#mschat Archive

A chat that offers middle school teachers a chance to have a collaborative discussion about a different topic each week. Our topics change from week to week, ranging from Common Core State Standards to Character Education. During the chat, participants exchanges ideas and resources. The chat group ranges in size each week from 10 to 50+ participants. Discussion can be general talking about instructional style or process to specific. Recently members of the chat group help each other create lessons.

Thursday May 3, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    It is 8:00 on my watch and it is time to get #mschat started. Please introduce yourself and one thing you love about this time of year.
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    My name is Jeremy Hyler and I teach 8th grade English/Science in central Michigan. I love being able to go outside and not wear a coat. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    We will use the Q1 and A1 format tonight as we discuss homework and our defiant Ss. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Please introduce yourself when you have the chance. #mschat
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  • Beyond_the_Desk May 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    I’m here! Katie, 6th grade, IN. At my son’s dress rehearsal for Peter Pan jr ❤️ #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    We are still waiting for some folks to join in, but we will kick off question #1 in a moment. #mschat
  • MrsAsztalos May 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Hello #mschat and #MasteryChat Melissa, 7th Grade Science from Upstate NY checking in!
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Welcome Katie. Thank you for taking the time to chime in on this busy spring evening. #mschat
    In reply to @Beyond_the_Desk
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Welcome Melissa! Thank you for joining us from New York. Hope the weather is good there. #mschat
    In reply to @MrsAsztalos
  • Dale_Chu May 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @Jeremybballer moderating a chat on homework and unmotivated students. Follow along at #mschat!
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Thank you Dale! Hope you can join us. #mschat
    In reply to @Dale_Chu
  • MrsAsztalos May 3 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Thank you. It snowed on Monday, and it was 80 today! Mother Nature can't make up her mind! #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Sounds like here in Michigan! Lol! #mschat
    In reply to @MrsAsztalos
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    First question coming up for our small group in just a moment. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Q1: What is your position when it comes to homework for your Ss? #mschat
  • tmaynard5 May 3 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Hello #mschat Tara, 8th math, Zeeland, MI @Creekside_MS
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Welcome Tara. Thanks for Joining us on this busy evening. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: I feel homework should be an extention of the classroom and not just giving something to Ss to keep them busy. #mschat
  • tmaynard5 May 3 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: I changed to #flipclass back in 12-13 and for me, Ss watch videos (8 min. or less) 2-3 times a week. Other nights are just finishing if they don't get done in-class or reviews. Really trying for nothing over the weekend this year. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    I flip my grammar instruction using @GrammarFlip. It is helpful. Homework for me is also just assignments not done in class. #mschat
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @GrammarFlip
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    In case you missed our 1st question. #mschat
  • tmaynard5 May 3 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    I've found that hmwk that is really thought out, for a certain reason, can help Ss get so much more out of in-class time. If they come in with just a little knowledge, we can dig deeper! #mschat
  • magistrareardon May 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Hi #mschat! Kate, Dir of Academic Tech in MA joining a bit late
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Yes! There is something spectacular about great in class conversations where Ss dig deep and think hard about things. #mschat
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Welcome Kathleen. Thank you for joining us this evening. Glad you are here. #mschat
    In reply to @magistrareardon
  • MrsAsztalos May 3 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A1 This year I have changed my approach and do not do daily HW . Ss have to complete Science Encyclopedia Pages for key terms in each unit. They are due the end of the unit. They can budget their own time, with suggestions from me. #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk May 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A1: Most of the time, I have mine practically the equivalent of a full work day. Do I really need them to do more at home? #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    How do your Ss do with budgeting their time. Do you feel like they have that skill or need instructions? #mschat
    In reply to @MrsAsztalos
  • Beyond_the_Desk May 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A1: I do assign practice, but often have class time to get just about finished. #mschat
  • magistrareardon May 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    I like optional homework to help students develop self-assessment skills. Help them learn to identify whether they need more practice and provide a way for them to get that practice #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • skeeTX May 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A1: HW is not necessary but can be of value if given for a purpose. Busy work is not a valid reason. School days are long enough. Let Ss and Ts rest and prep for tomorrow #mschat
  • MrsAsztalos May 3 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    It's a mixed bag. I don't do checks, so if they save them all for the end, it is their choice. I suggest 2 per week, and most kids stick to this. #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Yes, and if Ss waist class time then that is their own doing in terms of having homework. #mschat
    In reply to @Beyond_the_Desk
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Do you have Ss that actually feel like they need the practice and do it? #mschat
    In reply to @magistrareardon
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Q2 coming up in just a moment. #mschat
  • matharguello May 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Sorry I’m late but I’m here for the #mschat!! I’m a pre-service teacher and I will be student teaching with @tmaynard5 in the fall. @Jeremybballer #edchat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    No worries! Welcome and we are glad you are here. #mschat
    In reply to @matharguello, @tmaynard5
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Q2: Even with Ss who do not have learning disabilities, how do we address homework completion with defiant Ss? #mschat
  • magistrareardon May 3 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    At the start of the year, my go-getters will do it and that's about it. I have conversations with students who need practice on certain concepts and encourage them to do it, helping them carve out time if they need it. #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • matharguello May 3 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A1: I feel like homework should be given as a further extension of class activities. I really like giving kids 2-3 questions in which they must really think deeply about the lesson. I also like preview activities, where kids can think about what they will learn next. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Less is more in many cases! I like it! #mschat
    In reply to @matharguello
  • skeeTX May 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2: not doing hw out of defiance is usually a manifestation of a larger & deeper issue. Need to see if we can reach our Ss and understand what’s really going on #mschat
  • MrsAsztalos May 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3 I will be honest, I don't do much of this. With 90 Ss, I mostly focus on working with the Ss and their proress. Parents all have access to the Parent Portal. #mschat
  • MsHubbard124 May 3 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Hi, #mschat! Jordan from MI popping in late. 8th grade language arts.:)
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    What happens if we never reach those Ss? #mschat
    In reply to @skeeTX
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Jordan to join the conversation. #mschat
    In reply to @MsHubbard124
  • Beyond_the_Desk May 3 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A2: Went gamified. Quiz over skills practiced on hw instead of stressing over each hw assignment. Must score 80% or higher on hw quiz to earn rewards toward next level. Motivates to do hw. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Hmmm. I would like to know more about this approach. Can you give some more information? #mschat
    In reply to @Beyond_the_Desk
  • skeeTX May 3 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Then we’ve failed them. Primary goal has to be making sure our Ss are healthy emotionally, psychologically and physically. Content and HW are distant in comparison. #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Even if we have explored all avenues and exhausted ourselves to reach them? I'm just playing devils advocate here. Lol! #mschat
    In reply to @skeeTX
  • MsHubbard124 May 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A2: HW in my class is usually reading - either a choice novel or one we are studying together in class. Because Ss know that the activities they'll be doing the next day require them to stay on top of reading, this seems to be somewhat of a motivator. #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk May 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Absolutely. We’ve tried it 2 ways: mission cards and digital quests. Actual physical mission cards seemed to be more tangible and more motivating. Completed cards are turned in for rewards. I’ll see if I have pics . #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • tmaynard5 May 3 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A2: If videos aren’t done, I have Ss go to side of classroom & watch them. I don’t get mad or upset and then I have more time to help than after they are done since everyone else has already started our #flipclass in-class work. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Awesome! Thank you for sharing! #mschat
    In reply to @Beyond_the_Desk
  • skeeTX May 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Still looking for a student who can’t wait to go home after a long school day and want to do hours of more work. What’s the point? Families need time together and kids should pursue other interests and passions as should we! #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Agreed, seeing how we spend more time with them than their families during the school year. #mschat
    In reply to @skeeTX
  • skeeTX May 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Ideally, we keep trying. Zeroes on HW assignments certainly won’t help. #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • blocht574 - Moderator May 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A2: So I don't give homework but stuggle with work completion in class at time #mschat It means I pull up a seat and work with them to get it done... Might mean I get a lunch date too
  • MsHubbard124 May 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A2: I hope that by this point in the year (at least!), Ss know that the HW I assign is meaningful & relevant. It also helps that I do the assignments, too! #mschat
  • MrsAsztalos May 3 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A2 In MS there are bigger issues at play often. We can only do so much in 45 minutes. A Ss should still be able to find limited success with instruction alone in class. HW should enhance instruction, not replace it. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Agreed, we have tried getting away from this the last 3-4 years. It is helping and has helped for sure. #mschat
    In reply to @skeeTX
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    That is great Jordan! #mschat
    In reply to @MsHubbard124
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    This is a good strategy. Definitely something to think about. #mschat Do you give them consequences for not doing it?
    In reply to @blocht574
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Q3: We often here that building relationships is vital to our Ss being successful. What else can we do to motivate defiant Ss to complete work besides building great relationships with kids? #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator May 3 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Yeah, to do IT! #mschat SO get me to sit by them and help, get to come to lunch and work on it..... If not done, call home to explain to mom and dad that they need their help to get work done!
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • MsHubbard124 May 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A3: I alluded to this in A2, but doing the work alongside Ss is a huge motivator. They know that any time I assign HW, I'm assigning it to myself, too! #mschat
  • skeeTX May 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    How much of HW is about compliance and whether or not Ss complete tasks? What’s the learning about then, compliance? #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Agreed! Then, there is no value in the work, right? #mschat
    In reply to @skeeTX
  • blocht574 - Moderator May 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A3: Persistence: Most students believe you will give up on them, give them a failing mark and move on.... Remind them work needs to be done, Insist it gets done #mschat
  • MsHubbard124 May 3 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A3: I don't penalize for late work, but Ss know that depending on the HW assignment for that night, they could be missing out on critical information (or activities!) the next day. #mschat
  • skeeTX May 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A3: let the Ss devise a plan instead of the one prepared by the T. See if you can reach an agreement and try it out. Might allow S to take ownership and feel like they’ve been heard #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    It is amazing how this works with middle school Ss. I think some of them get tired of me saying, well okay, just get it done. Lol! #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574
  • tmaynard5 May 3 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A3: Sounds crazy, but when they actually do work, find a way to let them shine with their peers. Let them explain. Often, they see problems diff. I like to point out their diff. view and really get excited about it. #mschat
  • skeeTX May 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Absolutely! Also, why create tension over something insignificant? #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Yes, I think giving Ss more voice can definitely help. #mschat
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • MsHubbard124 May 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Me, too! I think it's important that Ss see that we won't give up on them - even if that dedication means hounding HW assignments.:) #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer, @blocht574
  • blocht574 - Moderator May 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Yeah they hate it when it is a lab day and I pull them aside and tell them they aren't allowed to do the lab until their work is done! #mschat ... What took days is done in seconds
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • Beyond_the_Desk May 3 @ 8:38 PM EDT
  • tmaynard5 May 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    I don’t penalize for late work within the current unit either. All working towards final summ. assessment. #mschat
    In reply to @MsHubbard124
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Love it! Thanks for sharing! #mschat
    In reply to @Beyond_the_Desk
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    This is something I would definitely like to take back and share with my colleagues #mschat
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @MsHubbard124
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Q4 is on the way. We are cooking. Thanks everyone for a very lively chat so far. #mschat
  • skeeTX May 3 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    The more we know a/b our Ss and their interests, the better we can tweak assignments to be more relevant to them. Get on their level if they’re not on yours #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Q4: When parents/guardians don't value education, how do we help our Ss and their parents see the importance of the work they are doing in and out of class? #mschat
  • tmaynard5 May 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    At the start of the year, I make sure the in-class activities are super fun & engaging (not that they are horrible the rest of the yr ;)) Ss need to watch #flipclass video before they can be helpful to teammates. #mschat They don’t want to miss out! Helps most!
    In reply to @blocht574, @Jeremybballer
  • blocht574 - Moderator May 3 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    YES, need to make the work meaningful so students desire to have it done #mschat
    • tmaynard5 May 3 @ 8:41 PM EDT
      At the start of the year, I make sure the in-class activities are super fun & engaging (not that they are horrible the rest of the yr ;)) Ss need to watch #flipclass video before they can be helpful to teammates. #mschat They don’t want to miss out! Helps most!
      In reply to @blocht574, @Jeremybballer
  • jbhanlon May 3 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A4: we showcase their work@and model the excitement, and encouragement it deserves. I leave voicemails and send emails letting Ps know their students work will be featured on our next email blast or Instagram and that they should brag:) #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Great ideas Jacqueline. Thank you for sharing these wonderful things. #mschat
    In reply to @jbhanlon
  • MsHubbard124 May 3 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A4: I think this stems from helping our Ss see the connections & applications of what they're learning to the real world. Once Ss see that what they're learning has impacts far beyond school walls, they're hooked. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Yes, making those real world connections are very critical. #mschat
    In reply to @MsHubbard124
  • tmaynard5 May 3 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A4: We try and talk about goals and dreams. Try to show them they what they are capable of is so much more than what they look like on paper. (Grades, attendance, behavior, etc reports.) #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    I do goals with my Ss every marking period and I also have them right about the same prompt throughout the year: "What is your future story?" #mschat
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • Aakash_Tyagi12 May 3 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    One of most important and effective way is to have conversation with them about this by making them understand the value. One of the great article i read about this is https://t.co/rWHET9bqfZ #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer, @blocht574
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Thanks for sharing this article. #mschat
    In reply to @Aakash_Tyagi12, @blocht574
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    We should have time to squeeze in one more question before the chat concludes. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Q5 coming up in 2 minutes. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Q5: What is a success story that you can share with us about how you reached a student who you never thought you would reach? #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk May 3 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A4: Not exactly what’s being asked, but we need to remember to respect parents too. Many are stretched thin & get so little family time w/ many demands. May lack resources, time, or energy to provide much academic support. Most are doing their best. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    No, I think this needed to be said and you bring up very valuable concerns. #mschat
    In reply to @Beyond_the_Desk
  • EduGladiators May 3 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    SATURDAY...NEW month! NEW #EduGladiators series - 🍎Teaching & Learning w/ @teresagross625 lead 💻 Student Blogging convo! #gtchat #UrbanEdChat #mschat #kyedchat #MasteryChat #mdeschat #memspachat #G2Great #octmchat #SlpSpedChat #LaEdChat #LATICchat #globalEdChat #LostatNPS
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Thank you for all that participated on our chat tonight. It is a very busy and stressful time of year and I appreciate my PLN to the full extent. Enjoy your weekend everyone. #mschat
  • MsHubbard124 May 3 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A5: I have Ss take surveys about my teaching, the content, our classroom, etc. about 3-4 times/year. On one of these, a particularly shut-off S told me they’d love to have more free writing time. The next week, I carved out time for my classes. The ice broke from there. #mschat
  • KRenaeP May 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    We will be back next week to talk about the power, possibility, and effectiveness of culturally relevant teaching. Please join @richbacolor and me on May 10 8pm CST/9pm EST for the second of a three-part Twitter chat series. #NoMoreCIT #NGSSchat #elemchat #mschat #PLN
  • Jeremybballer May 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    That is awesome! I love it. #mschat
    In reply to @MsHubbard124
  • MrsAsztalos May 3 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Thanks for another great chat tonight. I LOVE my #mschat and #masterychat combo! Have a great Friday everyone and a magical weekend of fun and adventure!