#Admin2B Archive
Monday November 6, 2017
8:00 PM EST
acottos
Nov 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
Adam, 5/6 social studies, Brooklyn, Ohio!
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participatechat
Nov 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to
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Introduce yourself & tag a friend!
GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:01 PM EST
Welcome back Amber.
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In reply to @arussell111276
BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:01 PM EST
Ben Wiley, Director of Art and Instructional Tech: LI, NY
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Let's try this again - happy to be here with you all. Geniene here in NKy: EL Coordinator
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Bryan from UCMO. Teaching aspiring principals and superintendents. Best job in the world but I do miss interactions with Ss & Ts.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Miriam, District Ic. Excited to chat about "Leaders Providing Meaningful Feedback"
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Q1 in 1 minute
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MrRussoRH
Nov 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Welcome to
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! Todd from NY, HS assistant principal. Glad everyone is here tonight!🙌🏼
donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Don - MS Principal - Long Island
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secondary_math
Nov 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Stephanie, high school math teacher in the Philadelphia suburbs!
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mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
John Miller, Head of an international American school in Mexico City. It would be great 2C
@D4Griffin3
make an appearance tonight!
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KeriCollison
Nov 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Keri from Grandview C4 MO-looking forward to the conversation 2nite!
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Glad you could join us.
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In reply to @arussell111276
MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Q1:
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Welcome John! Thanks for joining
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tonight.
In reply to @mexusmx, @D4Griffin3
MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Thank you for joining us tonight. So much to learn from you!
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In reply to @BryanMcDonaldPD
BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Glad you are joining us!
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In reply to @KeriCollison
MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
A1: The delivery of feedback is key to ensure that it motivates the teacher into actionable steps for change.
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Welcome back Don
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In reply to @donald_gately
MrRussoRH
Nov 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Welcome John!
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In reply to @mexusmx, @D4Griffin3
mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Happy to be here with all of the great folks of
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In reply to @GenieneD, @D4Griffin3
TheReal_MrEvans
Nov 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Montel Evans, aspiring principal in
@BryanMcDonaldPD
‘s class!
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mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Glad to be here tonight!
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In reply to @MrRussoRH, @D4Griffin3
tyarnold18
Nov 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
Tyler administrator at Pickerington Alternativehigh school in Ohio.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1b: Ensure that how you deliver the feedback actually enhances individual professional growth.
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
Use the # ~ doh
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
A1. Make it timely and constructive. Good friend
@posickj
would send voxer message as soon as he leaves class.
BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1: Model by example- any feedback you give, make sure to follow up with ways to implement/real world strategies
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arussell111276
Nov 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
Q1: I think the best way to know your feedback was meaningful is to see your suggestions in action on a later visit
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mrsyohePOB
Nov 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
Stephanie Yohe 4th grade teacher
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
love those words "actionable steps"
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
A1: The delivery of feedback is key to ensure that it motivates the teacher into actionable steps for change.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
Bienvenido! Thanks for joining us again tonight!
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In reply to @mexusmx, @D4Griffin3
donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
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think Ts are more open to feedback during informal walkthrus than formal oBS
acottos
Nov 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: make sure the feedback is timely and often. 1 observation and feedback isn't enough. Be present and open.
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Teach_Learn88
Nov 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
Hey Everyone!! Joel Brown 8th Grade Math Teacher/Dean of Students in NC
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
Welcome Stephanie
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In reply to @mrsyohePOB
GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Hey Joel - glad to have you here
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We're on question 1
In reply to @Teach_Learn88
KeriCollison
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: I try to give feedback specific to the personal growth goal that the T has selected so that's it is meaningful to them.
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mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: Know your faculty and the triggers that block them from receiving feedback as intended.
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MrRussoRH
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: give them just enough to think about...an actionable step, a specific idea or concept. Time and more feedback to follow too.
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: Specific & conversational. FB should be about conversations that causes reflection not a lecture. What is 1 thing to take away?
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Q1:
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Do you have a way of keeping that in front of you as you enter the class -or is that for planned visits only?
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In reply to @KeriCollison
tyarnold18
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: Needs to be derived from what the teacher wants their focus to be. This way its not a shock & is intentional as u observe.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Hi Ben!!! So glad you joined us tonight! I agree with the follow up idea!
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In reply to @BWileyPOB
MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
1 more minute for Q2
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Ok let's talk more about this: can you share an example?
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In reply to @mexusmx
BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Excited that you are joining us tonight! Look forward to your thoughts.
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In reply to @TheReal_MrEvans
TheReal_MrEvans
Nov 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: allow teachers an opportunity to share their reflections first and then hit them with praise and constructive feedback
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secondary_math
Nov 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Determine the skill and will of the teacher. Feedback can be effective when the teacher can understand and relate to it.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
Q2:
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
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What ques can we ask Ts to help them reflect
secondary_math
Nov 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
A1. Determine the skill and will of the teacher. Feedback can be effective when the teacher can understand and relate to it.
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1: We are modeling. How do we want teachers to give feedback to students?
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2: Clear learning goals in a + learner-centered environment, active engagement strategies r used allowing 4 S Voice & Choice...
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Teach_Learn88
Nov 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1) Make sure any feedback is based off of facts with examples and not personal opinions of what good teaching is
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
Amen to being a conversation vs. a versation! :)
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: Specific & conversational. FB should be about conversations that causes reflection not a lecture. What is 1 thing to take away?
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Q1:
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MrRussoRH
Nov 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
Yes!!! Follow up on what matters! Meaningfulness stems from their interests!
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In reply to @KeriCollison
BrianDunleavy16
Nov 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1 Align your comments and reflection to the goals the Ts make at the beginning of the year. Area of growth focus!
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
I agree. How do we build culture so both can be meaningful and support growth?
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In reply to @donald_gately
acottos
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2: relationships and safety. Does every student feel welcome and appreciated...students need these to grow in their learning.
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2 relationships with kids -- kindness - respect - caring -- patience ... these things....
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: Specific & conversational. FB should be about conversations that causes reflection not a lecture. What is 1 thing to take away?
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Q1:
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
BOOM!!!
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: Specific & conversational. FB should be about conversations that causes reflection not a lecture. What is 1 thing to take away?
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Q1:
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BrianDunleavy16
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
Hey all Brian from Va MS dean!
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
yes~ especially since it's a snapshot and you don't see what led to that point or what's planned to follow
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In reply to @Teach_Learn88
MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
I would think is the idea of Formative vs. Summative.
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
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think Ts are more open to feedback during informal walkthrus than formal oBS
BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2: Empowered students- goal oriented and relevant lessons- warm and caring atmosphere that promotes learning-
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KLoschert
Nov 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Top nations groom great school leaders by giving teachers opportunities 2 lead
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https://t.co/Z3lU8otcIS
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mrsyohePOB
Nov 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: Student engagement and teacher versus student talk
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mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
If a T sees themselves w/ strengths that you don’t see, ask questions rather than challenge their identity as a T.
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In reply to @GenieneD
MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
So glad you joined us. Welcome! :)
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In reply to @Teach_Learn88
secondary_math
Nov 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Love this! Thinking from this perspective often changes my opinions.
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1: We are modeling. How do we want teachers to give feedback to students?
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
a2
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A2: Must see: students engaged and talking- less T talk than S talk, differentiated instruction, Student friendly class, culture of caring.
donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
if we build a growth mindset culture then everyone wants feedback...
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In reply to @BryanMcDonaldPD
KeriCollison
Nov 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: student collaboration, respect, relationships, and active learning!
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MrRussoRH
Nov 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
Hey Brian! Welcome!!!
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In reply to @BrianDunleavy16
mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2: Clear learning objective and visible respect for all learners.
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amgonza
Nov 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
Hello
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Anabel from NC.
DrBody4Life
Nov 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2: Safe and positive learning environment, student engagement, and clear delineation between “I do, you do, we do, I check.”
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
hi there Anabel - great to see you
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In reply to @amgonza
MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
That's one of our questions. Stay tuned!
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In reply to @donald_gately
BrianDunleavy16
Nov 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2 Engagement and different level questioning to engage all learners. Student choice.
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Teach_Learn88
Nov 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2) First and foremost Structures are in place and students understand the expectations.
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
ok. you got me on the "i check" - I like this!!!
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DrBody4Life
Nov 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2: Safe and positive learning environment, student engagement, and clear delineation between “I do, you do, we do, I check.”
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tyarnold18
Nov 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2: fun, ss driven, clear focus, struggling, multuple intelligence, and, project based learning.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
This chat is on fire 🔥tonight! Q3 in 1 minute
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acottos
Nov 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
And feedback should be within a few hours to Days..not weeks or months! Let Ts know where to strengthen. It's for the Ss!
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In reply to @BryanMcDonaldPD
amgonza
Nov 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
Great point! Our feedback to teachers will trickle down to students.
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1: We are modeling. How do we want teachers to give feedback to students?
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
Q3:
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secondary_math
Nov 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2. Teacher here. Wondering how much say an administrator really has here when they need to closely follow the Danielson rubric.
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3 I don't evaluate in my position, but I've seen admin who have to scribe on laptops, and have used rubrics for walk through.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3: Feedback is not so much abt the form; but rather about the data/evidence presented during the conversation.
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BrianDunleavy16
Nov 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
A3 I️ really enjoy the seating chat tool for novice teachers who are working on classroom management skills. Very easy to quantify
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2: Tone and safety. Obviously look at engagement and learning but students have to feel safe - emotionally & physically.
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mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A3: Simple form with 3 boxes. What I noticed, thoughts I had and what I wonder...
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A3 I have a google form on my phone --- love Voxer to share feedback
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
That rubric lays out some non- negotiables I believe. conferencing can steer off rubric and the discussion would be most valuable
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In reply to @secondary_math
BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A3: I️ typically observe the classroom as a whole before beginning to write anything. Imp artifacts and student work can be missed!
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acottos
Nov 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
A3: as a teacher, I'm interested in seeing the responses! Always great to see how the current leaders are conducting observations!
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
Great look-fors for a positive & a safe learning environment.
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2 relationships with kids -- kindness - respect - caring -- patience ... these things....
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1: Specific & conversational. FB should be about conversations that causes reflection not a lecture. What is 1 thing to take away?
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Q1:
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
Q4 in 2minutes🔥
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BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3b: I️ also always try to speak with Ss and see how their lesson/unit is unfolding. It is important to gauge their involvement
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
I like that you mentioned empowered students.
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BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
A2: Empowered students- goal oriented and relevant lessons- warm and caring atmosphere that promotes learning-
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TheReal_MrEvans
Nov 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
A3: Ideally, I️ would like to observe in a way that I️ feel like a participant and can speak to the experience of the student.
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Teach_Learn88
Nov 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
A3) I usually used paper and pencil before inputing digitally. Gives me time to concentrate on the what is occurring and not typing
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
A3: Try not to write anything when in the classroom unless a specific quote from T or S. Spend my time listening and watching.
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
definitely - if they can't share the lesson's objective - purpose or what they're doing. Then why are they doing it.
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In reply to @BWileyPOB
acottos
Nov 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
How do principals feel about Ts approaching you to discuss observations? Is it a good or bad idea for Ts to do that?
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
Well said! :)
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KeriCollison
Nov 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: student collaboration, respect, relationships, and active learning!
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D4Griffin3
Nov 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A3)
#Glows
and one
#Grow
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
I wish we all had time to video tape, then watch together and discuss - in a climate/culture of trust and mutual respect.
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#ideal
tyarnold18
Nov 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A3: area for strengths, keep pushing it, next steps to grow. Each area has a place to put in data and artifacts.
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TheReal_MrEvans
Nov 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A3: I️ often hear about how being present in the room with your head buried in a comp. leaves Ts feeling anxious.
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DrBody4Life
Nov 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
A3: I record the positives, the pleasantly unexpected, and the things I need clarification on. I never look for “negatives.”
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
Q4:
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MrRussoRH
Nov 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3: we are expected to script and use Danielsons framework. See and hear evidence.
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
not an evaluative admin but if a T approached me asking for feedback prior to - I would see that as growth mindset
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In reply to @acottos
secondary_math
Nov 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
Great point! Conferences can lead to deeper discussions of ideas that aren't necessarily given as feedback initially.
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In reply to @GenieneD
TheReal_MrEvans
Nov 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3: Therefore, I️ want an authentic experience becoming a participant. Ease the teacher a bit!
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
Yes - agree - even rockstar teachers want feedback that can help them "stretch"...
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In reply to @D4Griffin3
MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A4: Asking the right questions for reflection, providing data that is specific & adequate in sampling.
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D4Griffin3
Nov 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A3) We also record ourselves teaching and provide feedback to each other in small groups.
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
A4 let Ts reflect -- "talk about....."
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PrincipalNyberg
Nov 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
a4. I think you need to push them out of their comfort zones a bit. Put sand in their sandals.
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
Plus the formal observation results should not come as a surprise. Not if you've been in their room throughout
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In reply to @secondary_math
BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
After the lesson fine. During the walkthrough not so good. I never wanted to be a bigger distraction.
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In reply to @acottos
mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4: always powerful when Ts know you are aligned and are working toward reaching same goals.
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acottos
Nov 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A4: have Ts do a pre-observation self-assessment. See where they think their strengths and weaknesses are. Build goals from these.
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MrRussoRH
Nov 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
Negatives never help in fostering feedback...only defensiveness.
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In reply to @DrBody4Life
BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4: Provide opportunities for Ts to take part in PD/lead a PD session of their own on what they are great at to build confidence
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PegGrafwallner
Nov 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4 As Instruc Coach/Rdg Spec, I am not in an admin position; but am seen leader. When collaborating, I look for what Ts DON'T say
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jodiepierpoint
Nov 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
Agh! Last ?, but here!! Jodie, from Ohio. Had to take care of my momma tonight! 😉
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BrianDunleavy16
Nov 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4 I️ like the coaching form of questions you can guide a response and reflection towards what growth areas exist
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
can you give an example?
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In reply to @PegGrafwallner
BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
I think culture is huge. If it is positive conversations can take place. If perception is gotcha then walkthroughs are ineffective.
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In reply to @GenieneD
tyarnold18
Nov 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A4:based on the preconf Im looking for specific ideas but good teaching is good teaching. My push it area is where I focus 4 growth
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secondary_math
Nov 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
Agreed. An admin should have a clear vision and supportive presence so teachers know expectations for success.
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In reply to @GenieneD
acottos
Nov 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
That's what I'm asking about. I agree that observations shouldn't be distractions.
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In reply to @BryanMcDonaldPD
DrBody4Life
Nov 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A4: I NEVER use the, “How do you think it went?” question when debriefing with a teacher. I dislike that. Feels like a trap.
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D4Griffin3
Nov 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A4) Ask what areas do you want to continue to develop in. In short,
#WhatAreYourGoals
🤔🤔🤔 and
#HowCanIHelpYouAchieveThem
😁😁😁
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Teach_Learn88
Nov 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A4) Increasing informal observations. Teachers will be able to see that you actually care about them than just meeting a deadline.
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
yes --- use "Notes" then e-mail to the teacher ... works nicely -- tone of voice is key
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In reply to @D4Griffin3
jodiepierpoint
Nov 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
A4. Reflection is key to growth. I️ journal daily. I️ ask questions & ask for feedback. We grow by asking!
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mrsyohePOB
Nov 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
Ts can reflect and identify growth areas by recording themselves teach a lesson
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
Sorry, late. Harvey in Cheney, WA. I think pre-obs. conferences r really important. Find out what the teacher want u to observe.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Q1:
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andreakornowski
Nov 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
A4: Begin with conversations around the data & seek to be solution oriented. Create opportunities for a problem solving summit.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:28 PM EST
Last question.
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BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
A4: Show struggling teachers that learning is tough, even as a teacher... but totally worth it in the end!
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andreakornowski
Nov 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
How long are your entries? What are your strategies for finding the time?
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In reply to @jodiepierpoint
PegGrafwallner
Nov 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
A4 When collaborating, & I'm coming up w/ all the ideas/suggestions or Ts allow me to do exactly what I want for their class
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In reply to @GenieneD
MrRussoRH
Nov 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
Good point! I type for a few minutes...watch for a few. Capture a few more...rest. Get up and walk around...
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secondary_math
Nov 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
I agree! Many teachers are self aware of skills that need growth, even if they need motivation & support to actually make a change
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In reply to @acottos
mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Interesting. What if the relationship is +? How do you determine if your perception is the same as the T or does that not matter?
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In reply to @DrBody4Life
BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4: it has to begin with quest that causes reflec. Ideally aligned to Ts growth plan. Often times quest will cause Ts to I.D goals.
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MiriamCheuk
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Nov 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
Q4:
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jodiepierpoint
Nov 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Just was voxing w my mentor
@Jennifer_Hogan
about ?s I have. I️ want to learn to be better!
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TheReal_MrEvans
Nov 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4: love this question. As a leader you want to inspire Ts to see their areas of improvement by providing them time 4 discovery
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D4Griffin3
Nov 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4) Make sure that the feedback you are providing is aligned w/ what the receiver is hearing and expecting.
#Praise
#Coaching
#Eval
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BrianDunleavy16
Nov 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A5 Build a positive relationship as foundation. Then preconference goals for the year and have walk thrus often w/feedback on goals
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A5. Keep every sentence student centered. Period!
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jodiepierpoint
Nov 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Just a few sentences sometimes! I️ do it every night! May be about work or other things!
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tyarnold18
Nov 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A5:ur a good teacher but I see greatness in u. Lets talk about areas u think ur game can grow because I know u have great ideas.
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andreakornowski
Nov 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A1: It's specific, might identify with teacher goals. Includes follow up conversation.
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acottos
Nov 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
A5: create a time to reflect. Give time to evaluate themselves and discuss after a time to review the lesson. Create growth goals.
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MiriamCheuk
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
Thank u for joining
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tonight. See u next Monday at 8 pm EST. Tonight's chat was on fire!!!!! If u have a topic u want, reach out :)
GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Fastest 30 mins ever. Thank you all for your contribution. Love this PLN!
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See you next week.
BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A5: Find something they are really good at and expose it! Have them lead a faculty workshop or PD to develop trust and confidence!
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andreakornowski
Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Thanks! I need to start doing that!
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In reply to @jodiepierpoint
brock_theresa
Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Building leaders within!
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In reply to @BWileyPOB
HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A1Before conducting obs. focus on wh th T asked 4 feedback on. This show respect 4 T, doesn't mean u can't obs. other T&S behaviors
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D4Griffin3
Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
Being visible in classrooms helps to remove the stigma of
#Gotcha
when performing walkthroughs.
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GenieneD
- Moderator
Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
I'll post the storify tomorrow morning - night all!
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mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
A5: find out if there’s someone else on staff they can hear feedback from w/o getting defensive.
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andreakornowski
Nov 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
A5: Provide structures for reflection for that staff member.
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jodiepierpoint
Nov 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
5. If not student centered then it’s a losing battle! 😞. Sad situation.
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secondary_math
Nov 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
A4. Ask a teacher 4 their students' favorite lessons or when their students struggle most. Teachers must find ways to become aware.
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Post-obs. conferences r also critical, ask T what he/she thought of the lesson. A key is discussing decision-making. Be positive.
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TheReal_MrEvans
Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A5: allow more authentic conversations to happen. Help them see through action you are on their side.
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Teach_Learn88
Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
A5)Try to build a relationship, present data and evidence, leave all opinions out of convo. Data has no opinions!
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BrianDunleavy16
Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Thanks all for the chat! Have a great week!
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
I think if Ts have to approach me for feedback I am not supporting growth. I’m compliant. Conversations after ALL obs.
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In reply to @acottos
D4Griffin3
Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
I want to be visible in classrooms as it builds credibility with the educators when we begin having feedback
#GoesBothWays
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donald_gately
Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Great chat tonite everybody!! thanks!!
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BrianDunleavy16
Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
Thanks all for the chat! Have a great week!
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BWileyPOB
Nov 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
🤗
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mrsyohePOB
Nov 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
A5: Find teacher’s strength to empower them
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
A2. Non-negotiables: bullying of students. embarrassing S. Failing to have high expectations for all students.
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mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
Always a pleasure to have your perspective!
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D4Griffin3
Nov 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
This was my first time here and I enjoyed my visit. Thank you for the invite
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BryanMcDonaldPD
Nov 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
I always tried to do it within 24 hours 48 at the latest. If longer how do we have a conversation around the visit?
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
A3. I scripted-taped, based on wh T asked me to look 4. Also wrote three key points to obs: 1. objective, 2. T strategies, & S work.
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mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
Got it. Love the idea of giving T opportunity to contextualize the observation.
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DrBody4Life
Nov 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
Pt. 3: “How do you think it went?” at the start of our debriefing...just feels like a set up. I never liked it, so I don’t do it to others.
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
A3 On the 3 key points I looked for: 1. objective 2. How did the T carry out the obj. 3. What S work indicated the obj. was met.
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
A2. I did get a little subjective. Observed: r teachers enhancing enthusiasm? Is there a love of students?Can the T "read" students?
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
A3 While script taping it is critical to walk around the room, checkout student work. Be positive.
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
A tip.1 reason it is important to have non-eval walk thrus is so when observations occur, P's not a stranger, so obs. r authentic.
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_libra_247
Nov 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
Perfect Libra Get it =>
https://t.co/QefWpgFb0L
#libracup
#ExplainFootballPoorly
#librasweatshirt
#librahoodie
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
A4. Great Q Post-obs should occur 1 to 2 days after obs. Ask T what they thought of lesson. concentrate on agreed areas in advance.
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
A4. Critical to ask about decision-making. What worked? What would u do differently? Recommend resources, books, articles, other T
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mexusmx
Nov 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
I agree 100%. If you don’t think you have room for improvement, you have no business in education!
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
A4 Re: growth areas. For an honest conference, trust, respect, listening, & a desire 4 feedback r necessary. What is the culture?.
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virgilalligator
Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
A5 Find the common ground, i.e., heart--what do we both want (student achievement) & what are we seeing vs not seeing to achieve it
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HarveyAlvy1
Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
Q5. Culture is critical. Does th T feel th P can be trusted? Need to remind T that we have mutual goals: S success and your success.
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PegGrafwallner
Nov 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
A5 T success = P success. As SPED P, I often wanted T to listen to my perspective & give me face time. I wanted to be a partner
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