important in college. Digital notes are critical, recordings that synch with notes are also important.
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp
  • burnickel Jan 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4: recentlylooked into @PearDeck for interactive lessons- think this would be a good tool to take ‘notes’ with too! #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:33 PM EST
    LISTEN: The Cult of Pedagogy- 7 Easy Ways to Support Student Writing in Any Content Area. https://t.co/J202GI4RMv #ATchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:33 PM EST
    There’s going to be a lot of tweeting going on, perhaps you can participate that way! #atia19 #ATchat
    In reply to @cfrost_disteach, @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4: I am loving the LiveScribe 3 Smartpen. It will blow your mind is it automatically syncs to your device when taking notes. #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
    It was a fantastic event. Can't wait for this year @at_makers #ATchat
    • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:33 PM EST
      AT maker day was a blast. My favorite memory from last year was watching a High School girl talk to a middle school girl about coding! So cool to see girls excited about coding!
      In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I would love to! I have a layover, so it would give me something to do in the airport! #atchat
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
    We are all about assistive technology and access. Perhaps we can FaceTime you and you can be carried around for participation. ha ha #Atchat
    In reply to @cfrost_disteach, @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5: I recently got the newest Livescribe Pen. So much smaller than previous versions. Looks more like a "regular" pen. Really nice #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Q5: During the drafting stage, what can we do to support Ss with generating ideas and organization of ideas? #ATchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
    I’ve heard they’ve come a long way- good to know! #atchat
    In reply to @ksuding
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Hehehe! I love it! A great demo. #atchat
    In reply to @ksuding, @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
    It’s going to be even bigger and better this year thanks to the efforts of @CEO_ATIA , @at_makers , and others! #spreadtheword #atia19 #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt, @CEO_ATIA, @at_makers
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Agreed! #Atchat Wishing I had that in college days.
    In reply to @mmatp
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    #atchat Here's a question for all of you...It seems to me that many feel that speech reco is not cheating but word prediction is....Any ideas of why?
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    They have definitely come along way but it’s also another tool that we have to have parent permission to record every student in the class where the student is using it. Anyone else in the same boat as me? #ATchat
    In reply to @ksuding
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Absolutely! I will coordinate my French students a bit better. Hehehe. #atchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • hillarygfphdatp Jan 9 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A5: We can provide a graphic organizer or mind map to brainstorm ideas. Offer options as to what tool(s) work for the individual. Offer choices as to how we are writing. Allow the process to be messy in order to learn and improve. #AtChat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    WATCH: AT Tools for Writing from @CTDInstitute https://t.co/YHKffwYXqM #ATchat
  • bcdtech Jan 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Yes, we cannot use them due to privacy issues #atchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @ksuding
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    #atchat Being totally transparent that this is a Co:Writer thing but I am Super Excited about our new translation features in Co:Writer. Imagine being a 2nd language learner and knowing a word but not being able to spell or translate it...not a problem anymore with #CoWriter!
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A5- I like letting students record their thought processes , or draw/sketchnote thoughts. #atchat
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    I've been surprised that this isn't an issue in college #atchat (at least for my daughter)
    In reply to @wernedat, @ksuding
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A5:Great question. Often times at the end their ideas end up being ours 4 them due 2 so much prompting. Use of tons of visuals, falling back 2 Ss' experiences, keeping Ss current with events, activities,clubs, peer https://t.co/IOq7qvf9k0 interactions help generate ideas #Atchat
    • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
      Q5: During the drafting stage, what can we do to support Ss with generating ideas and organization of ideas? #ATchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Mark your calendar now!#ATchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @cfrost_disteach, @mmatp, @edcampAccessInt
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    It pops up as an issue every once in a while. I teach at a college and one of my students asked if she could use it in class. I said OF COURSE! She explained that 2 other profs said no. Concern about their int. property #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @wernedat, @ksuding
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    #atchat Here is an idea... I once heard of a district where the teacher recorded all their lessons and posted this. It helped students who needed note taking but also helped students who were out sick for the day!
    In reply to @wernedat, @ksuding
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Glad I’m not alone I guess? #sympathy #ATchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @ksuding
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Q6: Describe a tool / strategy you use for rate enhancement for struggling writers #Atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I work with a teacher doing this for transcribing lectures for one student with Voice Typing in G Docs. She has now started sharing it with everyone. Move from AT >> UDL! #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @wernedat, @ksuding
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I have a teacher that’s doing that now but I got her to use Google slides with the automatic transcription. She loves me now! #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @ksuding
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    I used to regularly record portions of my lessons and flip them to QR codes to copy on the corners of paper activities- helped students when they needed to review information to complete tasks. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @wernedat, @ksuding
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5: I agree...I think we forget that this can and needs to be explicitly taught! #atchat In First Author we do MANY MANY lessons on planning and generating ideas. We teach the students ideas on where to find topics and a lot more. Bottomline...We need good writing instruction!
    In reply to @ksuding
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    We JUST had this brought up by a T at a recent training.That was their concern.I think the thought process of that was use of topic dictionaries & THINKING it was pulling word 4 word in the prediction.I didn't have a chance to dive into the convo but will be a great convo #Atchat
    • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
      #atchat Here's a question for all of you...It seems to me that many feel that speech reco is not cheating but word prediction is....Any ideas of why?
  • OTkristy90 Jan 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    #atchat I love using wp with graphic organizers, as they help the kids with attention/EF issues stay on their line of thought. Sometime the WP does impair the fluidity of the thought process for some kids because of the working memory load.
    In reply to @rziolkowski
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
    WATCH: Writing Strategies for the Reluctant Writer (including Dysgraphia) from @CTDInstitute https://t.co/cHw52JrETO #Atchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A-6 Music and chewing gum depending on the learner. Multi sensory makes a difference. #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Take that one step further: Use Screencastify to record the screen and you now have a video of the lecture with the transcription!! #ATchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @rziolkowski, @ksuding
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A6: Speech-to-text for sure! It is a SKILL that needs to be taught...let's keep that in mind. It's not a tool that u can say "go forth & write" but allows Ss to write fluidly in most cases #ATchat
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:47 PM EST
    @mmatp look at you with the mic drop (gif of man dropping mic) #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @rziolkowski, @ksuding, @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Don’t forget-we are always looking for guest moderators. Fill out the form: https://t.co/wUQEjDPamL #ATchat
  • burnickel Jan 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A6- movement, choice, and increasing engagement! #atchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Oh yes! Many of our writers need visuals to keep their ideas in mind and to articulate them. #ATchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @ksuding
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Thank you! [Gif: Man Taking a bow] #ATchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @rziolkowski, @ksuding
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:50 PM EST
    I'm so glad you mentioned this. YES, sensory! The power of gum chewing...music....standing...markers instead of lead pencils, etc #ATchat
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Q7: Using speech to text is often suggested for struggling writers but frequently abandoned. What causes Ss to abandon this type of writing solution & how can we reduce abandonment? #ATchat
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    How about letting them talk too!? To keep them sharing ideas while processing to write? #atchat
    In reply to @ksuding, @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7: Whenever I discuss speech to text as a writing support, I refer back to this slide from @kellyfonner The Process of Writing with Voice: Think>Compose>Talk>Read>Check>Edit>Repeat So many skills needed beyond the ability to talk! #ATchat
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    You can’t take the OT out of the AT! #ATchat
    In reply to @ksuding, @mmatp
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7: They aren't taught the skill. What looks like grammatical errors causes frustrations, lag time from speaking to text generated, etc. #ATchat
    • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
      Q7: Using speech to text is often suggested for struggling writers but frequently abandoned. What causes Ss to abandon this type of writing solution & how can we reduce abandonment? #ATchat
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Oh take a couple bows man I thought I was doing good introducing the Google slides to her world but then you had to go to one up me congrats. #Atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @rziolkowski, @ksuding
  • bcdtech Jan 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Make it available to all and arrange your classroom to make it possible for kids to feel comfortable- not singled out. #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7- I think students abandon this type of writing because of the stigma attached to writing 'differently' and no instruction/practice in how to arrange thoughts and edit written work that has been input orally. #atchat
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A7: I assume this has a lot to do with logistics. I'll never forget seeing a picture of a student sitting in the HALLWAY because she used speech reco for note taking. #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Great visual and so often forgotten. It takes more than just having access to STT programs! #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @KellyFonner
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:53 PM EST
    They stop doing it because we make it about work before we show them the power of their writing voice in this way. My students write about any and everything they want to before I dare ask them to write for a school assignment. #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • bcdtech Jan 9 @ 8:54 PM EST
    We often have a hallway with a dozen kids spread out- doing STT. It works #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Now you can go back and give her another solution! That's why we do this - make each other better #Atchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @rziolkowski, @ksuding
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Sure can’t. Once an OT, you always look at the world thru those different lenses. #ATchat
    In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @ksuding, @mmatp
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Also, have everyone do it. So often the student who requires speech to text feels stigmatized. It should be modeled by the teachers, and taught to all students. Then let them choose! #ATchat
    In reply to @ksuding
  • rziolkowski Jan 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    I assume you all know about Speech Recognition as AT for Writing manual by @KKey_AT and Daniel Cochrane. https://t.co/jnnUz9xLmQ #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @KellyFonner, @KKey_AT
  • wernedat Jan 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    ❤️ my PLC #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @rziolkowski, @ksuding
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    I wish I could say I had never observed this same thing. #atchat
    In reply to @rziolkowski, @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    In the last few minutes, do you have any other resources to share? (Tools, strategies, resources, etc) #ATchat
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Absolutely. This should be applied to ANY new device/tool that is being introduced. Always start with a choice activity and NOT an assignment #Atchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @mmatp
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the @wakelet from tonight’s #ATchat tomorrow morning
  • JudithSchoonov1 Jan 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Also, start early. Are used to believe that sixth grade or later was the best time when students could think of more abstractly, and compose in their heads. Now I think all students should see the power of their words in print. #ATchat
    In reply to @wernedat, @mmatp
  • ksuding Jan 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
    I'm here and I'm pretty sure I missed a LOT! Super fast #Atchat That's a great thing.
    In reply to @mmatp, @wakelet
  • cfrost_disteach Jan 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Instead of a Resource, I want to reach out for help. I have a T asking if there is any sort of gamified program for writing- She has a student who responds exceedingly well to gamified learning- such as ALEKs Math, Read 180, Read Live, etc. Any ideas? #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Make sure to follow everyone from today’s #atchat Let’s continue to learn and share!
  • mmatp - Moderator Jan 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us tonight and sharing your expertise. We all get better each week because of our #ATchat PLN. Have a great week!