#sblchat Archive
Wednesday September 21, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:00 PM EDT
#sblchat
starts now!!! Tonight we are answering the question - To grade or not to grade? Please start intros...
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Rik in MA, Facilitator of Learning for HS Math, welcoming you to our
#sblchat
Crew tonight.
@garnet_hillman
and I expect to stir things up!
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:00 PM EDT
#sblchat
is off and running! We're Standards-Based Learning & Grading for the benefit of our Learners!
@garnet_hillman
GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Been a long time since I've been able to join
#sblchat
. Excited to be back tonight.
kirk_humphreys
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Kirk here from Deerfield. Teacher of 6-8th grade math in a double accelerated flipped class.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Kindly share your appreciation for all
@garnet_hillman
does for her Learners, her district and our
#sblchat
Crew each week!
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hi Garnet and Rik. Barb from Katy back for my SBL hour of power!
@BarbMiller12
, IC in Katy ISD
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@GradesHarding
So glad you are back Jeff!
#sblchat
MrsReadout
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Joni Readout, 7-12th grade Instructional Coach in Leon, Iowa
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
Hello there friend!
#sblchat
arbuckle73
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Lance in NWArkansas, Principal
@RogersNTHS
Ready to
#sblchat
!!
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
Kirk, we're pleased you are here.
#sblchat
seangrealis
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Sean, teacher of AP Calculus, AP Physics and Engineering at a Catholic all boys HS in NJ
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@BarbMiller12
Hi Barb, thanks for joining us tonight!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@GradesHarding
Jeff, so great to see you back with your
#sblchat
Crew!
GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Jeff in Northern Illinos. HS Math teacher and SGB user for the past five years.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello there
#sblchat
... Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy to be here!
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello there
#sblchat
... Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy to be here!
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Aric here from MI. Still on a high from
#sblmi
last weekend. Recap is at
https://t.co/iu2Va1tMYv
Ready to learn and grow with
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Ken O’Connor back home in Toronto from Montana. Pleased to be on
#sblchat
tonight.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@MrsReadout
Hi Joni - great to have another instructional coach in the chat tonight!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@MrsReadout
Welcome Joni!
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Natalee, HS Humanities, in Maine. Eager for another inspiring
#sblchat
!
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Taylor preservice high school math from NC!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@arbuckle73
Lance, we are ready for you!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@arbuckle73
Good evening Lance!
#sblchat
drgbenro
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@DrGbenro
joining in from Tacoma, WA. Glad to be here!
#sblchat
hilldw61
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Danny Hill from Lebanon, TN.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@seangrealis
Hi Sean!
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
All fired up for a positive
#sblchat
tonight. Megan, HS math from west suburbs of Chicago.
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Adam, English teacher from Batavia High School in Batavia, Illinois. Love tonight's topic.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@seangrealis
Sean, it's a pleasure to welcome you to
#sblchat
tonight!
mrstokes24
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Scott from Macomb Mi, science, modeling instruction
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hey
#sblchat
Mandi from MO, HS Math
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Good evening
#sblchat
, Ken, 7th grade science, Mt Vernon KY!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Good evening Ken, thanks for joining us. Hope you had good travels!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hmmm... SGB
#sblchat
https://t.co/tjzmcryOl6
GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Jeff in Northern Illinos. HS Math teacher and SGB user for the past five years.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
YES!! Katie is here!
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A highlight of the week spending an hour w
@garnet_hillman
@RoweRikW
&
#sblchat
crew. Brian, HS comm arts in WI
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
Hello there friend!
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Jason from IL looking forward to a good chat
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@kenoc7
So pleased our Ken is here!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Like this tweet if you're new to
#sblchat
so we can welcome you to our dedicated Crew. Tonight's Topic is Why We Grade.
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Let's inspire each other!
#sblchat
https://t.co/yzSR9qm7oH
RESP3CTtheGAME
Sep 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A highlight of the week spending an hour w
@garnet_hillman
@RoweRikW
&
#sblchat
crew. Brian, HS comm arts in WI
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@Aricfoster2
Good evening Aric!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@tcesarski
Taylor, greetings and welcome!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@tcesarski
Hi Taylor!
#sblchat
JJohnsonCCHS
Sep 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Josh Johnson, Charles City, IA finding some time for
#sblchat
amidst sever weather warnings!
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@aollenburg
Andy, it's great to be here with YOU!
#sblchat
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Bill, English teacher from MI. I'm excited to participate in tonight's
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@drgbenro
Hannah, welcome!
#sblchat
massignmenthelp
Sep 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
9 Tips for starting graduate school
https://t.co/Dxw4Xbf1DA
#ptchat
#sblchat
#scitlap
#shelfietalk
#udlchat
#hybrEdtech
#BOOSTchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@hilldw61
Danny, honored to share
#sblchat
with you, Friend!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@RESP3CTtheGAME
@RoweRikW
It is always a pleasure to chat with you Brian!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
ON FIRE for
#sblchat
tonight!
https://t.co/iAgoGuXkzk
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
All fired up for a positive
#sblchat
tonight. Megan, HS math from west suburbs of Chicago.
GNiklasch
Sep 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Good evening
#sblchat
Gary HS Phys. ED. Teacher from West Michigan.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@j_ozbolt
Hi Jason! We need to get together soon...
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
#sblchat
I'm going to try to keep up, but I'm also still working on lesson prep for tomorrow!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@JJohnsonCCHS
Welcome Josh!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@bspruytte
Glad to have you along Bill!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@CoachLesterBHS
Coach, glad to spend
#sblchat
with you!
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Shout out to the IC and English teachers. Your my peeps!
#sblchat
eposthuma
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Erica - chemistry teacher from Indiana
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@hilldw61
Thanks so much for joining us Danny!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@mrstokes24
Oh Scott, you made it!
#Humor
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@GNiklasch
Good evening Gary!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Mandi, welcome Friend!
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@massignmenthelp
Stop posting your irrelevant posts on
#sblchat
. I don’t understand why you make such a nuisance of yourself every week.
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Party can start
@eposthuma
is here!!! Whoo hoo!!
#sblchat
https://t.co/qjs3DaxAgd
eposthuma
Sep 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Erica - chemistry teacher from Indiana
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 How do you decide when to assign a grade/score to something?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
Ken, pleased to learn with you!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@j_ozbolt
Hi Jason!
#sblchat
EconTeach
Sep 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hello- Sandra Chico - NW suburbs of Chicago. How's it going?
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
Hi Ken! So glad you are joining us this evening.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@JJohnsonCCHS
Hi J-Squared from R--Squared!
#BeSafe
#sblchat
GNiklasch
Sep 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Good evening! Looking forward to a great night on
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: I only assign a score 1) when the student says they're ready to assess and 2) when it is summative piece of work.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 A grade can be assigned once Ss have had ample opportunity to build mastery with a standard.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@EconTeach
Hi Sandra!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 - We choose to assign a grade once our Learners are approaching Proficiency due to enough practice being completed.
#sblchat
MrStefferCVHS
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
-Hi, I'm Randy, science teacher from Sterling Heights, MI.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Here We Grow...
#sblchat
https://t.co/zEG2lvkTse
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 How do you decide when to assign a grade/score to something?
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@MrStefferCVHS
Welcome Randy!
#sblchat
Mr_D_Reeves
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Day 12: Clear standards and learning targets lead the way each day in
#ReevesGEO
#sblchat
#teach180
#smscompass
https://t.co/6Beun5Dqo7
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@GNiklasch
Welcome Gary!
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: formative = only words until learner is proficient at standards on that task. "When it gets a number, learning stops"
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
This is what we're talking about...
#sblchat
https://t.co/grKLZCYuJe
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 A grade can be assigned once Ss have had ample opportunity to build mastery with a standard.
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yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
This type of chat is all new to me! Yvette from New Brunswick, Canada. Middle school math.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Scores only get assigned when S & I agree that we are proud of their work. Until then, there isn't a score but lots of feedback!
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
I only assign a score when Ss have had ample opportunity to practice. Even then there is opportunity to improve thru cont practice
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@BarbMiller12
Welcome Barb!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 - We choose to assign or record a Proficiency Level once enough feedback has been given, processed and responded to.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: A grade is assigned on a summative assessment. This should be after much practice and successful formatives.
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Everything gets descriptive feedback. Trying to avoid the word "grade" We call it the G word We don't say the G word.
#sblchat
MrsReadout
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: We assign a score to summ assess. We review students' scores and if majority fo students are 3-4 then we report, if not reteach
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: I only mark summatives w/ a score. All formatives(work, practice, quizzes) get feedback. Tests get a score- & 1 per standard.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@EconTeach
Sandra, we'll pleased for you to join
#sblchat
tonight!
mrstokes24
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 only after there has been time to practice, and learning has occurred
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@yseeleyjones
Welcome Yvette!
#sblchat
GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 I only assign a score/grade to something when it is a final assessment and students have shown they are ready to assess
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Only when a judgment of quality of achievement is made to use in the determining report card grades.
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 when the product aligns to the learning objectives and S has convinced me that it is their best work
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: summative = has to get numbers in SBL at my school to indicate proficiency and calculate final grade for higher ed purposes.
#sblchat
drgbenro
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Here, here...
#sblchat
https://t.co/lBVxIz14X7
kirk_humphreys
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: I only assign a score 1) when the student says they're ready to assess and 2) when it is summative piece of work.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@MrStefferCVHS
Randy, we're glad you are on the
#sblchat
train tonight!
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: I think grades can only come after Ss have gotten real feedback and opportunities to learn from that feedback
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 - We wait until the marking period is closed to record learning that has not YET happened. Please hold off on zeroes!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1 How do you decide when to assign a grade/score to something?
#sblchat
arbuckle73
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: Assign a grade when measuring against the standard
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
BAM!!
#sblchat
https://t.co/haUIUMpAac
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: formative = only words until learner is proficient at standards on that task. "When it gets a number, learning stops"
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
This!
#sblchat
https://t.co/qB6DhyKfqK
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: I think grades can only come after Ss have gotten real feedback and opportunities to learn from that feedback
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@arbuckle73
are your formative assessments not standards-based?
#sblchat
KatieHuang2
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Katie Huang fourth grade Saline, MI
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@yseeleyjones
Yvette, how might we support you in
#sblchat
tonight?
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1: when you've moved beyond initial learning and there has been some practice. When they're ready to start demonstrating learning
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Arthur Chiaravalli, ELA 12 and
#APLit
teacher from Haslett, Michigan, arriving late for
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
do Ss final grades ever come as a surprise to them at the end of the year?
#sblchat
arbuckle73
Sep 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@tcesarski
Good question…It all ties back to the standards but we also have school wide learning outcomes (SWLOs)
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
Hi Arthur!
#sblchat
1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
participating in tonight's
#sblchat
w/ awesome people from across the globe! Let's go!
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@yseeleyjones
Here to help if you need me
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
When the S shows proficient or exemplary on the formative assessments. Then it transforms into a gradebook grade (bah).
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
I love the word feedback instead of grade. If it's formative it's to see where we are and to improve.
#sblchat
drgbenro
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
#sblchat
is just getting started. Join us to discuss Standards-Based Learning!
#waedchat
#wateachlead
#tpepchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I even try to avoid the word grade (v) when I talk to other Ts and Ps. I will tell them the work I have to take home is marking.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@MrsReadout
Thanks! Parents and students really identify with it. Makes everything work a little better.
#sblchat
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Working on building end of unit summatives that get scored/rescored after Ss practice and receive good, descriptive feedback
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1 again. Ss help me determine a "grade" at end of semester once they've learned all they can in our time together based on growth
#sblchat
scotthazeu
Sep 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: When a grade or score might actually help a student see a way forward.
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@KatieHuang2
I've heard of Saline! I had Ss move from MA to Saline. That was about 7-8 years ago.
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
He ain't lying! ;-)
#sblchat
https://t.co/byuxcHPHAM
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Yes, yes, yes. I’ve been trying to get this difference become part of our usage of terminology for 20 years!!!!…
https://t.co/bWrSRhqjuf
EconTeach
Sep 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Please give me some feedback.
#sblchat
trying to encourage collaboration!
https://t.co/IGczGH5qMD
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@CoachLesterBHS
very curious at how this works!! is it based on assessments throughout the year?
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@tcesarski
No, they have a rubric that was explained that converts. I provide this to lower anxiety since I am an SBL island.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
We don't 'grade' papers any more. We provide feedback.
#sblchat
https://t.co/b1y1xlWZaV
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
I am with you on removing the word grade. It only happens twice a year. Otherwise, I 'mark' papers and give feedbac…
https://t.co/3WH7LBc6kI
KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Joining late, first chat of the school year. Kelly, bio/CTE from NC
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
Absolutely! Words matter. The language we use communicates what we value
#sblchat
https://t.co/bbrDFsEzeB
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I even try to avoid the word grade (v) when I talk to other Ts and Ps. I will tell them the work I have to take home is marking.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@KatieHuang2
Katie, welcome!
#sblchat
drgbenro
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Hard to shift a culture...so much history & foundation in symbols and underlying assumptions about "grades"
#sblchat
https://t.co/5Vf8VEfyQI
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Yes, yes, yes. I’ve been trying to get this difference become part of our usage of terminology for 20 years!!!!…
https://t.co/bWrSRhqjuf
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@KellyNPipes
Welcome Kelly!
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@tcesarski
Yep. They look at their performance on major assignments and use evidence to argue for their grade in a conference
#sblchat
nad3rm
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Nader Mohyuddin, hs geometry and
#apcalc
teacher at arts school in Tennessee proud advocate of SBL
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
Arthur, we've been waiting your timely arrival...
#sblchat
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: When it is summative. Something is summative when I feel Ss have had enough formative work to be confident in their ability.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@kenoc7
I told you Ken, we can be the army that makes it happen
#sblchat
#togetherwemakechange
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@nad3rm
Glad to have you with us Nader!
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@bspruytte
this is good stuff. Others could benefit from your practice/insights.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@1TylerB
Tyler, thrilled for you to join our
#sblchat
Crew tonight!
scotthazeu
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: When Ss feel their work is ready for a more summative assessment after several iterations/feedback loops.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@MandyStalets
Hi Mandy!
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
I still have Ss & Ps who tell me they need the grade to know how they're doing.
#sblchat
dbuckedu
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Feedback conversations between Ts and Ss. Not a transactional, one-way discussion. Score reflects the learning not the product.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
#STOPIT
#sblchat
https://t.co/DxvTraxrdZ
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
I still have Ss & Ps who tell me they need the grade to know how they're doing.
#sblchat
1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1: grades and scoring should be seen as a form of feedback. Learning over time isn't necessarily reflected in a grade
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: Not anymore. In
#APLit
, we're obviously encountering the exam, so it happens there. But not for the purpose of "calculation."
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Our 0s are recorded as 60 and that is if NO evidence of learning yet is present. Hard to do when conferring counts.
#sblchat
KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: I enter a mark for a standard after Ss have demonstrated what they know in each part of it.
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@CoachLesterBHS
interesting! I've never heard of it! have you ever had someone argue for a grade way off from what they deserved?
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Fantastic! All Ts should be doing this.
#sblchat
https://t.co/qgaohNVEV6
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Working on building end of unit summatives that get scored/rescored after Ss practice and receive good, descriptive feedback
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 If a student submits evidence that doesn’t meet the standard, do you still assign a grade to it? Why or why not?
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Fashionably late
@RoweRikW
!
#sblchat
https://t.co/hD18FEnTsn
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
Arthur, we've been waiting your timely arrival...
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
We hold off on all ZEROES until the marking period closes.
#sblchat
https://t.co/6EmqvYCBwm
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Our 0s are recorded as 60 and that is if NO evidence of learning yet is present. Hard to do when conferring counts.
#sblchat
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 I'm big on descriptive feedback. I am to a point where I don't feel traditional grading is where we need to be
#sblchat
GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 would love to only give grade at the end of the term to demonstrate final learning. HS eligibility forces me to do so every week
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@mrstokes24
@kenmattingly
@MeganCMoMo
Agreed. The words we use are a critical part of/determinant of culture.
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
would you mind sharing this rubric with me? I'm interested to see what it looks like!
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
It's a mindset change for Ps sometimes more than the Ss.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@MrsReadout
Another thing that helps this is asking S to share work with P. Helps P see progress w/o checking scores in gradebook.
#sblchat
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
thanks, Ken! Like I said, it's a work in progress--I'm still refining my SBL practice, so I've got room to grow
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Arthur, you just wanted to make an entrance!
#sblchat
You did!
https://t.co/Cb6Kw09MTh
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Fashionably late
@RoweRikW
!
#sblchat
https://t.co/hD18FEnTsn
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
Arthur, we've been waiting your timely arrival...
#sblchat
seangrealis
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: I'm mostly interested in how other science teachers approach lab reports. Formative or Summative? Graded or feedback only?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
So True!
#sblchat
https://t.co/OMeBKEgVgq
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
It's a mindset change for Ps sometimes more than the Ss.
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2- No way. They aren't ready yet. They don't get a grade. They get a "Let's try this again soon"
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nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
An uphill battle.
#sblchat
KatieHuang2
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
I have been using the word "learner" and today I presented these ideas at our grade level. I think I left them overwhelmed.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2:If it is a summative...yes with the intention they can definitely improve with feedback to get better.Always chances to improve.
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RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 - When Learners submit evidence that does not YET meet the Standard, we record NYP or Not Yet Proficient. Feedback > Grades
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 I would ask the student to complete additional practice with the standard and reassess. Why grade something twice?
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@GradesHarding
Doing it every week is absurd. Who makes such antiquated rules?
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 I assign a performance level to it. Even if poor work, Ss need to know where they are and then work some more to improve
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Worth every step UPHILL...
#sblchat
https://t.co/fQ5oNE70vd
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
An uphill battle.
#sblchat
MsSaretsky
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1) once the student has received feedback and ops for revision . If Ts and S feel it is S best work. S need to move forward 2 grow
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Self-assessment is vital FOR Learning....
#sblchat
https://t.co/GIddLgHkqL
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
@RoweRikW
@MeganCMoMo
i ask Ss to tell me how they are doing based on feedback
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@GradesHarding
Boo. We are basing our eligibility on behavior (habits of success) this year.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: I debate this, but yes. I need communication. Eventually when I am not alone on my island, I will not post until Ss reach 3.
#sblchat
1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1 However, it's important to ensure that your Ss Ps and Ts know that this is a marathon and not a sprint 2/3
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: We track the progress of each attempt on a spreadsheet. The final grade happens at the summative at end of semester.
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@kenoc7
With your guidance,
#sblchat
educators are bringing your message to fruition. Thanks, Ken!
https://t.co/jBMRiPJCOo
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Yes, yes, yes. I’ve been trying to get this difference become part of our usage of terminology for 20 years!!!!…
https://t.co/bWrSRhqjuf
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 - We see no reason to assign a grade when Learners are still practicing, gaining confidence and working through challenges.
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: No, when it gets a number, learning tends to stop. A number/grade implies the feedback cycle is over.
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@bspruytte
I've been doing SBL for 10 years and am still refining. There is always room to improve!
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 No. But I do give lots and lots of feedback and encouragement
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
@RoweRikW
I continue to respond with "they have areas to work on"
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Clever and worth trying...
#sblchat
https://t.co/S3PvBMsjZo
mrs_buttler
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@tcesarski
@RoweRikW
why I do
#entrancetickets
not
#exittickets
. Gives me a sense of yes I can go on or no I need to stop&reteach
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
we have 3 week progress reports as well as 6 week final reports. Square pegs surviving in round holes.
#SBLCHAT
1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1 We could have a larger conversation about the "grade" based culture that we exist in that's not always linked to learning 3/3
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Too funny...
#sblchat
https://t.co/V5FR6MjMuY
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
we have 3 week progress reports as well as 6 week final reports. Square pegs surviving in round holes.
#SBLCHAT
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
RT Q2 If a student submits evidence that doesn’t meet the standard, do you still assign a grade to it? Why or why not?
#sblchat
arbuckle73
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: Great ? but I think the follow up is if you do, will you allow Ss to resubmit to meet standard?
#sblchat
https://t.co/EYkJqkLJVN
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 If a student submits evidence that doesn’t meet the standard, do you still assign a grade to it? Why or why not?
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Exaclty. This is why feedback is more productive. Learning continues.
#sblchat
https://t.co/WaQOHwTuIu
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: No, when it gets a number, learning tends to stop. A number/grade implies the feedback cycle is over.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@seangrealis
Labs for the science teachers I work with are formative. The Ss learn through the process of the lab with feedback.
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@Aricfoster2
what if there was a grade with opportunity for correction/revision?
#sblchat
dbuckedu
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Challenge at college level is that some Ss have never been asked to produce evidence of learning. They prefer grades over feedback
#sblchat
seangrealis
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: I would give a grade but also provide feedback and a clear path for the student to rework and retry
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: No. I recently wrote about why why
https://t.co/FGBs8mtN60
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I give a score sheet broken down by stnadards so they self identify what needs they have so they start the converstation with me
#sblchat
JJohnsonCCHS
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 No don't give them a mark, students tend to get too caught up with the initial score! Re-assesment!
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@seangrealis
Not a science teacher but cookbook labs= learning/formative. Labs where students apply knowledge= summative.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I'm preparing to push Proficiency Levels to our Learners on a mobile app I'm developing for them...
#sblchat
https://t.co/RoRHZpX1dT
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: We track the progress of each attempt on a spreadsheet. The final grade happens at the summative at end of semester.
#sblchat
KatieHuang2
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1 I have been really thinking about powerschool and formative assessments that I currently give. Really thinking about the "why".
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@BarbMiller12
@RoweRikW
Seems that more frequent progress updates is supportive of the process. Keeps learning on-going.
#sblchat
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 I am a big believer in redos and rewrites after conversations between Ts and Ss happen. This will continue until they master.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
HUGE!
#sblchat
https://t.co/oUpw6YyiNR
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@BarbMiller12
@RoweRikW
Seems that more frequent progress updates is supportive of the process. Keeps learning on-going.
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@1TylerB
isn't that a shame. So many who are so worried about the grade, but could care less about the learning.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@tcesarski
DM me for more explanation.
#sblchat
https://t.co/Lj3yHftWb0
drgbenro
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q2 - No...feedback to support my S in getting to their next step & closer to standard.
#sblchat
nad3rm
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 yes , one that is failing on the 100pt school scale, but can be retaken until proficient (so long as aligned hw is complete)
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@arbuckle73
Then why grade twice? If the evidence isn't showing proficiency, time to practice and reassess. No grade necessary.
#sblchat
drgbenro
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 - No...feedback to support my S in getting to their next step & closer to standard.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A@ Can’t say it any better than this.
#sblchat
https://t.co/xPAMOC2lRr
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 I would ask the student to complete additional practice with the standard and reassess. Why grade something twice?
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
No, thanks to
#sblchat
. I recently wrote about why:
https://t.co/FGBs8mtN60
jaykeuter
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@ericnentrup
@GetAlma
should swing by the
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
You mentioned that before and I made a note to check it out. Haven't had time yet but intrigued.
#sblchat
KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: I give each attempt a mark even if it's NY=Not Yet. And every NY comes with a to-do list.
#sblchat
MrsReadout
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 Don't want to. We have to figure out how to get an NY in our grade book but don't want it to equate to a percentage.
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 Initiate the power of "NOT YET," then work w learner to establish a plan
#sblchat
https://t.co/4wnyHE5GRk
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 If a student submits evidence that doesn’t meet the standard, do you still assign a grade to it? Why or why not?
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@seangrealis
Depends on the standard. If the lab report aligns w/ standard, it could be formative. If not, just practice.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
my scoresheets show no "grade" only 1-5 for each standard. takes the focus away from the "grade"
#sblchat
https://t.co/Hg1t7Jv1WF
JJohnsonCCHS
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 No don't give them a mark, students tend to get too caught up with the initial score! Re-assesment!
#sblchat
KatieHuang2
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q2. That would be a great point to confer with the ss
#sblchat
nad3rm
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 the way I look at it, all assessment is formative until it's summative
#sblchat
NKleinmeyer
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: I assign a grade as communication to Student & parents where we are in the learning. Its not final until learning is finished.
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 no, we have a proficiency scale with descriptors. T&S recognize where S is on scale then work to move up the scaffold.
#sblchat
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 the only reason we give marks eventually is because someone suggested we need a due date
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@seangrealis
Ack, my brain is foggy. Meant summative. Not formative.
#sblchat
1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2) Depends on the culture you're allowed and want to create. My AP students wanted everything scored to the rubric
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 I work to build culture with growth mindset, so when this happens I can say to Ss "not yet". Keep growing/revising
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Let's all do this...
#sblchat
https://t.co/Rb7Hj5zmwK
KatieHuang2
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1 I have been really thinking about powerschool and formative assessments that I currently give. Really thinking about the "why".
#sblchat
MrStefferCVHS
Sep 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 I give Ss a score on the standard as a form of feedback to show where their level of learning is, even if they haven't met it.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@CoachLesterBHS
@RESP3CTtheGAME
Ah, yet. One of my favorite words!
#sblchat
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: No matter what promote the culture of learning and growth. Everything can be formative and a new starting point.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
So grateful to hear this...
#sblchat
https://t.co/SUr5JpAm2i
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 I am a big believer in redos and rewrites after conversations between Ts and Ss happen. This will continue until they master.
#sblchat
GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 I rather only give a grade once all the standards have been met and I want that grade to be "proficient" or "ready to move on"
#sblchat
hilldw61
Sep 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2) Lack of evidence LOE is better than incomplete, deferred testing reduces retakes. No grade if there is not enough evidence
#sblchat
arbuckle73
Sep 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Are grading & feedback separate? Why not do both at the same time??
#sblchat
Feedback should be the focus!!
https://t.co/QuJT1XSWhQ
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@arbuckle73
Then why grade twice? If the evidence isn't showing proficiency, time to practice and reassess. No grade necessary.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2 I stress that I learned over YEARS they can take time to learn it right and show me all year long
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
#sblchat
I'm currently in a traditional grading system. So give grade & then provide support & chance to redo.
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Your NY (Not Yet) and our NYP (Not Yet Proficient) - Love it!
#sblchat
https://t.co/iny60P0ent
KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: I give each attempt a mark even if it's NY=Not Yet. And every NY comes with a to-do list.
#sblchat
MsSaretsky
Sep 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2) no grade, bring in support, dialogue, call parents
#sblchat
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
Good to know! I'm early on my journey--not 100% implemented yet, but I'm taking strides in the right direction
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@GradesHarding
so if Ss meet the standard once you consider them proficient? I revisit stds. Prof/Mastery isn't one and done.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@CoachLesterBHS
@tcesarski
I have a certain standards that are required to pass course, others determine A-D.
#sblchat
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Realistically I can take my drivers licence ten times before passing. Or MCATS, LSATS, the list goes on.
#sblchat
1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Should each standard be independently "graded" or evaluated w the EOC/EOY mastery level in mind?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Profound!
#sblchat
https://t.co/33EJP4nHHF
nad3rm
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 the way I look at it, all assessment is formative until it's summative
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@kenoc7
It's a tough road to get here but worth it. Eligibility & honor roll (although I'd rather get rid of this) based on habits.
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@kenoc7
this is another case of not trusting Ts. It's easier to just look at gradebook than to trust T judgement on effort.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Let's hold off as long as we need to...
#sblchat
https://t.co/X5AVJbha8I
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 the only reason we give marks eventually is because someone suggested we need a due date
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What is an ideal number of grades for a marking period?
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@BarbMiller12
That is overkill, way too often. Do the progress reports have grades? if they do they are not “progress” reports.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@1TylerB
We record levels of proficiency with each standard that us summatively assessed each marking period.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
#COLchat
#SBLchat
https://t.co/MLnWBmC4yn
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: No matter what promote the culture of learning and growth. Everything can be formative and a new starting point.
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@CoachLesterBHS
@MeganCMoMo
how do you decide which standards are necessary to pass the class?
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@Ms_Heilsberg
Yes. Trying to refine my planning & teaching to do better at this!
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3- Grades? The one at the end of the year. Evidence of learning? As many as I can get my hands on.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@CoachLesterBHS
@tcesarski
I did this bc a % of "meets" allowed them to pick the strds & play school.I am T, I know what they need.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 - Rather than focus on a reasonable number of grades, we focus on providing a variety of learning opportunities. Learn > Grade
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Whatever is enough to show mastery of content.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Less is more with the number of grades - I had twelve per semester, one for each standard.
#sblchat
MsSaretsky
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
S believe learning is competitive? Hard work to change this culture
#sblchat
https://t.co/W9285kECY2
dbuckedu
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Challenge at college level is that some Ss have never been asked to produce evidence of learning. They prefer grades over feedback
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
This is pretty much the answer to Q3 too!
@RoweRikW
#sblchat
https://t.co/vQA3KZNtiy
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Let's hold off as long as we need to...
#sblchat
https://t.co/X5AVJbha8I
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 the only reason we give marks eventually is because someone suggested we need a due date
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@KatieHuang2
In PowerSchool no assessment has to have score.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
As many as a Ss might need to show mastery .. depend on the Ss Ts must be flexable
#sblchat
https://t.co/kOvNnZV749
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What is an ideal number of grades for a marking period?
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 - Ideal number of grades depends on amount and grain size of the learning. 3 grades sometimes says volumes more than 20.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@GradesHarding
It could, I had 12 per semester.
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KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 Not sure if this is ideal, but I like it a lot. Have 2-4 projects per quarter. Each of those assesses 1-3 skills.
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RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 - We believe having more opportunities for learning or re-learning is better than having lots of premature grades.
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kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Why am I 6 minutes behind on
#sblchat
?
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
LOUDER please...
#sblchat
https://t.co/ldaMTSt9QS
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Realistically I can take my drivers licence ten times before passing. Or MCATS, LSATS, the list goes on.
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MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3:Rather than a number, what are the essential skills that my learners need-report those. Less is more, no need to overwhelm.
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@tcesarski
@CoachLesterBHS
I look at application, longevity w/in the course, and vertical alignment to other math courses.
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Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Ts make learning competative with themselves only .. then mastery matters
#sblchat
https://t.co/hAjCHBVMGJ
MsSaretsky
Sep 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
S believe learning is competitive? Hard work to change this culture
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https://t.co/W9285kECY2
dbuckedu
Sep 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Challenge at college level is that some Ss have never been asked to produce evidence of learning. They prefer grades over feedback
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@kenoc7
No worries, I am right there with you.
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nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#sblchat
A3: is there really a magic number? It depends on how you set up your assessment & what you choose to record grades for.
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 I'd rather not quantify. Depends on the needs of the learners and the rate at which we work
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kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Agreed
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kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Canadian time?
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TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@KatieHuang2
You can mark it as do not include in grade and it still shows.
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yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 UGH! Each student takes a different route to learn a standard or outcome. There should be no right answer to this.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
RT Q3 What is an ideal number of grades for a marking period?
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@arbuckle73
Feedback is the focus. No need to assign two different grades with one being less than proficient.
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Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Trick question. :) too many variables. Ideally, only one: the summative mark at the end that has to be reported.
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TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@KatieHuang2
I break PowerSchool often because it doesn't like it when I change existing marks. I replace with most recent.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: I dislike this Q, bc it can force curriculum to meet that magic number or Ts think they need to balance strds per term.
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MrStefferCVHS
Sep 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 I only give scores to the standards we explore, each standard gets a score but none are finalize until the end of the year.
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kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 3-5 scores for each standard.
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JJohnsonCCHS
Sep 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 been having conversations lately on how many times students need to validate proficiency on standards?
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RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Let's
#MakeLearningPersonal
and Feedback specific
#sblchat
https://t.co/3dLr02ow1N
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 I'd rather not quantify. Depends on the needs of the learners and the rate at which we work
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KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: I use the standards for each course as the "assignments." My CTE course has 9 PBL-like standards. Bio has 30+.
#sblchat
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Can I just say how much I despise the artificial deadlines that are quarters/trimesters? Wish we had a more natural way to report!
#sblchat
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@Aricfoster2
I had to take a minute and think about what "Grade" means. Formative? Summative? Feedback? Final letter mark?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@1TylerB
Thank you Tyler.
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kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@KellyNPipes
We should avoid “exceeding.”
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
YES!!!! Let the learning timeline be organic! DO NOT force anything!
#sblchat
https://t.co/bDowcO7JeJ
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Can I just say how much I despise the artificial deadlines that are quarters/trimesters? Wish we had a more natural way to report!
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
buts that why it has to be asked. We need to converse about this. It gets us to the point of what is a grade?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Clever Man...
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https://t.co/gH4q4DL4XL
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Trick question. :) too many variables. Ideally, only one: the summative mark at the end that has to be reported.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Shout this louder. I'm right there with you!
#sblchat
https://t.co/i6cyBMXBvR
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Can I just say how much I despise the artificial deadlines that are quarters/trimesters? Wish we had a more natural way to report!
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
They can do it once, but then I wanna see them do it again later to retain mastery
#sblchat
https://t.co/uTGmlp5cbK
JJohnsonCCHS
Sep 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 been having conversations lately on how many times students need to validate proficiency on standards?
#sblchat
mrstokes24
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
#sblchat
standards vs skills!?
nad3rm
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@RoweRikW
A3 ~ as many as the # of standards you teach that period, breaking some big ones up into more if needed
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@MandyStalets
Who are those deadlines really for? Ss, or Ts & Ps? What if we did away with them and gave feedback @ reg intervals?
#sblchat
KatieHuang2
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2: I do realize that there are features in powerschool and am doing that, but now to use standards in powerschool
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hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: This is what I keep thinking
@DrTae
#sblchat
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drgbenro
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 - In my experience, it depends on your content area & grading scales (Avg, Mode, PowerLaw).
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scotthazeu
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I fiddle with PowerSchool weighting so that the entire semester is one marking period. It maximizes the number of grades per period
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
Oh heck if you had only asked that first...Ha!
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kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Yes, that was what I was trying to say but you can also use just a check for completed.
#sblchat
https://t.co/rYfwzv5pXC
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@kenoc7
@KatieHuang2
You can mark it as do not include in grade and it still shows.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
Just looking for people to share what would be a ball park number. no magic number :)
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TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
@Aricfoster2
I'm right there with you. Summative is all that should counts so that's when it should be reported!
#sblchat
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
That is what we do. Ongoing feedback and reporting becomes so much more valuable than that paper. Ss and Ps see that.
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
I have one mark for each standard - for me that is 16 standards per semester.
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GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3 I definitely think less is more. Too many standards/grades just gets lost. A few directed grades/targets means a lot more.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@KatieHuang2
Default in PowerTeacher Pro is most recent so if that is not what comes up someone has changed the default.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@KatieHuang2
Powerschool does allow for SBG you just need to set it up through the school
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1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3) The ideal number of grades?! If anyone tries to justify this over measuring the ideal learning outcomes, I'll be disappointed
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KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Exceeding the requirement of the standard, not my expectations. Students like the simplified language, so I changed it.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
@garnet_hillman
That's about what I have too. We keep attempts formative until semester end.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 Why doesn’t the statement ‘if I don’t grade it, they won’t do it’ reign true?
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BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 don't know about ideal. District requirement is 10 per grading period
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RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Now we're ready for this question!
#sblchat
https://t.co/yndvtWXVS5
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 Why doesn’t the statement ‘if I don’t grade it, they won’t do it’ reign true?
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4- My response to that is always "Then you're doing it wrong". My Ss work so hard and it's never because of a grade.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@Aricfoster2
No tricks! :) Good to converse about how this plays out for everyone.
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kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@MandyStalets
Just treat them as administrative/communication conveniences and carry on as for the whole course/year.
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RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 - Our Learners appreciate and ask for Extra Practice while they know none of it is graded. Practice before Grading.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Kids who are struggling to complete assignments struggle to complete them no matter whether they are graded or not.
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Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: 7 years of evidence to the contrary. Last year I had 102 juniors do 94% of their tasks all year w/o external number motivation
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kirk_humphreys
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Stopped "grading" and collecting all work since fall 2015. # of practice work not completed for a little over a year..0.
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RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Great Leader and Mentor!
#sblchat
https://t.co/rlW5PJVUBv
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4- My response to that is always "Then you're doing it wrong". My Ss work so hard and it's never because of a grade.
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Because grades are a form of extrinsic motivation and research shows Ss do less w/ extrinsic motivators
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nad3rm
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A4 if it's engaging, relevant, and fosters curiosity and creativity they will do it. All about class culture
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TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Ss will practice, ask ?, & get help when they know lrning is the focus. If grade is focus then they WON'T do it unless graded.
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Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
told my Ss i wouldnt grade everything cause they need to LEARN its the expectation they do their work
#sblchat
1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4) It reigns true to those who haven't explained how a student ultimately earns their final grade. 1/2
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MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Because change is hard. We have taught students to play the game of school for so long that some believe this. Sad but true.
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yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
We need to build resiliency in students not that marks are important. If it's important to them, they will do it.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: My Ss do 90% of assigned practice with NO 'points'. That might be higher than a T that does give points. Mine do it to learn
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KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 When the work is important, Ss will do it. Make sure you show why the work is important. The why is key.
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RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 - Our Learners are understanding that the learning is what we're after and the grades will take care of themselves.
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GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 If you make the work meaningful, students will WANT to do it. If they do it just for "points", they get very little out of it.
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kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 - BC that's what we've taught Ss. We don't say it's for practice, assessing learning, or prep for tomorrow. Take easy way out
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RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
#resiliencechat
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https://t.co/PmrAocF5EW
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
We need to build resiliency in students not that marks are important. If it's important to them, they will do it.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@arbuckle73
Yep, which means the first grade is unnecessary.
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MsMontagnon
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
I am so bummed I missed the first part of tonight’s
#sblchat
, but I am here now! Going to try and catch up!
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@KatieHuang2
PowerTeacher Pro can be used completely as standards-based.
#sblchat
drgbenro
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3 - It depends on your content area, grading scales (Avg, Mode, PowerLaw), & standard cluster (not all standards are =).
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4- Continued I collected 782/782 Major assignments from 46 Ss last year. They will work if there's a purpose in the work
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Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
build relationships with Ts and Ss so they will do work for works sake
#sblchat
also do other types of assessment t…
https://t.co/zZ2fChnHYq
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 Why doesn’t the statement ‘if I don’t grade it, they won’t do it’ reign true?
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Because, according to
@dylanwiliam
, we've gotten students "addicted to grades"
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
RT Q4 Why doesn’t the statement ‘if I don’t grade it, they won’t do it’ reign true?
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: If a COL is established and maintained, students will engage for learning sake. They don't need points or prizes.
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 - Ss will do work that has value for them. Show Ss how the work helps them be successful and they will do it.
#sblchat
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Students want to learn in a safe environment. They want to be able to take risks and not be penalized/scrutinized.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Stunning Statement!
#sblchat
https://t.co/8coCKAcTO8
GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 If you make the work meaningful, students will WANT to do it. If they do it just for "points", they get very little out of it.
#sblchat
mrstokes24
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Love the sports analogy of "practice". No practice, you'll look silly in the Big Game (assessment)
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1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4)
https://t.co/468hRKmUvY
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MrStefferCVHS
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 I think this is only true if you set up a classroom culture focused on a grade as opposed to one focused on learning
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JJohnsonCCHS
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: AHHHHHHH! Makes me want to scream!
#sblchat
KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Ss accept the challenge to learn what they don't know. But I'm finding its more difficult in CTE than in biology. Not sure why
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@MsMontagnon
Melanie, welcome! Are you good with where we are now?
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Awesome.
#sblchat
https://t.co/YmSwM9826j
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: 7 years of evidence to the contrary. Last year I had 102 juniors do 94% of their tasks all year w/o external number motivation
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
speaking of A3 need resources on Ts increasing reigor if anyone has anything
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@KellyNPipes
Excels is a better word. Look at Guskey’s work on exceeding.
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@mrstokes24
you could tell them about the book Outliers and doing 10,000 hours of practice at something to be great!
#sblchat
MsMontagnon
Sep 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 b/c Ss have been trained to only see the value in a grade. Learning is only a by-product, at best.
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bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 I've heard my colleague
@aromoslawski
say "culture eats strategy for breakfast". I think it applies here.
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4: when work is meaningful & authentic, Ss will be invested & don't need reward/punishment. Strive to make work matter.
seangrealis
Sep 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: The number of Ss who complete practice onlyl for grade isn't very large. Students will/will not based on class culture
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@MandyStalets
must have safe space in room
#sblchat
MsMontagnon
Sep 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Yes, thank you! I just jumped right in! I will read through the beginning later :-)
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
#STOPIT
#sblchat
Just had to.
https://t.co/t3wO6Y5TiS
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Because, according to
@dylanwiliam
, we've gotten students "addicted to grades"
#sblchat
drgbenro
Sep 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 - It's about meeting the needs of The Whole Child. When Ss are safe, healthy, engaged, supported -> they can focus on academics
#sblchat
KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@kenoc7
I don't use "exceeding" now.
#sblchat
JJohnsonCCHS
Sep 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: They aren't doing it because they don't see any value in it!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@MsMontagnon
We are glad you are here Melanie!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Our Learners told us this TODAY!!
#sblchat
https://t.co/YV37geWSz4
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Students want to learn in a safe environment. They want to be able to take risks and not be penalized/scrutinized.
#sblchat
scotthazeu
Sep 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: Because we haven't shown students (or other stakeholders) a better alternative, nor have we shown Ss they are stakeholders.
#sblchat
MsMontagnon
Sep 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Thank you! Happy to be here
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: I ask 1st week of school "what is purpose of homework" - for 5 years 100% of Ss say - 'to practice/get better. 0% say - points
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I can hear you...
#sblchat
https://t.co/LHMcLxzNtz
JJohnsonCCHS
Sep 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: AHHHHHHH! Makes me want to scream!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@JJohnsonCCHS
Ageed. It is like nails on a chalkboard.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@MrsReadout
And they may never unitl they set up the class culture and try it.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 Ts show they keep learning so Ss see value in constant life long learning
#sblchat
aollenburg
Sep 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: Taking the pressure off promotes questioning & feedback between S & T.
#sblchat
1TylerB
Sep 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Have to run, but I've thoroughly enjoyed the first portion of tonight's
#sblchat
You're all awesome, and we need more leaders like you!
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Ouch!
#sblchat
https://t.co/O2YgZduVEZ
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@JJohnsonCCHS
Ageed. It is like nails on a chalkboard.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
THIS!!
#sblchat
https://t.co/2UA8WD8kDY
aollenburg
Sep 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: Taking the pressure off promotes questioning & feedback between S & T.
#sblchat
mrstokes24
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Culture and mindset are critical.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: I also do not give points/scores on quizzes & guess what non-believers - I have only had 3 blank quizzes in 6 years.
#sblchat
#theytry
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: When the practice is meaningful and relevant they will do it. They realize it is necessary for the learning.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@1TylerB
See you next week Tyler!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
I understand...
#sblchat
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hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
But this is a great question, because the addiction is now the REALITY. It CAN conflict with building a positive cl…
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GradesHarding
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@MrsReadout
@MeganCMoMo
I totally agree with this. Teachers never believe me when I tell them kids do work for no points.
#sblchat
zachherrmann
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
How exciting and meaningful is your course content? Would it motivate you if you weren't incentivized? Put yourself in S's shoes.
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@bspruytte
I'm learning how to make the connection better so Ss can see the whole picture better. Makes a huge difference!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Please heed this wisdom...
#sblchat
https://t.co/hhfg2mB6Gr
mrstokes24
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Culture and mindset are critical.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
I don't think I've gotten a blank quiz since switching to SBL. My Ss want to know where they are. They want feedback.
#sblchat
KatieHuang2
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: Ss and Ts talk about the "why" and even young Ss can see the value.
#sblchat
MsHLye
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4 I like to think my Ss are doing homework because they see the relevance. They like no-stakes work. Stakes are stressful
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
Once I changed my grading practices I had no refusals. It was so wonderful!
#sblchat
#yestheydotry
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
BAM!!
#sblchat
- Love it!
https://t.co/zO32HDpx7f
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: When the practice is meaningful and relevant they will do it. They realize it is necessary for the learning.
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
that is so indicative of your school's culture of learning. So awesome!
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@KellyNPipes
Sorry I misunderstood? What does your school/district use?
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
with all their grades coming from fewer assignments, does that put more pressure on those?
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 Describe the impact grading has on hope.
#sblchat
MsMontagnon
Sep 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 I also feel our society (pressure from higher ed, Ps) compels Ss to only pay attention to a grade rather than feedback/learning
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
almost have no refusals since moving to sbg
#sblchat
https://t.co/Az2APlI9Ko
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@MeganCMoMo
Once I changed my grading practices I had no refusals. It was so wonderful!
#sblchat
#yestheydotry
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Really SO HUGE!!
#sblchat
https://t.co/TGFDjDD33d
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
@MandyStalets
Best moment ever - S asked for MORE practice. They know it's not for a grade, they wanted to learn.
#sbschat
MsHLye
Sep 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@tcesarski
@MeganCMoMo
I also do not put marks on quizzes. Ss like the chance to check. Gives them more confidence.
#sblchat
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
I read this article a week into school. It's been a game changer in my
#aplit
class
https://t.co/7elg4V7ioy
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 - Waiting to grade inspires HOPE! Our Learners strive for the understanding and the 'why' rather than worry about grades.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: Grading is okay if it doesn't punish failure. Once you punish failure, you've killed the growth mindset.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@tcesarski
Only unit tests determine semester grade. I allow infinite reassessments after more review. So the anxiety is lifted.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5Ss who are in a class with a growth mindset where they know failure is not penalized will look at it as an opportunity to improve
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 Grading can have a negative impact on hope when reassessment policies are not in place to support learning.
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: Poor grade = no hope. High grade = perhaps a false sense of hope. Feedback = evidence of hope (and next step).
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5- When Ss can stop worrying about grades, they focus only the learning. Grading just gets in the way.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
SBG gives hope to anyone Percents tell them they suck or are meaningless
#sblchat
https://t.co/JQI4NzxJdA
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 Describe the impact grading has on hope.
#sblchat
MsHLye
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@tcesarski
@MeganCMoMo
also formative tasks are not allowed to "count" under our policies anyway
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: Ss who do fairly well won't continue to learn. Ss who do poorly give up. So grade = stop learning.
#sblchat
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 I guess it depends on what grade I get. If it isn't great, then my hope won't be great either.
#sblchat
seangrealis
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: Grades are a double edged sword. Done correctly they can give hope to struggling Ss. Done incorrectly, they halt effort.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Profound!
#sblchat
https://t.co/zpYwotkui2
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5- When Ss can stop worrying about grades, they focus only the learning. Grading just gets in the way.
#sblchat
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@RoweRikW
And THAT is when you know you are doing things right!
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 If the grade is better or what was expected hope is maintained, if it is lower hope may be extinguished.
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 - Sound grading offers hope. Keep trying & get it, get credit. Trad grading not so much. If at 1st you don't succeed, quit.
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4 It's all about being intentional & transparent with the purpose, then respectful with the learning & assessment
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 Grading & hope can work together if Ss know there are multiple opportunities to show proficiency & that the grade can improve.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 - HOPE is instilled in Learners and their Learning when we work with them through their challenges without grading yet...
#sblchat
aollenburg
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5: There is a reason we use "feed"back.
#sblchat
barrykid1
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5: grading can reward hope when Ss meet success translated from hard work, can also crush it if Ss don't succeed
@garnet_hillman
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@bspruytte
I haven't played with playlists yet. But it is something I'd like to learn more about and possibly use.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Smiling HUGE, Mandy!
#sblchat
https://t.co/WeQ46Ui6dw
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@RoweRikW
And THAT is when you know you are doing things right!
#sblchat
MsMontagnon
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 Only when offering redos/retakes, Ss are reassured that their “grade” is not final, and therefore maintain hope
#sblchat
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5: Grades widen the gap between the struggling and the succeeding. They give hope to the top and take it away from the bottom
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I LOVE THIS!
#sblchat
https://t.co/HwfGMtFtp3
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: Ss who do fairly well won't continue to learn. Ss who do poorly give up. So grade = stop learning.
#sblchat
MsHLye
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 It is easier for a grade to defeat hope than to enhance it
#sblchat
- Ss need opportunity to show learning, not opp to have grade go down
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 - When Learners receive grades while their are practicing and struggling, we believe that chisels away at HOPE!
#sblchat
#STOPIT
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
RT Q5 Describe the impact grading has on hope.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@Aricfoster2
And with the potential false sense of hope can also come a feeling like they are 'done w/ learning.'
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: We never what them to 'hope they know it" so giving them feedback encourages confidence to take the net steps.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
grades are fine if part of the feedback is lets try again
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 Remember Pink’s definition of mastery - seeing yourself getting better, or the prospect of getting better.
#sblchat
GradeSmarter
Sep 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5: Without clear learning targets & feedback we will have lots of students "hoping" for a good grade. - or just giving up.
#sblchat
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5:Grading can have a negative impact on hope when we do it too early/often and we don't allow opportunity for reassessment/growth.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
So true...
#sblchat
https://t.co/Vni8hxNzrM
tcesarski
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5: Grades widen the gap between the struggling and the succeeding. They give hope to the top and take it away from the bottom
#sblchat
hilldw61
Sep 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4) Holds teachers hostage more than any thing, but simply the wrong approach. Emphasizes "doing" instead of learning.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@BarbMiller12
Proficiency levels with standards rather than marks on assignments!
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q5 Grading stunts hope. Feedback and a learning continuum builds hope and builds learners
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
Definitely can happen.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
@kenoc7
i tend to see i dont need to work anymore SBG their is always something to work on or imporve
#sblchat
KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Just me @ my school & maybe @ HSs in my district. Ss & I are paving way. NotYet, Profcnt, Mastery based on reqs of std.
#sblchat
OrlyMondell
Sep 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
I think it depends on the topic, school, student. Each kid is different and school isn't one size fits all
#sblchat
https://t.co/1dJwU9wy9p
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What is an ideal number of grades for a marking period?
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bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5 depends. Punative grading=no hope/playing school. SBL=conversation about grades/mastery=lots of hope
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@Aricfoster2
You are preaching to the choir. I wish I could go back and apologize to my Ss at the beginning of my career.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Ouch!
#sblchat
#Pondering
https://t.co/KZ5ENlBj9h
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@Aricfoster2
And with the potential false sense of hope can also come a feeling like they are 'done w/ learning.'
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Getting Better at Getting Better ...
#sblchat
https://t.co/LW4eSGK4YP
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 Remember Pink’s definition of mastery - seeing yourself getting better, or the prospect of getting better.
#sblchat
MsSaretsky
Sep 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5) hope exists before the grade. I wonder what place hope has in learning.
#sblchat
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
#sblchat
is great tonight, but I'm turning into a pumpkin. Time for me to head to bed. Good night!
aollenburg
Sep 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5: When hope is lost, the "get it done for the bare minimum" can take over.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@Aricfoster2
I've always been unhappy with how I graded but until I found SBL didn't have all the tools to fix it.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Been there, done that...
#sblchat
https://t.co/w6nAQSGhcd
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Absolutely. I am ashamed of what an "A" used to mean in my class. It was not a 100% reflection of learning and only…
https://t.co/qJEiF9A3Ig
KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5: Ss who really embrace sbl are ones who have quietly "failed" in previous courses. They have hope, ask ?s, show learning
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
We use our standards as the assessed categories an S choose how to show their understandings.
#sblchat
https://t.co/k5mWeNMxYM
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Can't answer for Brad but for us Ss keep learning till they get it so fewer assignments don't hurt. We don't have "…
https://t.co/WZAEJLuzdM
RoySovis
Sep 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Right there with you!
@garnet_hillman
@Aricfoster2
#sblchat
aollenburg
Sep 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
I will never go back to "traditional" grading.
#sblchat
https://t.co/tkcwKQiasd
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@Aricfoster2
I've always been unhappy with how I graded but until I found SBL didn't have all the tools to fix it.
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5: "Hope that is seen is not hope" (Romans 8:24)
@RoweRikW
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Do we smell Pumpkin Bread?
#sblchat
https://t.co/Fryhli6ZGq
nataleestotz
Sep 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
#sblchat
is great tonight, but I'm turning into a pumpkin. Time for me to head to bed. Good night!
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@aollenburg
Me either! and it hurts me to see other still using traditional grading.
#sblchat
MsMontagnon
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5 In typical classes, Ss torture themselves w/anxiety and fear to earn a particular grade - hope is only there for those that pass
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5 When grading is punitive or takes place during formative process, it destroys hope. Hope means always having opps to improve
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
THIS RIGHT HERE! I love how my "BAD" Ss succeed and try so hard now
#sblchat
https://t.co/mYEuLqlxdc
KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5: Ss who really embrace sbl are ones who have quietly "failed" in previous courses. They have hope, ask ?s, show learning
#sblchat
Jaibyrd123
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A3: enough to indicate mastery
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@aollenburg
if they tell me I have to, then I'm looking for a job in another school system. That's how much I believe in it
#sblchat
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Heading to bed. This was a great first Twitter chat for me! Thanks all!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6 If there are/will be less grades in the gradebook, how can you help parents understand?
#sblchat
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
My classroom culture is so much more hopeful when grades aren't the focus. We focus on us as learners and our growth.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@bethbasinger
@OrlyMondell
Hopefully it is only at the college level that this horribly wrong practice still occurs.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@CoachLesterBHS
@TTmomTT
@Aricfoster2
As long as we keep moving forward...
#itwillneverbeperfect
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
YES!
#sblchat
https://t.co/k7YJmiZomw
RESP3CTtheGAME
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5 When grading is punitive or takes place during formative process, it destroys hope. Hope means always having opps to improve
#sblchat
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@nataleestotz
it's shifted my lit class to Ss centered. Instead of worrying who didn't read, I get to workshop and facilitate
#sblchat
RoySovis
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A5 if you have established a productive, relational culture of learning grading will not impact hope; feedback becomes key
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 Ps need to know that the T will reach out if there’s a problem. Grades will go in once Ss have had the chance to show mastery.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: When they truly believe you are doing what's best for their child's learning and they trust you, then they will be okay.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 - We aim to convey to the Parents of our Learners that Learning is what we're after, not lots of grades.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@CoachLesterBHS
I'm loving "the value can't be the grade". So true.
#sblchat
mrslocomb
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A3 grades/assessment should be a sample of learning. The more data points, the bigger the sample, the more reliable and valid
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
We MUST bring Hope, Encouragement and Inspiration to our Learners... DAILY!
#sblchat
https://t.co/qREWk0zk6t
MsMontagnon
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5 In typical classes, Ss torture themselves w/anxiety and fear to earn a particular grade - hope is only there for those that pass
#sblchat
MsHLye
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 Descriptive feedback & teaching students to reflect well are key. If Ss can articulate to their Ps how they are doing, no issue
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 We have to communicate to Ps what our "grades" mean, why there may be fewer, and what Ss can do about them.
#sblchat
#communication
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: I have annotated a screenshot of a 'filled' online gradebook. I have invited Ps in for a special P-night. Emails, phone calls.
#sblchat
aollenburg
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Over 20 teachers in my building starting SBL this year. You can say I'm just a bit excited!
#sblchat
https://t.co/KqUuI3icQM
kenmattingly
Sep 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@aollenburg
if they tell me I have to, then I'm looking for a job in another school system. That's how much I believe in it
#sblchat
CoachLesterBHS
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6- Ss need to be our advocates. They can explain how it improves learning.
#sblchat
.
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: Communication, trust, relationship. Responding to concerns/questions. So often the grade book is a surrogate for communication.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: Having Ss track their (form) attempts and progress in a spreadsheet shows Ss & Ps the progress & where they still need to work.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 Learning takes time. I ask Ps & Ss to sit together to look at evidence of learning instead of looking in the gradebook.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Yvette, so glad you shared
#sblchat
with us as your first Twitter chat.
https://t.co/MYvvQwLYoz
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Heading to bed. This was a great first Twitter chat for me! Thanks all!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 - We try to explain to Parents of Learners that we have fewer grades since we're not grading their practice, just learning!
#sblchat
nad3rm
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A6 detailed SBL explainer linked on the syllabus
#sblchat
MsMontagnon
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 Maintaining communication w/Ps, providing clear & meaningful feedback, encouraging conversations w/Ss about their learning
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Students logging feedback (maybe on
@Seesaw
) will keep them informed. Also, parents can email or talk to their learner.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Love this - students own the process!
#sblchat
RoySovis
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
.
@aollenburg
How’s it going so far? Are people meeting regularly to work out kinks/issues?
#sblchat
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6:We do NOT need a grade book to communicate! Let Ps see our feedback and student growth through portfolios, student reflections.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Try by showing them how it truly represents what Ss know and not how they behave
#sblchat
https://t.co/y6HzMcowZG
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6 If there are/will be less grades in the gradebook, how can you help parents understand?
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
It's color coded too. My Ss love reaching the highest level - blue.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
RT Q6 If there are/will be less grades in the gradebook, how can you help parents understand?
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 It is about your whole communication system - grades & report cards are only part of that system - and hopefully a small part.
#sblchat
seangrealis
Sep 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6: Ps value feedback as much (maybe more) than Ss. Open communication, esp. in beginning is essential to keeping parents on board
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6: I have made videos for Ps
https://t.co/gwpbsB4jfk
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
So glad my Soccer game was early tonight! I have missed this!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
#sblchat
- I made
#GoodCallsHome
to 7 Parents of our Learners to recognize their Growth and Passion!
bspruytte
Sep 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 Like Ss, Ps will likely arrive at understanding differently. Clear communication, conferences, repeat as needed
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Ready to continue the conversation? Join our Standards Based Learning and Grading facebook page!
https://t.co/3hMmUJ1o2p
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scotthazeu
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: I have students write email progress reports to their parents (and CC me). It creates great convo btwn Ss, home, and school.
#sblchat
mrstokes24
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6
#sblchat
https://t.co/wftbPBQprB
TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Report cards never made sense as "progress". Once Ps receive it the learning process if over. No more room for learning.
#sblchat
RoySovis
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6 Provide them an annotated grade book that clearly explains what the “final” grade means about child’s performance
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6 Our scales are attached to the gradebook; in depth explanation at p might; Ts answering q's; planning to put a video on website
#sblchat
aollenburg
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@RoySovis
Lots of questions, but so far so good. Biggest hurdle is setting up online gradebook. Many little meetings.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@kenoc7
Agreed. Report cards are one small piece of communication. Phone calls, emails, conversations etc. are much more important.
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: Another area we're addicted to grades. It's been a substitute for the sometimes hard work of human relationship, communication
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thanks so much for all of your insights this evening - we are truly
#bettertogether
!
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
I wanna do this!!!!!
#sblchat
https://t.co/qDqbNruQ1V
scotthazeu
Sep 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: I have students write email progress reports to their parents (and CC me). It creates great convo btwn Ss, home, and school.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
I'm inspired and challenged each week by my co-moderator,
@garnet_hillman
! She really brings the Learning home each week!
#sblchat
RoySovis
Sep 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6 Create a short video of explaining the what, why, and how; including feedback from Parents welcomed
#sblchat
MrStefferCVHS
Sep 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6: Quality vs Quantity. The scores in a SBL classroom mean something and aren't a reflection of
#right
vs.
#wrong
or obedience.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
We are blessed here at
#sblchat
to have
@RoweRikW
help lead us every week. Please send a thank you his way!
yseeleyjones
Sep 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
I couldn't leave! Thanks again everybody!
#sblchat
M_chirinos
Sep 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A6: communicating with parents through variety of ways is key. Meet with parents. Workshops, Parent U, all help
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kenoc7
Sep 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@aollenburg
Which gradebook?
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RESP3CTtheGAME
Sep 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6 Exactly! Many ways to communicate with Ps. Love that
#googleclassroom
added a share with parent option
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https://t.co/9RVlfdnCPh
MandyStalets
Sep 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6:We do NOT need a grade book to communicate! Let Ps see our feedback and student growth through portfolios, student reflections.
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KellyNPipes
Sep 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Friends at
@HighPointU
created the "why" for SBL!
https://t.co/VbK5TsmXTK
It's a game-changer, mindset changer!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
We will welcome
@aricfoster2
and
@MeganCMoMo
as guest moderators next week on
#sblchat
!
RoySovis
Sep 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6 Randomly and purposefully selected, call parents & solicit feedback to inform what other info might be needed for parents
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BarbMiller12
Sep 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@kenoc7
Even in traditional grdng rprt cds should not be main form of P communicstion. Nothing replaces one on one.
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TTmomTT
Sep 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
I'm encourage each week to know there are educators out there trying to change how Ss are assessed. Thx
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&
@RoweRikW
@garnet_hillman
scotthazeu
Sep 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you for moderating
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@garnet_hillman
and
@RoweRikW