#engsschat Archive

Last Monday of every month, #engchat joins #sschat to form #engsschat. Stephanie Sukow leads this effort and her help is greatly appreciated.

Monday March 26, 2018
7:00 PM EDT

  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Welcome to #engsschat! Thanks for joining in tonight. We're talking All Things Research! Please take a comment to introduce yourself. #engchat #sschat #edchat #elachat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    Welcome to #engsschat! Thanks for joining in tonight. We're talking All Things Research! Please take a comment to introduce yourself. #engchat #sschat #edchat #elachat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    Happy spring break to anyone on break this week! #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    You can preview tonight's questions here: https://t.co/LR3sFvsasx #engsschat
  • scottmpetri Mar 26 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    Scott Petri, HS History teacher joining #engsschat to learn about research and inquiry strategies. Thanks @Steph_Sukow & @CHitch94 for all you do.
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    Chris from Bloomington, IN. Teach world history for a private online HS affiliated w/ Indiana University. Excited to learn from others about how they help Ss develop their researching skills! #engsschat
  • DrewMidgette Mar 26 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    Drew Midgette, HS Social Studies Teacher from Va Beach #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    Hi, Scott! Thanks for joining in tonight. Hope you are well. #engsschat
    In reply to @scottmpetri, @CHitch94
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    It's the last Monday of the month so we're combined with our English Language Arts colleagues for #engsschat rather than #sschat tonight.
    In reply to @tarman68, @jennyktechin
  • kwillmann Mar 26 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Kent Willmann Social Studies Methods Instructor at CU Boulder and career integrated teacher. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Hello, Chris! Excited to chat research with you tonight. #engsschat
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • misshoffman19 Mar 26 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Hi! My name is Allie and I am a preservice teacher from PA. I am excited to chat with everyone tonight! #engsschat #SSMETHODS
    In reply to @Steph_Sukow
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining in tonight, Drew! Welcome to #engsschat
    In reply to @DrewMidgette
  • historycomics Mar 26 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Hi - I teach high school social studies and we are in the midst of the dreaded research paper! #engsschat
  • wakelet Mar 26 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Wakelet is perfect for students and teachers to save and organise research online. You can save pretty much anything with a URL, upload your own images and add text. #engsschat See examples here: Kindergarten teacher: https://t.co/t6Aawnwosy Student: https://t.co/N2kJ8EeVUR
  • Eng_Teacher Mar 26 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Julie in Kansas. I teach 9th grade ELA, we are currently in week 2 of the research paper process: highlighting and annotating sources. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining tonight, Allie! Welcome to #engsschat.
    In reply to @misshoffman19
  • tarman68 Mar 26 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Jason Russo. Holocaust educator and as teacher. Never did a chat before but I know the importance of research especially in my field. #engsschat
  • MissHunsberger Mar 26 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Jessica from Kansas City. Teach world history for an online high school. Soooo excited to learn from everyone about this topic!!!! #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Love the genius hour! Can't wait to hear more. Thanks for joining us tonight! #engsschat.
    In reply to @MissThorson
  • DarrenHause Mar 26 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    This is what I need! Darren here, a social studies from SoCal. Too bad I’m occupied for next 30 mins so I’ll try to do more than just lurking. #engsschat
  • WebArchivist Mar 26 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Good evening. I'm an archivist with @ncarchives hanging around to learn how we can better help teachers & students. If you've got a topic you need primary resources for ask me & I'll try to get you a link to an archival collection. #engchat #sschat #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    The first question is coming up! Thanks again for joining in! #engsschat
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Mary from CO joining #engsschat tonight. Love @CAsocialstudies "reach across the aisle" intro! The @librarycongress is the official research service for each side of that other aisle.
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Welcome, Darren! Thanks for joining in #engsschat
    In reply to @DarrenHause
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Q1: Research and inquiry are valuable experiences for Ss. How do you incorporate #research and #inquiry into your classroom? #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Glad to have you with us tonight! #engsschat
    In reply to @WebArchivist, @NCArchives
  • rcollins_edu Mar 26 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Glad to be a part of #engsschat. This is my second time participating! I teach middle school social studies in CA and work closely with our ELA teachers.
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining us tonight, Jessica! Welcome to #engsschat
    In reply to @MissHunsberger
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Glad to have you with us tonight, Jason! #engsschat
    In reply to @tarman68
  • MrAllardSS Mar 26 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Hey #engsschat Doug, 7th grade SS teacher in Clifton Springs NY
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight's chat, Kent! #engsschat
    In reply to @kwillmann
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Hello all! Working as a substitute, and actually working my way towards a second endorsement in ELA. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Glad to have you with us tonight, Doug! #engsschat
    In reply to @MrAllardSS
  • tarman68 Mar 26 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    I have students use iwitness website. Thousands of hours of survivor Holocaust testimony that is cross referenced. #engsschat
  • DrewMidgette Mar 26 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    A1- I incorporate inquiry by having the students look for the questions versus just the answers. I'm a big fan of the QFT strategy! #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Good evening #engsschat Liz hs APGov & World T from CA joining tonight.
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    A1: Just started the I-Search with my Junior English Ss. They are research a question crafted around their idea of happiness and the American Dream. #research #engsschat
  • Dale_Chu Mar 26 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @Steph_Sukow and @CHitch94 moderating a talk on the research process. Follow along at #engsschat!
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    The format of my research can be found at this link: https://t.co/6bKGfPGzf0. It is such a great source for elementary students. #engsschat #edchat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    Glad to see you, Liz! Hope you are well! #engsschat
    In reply to @historytechie
  • kwillmann Mar 26 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    A1 How is The Grapes of Wrath like the Katrina flood in New Orleans? Using Spike Lee's When the Levees Broke. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    This sounds awesome! I love the multi-text approach. #engsschat
    In reply to @kwillmann
  • CAsocialstudies Mar 26 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    A1 Choice is the first step in engaging Ss in inquiry. Love how Cindy H. describes the First Person Research Paper. Great way to help Ss learn #research & #narrative https://t.co/HOoNrjZ4c5 #engsschat
  • hggilman Mar 26 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Kim in KC, 7/8 SS #sschat #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    A1) Always encourage Ss to ask questions - and to try to find the answers. #engsschat
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    A1. No #research or #inquiry without a librarian as co-teacher. #engsschat #tlchat
  • historycomics Mar 26 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    A1 we identify a question first - the research. Inquiry to me means curiosity. I allow my students to choose the topic they want to research after they pitch it to me. Comics and graphic novels often offer up some quick and interesting topics. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Welcome to #engsschat. So glad to have you with us!
    In reply to @emilyjhuffman
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    I'll have to look that up. Do you have any guidelines for how and what students choose for questions? #engsschat
    In reply to @DrewMidgette
  • DrewMidgette Mar 26 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    This sounds really cool! We study the American Dream in my gov classes. #engsschat
    In reply to @Steph_Sukow
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    How much time does every devote to research in their classroom? #engsschat #edchat
  • kwillmann Mar 26 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    A1 Journey's Unit - comparing Into the Wild to Lewis and Clark and many others #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    We've had a lot of cross-over between athletics and leadership, business and entrepreneurship, mental health, and family/relationship questions. So many great ideas! #engsschat
    In reply to @MissThorson
  • MrAllardSS Mar 26 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    This doc can be used so much. During student teaching I used this during my entire time in a Particapation in Government class #engsschat
    In reply to @kwillmann
  • rcollins_edu Mar 26 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    A1) My students deep dive into inquiry but often times I provide the primary/secondary source material. Students work around Essential Questions. I want to build those research skills at the same time, hoping to learning something new. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    Junior year, Ss research quite a bit. It's awesome. So many different types of texts being studied and read. #engsschat
    In reply to @MissThorson
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    A1 Structure topics to guide in beginning then more Ss choice in topics. Inquiry with hyper docs and web quests #engsschat
  • MrAllardSS Mar 26 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    A1 Use inquiry a lot. Ss use docs to answer questions. Honestly not doing enough of student research #engsschat
  • scottmpetri Mar 26 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    A1 I have also adapted the 1st person research or I-search paper for inquiries on the Vietnam War. https://t.co/E9a2VbHz7E #engsschat More engagement, less plagiarism.
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    Love your multi-genre texts - especially the use of graphic novels is so engaging. #engsschat
    In reply to @historycomics
  • MissHunsberger Mar 26 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    A1. I haven't found the right recipe for this yet in a fully online setting. I try to create research opportunities students can use their interests for #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    Wow, this chat is moving so fast. I cannot wait to close read these archives! #engsschat
  • hggilman Mar 26 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    A1: trying out QFT this year, focusing on open questions. Research is mostly in primary source material @RightQuestion #engsschat
  • history_hoffman Mar 26 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    Kirstyn! American history teacher from South Florida ☀️#engsschat
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    A1. Best approach to student research starts with student questions & student choice using @RightQuestion #QFT protocol. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight's chat! #engsschat
    In reply to @history_hoffman
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    So many great conversations come from defining their own dreams and ideas of success! #engsschat
    In reply to @DrewMidgette
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    Love the use of primary sources! Can't wait to hear more. #engsschat
    In reply to @hggilman, @RightQuestion
  • misshoffman19 Mar 26 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    A1 In my future classroom I would have my students write down a question and then have them research the topic to answer their own question. #engsschat #SSMETHODS
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    Question 2 is coming up! #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    A1 Research gives Ss opportunity to go deeper on topic and develop skills. Inquiry helps Ss how to explore & navigate sites- esp in gov quests. Need reliability check too. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    Q2: What skills do you want your Ss to have in terms of researching? What skills do they need further practice with? #engsschat
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    Let me know how I can help. QFT and primary sources make beautiful music together. #engsschat
    In reply to @hggilman, @RightQuestion
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    Providing a set of sources can be really effective at getting younger Ss over the hump of finding reasonable sources and getting them engaged with the interpretive process. I would personally ask them to include one source not provided by me. #engsschat
    In reply to @rcollins_edu
  • DarrenHause Mar 26 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    Can’t agree any more!!! #engsschat
    In reply to @johnsonmaryj
  • rcollins_edu Mar 26 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    I appreciate the idea, this would be manageable for my students. #engsschat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • DrewMidgette Mar 26 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    A2- First, I want students to be able to distinguish between reliable and non reliable sources. I also want them to recognize bias. #engsschat
  • historycomics Mar 26 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    Yes! Reliability check. My students have to submit source credibility sheets before any real research is done. They need to sell me on the source’s credibility and for a partner #engsschat
    In reply to @historytechie
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    A2: In a world with so much information at their fingertips, my goal is to teach Ss to evaluate credibility and discern accurate information. #engsschat
  • juliejgiese Mar 26 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    A1: I have students brainstorm questions about a topic they are interested in as a group. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    Absolutely! Credibility is so important when they have so much information available to them online. #engsschat
    In reply to @historycomics, @historytechie
  • kwillmann Mar 26 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    A2 - To be able to answer their own questions, to be prepared for college and to be able to evaluate sources. #engsschat
  • TraceyHughes9 Mar 26 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    Q1 My 10th grade American Lit Ss research an aspect of historical context of The Color Purple then retread some aspect of the novel through lens of their research. Great possible topics. #engsschat
  • MissHunsberger Mar 26 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    A2 I really want them to understand how to create and support an opinion/argument with their research. Being able to think about how to use the sources to learn about the topic is a long process #engsschat
  • scottmpetri Mar 26 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    A2 I like to assign annotated bibliographies on a topic instead of full-fledged research papers. https://t.co/Lqrh9cdFrL Lot's of room for choice and source analysis. #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    A2 Corroborating evidence. Fact checking & evaluating credibility of sources. Incorporating counterclaims needs work. Understand POV. #engsschat
  • kwillmann Mar 26 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    A2 - They need practice with all the skills - just like all of us. #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    A2: I want my Ss to have the skills to recognize bias in source material and include that in how they interpret data. #engsschat
  • DrewMidgette Mar 26 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    I like this idea! #engsschat
    In reply to @historycomics, @historytechie
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    A2: My hope is that Ss learn to evaluate the information they find and understand how to use that information to draw their own conclusions. #engsschat
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    I want them to know the process and where to find reliable sources. #engsschat #edchat
  • HeartlandLC Mar 26 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    Hi! I'm a former English teacher, turned state literacy lead, turned literacy grant director turned co-founder of a personalized teacher professional learning startup. Ready to get back to the roots a bit! :-) #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    Yes, they need way more practice with research then we usually can provide. It is such a complex and important skill. #engsschat
    In reply to @kwillmann
  • juliejgiese Mar 26 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    A2: I want my students to take notes well. They want to quickly jump from reading a source to putting it in a product. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight's chat, #engsschat! Thanks for joining us.
    In reply to @HeartlandLC
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    A2 My Ss need more practice in writing, peer editing and revising--- imp part of research. Also, narrowing topic/thesis. #engsschat
  • hggilman Mar 26 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    A2) Sourcing and corroborating primary sources—we use SHEG @StanfordEd but also Ss need to be open to more than whatever the first hit on a search engine and apply those same skills to online research #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    A2) Using a variety of sources (primary, secondary, old, new, print, digital, audio, text, video, images, etc.), taking their time to find many resources and actually READ them carefully, recognize that all sources won't work out but you can still learn from them. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    Yes! Annotated bibs are a great way to demonstrate understanding of many texts, too! #engsschat.
    In reply to @scottmpetri
  • kwillmann Mar 26 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    A2 - What is the difference between research for higher education purposes and research for life purposes? #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    Yesssssssss! 👉👉👉 So good! #engsschat
    In reply to @historytechie
  • misshoffman19 Mar 26 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    A2 A skill I want my students to have when researching is having the ability to identify reliable and accurate sources. #engsschat #SSMETHODS
  • Eng_Teacher Mar 26 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    A2: My Ss need more practice in evaluating quality sources, determining between vague info and specific details, and assessing credibility of sources/writers (and I would say just knowing how to skim info). #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    I love all this talk about understanding credibility and practicing research skills, I'd love to talk primary sources for a minute! #engsschat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    Hey #engsschat, sorry to be hopping on late, been chasing sun on spring break.
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    Q2b: Do you have Ss use primary research? What types of primary research do you use in your classroom? #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    A2 Ss need more practice using database and search beyond first two or three sources & skim for info-- NEED to read! #engsschat
  • MrsDevlinSS Mar 26 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    Hi, #engsschat ! I'm a bit late. Katie from PA here - I teach 7th grade Geography
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    Glad to share! QFT is a Question Formulation Technique (protocol) from @RightQuestion that starts with a question focus (not a focus question) and leads students to generate & prioritize their own questions. #engsschat https://t.co/Z3cIx4Z4e2
    In reply to @rcollins_edu, @hggilman, @RightQuestion, @RightQuestion
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    So glad to have you with us tonight! Welcome to #engsschat
    In reply to @dwsteven
  • MrAllardSS Mar 26 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    A2 Ss need to know research is not just what I can find through @google Would like Ss to learn about different sources, good vs bad sources, etc #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    Yes, this is so critical! There are so many different types of sources with powerful information to discover. Ss often don't realize this. #engsschat
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • TraceyHughes9 Mar 26 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    A2 Using scholarly sources, notetaking especially being able to summarize, #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight's chat, Katie! #engsschat
    In reply to @MrsDevlinSS
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2B I have them do both. Use database, sometimes I curate PS I want used, sometimes they source them. #engsschat
  • kwillmann Mar 26 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2b - Interviews with Vietnam Vets compared to A Separate Peace. #engsschat
  • MissHunsberger Mar 26 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2b. I have a research project using ww2 photos. They pick a photo from the list taken from the National archives and use the caption to research the event pictured and it's impact. I wish our curriculum had more opportunities for Ss to work with primary docs #engsschat
  • MrsDevlinSS Mar 26 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2 Discernment when it comes to sources! With fake news becoming such a thing now as well, credibility and reliability need to be taught front and center! #engsschat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A2: We live drowning in a deluge of information. I want students to be discerning consumers of that information assessing its trustworthiness, accuracy, bias, etc. Media literacy in an age of seemingly endless media is paramount. #engsschat
  • ogybuns Mar 26 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    I've been using this in my SS classes this year and find it powerful. I need some more PD to elevate it to the next level. #engsschat
    • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:20 PM EDT
      Glad to share! QFT is a Question Formulation Technique (protocol) from @RightQuestion that starts with a question focus (not a focus question) and leads students to generate & prioritize their own questions. #engsschat https://t.co/Z3cIx4Z4e2
      In reply to @rcollins_edu, @hggilman, @RightQuestion, @RightQuestion
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:23 PM EDT
    A2b: I am having Ss conduct an interview over break to learn from a mentor, coach, or leader in their field to find out more about achieving their American Dreams. Interviewing practice is so important. #engsschat
  • rcollins_edu Mar 26 @ 7:23 PM EDT
    A2 My students this year are doing really well w/ selecting evidence & interpreting docs with POV/bias in mind. They need support in the areas of consistently citing and communicating meaning from their sources to support their thesis/argument. #engsschat
  • misshoffman19 Mar 26 @ 7:23 PM EDT
    Annotated bibliographies are great! I think they would also be helpful as a first step when beginning a research papers #engsschat #SSMETHODS
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    Sounds like a powerful experience for your Ss! #engsschat
    In reply to @kwillmann
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    I love the differentiation between vague and specific info. I feel like often Ss end up with vague info just because they are in a rush. Does anybody disagree or see another reason? #engsschat
    In reply to @Eng_Teacher
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    FYI for those interested, the TPS Teachers Network (https://t.co/3MQTo4qwvM) has a great album tool that lets you curate your own sets of primary sources. DM me if interested in joining. #engsschat
  • Eng_Teacher Mar 26 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    A2b: My freshmen complete a research paper over Japanese American internment camps, so we use https://t.co/piOdHlla3E. It contains several archived interviews with videos and transcripts, which are well-organized. We have used the Densho Digital Archive in the past. #engsschat
  • juliejgiese Mar 26 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    I always provide a link to what notes should look like. I also require seeing notes before they can move on to a product. #engsschat
    In reply to @MissThorson
  • TraceyHughes9 Mar 26 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    More A2 - Finding and using book sources and scholarly articles from JSTOR or Proquest, deciding on structure to present research, and synthesizing sources #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    Yes. Research skills needs to be taught across the curriculum, not just in ELA & social studies. #engsschat
    • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:18 PM EDT
      Yes, they need way more practice with research then we usually can provide. It is such a complex and important skill. #engsschat
      In reply to @kwillmann
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    A2B Fordham has many PS for World. US- @TodaysDocument and @USNatArchives Gov- news @govtrack IG and Inst & agency sites #engsschat
  • HeartlandLC Mar 26 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    A2) Finding sources that actually address their research questions in a meaningful way #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    Yes, that face-to-face engagement is so key and can lead to powerful connections with adults in their areas of interest! #engsschat
    In reply to @MrsDevlinSS
  • rcollins_edu Mar 26 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    QFT Question Formulation Technique, guides research and student inquiry #engsschat
    • hggilman Mar 26 @ 7:21 PM EDT
      In reply to @rcollins_edu, @johnsonmaryj, @RightQuestion
  • hggilman Mar 26 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    Citing and gleaning meaning! Mine struggle w this. We use MELCon (I use a modified form for SS and the link is the hardest for than. #engsschat
    In reply to @rcollins_edu
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    Once you start the research process, I would love to know more about how you focus your Ss research questions and scope of inquiry. Q3 is coming up!!! #engsschat
  • WebArchivist Mar 26 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    Do any of you who use databases (or digital collections of primary source materials) ever have students experiment w/ the advance search features/limiting criteria? #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    Interviewing makes the whole process of research feel much more relatable to younger Ss. #engsschat
    In reply to @Steph_Sukow
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    Q3: How do you help Ss create and focus their research questions? #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    A2b: We work with primary sources a good amount in world history & I encourage them to look for primary sources in the limited research activities they do in my online courses. #engsschat
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:27 PM EDT
    A2. I want students to ask Google-proof questions - complex, many layered, interdisciplinary. #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:27 PM EDT
    Hello all. Anyone already have a transcript of #engsschat running? Don't want to start one if a public one is available
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:27 PM EDT
    Primary sources are the best accounts of our history! Love this. #engsschat
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • historycomics Mar 26 @ 7:27 PM EDT
    A3 - I find a lot of success comes with talking to classmates. Part of the assignment is to have a parent or guardian look at their proposal - always fascinating what family history can come in. Only then will I begin talking with the students. It’s not up to me. #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    One source is not hard, and I found that, given the model of the sources provided, 9th graders were able to find some pretty stellar sources. Giving guidance on where to find sources is helpful as well. #engsschat
    In reply to @rcollins_edu
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    A2b: We are using primary sources regularly in my SS classes. The language may be more difficult, & students must wrestle a bit with it, but it’s in that bit of struggle & strain in which there is growth. We also use illustrations & cartoons which help with concepts #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    You bring up a great point about discussing their research and goals. They can learn so much from each other. #engsschat
    In reply to @historycomics
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    I all them to brain storm and then narrow their topic down to one that they are interested in researching. Students need to approve their topic with me before moving on and confirm it with me if they decide to change it. #engsschat #edchat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:29 PM EDT
    I've been talking to Ss about the important of writing their questions in pencil. As we learn more, their questions and searches often change. #engsschat
    In reply to @MissThorson
  • DrewMidgette Mar 26 @ 7:29 PM EDT
    A3- I give student students question starters from Bloom's. We scaffold questions based on readiness. #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:29 PM EDT
    I have such interesting arguments with international scholars. My friends in Norway don't have a word for argumentation and think our idea of equating research to argument is crazy. #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Agree. Adults too. My Ss teacher had a few sites I had to remove from an assignment he wanted to give Ss b/c they were NOT credible. #engsschat
    In reply to @dwsteven
  • MissHunsberger Mar 26 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    A3. It's all about the thesis statement. What do they want to share with the reader? What do they want to communicate with their writing? I also have some starter questions to get students thinking about background/what they know/what they need to research #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Saves on work, and Ss will get more feedback when you aren't the only one giving it! #engsschat
    In reply to @historycomics
  • MrAllardSS Mar 26 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    A3 Using @rightquestion and #qft is a natural approach to help Ss create questions. Can see this be easily adapted to research questions #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    A3: The Media Specialist at my school came in to talk keywords, the power of a thesaurus, and revising their question. Such a great lesson for Ss to refine their searches #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    A3) Have Ss share them with each other, discuss whether the questions are open vs closed (QFT practice could help with this), what types of sources would be useful, is it manageable, etc. #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Makes me reflect on this idea that maybe what we mean by research (which in #engsschat is usually 100% measured by 1-2 writing outcomes) is itself rooted in deep seated biases that must also be questioned
  • MrsDevlinSS Mar 26 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    A3: In order to create successful research, it needs to be based in passion for the student. If there's a way we can loop their interests into it, do it! #engsschat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Probably the best view I’ve ever had while participating in PD #engsschat
  • Eng_Teacher Mar 26 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    A3: We use https://t.co/RpGst7umAA to create a mind map to help students break down the question or topic into sections, categories, and subtopics. It's user-friendly, free, and the mind map easily evolves as Ss conduct research. #engsschat
  • historycomics Mar 26 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    That’s often a big issue - wanting to hold onto a toooc that just isn’t workable. It’s part of the process. We all need to learn when to let go and start over. Just like science. #engsschat
    In reply to @Steph_Sukow, @MissThorson
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Keep Them Accountable! #engsschat
    In reply to @historytechie, @dwsteven
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    This is a great video on identifying keywords for a search: https://t.co/ZHnkHBEHlP #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    I created Symbaloo webmixes with links to useful websites for world history. Many of my Ss use them (they are not required to). #engsschat
    • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:28 PM EDT
      One source is not hard, and I found that, given the model of the sources provided, 9th graders were able to find some pretty stellar sources. Giving guidance on where to find sources is helpful as well. #engsschat
      In reply to @rcollins_edu
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Yes. An important skill we use with @PhotosforClass searches too in my class. #engsschat
    • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:30 PM EDT
      A3: The Media Specialist at my school came in to talk keywords, the power of a thesaurus, and revising their question. Such a great lesson for Ss to refine their searches #engsschat
  • misshoffman19 Mar 26 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    A3 I would have my students brainstorm some possible questions and see if they can find any sources that help answer their question. Once they have one they are interested in, I would have them meet with me to discuss their next steps. #engsschat #SSMETHODS
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Learning to focus questions & being open to new questions which arise during research is big. #engsschat
    In reply to @Steph_Sukow, @MissThorson
  • historycomics Mar 26 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Yep - and we need to remember - the teacher is not the audience for the paper - peers are. If a fellow student doesn’t understand, that’s when more analysis is needed. #engsschat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    When we did our research on developing Internet Reciprocal Teaching understanding and mapping questions was just foreign to students. Questions not only without more answers...but more questions. #engsschat
  • juliejgiese Mar 26 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    A3: This year the kids had a lot of practice writing essential questions at the beginning of the year during the get to know you phase. It has helped a lot with kids writing them the rest of the year. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    Here's another great video for Ss to use when crafting research questions from my school's media specialist! https://t.co/Y9BYNyHSoM #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:33 PM EDT
    With so much talk about credible sources, I'd love to hear how you all teach evaluating sources with Ss. Q4 is coming up! #engsschat
  • wakelet Mar 26 @ 7:33 PM EDT
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  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A3 QFT and table group discussions. #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    I agree that is a big part of the process. Flexibility, knowing that some sources/questions will lead to dead ends but that's o.k. Part of the learning process. #engsschat
    In reply to @historycomics, @Steph_Sukow, @MissThorson
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    I meant conversations not arguments. I think one is an old podcast. meeme look....can't find it somewhere in my Youtube channel. #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Brilliant point! You don't understand it deeply if you can't explain it to a lay person. #engsschat
    In reply to @historycomics
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Q4: How do you help Ss find credible information? #engsschat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A3: I only just switched to middle school this year, so I’m still learning what it is they know & don’t know. I like starting broad though & through a conversation help Ss hone their questions making them more precise. #engsschat
  • AndrewSharosAP Mar 26 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A4: I think modeling the search is the most important strategy. Having students look at credible and non-credible sources together helps them visualize their own searches better #engsschat
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    Curious. Do you think thesis statements are a sacred cow in need of examination? Could powerful questions replace thesis statements and still result in excellent research? #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    a3 We ended up going back to good old thick and thin questions. but it's so much more than that. Kids who "read with mouse in hands" can link to sources in unheard of ways. Still think offline planning however is much better for this stage of research #engsschat
  • scottmpetri Mar 26 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    #cuerockstar @historysandoval has a great resource for evaluating websites. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A4: Knowing how to use databases such as @EBSCO is so key - especially since most colleges use these databases, too. #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Pencil and paper is still the best external storage device in terms of activating deep thinking IMO #engsschat
  • DrewMidgette Mar 26 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A4- You have to help students find credible sources. It's helpful to have them analyze sources and distinguish credible from non-credible information themselves. This is a skill that takes practice! #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A4 Teach Ss to use & require use of school database. Discuss source evaluation & corroboration #engsschat
  • MissHunsberger Mar 26 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A4. This is the hardest topic for me to work with Ss on since everything is online. I made a video on credible sources (reliable sources written by reliable people) that goes into examples and what to look for/how to find it. Still searching for a better method #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A4: I have provided Ss with a Google Doc with a set of links to articles I had pre vetted for quality. Then I required them to find one source not on the list, but using the list as a model. #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A4) I've been using some of the @SHEG_Stanford Civic Online Reasoning lessons with my students and it's getting them to think about the importance of researching a source OUTSIDE the source. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    I have my Ss follow this process. https://t.co/SxK5NVJ38g Questions are important and often need to come first. Thesis/claim statements often come later in the game. #engsschat
    In reply to @johnsonmaryj
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    A4 Use WhoIs to find out who site registered to and search them. https://t.co/qjaQRqk9df #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Honesty: I don't. Our libraries are connected to Google Scholar. If I am signed on or in person I search, click button, have article. Other prominent way to search is by accessing each journal. Want them ready for academic research teach students to search networks. #engsschat
    In reply to @Steph_Sukow, @EBSCO
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    A4: Assessing documents & sources has been happening since the beginning of the school year. So first & foremost I help them practice it as a skill, I also will point them toward sources, and allow them to mine Wikipedia for sources in the notes on articles. #engsschat
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    At the beginning of the year when I introduce Genius Hour, I give my students several sources. They need to determine in groups what they think is reliable and what is not reliable and explain why. #engsschat #edchat
  • MrsDevlinSS Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    A4: I try to model and provide valid sources to begin with. By showcasing good resources from the beginning of the year, hopefully that can influence their choices! #engsschat
  • undremplydlife Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    The title of our book was suggested to us by the Queen of England. Thank you queen mother. https://t.co/xTQUgflnB3 #twittweandnews #Nowthatwinterisover #engsschat #tytlive
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Database use is a crucial skill in and of itself. Most schools today are tapped into several good databases. #engsschat
    In reply to @historytechie
  • AndrewSharosAP Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Greetings to #formativechat and #engsschat tonight. Please join us for the very first #APTeach chat on 4/4 at 8PM CST. This chat will be the first nationwide chat to bring those inside and out of the AP community together! #TLAP #LearnLAP #LeadLAP
  • misshoffman19 Mar 26 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A4 I would talk to my librarian about different databases or books the students may use. I would stress that not everything online is credible. I would gather credible and non-credible sources and discuss with the students the difference between the two. #engsschat #SSMETHODS
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    Google Scholar is absolutely a great source. There are definitely so many ways to gather and access credible and quality sources! #engsschat
    In reply to @jgmac1106, @EBSCO
  • kwillmann Mar 26 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    A4 going backwards from a finished paper. Asking students to figure out how the author/student used resources. #engsschat
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    Then we take a look at specific website they can use for their research that are recommended. They can find their own but they need to prove why they are reliable sources. #engsschat #edchat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    I love when folks turn the debates and edits behind wikipedia into the lesson rather than the source of condemnation. #engsschat
    • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
      A4: Assessing documents & sources has been happening since the beginning of the school year. So first & foremost I help them practice it as a skill, I also will point them toward sources, and allow them to mine Wikipedia for sources in the notes on articles. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    Q4b: How do you encourage Ss to evaluate their sources? #engsschat
  • DrewMidgette Mar 26 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    Agreed. @SHEG_Stanford is great! I have found many helpful sources. #engsschat
    In reply to @CHitch94, @SHEG_Stanford, @SHEG_Stanford
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    Yes, that is something I've been trying to get my Ss to understand. The vast majority of them come into the class convinced that Wikipedia is the devil. #engsschat
    • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:40 PM EDT
      I love when folks turn the debates and edits behind wikipedia into the lesson rather than the source of condemnation. #engsschat
      • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:39 PM EDT
        A4: Assessing documents & sources has been happening since the beginning of the school year. So first & foremost I help them practice it as a skill, I also will point them toward sources, and allow them to mine Wikipedia for sources in the notes on articles. #engsschat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    When in doubt, ask the hive mind... but at least be skeptical about what they have to say. #engsschat
    In reply to @jgmac1106
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A4b: I love modeling and talking through sources w/ Ss. They often don't realize how much goes into finding quality sources. #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Practicing it as a discreet skill before and during the research process seems to be pretty effective. How much do you do before research begins? #engsschat
    In reply to @dwsteven
  • Eng_Teacher Mar 26 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A4: As Ss have uncovered unacceptable sources over the years, I have kept track of those and now use them as examples to help Ss see what to avoid. I also offer a list of suggested sources. Using quotes from the archive of primary source interviews is a requirement. #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    The shift has been very recent, but it is also making compliance with profit driven copyright easier. As long as students access the library offline they can get articles from the publisher. My research is also more contemporary so have a recency bias. #engsschat
    In reply to @Steph_Sukow, @EBSCO
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A4. I'm a believer in search curation. A good example is https://t.co/4qNWFjPSVP - a search engine for students with real people/subject experts as curators. Try it! #engsschat
  • TraceyHughes9 Mar 26 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A4. For research projects on criminal justice system in my Law, Culture and Society class, I require one book source but also point to organizations that collect articles daily like @MarshallProj - great resource #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    A4b) Encourage & expect Ss to query sources as they use them. Build ?s into sources they are assigned & expect them to do the same for sources they find for research purposes. #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    A4 https://t.co/qjaQRqk9df to search who owns site. Then research them for credibility. Use database. Corroboration & fact check #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining in tonight! Tonight is the combined #engsschat.
    In reply to @theedumacater
  • MrAllardSS Mar 26 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    A4B Work on this when working with primary sources - part of our reading strategy (SOAPS). Starts with the source of the document #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    I think it's more than that. When we were doing our IRT research a decade all search was engine driven. The rise and cultivation of a network fundamentally shifts our space for research and reading. Those with better networks and more knoweldge. #engsschat
    In reply to @dwsteven
  • emilyjhuffman Mar 26 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    A1: Currently working on argumentative essays in class. We started with a small debate to spark passion and ideas, and then they chose their own topic to focus on—choice definitely encourages inquiry. #engsschat! #sschat #engchat #edchat
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    Any reliable sources for elementary students to research on is greatly appreciated. I always like to add to my list. #engsschat #edchat
  • kwillmann Mar 26 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    A4b - a rating system - of 1 to 5 stars based on credibility and usefulness. All sources are biased. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    I cannot believe we are almost 45 minutes into this chat. I cannot wait to read the archives. Thank you for all your thoughts and resources! #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    Checklist do little to improve sourcing skills. Nothing. #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A4 @samwineburgjust talked about this at #ccss18 keynote. Search source & credibility. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    No matter how you find them, once you find credible and relevant information, what's next? Q5 is coming your way! #engsschat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    I begin the year examining types of sources, primary/secondary, then begin exploring bias, points of view, etc... Basically I give them as many contradictory pieces of information from documents they can’t help but be skeptical. “Trust, but verify.” #engsschat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    Q5: Once Ss find credible sources, what’s next? How do you help Ss synthesize their findings? #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    Yes! @samwineburg has some great research out about this. Heard him speak at #NCSS17. Powerful. Def check out @SHEG_Stanford civic online reasoning materials. https://t.co/E0vyNAx3PV #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    I stumbled into this paper at my first AERA. Literally picked a random door. Changed the way I scaffold sourcing and argumentation. https://t.co/Y0GoWkGQIK #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    Have you, or could you, gone over this method in more detail? It sounds like this offers great rigor, but I don't follow it perfectly. #engsschat
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    A5 How does source support or challenge thesis? Identify info for topic & notes. Org info & counterclaims. #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    A5) When I was teaching in a traditional classroom, I had Ss use notecards. It was easy to have them group/categorize their notes in different ways & figure out what was best way to structure their response. #engsschat
  • MrsDevlinSS Mar 26 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A5: As my sixth grade teacher said, plan your work and work your plan. We need to be certain the structure and supports are created in our assignments that help students work with all the material they found #engsschat
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    Through the Genius Hour model students are expected to present their findings to other through various types of media such as Google Slides, Docs, Seesaw Videos, etc. #engsschat #edchat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    Yes, counterclaims are so critical for Ss to understand the whole scope of an issue or topic! Great point. #engsschat
    In reply to @historytechie
  • theedumacater Mar 26 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    School databases are huge for me and I love whois to check author #engsschat
  • MissHunsberger Mar 26 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A5. I've found that giving a formula for writing/organizing thoughts helps Ss be able to go deeper with analysis and questions. I use the OREO tool to help them have the structure then work on connecting their "reasons" and "evidence" together #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A5 Ss can organize "research notecards" in topic piles in @noodletools Can be done in chart/graphic org on GDoc too. #engsschat
  • TraceyHughes9 Mar 26 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A5 Most important step towards synthesis is having deep understanding of the sources they have selected. If they have goid summaries, they start to see how sources relate #engsschat
  • misshoffman19 Mar 26 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A5 After the students find resources, I would have the students write annotated bibliographies #engsschat #SSMETHODS
  • DrewMidgette Mar 26 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A5- I have students annotate sources. The method of annotation varies depending on the source or purpose. #engsschat
  • Eng_Teacher Mar 26 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A5: My Ss color-code their info. They assign a highlighter color to each section of the research paper. When finished highlighting, they can easily see which colors are dominant and which are limited, thus reflecting their coverage of topics of discussion. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A5: Going back to an earlier idea from @scottmpetri, annotated bibliographies are powerful ways to understand many sources and synthesize information. #engsschat
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    For example, when they are assigned sources, I build questions into them, especially difficult primary sources. Can do this in GDocs, Kami, etc. As Ss get used to this, they should be able to do this questioning themselves. #engsschat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Summarizing works weirdly well for this #engsschat
    In reply to @TraceyHughes9
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Exactly. Many questionable sources also come up with credible sounding names and look legit/slick. #engsschat
    In reply to @theedumacater
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Yes! Annotating and close reading are so key to engaging with multiple types of texts and really understanding meaning. #engsschat
    In reply to @DrewMidgette
  • hggilman Mar 26 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    A5: I still like a Visual Organizer. We use buckets for DBQs where they can sort sources and see multiple connections or categories. Need something for informative writing #engsschat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    A5: I’m a sucker for the classic SOAPSTONE method. It provides an easily accessible & memorable way to think about sources. #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    It mirrors the work I have done with @wiobyrne and others at New Literacies Lab. Here is a draft of my never finished in need of updating lit review: https://t.co/Bxn54Eu3ym #engsschat
    In reply to @CHitch94, @samwineburg, @SHEG_Stanford, @wiobyrne
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    OREO tool? Got a link for that? #engsschat
    In reply to @MissHunsberger
  • HeartlandLC Mar 26 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    A5) I also liked to have them use a coding system (colors, symbols, or whatever worked for them) to match information to the question or questions that information answered. #engsschat
  • TraceyHughes9 Mar 26 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    A5 I have found model paragraphs with sythesized sources very illuminating fir Ss. Also use synthesis opener models from They Say, I Say, which also help Ss internalize structures #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Thanks for sharing all of these strategies! I am so inspired by everyone's ideas. We're almost on our last set of questions here. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Q6: How do you have Ss present their research? How do Ss share out what they’ve learned? #engsschat
  • scottmpetri Mar 26 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    All of the @NationalHistory projs need to include an annotated bib. Inspiring Work. #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Some activities: Source Battles, turn those checklist into audience participation cards tally points declare winners, annotate, annotate, anonotate,-one pass specifically for sourcing The assessment data is amazing in terms of growth. #engsschat
  • hggilman Mar 26 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    A5: also use Socratic seminars pre-writing to bring out different POVs, counterpoints, evidence #engsschat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Lies. You’ve been fed nothing but lies... that also happen to be true. Or at least might be. Why don’t you look into that. These? These are just “alternative facts” #engsschat
    In reply to @saarbris
  • SuziSCatLover Mar 26 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    I love BTS. Amo a BTS. BTS 사랑해 💖 #engsschat https://t.co/hQMTUoyZAb
    • taesnowhite Mar 26 @ 6:53 PM EDT
      Can you reply with "I love BTS." using your own language. I'll start, "Mahal ko ang BTS." @BTS_twt Always remember that, "Language is not a barrier." —Kim Namjoon #ArmyLanguagesDay
  • CHitch94 - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A6) In my online world history courses, we don't do a traditional research paper or project but for their final capstone project they can choose what format they feel works best - text/doc, slideshow, Prezi, screencast, video, etc. #engsschat
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    I guess I answered this in my last post instead. #engsschat #edchat
  • theedumacater Mar 26 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    Once student have credibility I usually try to have them research any opposition to research. This can make students have to dive deeper into the topic #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    As in directly embed a question like this into a doc: "What does this document show about Columbus' and the Europeans' beliefs about human rights?" #engsschat
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A6: Ss create I-Search with various chapters written in a narrative format to present their findings for their research questions. Such a fun way to see their growth and understanding of many types of texts. #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A6 We've done Infographics, presentations, discussions, write Congress, @SutoriApptimeline @ThingLink_EDU #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    Wow, I cannot believe there are only five minutes left... really quickly, let's share out some sources. #engsschat
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Index Cards #engsschat Index Cards. They are the
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Q7: Please share with us any resources, ideas, or suggestions that could help Ss engage in the research process! #engsschat
  • TraceyHughes9 Mar 26 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Got to go! Thanks everyone for great ideas. I will definitely be rereading the archive! #engsschat
  • MissHunsberger Mar 26 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A6 A written paper, but Ss are allowed to be creative with the POV or type of writing (journal entry, letter to a relative, editorial article) I've done comic strips before, but it was just too difficult in an online setting with no interaction required #engsschat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A6, it depends on the assignment. If we’re just jigsawing a document, I’ll have students “stand & deliver” or create slides, and even did some awesome videos earlier this year. #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A7 Create GDoc with scaffolding questions for Ss to focus on and narrow their research #engsschat
  • saarbris Mar 26 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A6: I found that a mock trial format was highly engaging for Ss, and it made interpretation and analysis of sources an integral part of the presentation, as they had to defend their conclusions rather than passively outline their findings. #engsschat
  • Steph_Sukow - Moderator Mar 26 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A7: The Media Specialists in the district I teach at are rock stars. They've gathered these resources, which has made teaching research better for my Ss. https://t.co/pVPIZFUnob #engsschat #theyrock
  • HeartlandLC Mar 26 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A6) The 10th gr. SS T and I used to have an all-10th-grade broad research question, and we hosted an end-of-project community night where the kids had to present their findings and engage in discussions with parents, community members, Ts, and Ss. #engsschat
  • MissThorson Mar 26 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Great for lower students or elementary students. #engsschat #edchat
  • dwsteven Mar 26 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A7: Go & experience it for yourself... then become the source! https://t.co/3dwrCr8KzR #engsschat
  • historytechie Mar 26 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A7 I found using @PhotosforClass and search practice with synonyms helps with research search terms #engsschat
  • Eng_Teacher Mar 26 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A6: Other than the traditional research paper, students have created a Google slide as a type of online poster displaying their findings. This was new this year as Ss chose a notable figure to explore the Shakespeare authorship question. #engsschat
  • misshoffman19 Mar 26 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A6 I think gallery walks are a great way for students to share their information. Half the class can present while the other half are walking around listening to their peers. With a small group presentation there are more opportunities for small discussions #engsschat #SSMETHODS
  • jgmac1106 Mar 26 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    I you are a Google school teach the Google Keep/Google Doc integration tool. Have kids use @KaizenaHQ to record their sourcing justifications. Challenge them back. Keep the conversation away from the writing. Focuses learning objective and gives kids a little space #engsschat
  • juliejgiese Mar 26 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    A7: let the students craft their own essential question. I am always amazed by what topics or parts of topics that really interest them. #engsschat
  • johnsonmaryj Mar 26 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    A6. It's almost always possible (and easy to forget) to incorporate the arts (visual, dance, drama, etc.) into final research project presentations. #engsschat