#espechat Archive
Tuesday March 8, 2016
8:00 PM EST
rich_wiles
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Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to the
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this evening. My name is Rich I will be moderating tonight.
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to the
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this evening. My name is Rich I will be moderating tonight.
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
Who do we have joining the chat this evening?
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST
Good evening
@rich_wiles
&
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Mr. Csajko here on time!
CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
Carrie from Decatur (Atlanta), GA.
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MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:01 PM EST
Here!
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CoachFoe
Mar 8 @ 8:02 PM EST
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Mark from Illinois
rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
We will be using the Q and A format this evening. Please add the Q# and
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too.
rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
Tonight topic is “Space in
#PhysED
”
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responsivePE
Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
@rich_wiles
Rachel, NJ.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST
Judy from Annapolis, MD here
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
Welcome Everybody. Trying to balance the family bedtime and moderating.
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DMickBeversdorf
Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
Darci from Wisconsin
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
We will talk about each subject for 7-10 minutes then move to the next topic.
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
Our goal this spring is to develop some common language between
#physed
professionals
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
@rich_wiles
I am learning this tap dance as well
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
@MrCsajko
Rough tonight.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
@rich_wiles
You Go Super Dad!
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
Are we ready for the topic tonight?
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:06 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
Hey Judy!
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
Q1. Define General Space and Personal Space?
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
@DMickBeversdorf
@CoachBatWP
Good to have you back!
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
@MrCsajko
Wait till #2 shows up and then you really have a tapdance
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
@CoachFoe
Heard you had a killer presentation recently!
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DMickBeversdorf
Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1:general space is space that we all use and personal space is my space
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MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1 personal space is in your own bubble. General space is the area surrounding your bubble
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peshoes
Mar 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: the safe area around Ss to play in
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:08 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
Will you be moderating that chat, because ill be taking notes
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: General - open space (within boundaries sometimes), Personal - space around you.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1.
@PEDL_K5
Says Personal Space is An area where one can perform an activity safely without bumping or touching another person
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:09 PM EST
@peshoes
Hey Roni!
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
@CoachFoe
@Physed_Pomeroy
You but Matt as well now that you mention it!
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
Well it looks like we have Q1 answered. Let's move to number two.
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McFadden_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
Jenifer from Tennessee
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
Q2. How do you differentiate between movement in personal and general space when instructing?
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peshoes
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
@MrCsajko
it’s good to be bad…. it’s been a while
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
@McFadden_PE
Welcome Jen!
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
@MrCsajko
@DMickBeversdorf
Great to be back.
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McFadden_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
A1: "General Space" is the space within a room or bounded area that a person can move through using any means of locomotion.
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responsivePE
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
@rich_wiles
A1 Gen space = area available for all Ss to move in. Personal space = the area that surrounds 1 person as they move.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
@MrCsajko
Not tonight, but will assist if
@rich_wiles
needs help
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peshoes
Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
@peshoes
@MrCsajko
sometimes it is good to be bad …. but this time i meant back haha
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MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2 I begin with hula hoops. Inside hoop = personal space. Outside of hoop = general space
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
@rich_wiles
HA no i meant a parenting 2 kids chat group
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exercys
Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
@rich_wiles
Bart from Iowa. I'll be in & out.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1. General Space as defined by
@PEDL_K5
Open areas between objects or people that can be moved through safely
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
@exercys
@rich_wiles
Glad to have your insight, even for a little while
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McFadden_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1: Personal Space is a defined area in which Ss can do tasks without interfering or invading another person's "bubble".
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: Move around the general space while staying in your personal space.
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Look for open areas and don't touch others.
SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
@MrCsajko
@rich_wiles
Did that and survived SO FAR theyre 26 & 27
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:13 PM EST
https://t.co/RcxANgTnXP
Sorry guys here are the questions
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McFadden_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2: visualize with hula hoops. I've even wore a hula hoop with suspenders when need be to show a defined personal space.
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exercys
Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST
@rich_wiles
A2 Personal space is movement inside arms reach General space area outside one's personal space.
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McFadden_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2: Ss are asked to clarify the learning space for each task.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2. My Ss love it when I identify the open space & refer to it as Magical Moving Space, since never the same when moving
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responsivePE
Mar 8 @ 8:16 PM EST
@rich_wiles
A2 Use the cookie dough analogy. Ss should be evenly spread out in general space. Just like chips in cookie batter!
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
Does anyone revisit these concepts mid year or is this a beginning of the year only topic???
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:18 PM EST
@MrCsajko
I revisit every lesson during a movement warmup for K/1.
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responsivePE
Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
@MrCsajko
constantly revisit!
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DMickBeversdorf
Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
I use them in many units along with other movement vocabulary like force, speed, levels, direction
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CoachFoe
Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
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I revisit the space concept constantly
MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
@MrCsajko
beginning of the year and revisited as needed. Along same lines as rules/expectations
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exercys
Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
@MrCsajko
Almost daily with some classes!! 😜
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physedreview
Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
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A2: I use small circle stickers for spacing. Gives kids visual.
SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST
@exercys
@rich_wiles
Do you ever have Ss moving around with arms extended, how do you get them to drop the crutch of the arms
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choptank85
Mar 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
personal space is your own space and general space is everybody's space
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:20 PM EST
Another question... are there any songs that lyrically coincide with the concept of spacial awareness?
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
@CoachFoe
I agree, this is some thing we use every day and through all grade levels
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
I wish I could sing, I would change Meghan Trainer's song into "You know I'm all about that space, that space, no trouble!"
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
I believe
@rich_wiles
had to step out for a few. In the meantime I will hop in and help moderate
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
Q3 in 20 sec
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CoachFoe
Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
@exercys
@rich_wiles
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shoot I think I do that myself to this day
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
Q3. Do your teaching cues for space change from grade level to grade level when teaching?
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physedreview
Mar 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
@MrCsajko
Someone should make a CD.
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3: K/1 - while moving in general space you may have to stop, change speed, or change directions to stay in personal space.
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MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
Perhaps a project for
@MrHorne101
haha love the scholarly raps
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https://t.co/BX5vLjBrAK
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST
I wish I could sing, I would change Meghan Trainer's song into "You know I'm all about that space, that space, no trouble!"
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
@physedreview
Maybe Weird Al and I can collab on some
#physed
projects
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choptank85
Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
K and 1 students use helicopter arms for personal space. 2-5 know what personal space is and will automatically swing arms
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
A3. As my Ss get older I start to explain how to "Close Space" defending
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lassybubs
Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST
A2: for elementary, I remind Ss throughout lesson when needed, "reach your arms out, if touching your neighbor, too close"
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responsivePE
Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
@MrCsajko
A3 "Find your own space" is consistent. What changes is the scaffolding. Ex: small groups at a time vs. whole class.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST
Who has some teaching cues?
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https://t.co/dtYdEYD0jS
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST
Q3. Do your teaching cues for space change from grade level to grade level when teaching?
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MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
agreed. As Ss get older it becomes more about creating/reducing space in activities
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CoachFoe
Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
younger Ss long leash, short leash: older Ss closing speed/space
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responsivePE
Mar 8 @ 8:27 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
@MrCsajko
"You know you have it when you can move through space without touching anyone."
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
I'll be posting Question 4 in about 5 minutes
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST
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anybody have their Ss "Look with eyes before Move with Feet"
responsivePE
Mar 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
@MrCsajko
"Pick an open spot on the floor and move toward it."
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:29 PM EST
"EYES WATCH"
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#commonlanguage
SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
@responsivePE
@MrCsajko
Great when they see the collision before it happens
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choptank85
Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
hands in front "bumpers up"
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
I am constantly saying look for open spaces away from others.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:31 PM EST
@CoachBatWP
I have said that for over 30 mYears and the Ss still need reminders
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
Q4. How do you combine spatial concepts with locomotor and nonlocomotor movements in gymnastics, dance, and games environments?
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
I use an airplane analogy. Wings out. If wings touch another plane, the plane is broken and cannot fly until it is repaired
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
Some love to follow each other around all of the time.
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
A4:Games are huge for not only traveling to open space, but also creating space by invading personal space to then retract quickly
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
Here's Question 4
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https://t.co/s7lWKPdCke
SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST
Q4. How do you combine spatial concepts with locomotor and nonlocomotor movements in gymnastics, dance, and games environments?
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McFadden_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
@MrCsajko
yes!
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MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
@CoachBatWP
@SchmidJudy
there is always a pair that are attached at the hip it seems
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
A4: For dance moves like stepping fwd, bkwd, or sideways I tell the kids keep the step in their space.
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DMickBeversdorf
Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
A4: I say that locomotor mov't needs general and personal space, but non-locomotor is done in personal space
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MrHorne101
Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
@MrPicha_PE
@MrCsajko
I like that...not sure if I could pull that one off, would def rap it and not sing it. Lol
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
A4: Dance...personal space....well my wife's feet can probably answer this one
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#whoops
SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
@MrPicha_PE
@CoachBatWP
I would solve this with a quick game of Partner tag - only Partners can tag each other
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McFadden_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
@MrCsajko
I also use the airplane analogy!
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
Okay bedtime disaster under control and kids in bed now.Sorry folks. Thanks Judy and Ryan.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
@CoachBatWP
This works until someone take too big of step, Remind Ss Space can move
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
Question #5 coming soon.
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pe4everykid
Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST
A4
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I use beanie babies to do animal walks w/ LMMs, lvls, pathways
SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:40 PM EST
@rich_wiles
3-4 more minutes on Q 4
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team
SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST
@pe4everykid
AWesome, I have used Critters to show animals that move between Levels
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:42 PM EST
A4 - During Jump Rope I talk about how everyone needs a bigger personal space
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MrChanKW
Mar 8 @ 8:43 PM EST
@CoachBatWP
I agree, jump rope is the best unit to demo personal space
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:44 PM EST
Does the concept of "Personal Space" change throughout the day for our S's though. This is something I definitely talk about
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
Q5. Why is space important when dribbling in general space with changes in direction and speed?
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:45 PM EST
@MrCsajko
At the beginning we practice changing the size of our personal space depending on what we are doing.
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
Way to go
@MrCsajko
Everybody tollerates different amounts of personal space and Ss need the assistance to figure it out -
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pe4everykid
Mar 8 @ 8:46 PM EST
A4
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@physedreview
has a few videos I've used too Pathways
https://t.co/sNy4rqUSEi
& LMMs
https://t.co/S6DnYr3N3c
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
@CoachBatWP
To clarify, while most students "line-up" for their teacher, personal space is definitely redefined
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
Q5. Why is space important when Dribbling in general space with changes in direction and speed?
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responsivePE
Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST
@rich_wiles
A5 Faster/COD ='s less reaction time - just like driving a car. Ss have to be able to adjust for both factors.
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McFadden_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
@MrCsajko
@CoachBatWP
this reminds me of being in 6th grade and our math teacher saying "6 inches" to define personal space
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
A5. Space will change with the amount of Speed used - Fast =more space, Slow = less space
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
Question 5 is a
@SHAPE_America
outcome for students in upper grade. Let's brain storm for lesson.
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MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:48 PM EST
A5 At beginning stages many Ss stare at the ball. Important to learn that "eyes up" concept early
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:49 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
How could this space be applied to offensive and defensive?
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
@rich_wiles
@SHAPE_America
Would not want Ss closing Space on Defense at full speed, the opponet would adjust & pass them easily
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
yes, collisions happen when speed increases.
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Great point to make with the Ss as they explore speeds too.
McFadden_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST
A5: @ beginning stages, I clearly mark space for Ss to keep all safe due to confidence in keeping eyes up and seeing entire area.
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
@responsivePE
great job. How would you teach dribbling in small side activties?
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MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
A5 cont. the whole idea of maintaining control of the ball and body are huge. Need to react to environment (find/create space)
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SchmidJudy
Mar 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
@rich_wiles
Offensively Ss will adjust speed & control to Space available-Open BB court = Fast Break
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pe4everykid
Mar 8 @ 8:51 PM EST
A5
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start dribbling in own stationary space, then moving in same direction as others, then diff directions. Maintain ur space.
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
"Tap, Tap, Trap."
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
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https://t.co/k42YovtdOV
lassybubs
Mar 8 @ 8:52 PM EST
@rich_wiles
A5: space important when dribbling so that Ss not all tripping over each other; reaction time+enough space= success#espechat
rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
Last questions coming soon
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:53 PM EST
Q6. What type of space assessments do you use with your students?
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responsivePE
Mar 8 @ 8:54 PM EST
@rich_wiles
1 way to scaffold is to put limits on defenders."D" can stand in hula hoops or slide laterally along lines on floor.
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
@oneill_444
I missed half of tonight too. Glad we had some moderators here this evening.
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MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
A6: Peer Assessment when teaching Sport ed model, "referee's" are looking for this on their scoresheets
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pe4everykid
Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
A5
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keeping ball under control is key, whatever the speed Eyes up 2 change dir or speed as needed. Ss work @ own speed successfully
MrChanKW
Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST
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A5. control and finding open space for safety and movement. "More space=faster, more Ss=slower" Ss like speed!
MrCsajko
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:56 PM EST
A6: (part 2) ....teach and assess the concept of "mirror" defense
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MrPicha_PE
Mar 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
Alright. Time to leave Twitter before east coasters ruin
#AgentsofSHIELD
for me. Tomorrow I'll be
#CAHPERD16
bound!
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lassybubs
Mar 8 @ 8:57 PM EST
A5:offensively,guarding personal space (arm up, dribble away from defense) important to keep possession of ball from defense
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:58 PM EST
A6. Could be as simple as Hopple Assessment from Book to Self Assessment with Arm Out in Personal Space
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
Thank you for joining us this week. Please join us next week for for the topic “Pathways and Shapes in
#PhysEd
”
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pe4everykid
Mar 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
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A6 whole group video clip review for closure discussion at end of class or 2 demo good/bad spacing in activity & other feedback.
C_Fox216
Mar 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
Use 4-5 stations for different spacial concepts
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
Keep up with the chat information and sharable documents on the
https://t.co/DFb341Sc80
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 8:59 PM EST
A6: A lot of formative assessment using teacher observation at the Kindergarten level.
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CoachBatWP
Mar 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
@pe4everykid
Hmm...great idea. Now that I have a new TV cart!
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Mar 8 @ 9:00 PM EST
Thank everybody for jumping in and moderating this evening. We work hard for no hiccups but life happens and balancing is tough.
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